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Rollerrat	Posted - 2008.05.13 11:03:00 - [1] What would be best for drone region ratting? Minnie BS@5, Gallente BS@4, can fly minnie, gallente and caldari CS's. T2 Heavy's 15 days off, so concider them included. Thinking torp+AC phoon with AB or MWD for ripping em to shreds. Dunno how much tank I need though. And do I wanna loot with the mission ship or come back with a looter \ salvager? Concidering to train for a Vargur, with a MWD fitted to get in to AC optimal would this be a good investment?
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.05.13 12:02:00 - [2] Ishtar would be awesome I think, if you have the skills, a phoon would be nice too.
Morthis Rygal Gallente Zero Potential	Posted - 2008.05.13 12:16:00 - [3] Staying with matari, prob torp/ac phoon as you said. Use a MWD, you can warp in as far as ~50km away from rats, and without range bonus on the phoon, your torpedoes will hit maybe 18km with 4 in bombardment/projection, the MWD will save some serious travel time. You'll want to loot with your combat ship, because if you come back with a looter new rats might have spawned, and unless you plan on doing very short sessions, you risk losing all your loot (which in case of drones is basically all your money) due to external circumstances (something coming up, hostiles in system, etc). With that in mind, dropping an ac for a tractor would probably work best (and another one for a salvager, if you want it, although drones aren't the greatest salvage). As for tank, you only need a light tank, your gank is your tank. One LAR you just occasionally turn on to repair armor back up. I'd use at least 2 lows for gank, but 3 would probably work fine too.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.05.13 13:50:00 - [4] Since you're going for plush anyways... Raven Drone Issue 6x Arbalest Siege Torp Launchers Tractor Beam Salvager/Cloak 100MN Microwarp Drive 2x Invulnerability Fields (or 1 EM and 1 invul) 3x Large Shield Extenders 4x Ballistic Control System II Damage Control Unit II 5x Hammerhead Drones 5x Hobgoblin Drones (for killing scramming strain drones) Watch your cap on the microwarp drive - a couple good pulses ought to get you into torp range, which coincidentally is tractor range. Tractor beam is non-negotiable with drones. Mjolnir torps melt the BS drones. That is how you build your very own isk printing machine. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Singularity XX Caldari Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 15:41:00 - [5] Edited by: Singularity XX on 13/05/2008 15:42:35 I am aware you can't rat in amarr CS, but here's "it" for completeness :) [Absolution, PvE] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Cap Recharger II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Guns + tank == indefinetely (without nos) / MWD + tank runs for 31m (more then enough time to get to the NPC and get cap back for warp) Implants used: 'Squire' CR4/CC4 3% 'Lancer' G1-beta 3% 'Rogue' GY-1 3% All skills for cap to 5 controlled bursts 5 lvl 5 compensation skills tanks 211 dps over all resistances. 435 dps without drones t1 ammo. --- Originally by: Graalum all the ideas and assumptions made in this post are terrible. Originally by: Yorda Welcome to CAOD?
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.13 16:49:00 - [6] Edited by: Ishina Fel on 13/05/2008 16:49:49 Due to the Drone's significant Explosive/Kin resistance, non-missile Matari ships are not very good against them. In a pinch, the Typhoon would likely be your best choice. However, since you can fly Caldari CS, consider the lowly Drake (provided you have proper HAM skills). The ideal Drone ratting ship would in fact be a megapulse Paladin using Scorch (EM is the Drones' weakest resistance). The Marauders in general shine here due to the fact that all income comes from loot, so the huge cargo bay and tractor beam bonuses really hit off. If you add a second account with a Hauler, a Nightmare could easily do just as good, while looking a bit more spiffy still
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Omarvelous Since you're going for plush anyways... Raven Drone Issue 6x Arbalest Siege Torp Launchers Tractor Beam Salvager/Cloak 100MN Microwarp Drive 2x Invulnerability Fields (or 1 EM and 1 invul) 3x Large Shield Extenders 4x Ballistic Control System II Damage Control Unit II 5x Hammerhead Drones 5x Hobgoblin Drones (for killing scramming strain drones) Watch your cap on the microwarp drive - a couple good pulses ought to get you into torp range, which coincidentally is tractor range. Tractor beam is non-negotiable with drones. Mjolnir torps melt the BS drones. That is how you build your very own isk printing machine. Sometimes I really wonder if people are ********. I said Minnie and Gallente BS at 5 and 4 in skill levels. I didnt say anything about a Raven, and with T2 Heavies, extremely good gunnery skills and good torp skills in what way would the Raven even come close to a phoon? Not even a CNR would be close damage wise. Ravens, gtfo my thread. Read and dont just post silly setups.
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:13:00 - [8] Originally by: Singularity XX Edited by: Singularity XX on 13/05/2008 16:20:34 Edited by: Singularity XX on 13/05/2008 15:42:35 I am aware you can't rat in amarr CS, but here's "it" for completeness :) [Absolution, PvE] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Cap Recharger II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Guns + tank == indefinetely (without nos) / MWD + tank runs for 31m (more then enough time to get to the NPC and get cap back for warp) Implants used: 'Squire' CR4/CC4 3% 'Lancer' G1-beta 3% 'Rogue' GY-1 3% All skills for cap to 5, controlled bursts 5, lvl 4 compensation skills tanks 211 dps over all resistances. 435 dps without drones t1 ammo. I can't fly it so it's not really gonna happen. Personally I was thinking that a BS should excel compared to a CS when Ratting.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Rollerrat What would be best for drone region ratting? Minnie BS@5, Gallente BS@4, can fly minnie, gallente and caldari CS's. T2 Heavy's 15 days off, so concider them included. Thinking torp+AC phoon with AB or MWD for ripping em to shreds. Dunno how much tank I need though. And do I wanna loot with the mission ship or come back with a looter \ salvager? Concidering to train for a Vargur, with a MWD fitted to get in to AC optimal would this be a good investment? Having never ratted in the drone regions I can't tell you what sort of tank numbers you'll need. In Guristas space a triple 1.55m bs spawn was easily tanked with about a 250 DPS sustainable tank.
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:28:00 - [10] [Typhoon, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot II x1 Replace cap modules with BCU's and Cargoexpanders as you see fit. If you don't have the drone skills to carry up the weight, use TP-drones. You will lose shield as you go along, but it'll instantly regenerate as you dock up to dump the alloys. Postcount: 528059
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Ishina Fel Edited by: Ishina Fel on 13/05/2008 16:49:49 Due to the Drone's significant Explosive/Kin resistance, non-missile Matari ships are not very good against them. In a pinch, the Typhoon would likely be your best choice. However, since you can fly Caldari CS, consider the lowly Drake (provided you have proper HAM skills). The ideal Drone ratting ship would in fact be a megapulse Paladin using Scorch (EM is the Drones' weakest resistance). The Marauders in general shine here due to the fact that all income comes from loot, so the huge cargo bay and tractor beam bonuses really hit off. If you add a second account with a Hauler, a Nightmare could easily do just as good, while looking a bit more spiffy still First off: I'd rather cut my balls off then sit around in a Drake. Ship screams of utter disappointment. :P Dont have a secound account, nor du I have a single shred of SP in any Amarr ships. Amarr ships are atleast off limits for now. A secound account I could concider, but I'd rather try my luck with the Vargur and AC's I think. Seeing how this is ratting and not missions I should be able to get in to optimal pretty fast. Rip the rats to shreds from there. Wish I could fly Amarr though, a line of bloody Awsome ships over there, just figured I'd rather get drone skills and such for now before concidering what to get next. In general, it is starting to look like this is between the Typhoon and Vargur. Typhoon meaning more DPS and a not so shining target. Vargur meaning huge cargo hold and quite a bit of train. Oh, and from what people tell me, it's not really that good.
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: Rollerrat What would be best for drone region ratting? Minnie BS@5, Gallente BS@4, can fly minnie, gallente and caldari CS's. T2 Heavy's 15 days off, so concider them included. Thinking torp+AC phoon with AB or MWD for ripping em to shreds. Dunno how much tank I need though. And do I wanna loot with the mission ship or come back with a looter \ salvager? Concidering to train for a Vargur, with a MWD fitted to get in to AC optimal would this be a good investment? Having never ratted in the drone regions I can't tell you what sort of tank numbers you'll need. In Guristas space a triple 1.55m bs spawn was easily tanked with about a 250 DPS sustainable tank. Yeah, you dont need much tank for it. As long as you can kill it fast enough. Dunno if you can even get faction or officer spawns in drone regions, im guessing theyre around in some way or another. But with the exception of spawns like that you dont need much of a tank. Serpentis can for instance be speed tanked (kindof) in an AB drake :P
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:33:00 - [13] Edited by: Ortos on 13/05/2008 19:34:31 Originally by: NoNah [Typhoon, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot II x1 Replace cap modules with BCU's and Cargoexpanders as you see fit. If you don't have the drone skills to carry up the weight, use TP-drones. You will lose shield as you go along, but it'll instantly regenerate as you dock up to dump the alloys. Thanks, I was thinking of something like that. Though the drones should probably be EM ones. How much DPS did that acheive? T2 Heavie's are about 15 days or so off so drone skills are getting decent.
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:35:00 - [14] No. Drones should never be the EM-ones in it's current state. Having the option of pikcing drones is a boon for Caldari - not gallente. We get to choose from kinetic, Explosive and thermal all with unique drawbacks. Amarr drones in its current state is nothing short of a mistake. All comes down to your skill and number of BCU's ofc, but say atleast 750-800. Vargur is an awesome ship, but... this probably isn't the best task for it. Postcount: 346522
Shiken Kan	Posted - 2008.05.13 19:37:00 - [15] Edited by: Shiken Kan on 13/05/2008 19:38:28 If you're into amarr ships try this :p myrmidon 2x heatsink 2 4x pdu 2 3x lse 2 1x invu 2 1x 10mn mwd 2 5x best named heavy pulse lasers (faction mf m) 1x medium nos 3x purger rigs 2x ogre 2 2x hammerhead 2 1x hobgoblin 2 deals around 550 dps of the right damage type with suboptimal skills and is capstable when not mwding, cap should last long enough with everything running tho. I also took t1 lasers cause you can learn those within a day.
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:24:00 - [16] You should pick Thermal drones. Rogue Drone rats may have EM as their weakest resist, but Thermal is the second weakest. And considering that EM drones have the lowest damage output of the four types, and Thermal have the largest... you end up dealing more damage even against slightly higher resists if you use thermal.
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 20:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Shiken Kan Edited by: Shiken Kan on 13/05/2008 19:38:28 If you're into amarr ships try this :p myrmidon 2x heatsink 2 4x pdu 2 3x lse 2 1x invu 2 1x 10mn mwd 2 5x best named heavy pulse lasers (faction mf m) 1x medium nos 3x purger rigs 2x ogre 2 2x hammerhead 2 1x hobgoblin 2 deals around 550 dps of the right damage type with suboptimal skills and is capstable when not mwding, cap should last long enough with everything running tho. I also took t1 lasers cause you can learn those within a day. Not sure if your really trying to **** me off or doing this "just for laughs". ^^ Amarr not happening, mmkay? =)
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:00:00 - [18] Originally by: NoNah Vargur is an awesome ship, but... this probably isn't the best task for it. The way im thinking this might be the only task Vargur is suited for. It cant fit arties so, yeah. This might be the only thing it's capable of doing right.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:14:00 - [19] Why fit arties? You're gonna warp in on belts/stargates with rats below 60km.
Kivin San Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:15:00 - [20] Edited by: Kivin San on 13/05/2008 21:20:41 Hello, With your current skills, the whole line of Minmatar BSes might well be your best shot. Granted, drones don't take a lot of explosive damage, but phased plasma works good. If your drone skills are very high and you can fit a basic armor tank: Torp phoon. If your shield tank is superior to your armor tank: 1200mm howie maelstrom. edit: this makes a few assumptions about your skills: EFT rates it 633 DPS with plasma and it shouldn't have any issues tanking the biggest spawns. [Maelstrom, Drone Ratting] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II 'Copasetic' I Particle Field Acceleration 100MN Afterburner II 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L Hammerhead II x5
Kivin San Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Why fit arties? You're gonna warp in on belts/stargates with rats below 60km. A maelstrom with 1200mm howies and phased plasma ammo hits accurately to 30km and reaches 50% accuracy at 75km.
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:26:00 - [22] I drafted up the following Vargur fit for an alliance mate a couple months back; no idea if he went through with it, but maybe you will find it interesting anyway. copypasta start ------------------------------------------ [Vargur, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Cap Recharger II Shield Boost Amplifier II Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Projectile Ambit Extension I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 ------------------------------------------ 700 dps with Barrage L without drones. 6+52km range; that means you can still hit rats at 25-35km and hardly notice the falloff miss chance. Has a heavy neut and a set of warrior II's to get rid of tacklers and GTFO if you get jumped by one in a belt. Perma-runs while the heavy neut is not active. Tanks around 475 omni dps. With 188m/s, surprisingly fast for a battleship, and has 1150m3 cargo for loot. copypasta end I don't think he was trying to rat specifically Rogue Drones though. Adjust (and maybe pimp with faction gear) as you see fit
Kivin San Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:28:00 - [23] Originally by: Ishina Fel 700 dps with Barrage L I came up with the identical Vargur setup in EFT, except that you need an AB instead of a cap recharger. It's still tank-stable without the recharger as long as you don't abuse the AB. And don't use barrage =X
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Ishina Fel I drafted up the following Vargur fit for an alliance mate a couple months back; no idea if he went through with it, but maybe you will find it interesting anyway. copypasta start ------------------------------------------ [Vargur, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Cap Recharger II Shield Boost Amplifier II Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Projectile Ambit Extension I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 ------------------------------------------ 700 dps with Barrage L without drones. 6+52km range; that means you can still hit rats at 25-35km and hardly notice the falloff miss chance. Has a heavy neut and a set of warrior II's to get rid of tacklers and GTFO if you get jumped by one in a belt. Perma-runs while the heavy neut is not active. Tanks around 475 omni dps. With 188m/s, surprisingly fast for a battleship, and has 1150m3 cargo for loot. copypasta end I don't think he was trying to rat specifically Rogue Drones though. Adjust (and maybe pimp with faction gear) as you see fit Wouldn't this just be webbed to like 0.0001m/s and killed? ;) Postcount: 726534
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.13 21:32:00 - [25] Edited by: Ishina Fel on 13/05/2008 21:32:57 Webbed by what? Rats get killed by drones. And if you get caught by something player-piloted that the heavy neut and the Warrior II's can't get off you, then you're screwed anyway, speed mod or not. Bye-bye expensive ship, maybe watch local next time!
Shiken Kan	Posted - 2008.05.14 00:25:00 - [26] Edited by: Shiken Kan on 14/05/2008 00:28:33 Originally by: Ortos Originally by: Shiken Kan Edited by: Shiken Kan on 13/05/2008 19:38:28 If you're into amarr ships try this :p myrmidon 2x heatsink 2 4x pdu 2 3x lse 2 1x invu 2 1x 10mn mwd 2 5x best named heavy pulse lasers (faction mf m) 1x medium nos 3x purger rigs 2x ogre 2 2x hammerhead 2 1x hobgoblin 2 deals around 550 dps of the right damage type with suboptimal skills and is capstable when not mwding, cap should last long enough with everything running tho. I also took t1 lasers cause you can learn those within a day. Not sure if your really trying to **** me off or doing this "just for laughs". ^^ Amarr not happening, mmkay? =) err the myrmidon is a gallente bc which you should be able to pilot at 5, the only skill needed you don't have atm would be for the lasers and since those are t1 they take you maybe a day to train. This ship can tank the spawns long enough and deals more damage after drone resists then the vargur also it costs maybe 100m + drones and thus is perfect for being ganked from time to time. Having a mwd is also quite handy in 0.0 btw.
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 01:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Why fit arties? You're gonna warp in on belts/stargates with rats below 60km. I'm saying Vargur is probably only good for drone ratting because it cannot fit Arties and be good at missions. And at normal ratting you can just use a non Marauder ship. Ratting drones it has it's utility slots, and Autocannons work fine since as your saying, rats are gonna be close. If it's not good for drone ratting, that just means it's not good for anything. ;p
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 01:55:00 - [28] Originally by: Shiken Kan Edited by: Shiken Kan on 14/05/2008 00:28:33 Originally by: Ortos Originally by: Shiken Kan Edited by: Shiken Kan on 13/05/2008 19:38:28 If you're into amarr ships try this :p myrmidon 2x heatsink 2 4x pdu 2 3x lse 2 1x invu 2 1x 10mn mwd 2 5x best named heavy pulse lasers (faction mf m) 1x medium nos 3x purger rigs 2x ogre 2 2x hammerhead 2 1x hobgoblin 2 deals around 550 dps of the right damage type with suboptimal skills and is capstable when not mwding, cap should last long enough with everything running tho. I also took t1 lasers cause you can learn those within a day. Not sure if your really trying to **** me off or doing this "just for laughs". ^^ Amarr not happening, mmkay? =) err the myrmidon is a gallente bc which you should be able to pilot at 5, the only skill needed you don't have atm would be for the lasers and since those are t1 they take you maybe a day to train. This ship can tank the spawns long enough and deals more damage after drone resists then the vargur also it costs maybe 100m + drones and thus is perfect for being ganked from time to time. Having a mwd is also quite handy in 0.0 btw. Must admit I didn't bother reading past the word Amarr the first time. :p It was like: "If your in to Amarr", no im not.
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.14 02:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Kivin San Edited by: Kivin San on 13/05/2008 21:20:41 Hello, With your current skills, the whole line of Minmatar BSes might well be your best shot. Granted, drones don't take a lot of explosive damage, but phased plasma works good. If your drone skills are very high and you can fit a basic armor tank: Torp phoon. If your shield tank is superior to your armor tank: 1200mm howie maelstrom. edit: this makes a few assumptions about your skills: EFT rates it 633 DPS with plasma and it shouldn't have any issues tanking the biggest spawns. [Maelstrom, Drone Ratting] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II 'Copasetic' I Particle Field Acceleration 100MN Afterburner II 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma L Hammerhead II x5 Allready concidered this one, and it's a viable choice for sure. But I dont really see it comparing to a Torp Phoon with 4 utility slots for tractors and salvagers. T2 Ogre's + Torps and 2-3 BCU's lands me between 7 and 800 DPS. Even leaves me with the possibility of fitting 1 or 2 Heavy Neuts.
Tammarr	Posted - 2008.05.14 03:31:00 - [30] Absolution set for gankage do own dronerats very very good actually, paperdps isnt always=effective dps cough. I prefer having a second account in a hurricane with AB, 2xLSEII, invul and salvages/tractors/cargoexpnders following me around for the looting, speeds the process up enormously; and the profit. As for torps they do not hit drone bs for full damage, need a tp. And oh, raven do rock dronerats since all but two of the bs types likes to be within torprange(rigged for extra comfort) Now go kill some dronies ;)

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