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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 30/04/2004 09:36:34
OMG
please help me to get My sec status up !!
Pre castor it was so much easier - u culd Bribe Concord
Make Concord missions
and other ways
Now - pirats are repressed - espesialy pirats who want to get out of piracy
i myself are trying to get out of piracy and do something else
Why dont CCP want to support ppls who want to stop pirating??
because if i cant get out of piratism - only way left to me is to continue piratism - making more greef in other words
why dont u want to help ppls who realy want to stop being evil - its not like real life or anything (and eve in real life u have beter chanse to get out of "minus sec" that in EVE) 
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.30 09:38:00 -
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oh .. and the Removal of Miroitem BS spawn point Made my sec status patching ALOT more harder....
The 0.0213% sec change Every 10 minutes from BS rat whuld rais my sec in 2 Weeks at the point were i culd entter 1.0 systems agen... abaut -1,4 sec by my calculations
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DampJim
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Posted - 2004.04.30 10:26:00 -
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Hey siddy ... gonna quit pirating. Isnt it fun anymore? It should take time to build up your Sec status again. Otherwise many people should kill others for a while and then use 2 weeks to get "Lawful" again. Thats not right is it?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.30 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 30/04/2004 13:29:04
at this rate i whuld get acsessable sec to get in 1.0 somewere at 2007 .....
Ofcorse - if CCP dont want me to behave... i can go back and start killing right away ....
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DampJim
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Posted - 2004.04.30 13:35:00 -
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oh 2007 is a little to far. It should not take THAT long time. I think a month or so would be good. Then the ppl qho have violated the laws of the universe have suffered enough.
So im with u in this one siddy
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Dejavu
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Posted - 2004.04.30 14:55:00 -
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Siddy, no more pirating? what you gonna start doing? Mining? HAHA
See trough you man, but i agree with you, sec needs to be fixed like many other stuff
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.30 15:42:00 -
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im not going to mine - i need a "decent seck" so i can get in one of the FA alliance corps
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Strider oTO
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Posted - 2004.04.30 18:24:00 -
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Once a pirate, always a pirate. Even if you were to change your sec, you would still have the reputation of a pirate. You want to go good? Start a new character....
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DampJim
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Posted - 2004.04.30 18:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Strider oTO
Once a pirate, always a pirate. Even if you were to change your sec, you would still have the reputation of a pirate. You want to go good? Start a new character....
dont be so harsh on him. He just wants to change his style of playing. Not even Siddy could be so evil they cant be turned.
But still i did want to kill u once Siddy cause i think u killed a guy in my corp once. Maybe ill visit u in FA space 
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Masochist
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Posted - 2004.04.30 21:03:00 -
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We have a Pirate Rehabilitation Program.
KOMR Reccruitment Ad
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.30 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 30/04/2004 22:10:18
Originally by: DampJim
Originally by: Strider oTO
Once a pirate, always a pirate. Even if you were to change your sec, you would still have the reputation of a pirate. You want to go good? Start a new character....
dont be so harsh on him. He just wants to change his style of playing. Not even Siddy could be so evil they cant be turned.
But still i did want to kill u once Siddy cause i think u killed a guy in my corp once. Maybe ill visit u in FA space
oh please do visit FA space - were u get Ruthlesly gankked'n spankked by Zilion gilion angry Guards at gate ...
but eather way - if i get in that FA corp (asuming i get my secstatus up)- i will behave - but if the sec status dont change i got no other chiose but to continue to gankk miners...
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Blooded Heromy
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Posted - 2004.05.01 00:00:00 -
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Upps, there is one of my cookies  , now im askin you guys nicely, have you seen the rest of my COOKIES ?
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Jamze
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Posted - 2004.05.01 10:19:00 -
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I like my sec status.. However i do agree that is too hard to gain sec status.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.01 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Masochist
We have a Pirate Rehabilitation Program.
KOMR Reccruitment Ad
tsk tsk - shamles plug 
whats the pirat REhabitation program is abaut?
maybe ill try it
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.05.01 11:14:00 -
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Whatever people think of pirates, I agree, that sec rating is dumb. And whoever thinks that only pirates have negative sec ratings / bounties, well, think again.
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Lord Ronska
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Posted - 2004.05.01 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Siddy
im not going to mine - i need a "decent seck" so i can get in one of the FA alliance corps
I would still kill u, even if u ever made it to FA. And joining FA might be a problem, because u are FA kos listed.
U are braking my balls!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.01 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Ronska
Originally by: Siddy
im not going to mine - i need a "decent seck" so i can get in one of the FA alliance corps
I would still kill u, even if u ever made it to FA. And joining FA might be a problem, because u are FA kos listed.
oh man - u are still angry for ..what?
anyway - u can kill me if u ask nicely
but abaut the joining ... well Tuoni say that if i get mi seck up and behave there will not be any problems ..
but the forums is not realy the plase to discuss thees things i think..
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.05.01 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Masochist
We have a Pirate Rehabilitation Program.
KOMR Reccruitment Ad
So where can I buy me one of them slave girls?
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Nuclear Baggins
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Posted - 2004.05.01 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Siddy
im not going to mine - i need a "decent seck" so i can get in one of the FA alliance corps
hey siddy hope u get it sorted 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.01 17:39:00 -
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Siddy, u can join my corp!
as long as u behave!!! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.01 18:04:00 -
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lol - u pimps...
ill keep it in mind ice
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Vaari
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Posted - 2004.05.03 21:52:00 -
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Siddy, you are pirate now and always
This beginning.
This birth of life.
This dawn of greatness.
I can not fail, for I have the Emperor to lead me and destiny to follow.
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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.05.04 00:48:00 -
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Yup its lame aint it. ive had my -9.8 for months i havent killed a single person and i have fast talk. but because im in 0.0 i cant get sec improvments when i kill npc's or at least it seams that way judiding from the fact that ive killed thousands and havent gained a single point. so heres were it stands i need to kill lots of npcs in high sec space to get my rating back but because my rating is low i cant get into high sec space.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.04 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Vaari
Siddy, you are pirate now and always
and u are orecan popper and lamer n00b killer - so, who is worse ?
anyway - back to topick
What CCCP is going to do abaut it ?
it starts realy ruining my game experience BIG time...
and i know that abaut 15% of EVE population is sufering from this bug/feature 
so 1500 peoples (aprox) is bad thing to CCCP to ignore
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.05.04 09:14:00 -
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I assume there is a bug affecting some people in regards to their security rating. I spent 2 days killing NPC's and went from about -0.1 to -0.02...
I get some security status, but man it's slow. I can only imagine starting at -10.0
I think CCP screwed up majorly when they suddenly changed the rules. They should have rest all negative security status to a point that would allow said player to enter all empire system.
Now I migh thear ppl scream unfair, but it's not. If that person still wish to be evil in empire his security will degrade again and he'll blocked out again. But at least he knew the new rules.
Of he wish to do like the rest of us and just kill people in 0.0 he will be fine like the rest of us.
It's bad manners to change rules like that and screw over a lot of players. Sure, they are "evil" pirates, but they played by the rules untill CCP screwed them over with new rules.
Bad manners CCP, bad manners!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:19:00 -
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*cough* bump *cough*
any "official" response to this problem from CCP?
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Vaari
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Posted - 2004.05.05 12:08:00 -
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Siddy is evil pirate.
This beginning.
This birth of life.
This dawn of greatness.
I can not fail, for I have the Emperor to lead me and destiny to follow.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.06 15:16:00 -
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bump
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Erast Akunin
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Posted - 2004.05.07 04:34:00 -
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As always, Im offering 500k from Vaari's stinking corpse. He's annoying lil' bastard and pathetic ore-thief.
Have a Nice Day !
btw..Good luck Siddy.
-Erast
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Adriana
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Posted - 2004.05.07 07:23:00 -
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Having read many of your posts Siddy, it's a good thing I'm not in charge. If I were you would go on the Perma -10.0 list.
In multiple posts you have talked about how much you enjoyed ganking people, you set up to get around the new gate guns, etc.
You chose this style of play, and obviously enjoy it, I see no purpose you would use a higher sec status for other than to gank people, or to get access to the FA alliance so you can gank more people...but you don't need sec status to do this in 0.0 space. So stay there.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.07 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 07/05/2004 08:14:50
and then agen i come to the point that this is a game
and on the discreption on EVE box was: "You can change proffessions whir little trouble"
sooo... when CCP going to live up it promices?
And the point, that i realised - gankking peoples is makiking most of them feel bad! Made me try atleast to change my current proffesion - but CCP aint helpping much
i guess i need ot get back gankking people then
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Vaari
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Posted - 2004.05.07 09:39:00 -
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ARRR!
Erast Akunin must die!
This beginning.
This birth of life.
This dawn of greatness.
I can not fail, for I have the Emperor to lead me and destiny to follow.
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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.05.18 04:31:00 -
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What I hate the most is that ppl in eve dont understand we playing a ROLE playing game ,just becors im playing a role as a pirate and think its fun to kill in this game .. dosent meen im a bad persion in RL.. point is why not listen to us pirates CCP? :P
hint -The "evil doers" is under threat of extermination in EVE- Call international HOT-LINE 555-ccpdontreallycareaslongasthaygettheremonthlypayche |
June li
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Posted - 2004.05.18 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Siddy
Edited by: Siddy on 30/04/2004 13:29:04
at this rate i whuld get acsessable sec to get in 1.0 somewere at 2007 .....
Ofcorse - if CCP dont want me to behave... i can go back and start killing right away ....
Im pretty sure CCP dont really care if you pirate or not, its a part of the game they wanted included. I do see your point though, it shouldnt be easy to get your sec status up, but it shouldnt be so ridiculously hard either.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.05.18 05:30:00 -
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I agree something has to be done.
It makes NO sense at all why people are punished for pirating. Not letting ppl in systems because of sec ratings is just lazy and stupid.
Make it easier up sec rating or change it so that people with low security in high security systems can be punished by PLAYERS not npc ganka cops.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.05.18 06:07:00 -
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/emote whistles innocently as she bumps any thread concerning/complaining about the INSANE SECURITY STATUS SYSTEM implemented since Castor.
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.05.18 18:34:00 -
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They don't do much to ****er all these statements either.
Papa smurf seem to be the only one that has opened his mouth about PvP, even if he was joking I'll mean.
Linkage
hmmm...waiting for statement or changes!
A free world with chooises and limitaitions of the one's living it.
-out!
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.05.18 19:01:00 -
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remember, this is a game you shouldn't have to suffer 
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2004.05.18 20:52:00 -
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This surely proves that some pirates are just as much whiners as carebears.
'Stay in Empire if you dont wanna get gank'd, noob' is so often heard from pirates, and now im throwing it back on you.
STAY IN 0.0 IF YOU DONT WANT A SEC DROP
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Tuonela Rautamieli
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Posted - 2004.05.19 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tuonela Rautamieli on 19/05/2004 00:21:45
Edited by: Tuonela Rautamieli on 19/05/2004 00:18:58
Edited by: Tuonela Rautamieli on 19/05/2004 00:16:20
Originally by: Siddy
but abaut the joining ... well Tuoni say that if i get mi seck up and behave there will not be any problems ..
U bihave, guut! me BIG like much...
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2004.05.19 00:19:00 -
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If you gain 0.01 sec status / 15 min it will take you 240 hours to gain -10 > 0
That is 10 days of strait playing or
20 days of 12 hours / day killing NPC or
40 days of 6 hours / day or
80 days of 3 hours / day and this is the one i would be in about 3 hours each day do i play Eve and 80 days it way to much since you get from 0 > -10 on 2 hours killing players at a gate with decent trafic
It should be more balanced.... Maybe only loose once every 15 min aswell as it is with gaining i dont know
But anyhow 80 days is way way to long time to only kill NPC just to get back to 0 again
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.19 01:14:00 -
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niiiice bump
a little arkeology forum trip
anyway - i hope devs FINALY do something abaut it - like fix that 5% increas weekly
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.23 14:43:00 -
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Woohoo wohoo yay yay !!
i fialy got my seck form -3.6 to -3,5
i can now entter 0.7 space
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Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:25:00 -
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My sec status was at -4.9 when castor came out and is now a -4.6 all because i pirated in empire space for about 2 weeks.(remember SPVD and Aurohunen). Its a pain and i really wish CCP would do something about it.
P.S I still have my neg sec status and i was accepted into FA
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:35:00 -
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Doesn't social skill boost security status gains?
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Lab Kociak
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Posted - 2004.05.24 19:54:00 -
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As someone pointed out, if you want pirating, go to 0.0
Lame wannabies stay in .4 to hit unsuspecting prey, then whine about consequences.
Live with it, I hope your security status never goes up.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.24 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 24/05/2004 21:24:49
Originally by: Lab Kociak
As someone pointed out, if you want pirating, go to 0.0
Lame wannabies stay in .4 to hit unsuspecting prey, then whine about consequences.
Live with it, I hope your security status never goes up.
Thous Big Grizzly hairy pirats did start somewere did the?
i mean - 0.4 is training ground before actual 0.0
so if u call me lame wannabe u (and ur primary charackter) can visit me in vast Stain space or maybe in catch
anyway - this current Sec status thinggy is Royaly B0rkked
the 5% weekly resetetion towards 0.0 is b0rkked and CCP cant even comment the situation
idd say this is bull-p00
/edit: i've seen the light and came to bright side abaut 2 and half months ago - so u cant realy say that i am a pirat can u? - oh, and when chainging to bright sight, remeber to bring sunshades
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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.05.24 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tobruk on 24/05/2004 23:59:27
i have the same problem siddy does and i have petitioned and been cold shoulderd 4 times by ccp. i have been a good boy for 4 months now and have seen my sec rating increase by .3 even after killing thousands of bs npcs. i even researched the apparently useless fast talk skill to lvl 4 in an attempt to lower my rating. at this point its absurd and particularly insulting as ccp has essentailly ignored me despite the fact that i porbly send them nearly 60 a month in fees and have brought a small community of people into the game. i only wish ccp would pay as much attention to us as they do to the people who whine about what we did them eh siddy or the people who cry about nerfing frigs ect. I changed my ways but i cant improve my sec and i cant even get a response from ccp.
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Draaken
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Posted - 2004.05.25 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Toastmaster
But anyhow 80 days is way way to long time to only kill NPC just to get back to 0 again
I'd say killing off other players is a bit more grave than trying to be a good boy again (just to eventually see that ganking is oh-so-much-more-fun and go back to it, hm?), so I think 80 days is perfectly fine. You wanna be a good boy after ganking people? Live with waiting and being punished this way, if other ways are not working.
I wouldn't trust my silver to a former thief, so why would CCP tweak the sec increase to leave former gankers back into safe systems?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.25 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Draaken
Originally by: Toastmaster
But anyhow 80 days is way way to long time to only kill NPC just to get back to 0 again
I'd say killing off other players is a bit more grave than trying to be a good boy again (just to eventually see that ganking is oh-so-much-more-fun and go back to it, hm?), so I think 80 days is perfectly fine. You wanna be a good boy after ganking people? Live with waiting and being punished this way, if other ways are not working.
I wouldn't trust my silver to a former thief, so why would CCP tweak the sec increase to leave former gankers back into safe systems?
For killing other players is why its caled Massive multiplayer online! (apart of other things too)
if u dont want get killed by other players get ur arse to some singleplayer game ans be god there 
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.05.25 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Draaken
1. You wanna be a good boy after ganking people? Live with waiting and being punished this way, if other ways are not working.
2. I wouldn't trust my silver to a former thief, so why would CCP tweak the sec increase to leave former gankers back into safe systems?
1) punished for playing a GAME, the way it says you can on the back of the box? How novel.
2) because RL != GAME?
seek professional help.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Alastra
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Posted - 2004.05.26 16:45:00 -
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Say what you want they are not going to hear you...
Quote:
1532
New criminal flagging system is completed now. It needs a lot of testing. More information will be released asap.
... or maybe yes they are going to hear you.
Nuponi Nimedaz: "You're a pilot after my own heart, Alastra." |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:03:00 -
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Bah - back to -3.8
Gankked m0o at Hophib .. yes yes i know u get hit in empire 0.0 - but killing m0o tempest is lil more atractive
anyway - back to square 1
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.27 21:47:00 -
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mhh i think in 3 month NPC hunting ill be able to go back to 0.8 ^^
this is sooo sucky
Wanna fly with me?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.28 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 28/05/2004 20:32:47
Originally by: Alastra
Say what you want they are not going to hear you...
Quote:
1532
New criminal flagging system is completed now. It needs a lot of testing. More information will be released asap.
... or maybe yes they are going to hear you.
i wonder how that will help me to get sec back ?
i mean comoom - who that sec system realy serve?
its not like pirats are killing ppls 0.5 and above
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2004.05.29 04:41:00 -
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Not happy with the sec system
Please support my sig. It's getting lonley all on it's own.
And no, no one can have my stuff.
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CEO of the Space Munchkins.
Fear my kneepads of allure!
Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.30 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 30/05/2004 00:40:44
How long till this forum is filled with threads of people moaning that CCP have a *insert big expletive* awful security system in place (relating to the missing forgiveness bits primarily) and how they pay good money to see the company theyre paying ignore them?
Well if i can help it not long at all. C'mon TomB you know we aint gonna let this one go until you actually give us (that's the paying customer btw) a firm, open and frank answer.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Angry Dan
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Posted - 2004.05.30 17:05:00 -
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I thhink the sec system is causing problmes. The problem being we (the empire types) don't want a bucnch of gun bunnies going on a kill krazy rampage all the time.
However, we would also like to see you peeps travel through the empire areas occasionally. Gives us something to sell too.
You bad people want to go to empire space, mainly so you don't have to spend all day flying round the galaxy, looking for newbies on velators to slaughter with your tachyon modal lasers.
Heres my solution. People pay a fee based on your sec and bounty to travel trough empire. You pod someone, you lose the money, and youer victim gets reimbursed.
The link in my sig goes into it in greater detail.
HEY LOOK! WE BOTH GET WHAT WE WANT!
Kthnxbye.
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CEO of the Space Munchkins.
Fear my kneepads of allure!
Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:10:00 -
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You bad people want to go to empire space, mainly so you don't have to spend all day flying round the galaxy, looking for newbies on velators to slaughter with your tachyon modal lasers.
given that my rating came from rp'ing a minmatar freedom fighter for ten months, your crass assumption is quite galling, but i do like the idea you suggest.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Angry Dan
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Posted - 2004.05.31 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Viqer Fell
You bad people want to go to empire space, mainly so you don't have to spend all day flying round the galaxy, looking for newbies on velators to slaughter with your tachyon modal lasers.
given that my rating came from rp'ing a minmatar freedom fighter for ten months, your crass assumption is quite galling, but i do like the idea you suggest.
Sorry about that, but the only people I've noticed forum screaming that the sec system is borked are the people who spawn camp in .4 It makes a change to see a roleplayer out there.
Never mind. Hopefully you can free alll those slaves, and I can liberate Caldari prime with a fleet of Ravens :)
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CEO of the Space Munchkins.
Fear my kneepads of allure!
Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.05.31 02:39:00 -
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" Walks through the tunnel leading to his little trusted Cruiser" Hmmmm, yet another day to go kill people and take their stuff. It is good to be a pirate. Let's kill and mame and rob people from their hardearned belongings.
" I hop in my chair, turn on my Z3000 Engines and listen to the humming that slowly increses to a roaring. A kind of scream for more blood."
Only a few seconds later I cleared the launchingtube and I start looking for prey. Then my radar picks up 2 unsuspecting ships. A simple Osprey and a Badger MKII. This will be a nice start of the day.
The fight is short and soon the bodies of those foolish pilots drift in space. I loot what I want and leave the rest to drift in space as a sort of token to others that I am around.
But at some point I get bored so I start killing a few Guristas and Sancha pirates so people will see I am a buddy now. It doesnt matter that I killed a bunch of people for my own pleasure and profits. I just kill a few pirateships and all is well and all will love me again and say I am a nice boy.
Well atleast half of this story is true and I dont think it is the second half.
You want to play a pirate, play it, but dont whine it is so hard to get into good standings again. Months or weeks of killing others cant be and shouldnt be corrected by a few weeks of NPC pirate killing. You burned your bumm, now sit on the blisters.
And if you dont like it then thats your problem. What comes around goes around. Nobody wants a mass murderer back in civilisation and if it is hard to be accepted as a normal human being again then so be it.
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.02 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 02/06/2004 17:30:37
Why are these posts filled with responses of the uneducated ill informed bisbegotten asumptions and opinions of the criminally stupid?
KillerGandry thank you for stopping to troll this post on the way to getting yourself a clue.
Try reading the post fully next time. I am not a pirate. I do not camp 0.4 gates. I got this rating from role playing a prominent character in the Minmatar freedom struggle. I am not expecting instacures for a bad rating, what I do desire though is that after killing a few people (which many enjoyed and sent mails to that effect) that I can worl hard for a few weeks or months to regain my rating not be effectively permanently banned from empire which the current system does do.
Many of the people I attacked actually had fun as we always role played our fights. I have now had to give up my role playing as majority of the fights in that conflict are becoming more and more empire based and it meant to get to most systems I was flying for 10 times the distance to get to same system and was usually unable to enter the system as it was 0.6 etc.
I am moaning about the system not because I wish to go into empire to gank newbs or whatever the current kiddie phraseology is. It's because I actually wish to get involved in the game events more and also that I can return to my role playing which CCP borked with this current system.
I knew that when role playing previously I was able to gradually and slowly recover a rating. Then one day without warning I was suddenly and effectively banned from empire.
I have two options now. Stay away from empire for ever knowing that my main reason for playing has been removed from me through implementation of a, imo, very poor system. Or secondly I become one of those 0.4 gate camping pirate ppl. I don't want to do this but I am pretty sick of not knowing where I stand. Hence the desire for CCP to give us an answer no matter what it is!
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Bhal'rog
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Posted - 2004.06.02 20:19:00 -
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Clue: Just because a pilot has a negative security status does not make the pilot a pirate.
PVPers do fall on both sides of the "Law".
Role Players, bounty hunters, space cops/pirate hunters and curious newbs have been living with negative sec status for a long time now.
Pilots should have the opportunity to role play "Dudley Duright" and try to keep low sec. empire space free of pirates. The reality of the situation makes this impossible.
Example: Dudley Duright is uber and kills several of the most notorious pirates in the galaxy. Low and behold his sec. status is now as low as the scurvy scum he brought to justice and he can now no longer enter the space he so galantly defended.
So please, refain from the knee jerk reaction, "what's the matter pirate, can't gank n00bs in empire", it is just ignorant, please consider all aspects of the game.
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Yamatar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Yamatar on 03/06/2004 00:26:38
Yup I stopped pirating ( a short experiment) over 2 months ago. gained like 0.01 since then despite killing 0.0 bs etc.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.06.03 01:00:00 -
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I stopped giving a **** about my sec rating last year but still, the sec rating system is horrifically unbalanced.
Nice to see people using the forums to fight their battles against pirates  must be quite thrilling to have an issue you can taunt a pirate character with and not end up losing your ship
Oh and btw, anyone with an IQ of over 35 realises this isn't an issue about piracy. Just look at the roster of any Merc or Anti-Pirate corp. out there
And lastly. Bumping old threads, tsk tsk
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.06.03 01:08:00 -
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yeah, boost meh ss to
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khainestar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 13:07:00 -
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Although my sec status is currently 0.0 I will add my voice to the crowd saying the security gains are rubbish. I know 3 people that have sec ratings of -1.5 and -2.0 but they are not pirates they mearly defended some mates. They got it from attacking people in a 0.4 system after other members of the mining party had been attacked. So for them to get a negative rating for defending someone with no way to recover the lose is stupid.
There should be a way for someone to regain sec status. Not easy but possible.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.06.03 13:42:00 -
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I know when i was a complete noob, (two weeks ago)...I managed to **** off Concord...
Knocked me down to -.04 in one smack...And I was up to .01 almost .02....
When happened, I actually started to look at the bonus for Rat kills to security rating and notice the above problem...You don't get crap..(average of .0015)...Actually ran the numbers for a few days...
Three hundred (or whatever it is) kills later I have pushed back too .02 Positive by hunting NPC Rats in 0.6....I am only a Tristan Pilot...
I have to agree with "what" a lot have been saying...Everything else in the EVE Universe is for sale...Why not your security rating.... Do something like this:
Current: 0.05
Bail: + 1
Cost: 5 mill...
The lower you are the bigger the cost....Also make the most you can push it postive with money is back to 1.0....
Just some thouhts...
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:21:00 -
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i have never pirated, n00bganked in empire or anywhere near it (i need this qualifier due to altfrigatewhackings handed out whilst in the CA =) ), griefed or any such thing.
I have never had a 1.0 or higher sec rating, because i was doing other oracle-related stuff when sec was pathetically easy to get and now it's too late.
I was 0.8 i don't know, bloody ages, eventually a few months ago went up to 0.9.
I have been playing this character since release.
One event - impoc hunt - and i dropped instantly back to 0.8.
i expect in another year or so i *might* be back to 0.9 .
As Viqer says, this is ridiculous. If you don't want us to do anything besides choose between "miner" and "ganker," please say so and we will choose accordingly. Otherwise, the system needs fixin'.
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Drac Dragnog
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Posted - 2004.06.03 15:36:00 -
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Im right there with ya harlequin.... .8 was my peak just got back to .1 from a few fights in .4 to protect my miners, its not pretty these days out there... I found it easier to get ranking doing agent kill missions...
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.03 22:55:00 -
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Thanks for all the positive replies guys.
Just to clarify this is nothing to do with bumping old threads. This is a longstanding thread which has been kept current by many people who have a serious issue with CCP's lack of communication on this one single topic.
I would like to thank the mods for allowing us to demonstrate our unhappiness and desire for CCP to be honest with its player base by not locking this thread for spurious (i.e. oooh bumping old threads) reasons.
And if a mod does happen to read this and perhaps knows TomB in any way, even if you just know his grannies second best mate's dad's friends niece's babysitter or something, please poke him in this direction. You may wish to mention the number of views and replies this post and several similar ones have. They represent some of the most viewed threads going and demonstrate the strength of feeling held by the player base in this regard.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.04 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viqer Fell
CCP's lack of communication on this one single topic.
Lack of "communication" is wery _soft_ way to say thatCCP is TOTALY ignoring _any_ tread abaut sec status and such...
they have prolly installed a "sec status" filtter on theyr PC so when moderators/devs log in They dont even see the whole tread
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.06.05 05:03:00 -
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 Read my reply carefully, I was talking about pirates for one, second of all I hate PvP, be it with pirate players, be it by roleplayers or whomever. But if I want to mine the stuff that gives me the opportunity to increase my income and therefore my chances for better ships and stuff then I will be forced to PvP. NEWSFLASH. There are actually people in this game who get limited in their movement aswell, and that mainly due to those that love to PvP. Do they care about that? Nop. And if you roleplay some character who might have the right intentions but still acts outside the law, then why should the law accept you in that easy. I am quit satisfied with the sec rating system, I allso had to work hard to get it back to positive, mainly due to 2 run ins with Concord. So now I am more carefull in my combat actions. If I dont want to accept the consequences from my actions in gameplay then I will have to reconsider my gameplay. If I dont want to change my gameplay then I will have to accept the consequences.
Nowhere in this game do I have the option to avoid PvP. Those that love it for whatever reason force me into PvP cause they think it's cool. Ever thought about the few that actually dont think it's that cool as you think it is?
Call me a whiner about that or whatever, like some PvPers allready called me in the game, before they then shredded my indy or mining or travel equiped cruiser.
The times a PvP player actually checks if the other one likes to PvP is allmost nihill. So why even expect pity or understanding of those people who are forced out of a big region of space due to gatecampers, roleplayers who live really good into their hunting char but lack the ability to allso accept the fact that what they do is still against the law or whatever.
I know I will get a lot of flames about this responce. But I will give that as much attention as people actually will give to my post here
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.05 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 05/06/2004 15:07:35
If you don't care about the replies then please stop posting here, you're hijacking a legitimate thread with your unwanted commentary on how you like the current system. Please start your own " I hate PvP so should have bought an "massively soloplayer online roleplaying game" thread.
This is a thread about how we want the system changing to allow us to compensate for the negative repurcussions of our actions. I accept my actions have a bad impact on my rating but would not be upset should i work for 2 months and correct the problem. Thats two whole months, not ten minutes, not a week thats eight whole fricking weeks I'd spend to recover.
I don't jump in on the "I'm a miner so ban all Pvp'ers full stop threads", for those ppl i'd simply suggest playing a game that doesn't allow pvp, not trying to subvert the one really good pvp mmorpg out on the market, so please post elsewhere gandry. Thanks for your view but it isn't pertinent to the post.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.06.05 18:11:00 -
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Just as I get told that I have to go look for a nice none PvP game I could reply go look in a game where you can PvP without repurcussions, I am not saying it should be impossible, but allso not easy like bribing some Concord agents or something like that, let CCP bring in certain agents in 0.0 space for whom you have to do peace missions or where you get missions to do just the opposite of that from what you got your negative status, And my post here is as legitimate as any other reply, just because I dont agree with you guys doesnt make my opinion less. If you dont like my posts then dont reply, simple as that. But as much as I leave you to reply in any form you like to do, I expect that others will atleast leave me to my posts aswell
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.06 01:03:00 -
[76]
But this is the problem Gandry, it currently is Impossible to fix things, I wouldn't mind if I knew two or three months would fix it but the amount of work needed to change ratings is currently close to the kind of effort needed to raise the titanic.
Hence this post is from people effected by the problem, directed at CCP. It wasn't intended to be a general discussion between pilots on how they like/dislike the system. I'm not suggesting you aren't entitled to reply I am just suggesting it detracts from the overall point of this one thread and there are multiple other discussion threads re sec status.
Come on CCP, this is getting silly, give us an answer please.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.07 18:16:00 -
[77]
Interesting to see that there's not even a mention of a sec system change in Shiva. It looks more and more like CCP are wanting us to be stuck with neg ratings , thr4 banned from empire and story events.
Oh well, might be interesting getting to minus ten if CCP are so happy to force us down that route through their sheer ignorance
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.10 16:38:00 -
[78]
This post topic won't die just cause you choose to ignore it TomB. So yet again I implore you, please read, digest and answer the questions raised within.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.11 13:08:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Siddy on 11/06/2004 13:09:41
TomB ... anyone ... Please ... note this post ....
Last despairet attempt to atenttion w.hore ^^
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Telk Behm'shai
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Posted - 2004.06.11 13:23:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Telk Behm'shai on 11/06/2004 13:27:02
Originally by: Siddy
Edited by: Siddy on 30/04/2004 13:29:04
at this rate i whuld get acsessable sec to get in 1.0 somewere at 2007 .....
Ofcorse - if CCP dont want me to behave... i can go back and start killing right away ....
Just like a pirate to give up so quickly. J/K GL going straight. Hope it sticks.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.06.11 14:02:00 -
[81]
Come on CCP ....
I want to suck Roids in 1.0 space ...... Is there actually anything >0.5 space ... its been so long ....
Joking apart YOU .... YES YOU CCP need to fix this .... for both Pirates and Pirate Hunters.
Mongo speaks !!
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.11 16:48:00 -
[82]
Yep CCP please look at this for the next patch.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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gallentia
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Posted - 2004.06.12 06:09:00 -
[83]
HEY SIDDY OLD BUDDY :))))
I agree with you guys, the sec rating system suck atm.
I got my neg sec rating due to helping some or my RL friends whil they mined in 0.4 when i was at -1.0 i tried to raise but like siddy said it just takes too much time to raie the sec rating, so then i had 2 options 1. QUIT eve all together (although currently they pi**ed me off one to many times due to some other issues where their reply was that just cause they couldnt see the problem it simply didt exist) or 2. join a pirate corp and continue to do what i love most, do PvP (since rolepalying part was lost with the loss of my positive rating)i chose option 2 (for the time being untill CCP scr**es something else and i quit this game all together) currently im -6.9 and with no way of getting the sec rating up i will do the next best thing get it down to -10.0 just for the sake of it.
 CCP i think its time you answered our "little" problem here as it is one of the most important problems i have encountered in this game.
"Let's kick their ass and get the Hell out of here."
--- General George Armstrong Custer
"The supreme act of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting"
--- Sun Tzu
"Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right."
--- Henry Ford
"There is no security in life, only opportunity."
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.06.16 23:15:00 -
[84]
Ok I understand that CCP have been really busy with the patch for last two days and will be for a while so I'll just keep this topic current so that when TomB deigns to answer his customers question that they've been semi impatiently waiting for for months now (paying customers expecting answers? LMAO fools.) it'll be here waiting for him.
And if any other GM or member knows Tomb please point him or any relevant dev in this direction if they have anything to do with the awful sec system as it is or as it may be in future.
Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio? |
Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2004.06.16 23:28:00 -
[85]
I would also like to place a post here to show my hatered to the current Security rateing system.
Here it is
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Sm0kE
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Posted - 2004.06.17 00:29:00 -
[86]
maybe ppl can pay to get better sec status :]
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.17 17:53:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Sm0kE
maybe ppl can pay to get better sec status :]
good ol times eh?
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.06.23 17:27:00 -
[88]
Bumpage
comoon CCP .. anwser!
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.06.23 18:16:00 -
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I suggest you sign up for CSM chat or write a well argumented thread in Idea Lab. For now, I will look this thread because it's full of nonsense and has been bumped numerous times.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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