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Suicideal Az
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Posted - 2004.04.30 07:55:00 -
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From the latest dev blog by Tomb:
The named Corporation Officers will be very rare and only be found around the head quarters of pirate factions. These officers will be both stronger than other commanders and dropping new ultra-rare and ultra-violent items.
Well thats just great isnt it, couldnt just make them totally randome in 0.0 noooo had to give the alliances a nice fat birthday present sitting a jump or 2 from there stations, fantastic, I think the situation sucks as it is this is just wrong. Yes im aware you can get a hunting pass to fountain this is not the point.
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Suicideal Az
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:32:00 -
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it would seem nobody cares much either, well im even more depressed now 
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Suicideal Az
it would seem nobody cares much either, well im even more depressed now
Why depressed, either join an alliance yourself or buy an FA hunting pass or something...
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Bsport
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Bsport on 30/04/2004 09:49:44
Edited by: Bsport on 30/04/2004 09:49:10
or even make a run for 0.0
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Bogenhagen
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:54:00 -
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All I can say is that the new NPC changes look kick ass.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:59:00 -
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.... The Legends of 0.0 space brutality are keeping carebears at bay beter that armed guards at gates.....
...if u go to za'hadum, you will die.....
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Power
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Posted - 2004.04.30 10:00:00 -
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Just because a regional alliance "claims" space dosent mean you just cant go there. From my experience its rather easy to hunt and mine. Most of the time they wont bother you as its not worth there time to try stop you.
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Mad Miner2
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Posted - 2004.04.30 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Siddy
.... The Legends of 0.0 space brutality are keeping carebears at bay beter that armed guards at gates.....
...if u go to za'hadum, you will die.....
LOL 
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Suicideal Az
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Posted - 2004.04.30 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Power
Just because a regional alliance "claims" space dosent mean you just cant go there. From my experience its rather easy to hunt and mine. Most of the time they wont bother you as its not worth there time to try stop you.
ok read this part again "only be found around the head quarters of pirate factions"
so let me get this right, you freely mine and NPC hunt around the main stations of the alliance held territory unmolested, i smell the sweet scent of bs.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.04.30 10:31:00 -
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I'd just be happy if they would get rid of the pilots in space on the scanner and have the ability to hide in local.
At least make it a bit more challanging to protect their borders so we could get at stuff like this.
It annoys me that everyone screams carebear whilst at the same time not allowing us into 80% of space because it's 'Alliance Territory'
If the scanners didn't tell them 3 hours in advance that I was on my way then perhaps I'd have a go at finding these corp officers and the like in Deepspace. At the moment it's not worth the 15 Million I *will* lose by having the **** blown out my caracal for having the nerve to go into *their* space.
I'll fight but not if it's pointless.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 30/04/2004 13:51:44
Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
I'd just be happy if they would get rid of the pilots in space on the scanner and have the ability to hide in local.
At least make it a bit more challanging to protect their borders so we could get at stuff like this.
It annoys me that everyone screams carebear whilst at the same time not allowing us into 80% of space because it's 'Alliance Territory'
If the scanners didn't tell them 3 hours in advance that I was on my way then perhaps I'd have a go at finding these corp officers and the like in Deepspace. At the moment it's not worth the 15 Million I *will* lose by having the **** blown out my caracal for having the nerve to go into *their* space.
I'll fight but not if it's pointless.
You understand the irony in that you are complaining about PLAYERS preventing you from hunting the hardest NPCs in a Caracal, right?
It's not like the NPCs would blow it up in 5 seconds anyway if you could get there?
And I translate the original post into "**edited by myself before a mod does it**".
Nevermind any logic, any balance, any RP etc. In fact, there should be 1337 NPCs spawning inside your hangar just for you, right?
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:18:00 -
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Go there anyway.
Try to get a bunch of friends together, and attack the big bad alliance that tries to stop you from killing the npcs there.
No big deal
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Earthan
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Suicideal Az
From the latest dev blog by Tomb:
The named Corporation Officers will be very rare and only be found around the head quarters of pirate factions. These officers will be both stronger than other commanders and dropping new ultra-rare and ultra-violent items.
Anybody knows where any headquarters are?
For Serpentis maybe the serpentis coil in 0.0 ( along with the story..) ..?
ANy other idea?
One more thing i ahve yesterday spent 3 hours to locate a ruin from my scanner.I have finnaly found it and found out its beautiful but besides there is absolutely nothing!!!I hoped for NPC bs at least... I was disgusted, spoiled me all the fun of exploring, no reward at all.I was so excited ..
Anybody found a ruin where NPC bs spawn? I dont expect typing me location:) , just wanted to know if they excist and if its in 0.0 or empire space
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:30:00 -
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There is plenty of opportunity to either carve out your own nichÚ in 0.0 or join an existing alliance. But you need to be inventive and bold.
...imo EVE rewards exactly the right sort of behaviour (indy ganking kestrel alts nonwithstanding).
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 30/04/2004 11:38:52
Where did I say that.
I know I'd get my ass kicked by Players and the NPC's but I would like to have the chance to get into slightly more interesting space on a more even footing than
'Oh look someones in our space, lets send 10 BS's after him'
Send 10 BS's and I'll have a go at all of them in a frigate if I have to. As it stands though there is no point in us even trying at the moment to get into tribute or its iik because the map is so against us that even if I took my Raven out with me I literally stand no chance of getting anywhere interesting in it because the alliances get so much warning as to someones presence with no effort on their part. That's what is wrong at the moment.
Killing me easily is fine. Bring it on. Finding me should be harder.
IMHO
/emote looking for a Lawyer to start an Antitrust suit.
Oh I do go to 0.0 and have been doing so since my third day so I know there are opportunities there but I don't agree that the territories should take up so much of the game map.
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Earthan
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:51:00 -
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I understand your feelings , i loved to explore , go to 0.0 back whehn i was alone, then in a small self founded corp.IT really cut me joy all space was closed.Got chased from Fountain, Stain...
But now that i am in an alliance for a long time, i really understand the need for closing systems. The rare ore gets mined out instantly if you open borders.
I dont know if you know only reasonable way is to not mine rare ore below a treshold value (500-1000) so it regrow much faster, it works and is very effective.Even with closed borders we have hard time taking care its respected.
Second thing spies and enemies.A alliance usually have many powerful enimies, very hard to watch if they are coming to attack on map , to keep safe from spies if the borders are open.
I would love to see a single big 0.0 region with no alliance over it, for players like you or me before, but i cant think of any game mechanics that could ensure this.Maybe a in game pact of all bigger alliances..?Hard to organise and there would have to be an armed neutral force to patrol it i f no bigger group tries to take control over the space...
I really strongly reccomend: Make your corp join an alliance , or join a corp that is in alliance.Its really much more fun.
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Adriana
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:52:00 -
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They grief fine as is lol. So they are going to be getting better tools to do it now? LMAO!!!
Not sure who is doing what to TomB (or maybe TomB is doing stuff to them?), but this is just wrong. These guys should spawn in space where no player can dock. They should be in DEEP space, and it should take MANY players to kill them since they will effectively be "boss" mobs.
It's a great concept imo, but a really ****ty implimentation.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.30 11:59:00 -
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What is more fun is to not join an alliance and go there anyways, ignore the grunts they'll always threaten to kill you 'cause they know nothing else but deal professionally with the people in charge.
You get a much more powerful rush pulling something off fending for yourself than yawning away over the arkanor in some complacant end game alliance.
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Earthan
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:04:00 -
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Well dont know about others but you wont mine long in our space.We really chase fast intruders.
And a loong time agon in Fountain and Stain i also got chased fast around 1-2 hours of active palying till some bs found me
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lao Tzu on 30/04/2004 12:16:42
Well the blood raiders HQ in in 0.3 space, and bloods are real easy to kill.
Fountain will probably be a good spot for serpentis, and the FA sell hunting passes at 1 mill a day, when you have a pass fountain is usualy safer than 0.1-0.4 empire space (untill the guys from next door drop in).
Venal will have the good Guristas spawns, but the PA are ******* and kill any outsiders on sight, but then Guritas 'rats are, at the moment, by far the hardest to deal with.
As for the others I guess the CA will have 'em. (I don't know much about that side of space).
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:16:00 -
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The problem is that better NPC mobs appeal primarily to people who like the PVE aspect of the game, but joining an alliance means instantly being forced into a lot of PVP combat because all the alliances seem to be constantly at war just for the fun of it. So people who don't like to do a lot of PVP can't fight the good NPCs thanks to the greed of the various alliances.
After all, NPC hunters do NOT threaten an alliance in any way. I for one would be quite willing to stop at a specified gate and submit to a ship scan which would show I had NO mining gear (and therefore won't threaten your precious rocks) and to let you verify I'm not in a pirate / enemy corp. You in the various alliances KNOW who your enemies are... letting neutral pilots who aren't rigged for mining into your space is not going to hurt you at all (and don't give me the alt spy argument... serious NPCs require a battleship or maybe an interceptor pack to hunt and how many alts can fly those?). And if someone DOES abuse your hospitality, that's what KOS lists are for!
And besides, don't roids respawn properly now anyway? If you have numerous Ark and Bis rocks in every belt of every system in an area I doubt it'd be mined out very fast... I've seen too many Bis roids in the old CFS space (which is more or less open territory, at least compared to most) to believe that overmining is actually a real threat. You just don't want to have to make 10-20 jumps out to get your ore so you practice controlled harvesting near stations... but if you count ALL the ore in all your regions instead of just what's convenient it's effectively an near unlimited supply. But then who wants to make 20 jumps for Ark when they can make 5, right?
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:16:00 -
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Mr Az, if you would like access to great wildlands reigon that is under CA protectorate territory TOGCO can help. We dont like the fact the borders are closed to people and we can get you in and out safetly at absolutely no Financial or benefit to us, we would rather see the space free and we can also help you once inside the reigon. We can problably provide you with a secure container if you like and if pre ordered we can make ammo for you at our local station. We ourselfs are KOS in GW but we have been operateing there since CA took over and we still do what we want.
We dont lose ship unless we mean to, you have to be precautous and move at the right times but if you would like to contact us we can help with fellow travellers.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Suicideal Az
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
I'd just be happy if they would get rid of the pilots in space on the scanner and have the ability to hide in local.
At least make it a bit more challanging to protect their borders so we could get at stuff like this.
It annoys me that everyone screams carebear whilst at the same time not allowing us into 80% of space because it's 'Alliance Territory'
If the scanners didn't tell them 3 hours in advance that I was on my way then perhaps I'd have a go at finding these corp officers and the like in Deepspace. At the moment it's not worth the 15 Million I *will* lose by having the **** blown out my caracal for having the nerve to go into *their* space.
I'll fight but not if it's pointless.
You understand the irony in that you are complaining about PLAYERS preventing you from hunting the hardest NPCs in a Caracal, right?
It's not like the NPCs would blow it up in 5 seconds anyway if you could get there?
And I translate the original post into "Mom, some guys are better than me @ EVE. It's not fair".
Nevermind any logic, any balance, any RP etc. In fact, there should be 1337 NPCs spawning inside your hangar just for you, right?
Hey Dalman why dont you buy me a drink sometime, maybe it may have something adult to contribute apart from an uncalled for flame, im not asking for spawns to be on my doorstep just the same as i dont expect the latest uber spawns to be on alliance doorsteps either, a randome spawn anywhere in 0.0 would be fair, but yeah life aint fair yaddaa yaddaa yaddaa........
No flaming please, keep it civil - Zhuge Liang
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Reloaded INC
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:33:00 -
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wellllll if u really wanted to get a bunch of semi new corps that are itching for a fight "i know they are their" and haul arss out to 0.0 space and try to fight your way through them and mine like crazy
im not saying, im doing this or it will work, but their are a new breed of players itching to get out into 0.0 space but lack the numbers or finacial and industrial backing prevents them from doing so.
maybe if u are really interested in taking down the big boys and getting acess to those shiny new spawn sites you should look at the glass being half full ( or empty ) and find an alternitive way rather than flaming tomb for rewarding people brave enough to take the intitave in the first place
may i also remind u this is deffinitly a con for empire dwellers and a pro for lawless gankers who have **** sec status so their are deffinitly advantages showing to the long heated debate about sec status "bugs" ect
ill just hope u do it soon (tm)
I am the bad guy the kriptonite the green cronic.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:37:00 -
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"Camp check please........"
"Gurista Commander. No list"
Please No. No no no no.
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Power
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Power on 30/04/2004 12:47:55
Originally by: Suicideal Az
Originally by: Power
Just because a regional alliance "claims" space dosent mean you just cant go there. From my experience its rather easy to hunt and mine. Most of the time they wont bother you as its not worth there time to try stop you.
ok read this part again "only be found around the head quarters of pirate factions"
so let me get this right, you freely mine and NPC hunt around the main stations of the alliance held territory unmolested, i smell the sweet scent of bs.
First off npc huning near core systems shouldnt be a problem as long as you aint stupid. Also depending on the region you can mine near the edge close to empire. Fountain had plenty of nice ore only 3 jumps from a station in a 0.1 system
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seoul
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Posted - 2004.04.30 12:46:00 -
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How does a corp join an alliance anyhow ?
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2004.04.30 13:06:00 -
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0.0 news:
corps can join alliances, most alliances have a website, usually witha forum that allows corps to apply.
people can join corps that are in alliances, You will find a list of corps belonging to particular alliance on their website.
alliance corp members do not spend all there time in 0.0. You can find them virtually everywhere most corps will mention the alliance they are part of in the description of their corp.
some alliances have an open area which is 'free' to hunt in.
some alliances will charge for the privilege of a hunting/ mining pass.
So please do not make out Alliances are some negative bugbear just open a dialog with an alliance you would like to join. They consist of players just like you.
Yes Alliance Members often KOS non-Alliance members: This not because they are keeping you out for the sake of fun.
It is because they have to defend themselves against very strong PvPers from other alliances and forces like m0o and evolution( who know every trick in the book because they wrote it) and they cannot risk potential unknowns in their territories remember 0.0 Alliances do not have gate guns defending their industrials like their opposite numbers in empire space do. Remember 0.0 alliances mining ops use lots of industrials to haul their goods to their refineries which tend to be in a different systems to the 'mining face'.
So have a little Sympathy for alliances they have their work cut out for them.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.04.30 13:10:00 -
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Quote:
So have a little Sympathy for alliances they have their work cut out for them.
And so they should :P
That was a good post btw.
For the record I have no problem with these spawns being in Alliance space but as I said I think the borders are too easy to control at the moment because of the uber map and that for me is the only problem.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.04.30 13:23:00 -
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Have you whiny 'i can't go into 0.0 blehblah' types ever considered trying?
Have you ever considered playing this game even?
The safety of empire space is there for nubs to learn the game and get familiar with it. This is not meant for people to spend their enitre EVE lives there. Of course alot of people make that out of it and then want ti to be even safer so they never ever have to face ANY risks.
But then there is complainin when you as a nub (living in empire space means your a nub) don't have acces to the highest lvl content???
The major issue is i think that everyone who lives in empire space is way way to pampered. They hear stories about 0.0 and being ganked.
You should try it for yourself, learn and adapt, became aware to the real EVE....and have some fun ;)
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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