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Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:28:00 - [31] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Amastat Originally by: ReaperOfSly I got hit on by a *** guy in a pub once. Why can I never be hit on by beautiful women? Bleh. It's a insult in a way if you think about it because: some of them probably like guys with smaller d*cks because it hurts less Pray that I never meet you in space I apologize for bringing that to your attention I'm not making any insult towards you - it's just that's something that does make it insulting if it does happen. You can at least be thankful you have some eying you and wondering instead of having one lunge and grab something instead. CUPS FTW ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:28:00 - [32] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 14/05/2008 18:29:48 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I got hit on by a * guy in a pub once. Why can I never be hit on by beautiful women? It took a couple friends of mine months to convince me to go to a * bar. Their claim was that there were women there that love to hit on the guys. All I gotta say is bull**. That night I couldn't even so much as get a lady to even say hi to me but I did end up with several phone numbers from * men as well as being hit on every time I had to use the restroom. I was polite that night but I never went back. If my friends wanna club it's gonna be at a pool hall where I can bend over without fear of gropage. ____________________________________________ And yes I'll be gone soon.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:32:00 - [33] Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:33:50 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 14/05/2008 18:29:48 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I got hit on by a * guy in a pub once. Why can I never be hit on by beautiful women? It took a couple friends of mine months to convince me to go to a * bar. Their claim was that there were women there that love to hit on the guys. All I gotta say is bull**. That night I couldn't even so much as get a lady to even say hi to me but I did end up with several phone numbers from * men as well as being hit on every time I had to use the restroom. I was polite that night but I never went back. If my friends wanna club it's gonna be at a pool hall where I can bend over without fear of gropage. If I had friends trying to convince me to do that I'd tell them they are out of their minds, but nice try. I can't tolerate like 1 *-guy trying to come on to me, and I'll respectfully tell them to back off - but chances are if I was in that situation, there would be flying * men going across the bar table and their butts would be whistling as they are in airborne. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Xrak Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:36:00 - [34] ITT internet people making up stories about how they are irresistible to *** men.
Shirley Serious Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:37:00 - [35] I've heard that for the religions that disapprove of homosexuality, it's all about security of the state/religion. By prohibiting homosexuality, bestiality and other such things, the religion makes it so that the only allowed sexual pleasure is hetero, which tends to produce children. These children will be expected to take care of their parents, so others don't have to, and ensure a continuation of that society (and therefore religion) In addition, if the religion allows polygyny (multiple wives), while prohibiting adultery, it creates a surplus of young wifeless men. These will be soldiers, and when they defeat a neighbouring society, they are allowed to take wives from the women and girls of the defeated. This promotes conquest and warfare, which spreads the society (and therefore religion). Morality doesn't really come into it. Homosexuality, bestiality, adultery etc. are all prohibited for military/economic reasons.
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:38:00 - [36] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I got hit on by a *** guy in a pub once. Why can I never be hit on by beautiful women? I had that happen once. this was in a park tho
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:41:00 - [37] Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:46:11 Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:42:48 Originally by: Shirley Serious I've heard that for the religions that disapprove of homosexuality, it's all about security of the state/religion. By prohibiting homosexuality, bestiality and other such things, the religion makes it so that the only allowed sexual pleasure is hetero, which tends to produce children. These children will be expected to take care of their parents, so others don't have to, and ensure a continuation of that society (and therefore religion) In addition, if the religion allows polygyny (multiple wives), while prohibiting adultery, it creates a surplus of young wifeless men. These will be soldiers, and when they defeat a neighbouring society, they are allowed to take wives from the women and girls of the defeated. This promotes conquest and warfare, which spreads the society (and therefore religion). Morality doesn't really come into it. Homosexuality, bestiality, adultery etc. are all prohibited for military/economic reasons. So your saying adultery and bestiality isn't immoral? snort-snicker A) The world is overpopulated - it's really bad for us to keep having children right now. B) I am failing miserably to see how something like sheep shagging hurts militarizes and economies. C) Religion does not deter wars, their system of marriage does not deter wars. In fact, throughout history they have CAUSED wars. I fail to see how the system of marriage that prevents something like polygamy stop wars from happening. This at best is a theory, and would of only had a role back in archaic history when human civilization was more tribal. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:45:00 - [38] Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:33:50 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 14/05/2008 18:29:48 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I got hit on by a * guy in a pub once. Why can I never be hit on by beautiful women? It took a couple friends of mine months to convince me to go to a * bar. Their claim was that there were women there that love to hit on the guys. All I gotta say is bull**. That night I couldn't even so much as get a lady to even say hi to me but I did end up with several phone numbers from * men as well as being hit on every time I had to use the restroom. I was polite that night but I never went back. If my friends wanna club it's gonna be at a pool hall where I can bend over without fear of gropage. If I had friends trying to convince me to do that I'd tell them they are out of their minds, but nice try. I can't tolerate like 1 *-guy trying to come on to me, and I'll respectfully tell them to back off - but chances are if I was in that situation, there would be flying * men going across the bar table and their butts would be whistling as they are in airborne. They dont bother me as long as they keep their hands to themselves. If they can't comply I will break it. Originally by: Xrak ITT internet people making up stories about how they are irresistible to *** men. Insecure much? Not all computer geeks are 300lbs, pimply, and smelly. In my case I think the cowboy hat and tight jeans caused a lot of problems for me. ____________________________________________ And yes I'll be gone soon.
Natsume Chidori	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:42:48 Originally by: Shirley Serious I've heard that for the religions that disapprove of homosexuality, it's all about security of the state/religion. By prohibiting homosexuality, bestiality and other such things, the religion makes it so that the only allowed sexual pleasure is hetero, which tends to produce children. These children will be expected to take care of their parents, so others don't have to, and ensure a continuation of that society (and therefore religion) In addition, if the religion allows polygyny (multiple wives), while prohibiting adultery, it creates a surplus of young wifeless men. These will be soldiers, and when they defeat a neighbouring society, they are allowed to take wives from the women and girls of the defeated. This promotes conquest and warfare, which spreads the society (and therefore religion). Morality doesn't really come into it. Homosexuality, bestiality, adultery etc. are all prohibited for military/economic reasons. So your saying adultery and bestiality isn't immoral? snort-snicker A) The world is overpopulated - it's really bad for us to keep having children right now. B) I am failing miserably to see how something like sheep shagging hurts militarizes and economies. He didn't suggest either of those at all actually...
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:47:00 - [40] Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:48:24 Originally by: Natsume Chidori Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 18:42:48 Originally by: Shirley Serious I've heard that for the religions that disapprove of homosexuality, it's all about security of the state/religion. By prohibiting homosexuality, bestiality and other such things, the religion makes it so that the only allowed sexual pleasure is hetero, which tends to produce children. These children will be expected to take care of their parents, so others don't have to, and ensure a continuation of that society (and therefore religion) In addition, if the religion allows polygyny (multiple wives), while prohibiting adultery, it creates a surplus of young wifeless men. These will be soldiers, and when they defeat a neighbouring society, they are allowed to take wives from the women and girls of the defeated. This promotes conquest and warfare, which spreads the society (and therefore religion). Morality doesn't really come into it. Homosexuality, bestiality, adultery etc. are all prohibited for military/economic reasons. So your saying adultery and bestiality isn't immoral? snort-snicker A) The world is overpopulated - it's really bad for us to keep having children right now. B) I am failing miserably to see how something like sheep shagging hurts militarizes and economies. He didn't suggest either of those at all actually... He didn't directly say that but he he was basically saying that these practices are rejected by societies because of economics and military, not for moral reasons - which makes it a question of politics, not morals - which is far from the truth as I explained. One of the greatest laws of society is that Insanity cannot be easily explained or justified. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Natsume Chidori	Posted - 2008.05.14 18:53:00 - [41] Originally by: Amastat He didn't directly say that but he he was basically saying that these practices are rejected by societies because of economics and military, not for moral reasons - which makes it a question of politics, not morals - which is far from the truth as I explained. Is it? Explain, in terms of how the individuals in question and/or society is negatively affected, why homosexuality and bestiality are bad.
Shirley Serious Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:06:00 - [42] Originally by: Amastat So your saying adultery and bestiality isn't immoral? A) The world is overpopulated - it's really bad for us to keep having children right now. B) I am failing miserably to see how something like sheep shagging hurts militarizes and economies. C) Religion does not deter wars, their system of marriage does not deter wars. In fact, throughout history they have CAUSED wars. I fail to see how the system of marriage that prevents something like polygamy stop wars from happening. This at best is a theory, and would of only had a role back in archaic history when human civilization was more tribal. Point A. So? that's what it is like now, not what it was say 3000 years ago. The religious viewpoint has not shifted. Point B. It removes a reason to fight, to expand territory. Point C. Quite. The religious restrictions on sexual activities promote wars, as a means to expand the territory that society and associated religion controls. Or, how about this to illustrate my point? Man: I want sex, where can I get it? Religion: Only with women that you are married to. Or you will die a most horrible death. Man: There are no single women here. Religion: Go and take some from those people over there who don't follow our religion. Man: OK. Just like eating pork is immoral. Why? Because of such things as trichinosis, which makes eating unrefrigerated pork products risky, not because of any real moral dimension. Things that religions approve of, or prohibit, were all intended to ensure the survival of that society.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:10:00 - [43] Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? ____________________________________________ And yes I'll be gone soon.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:11:00 - [44] Originally by: Natsume Chidori Originally by: Amastat He didn't directly say that but he he was basically saying that these practices are rejected by societies because of economics and military, not for moral reasons - which makes it a question of politics, not morals - which is far from the truth as I explained. Is it? Explain, in terms of how the individuals in question and/or society is negatively affected, why homosexuality and bestiality are bad. I think your completely misreading everything that is being said because that's what Shirley Serious was saying - I was saying that's not true. You should probably ask him to: "Explain, in terms of how the individuals in question and/or society is negatively affected, why homosexuality and bestiality are bad." I'm saying it doesn't, it doesn't have a huge impact on society's is my point, so claiming this to be a political issue fueled by war/economic concerns is FALSE and absolute crap. It's a moral and fear issue, It always has been thats why theres all the hype about it. Shirley seems to think otherwise and has a *****pot theory however. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:11:00 - [45] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? I KNOW Wtf? ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Shirley Serious Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:25:00 - [46] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? If you're allowed to do that, you don't have any incentive to go and burn those other people's city and take their women.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:25:00 - [47] Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Amastat So your saying adultery and bestiality isn't immoral? A) The world is overpopulated - it's really bad for us to keep having children right now. B) I am failing miserably to see how something like sheep shagging hurts militarizes and economies. C) Religion does not deter wars, their system of marriage does not deter wars. In fact, throughout history they have CAUSED wars. I fail to see how the system of marriage that prevents something like polygamy stop wars from happening. This at best is a theory, and would of only had a role back in archaic history when human civilization was more tribal. Point A. So? that's what it is like now, not what it was say 3000 years ago. The religious viewpoint has not shifted. Point B. It removes a reason to fight, to expand territory. Point C. Quite. The religious restrictions on sexual activities promote wars, as a means to expand the territory that society and associated religion controls. Or, how about this to illustrate my point? Man: I want sex, where can I get it? Religion: Only with women that you are married to. Or you will die a most horrible death. Man: There are no single women here. Religion: Go and take some from those people over there who don't follow our religion. Man: OK. Just like eating pork is immoral. Why? Because of such things as trichinosis, which makes eating unrefrigerated pork products risky, not because of any real moral dimension. Things that religions approve of, or prohibit, were all intended to ensure the survival of that society. A: Yea - that was thousands of years ago. kneels down little boy, do you know what the date today is? B: What the hell are you on? C: Your saying one thing, then you agree with what I say, yet your explanation is completely opposite to what I'm saying. Again - what the hell are you on? I'm saying that it has litte or not impact on war and religion. Your saying it does. Yet you say, "Quite?" I think you are misunderstanding my point. I'm saying that sexual preferance it has little or no impact on deicding when wars happen, and the economy. I don't recall there being any recent boom in any ass-sore cream industry in the last 100 years. This, therefore creates absolutely no drive for political reasons. Politicans use relgion as a tool to gain power. The only time religion has ever used politics wrongly was to create a voice for themselves and/or to gain power - in these events they are probably more interested in control and money, not what you do in the bedroom. The Crusades were an example, they were more worried about Muslims - Homosexuals were probably on the bottom of their problem list. As I said in past arguments on this topic, Religions have moved so far from what they were originally, it's really hard to tell what is still genuine anymore. Short version - It may of been like that along time ago; but its political now, the motives behind it in religion are completely different now. It's 2008 AD now, not BC. The rules have changed, so that history lesson is irrelevant right now and is no longer applicable - it's something you tell to your grandchildren and nothing else. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:26:00 - [48] Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 19:27:50 Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? If you're allowed to do that, you don't have any incentive to go and burn those other people's city and take their women. Shirley, are you in need of some people to sheep shag with or something? Trying to defend bestiality - wow, TIMELESS ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Shirley Serious Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Amastat It's a moral and fear issue, Yes. Quote: It always has been No.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:28:00 - [50] Edited by: Amastat on 14/05/2008 19:29:27 Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? If you're allowed to do that, you don't have any incentive to go and burn those other people's city and take their women. Shirley, are you in need of some people to sheep shag with or something? Defending Bestiality - EPIC. Edit: Double post, forum lag. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:29:00 - [51] Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? If you're allowed to do that, you don't have any incentive to go and burn those other people's city and take their women. I didn't realize we still lived in the viking era, my bad. I also didn't realize that sheep were a sole need for conquering cities, guess natural resources such as land was all just a cover. ____________________________________________ And yes I'll be gone soon.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 19:30:00 - [52] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Sheep shagging removes a reason to fight and expand territory? What? If you're allowed to do that, you don't have any incentive to go and burn those other people's city and take their women. I didn't realize we still lived in the viking era, my bad. I also didn't realize that sheep were a sole need for conquering cities, guess natural resources such as land was all just a cover. Everyone protect the sheep ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Xrak Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:30:00 - [53] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Xrak ITT internet people making up stories about how they are irresistible to * men. Insecure much? Not all computer geeks are 300lbs, pimply, and smelly. In my case I think the cowboy hat and tight jeans caused a lot of problems for me. Lol? I'm the insecure one? I'm not the one telling stories of how * guy's cant help but come on to you, then when pulled up on it you quickly, tell everyone how you aren't an overweight stereotypical gamer. Yea, I'm the insecure one. And the rest of the of the thread - I think you are over analysing Shirley.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:36:00 - [54] Originally by: Xrak Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Xrak ITT internet people making up stories about how they are irresistible to * men. Insecure much? Not all computer geeks are 300lbs, pimply, and smelly. In my case I think the cowboy hat and tight jeans caused a lot of problems for me. Lol? I'm the insecure one? I'm not the one telling stories of how * guy's cant help but come on to you, then when pulled up on it you quickly, tell everyone how you aren't an overweight stereotypical gamer. Yea, I'm the insecure one. And the rest of the of the thread - I think you are over analysing Shirley. If I was insecure I wouldn't be telling the stories now would I? You shouldn't let your envy come out like that. ____________________________________________ And yes I'll be gone soon.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:38:00 - [55] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Xrak Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Xrak ITT internet people making up stories about how they are irresistible to * men. Insecure much? Not all computer geeks are 300lbs, pimply, and smelly. In my case I think the cowboy hat and tight jeans caused a lot of problems for me. Lol? I'm the insecure one? I'm not the one telling stories of how * guy's cant help but come on to you, then when pulled up on it you quickly, tell everyone how you aren't an overweight stereotypical gamer. Yea, I'm the insecure one. And the rest of the of the thread - I think you are over analysing Shirley. If I was insecure I wouldn't be telling the stories now would I? You shouldn't let your envy come out like that. He made one little troll comment and now your giving into it. Amastat does not approve of this thread ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.05.14 20:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Amastat He made one little troll comment and now your giving into it. Amastat does not approve of this thread I honestly assumed he was one of the randoms that stroll through OOPE once in a blue moon, make a bad comment, and move on. My bad. ____________________________________________ And yes I'll be gone soon.
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:39:00 - [57] My sentiment too benco, the first half page was good, a proper discussion and then it all went to hell. I was really hoping that once, just once, a proper discussion could be had on these forums but sadly it seems it was not meant to be. Originally by: Verone Sweet baby jesus and his holy mother of pwn.
Xrak Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Cutter Isaacson My sentiment too benco, the first half page was good, a proper discussion and then it all went to hell. I was really hoping that once, just once, a proper discussion could be had on these forums but sadly it seems it was not meant to be. My apologies for dragging the thread down, but it was already in a pretty steep decline. Anyway if you want a proper discussion here is a better thread. And now and then there are good threads, I rather liked the Boris Johnson thread after he got elected. You just have to keep an eye open for them.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.14 21:46:00 - [59] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Benco97 What the hell happened in here? We figured out that sheep raping stops wars. \ THAT SIR - is A EPIC QUOTE! ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
Lal QelThyr Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.14 22:36:00 - [60] But what if they want to expand so that they can get more land, to raise more sheep!? In that case sheep shagging has directly caused a war! (- Dev Protective Shield. My sig is invincible! -)

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