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The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.15 15:19:00 - [31] Edited by: The PitBoss on 15/05/2008 15:20:20 Originally by: Kodell ... small gang tactics ... ::SNIP:: ROFL ... you've obviously never fought IVY Thanks, PB Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox
The Hooch Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.15 17:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Crotador Now all you can do is wardec noobs like E-uni... and STILL get your asses kicked Your lack of information is stunning... As to the dec of Ivy, for many months we ignored them being on many KM's from their running with lowsec and .0 alliances. We warned them, even spoke to them about it... nicely. I turned down contracts on them and still they did it. After the last warning thier "former" leader even sent me mails saying how they would "shut us down". Well that was just to good to pass up and we are still waiting to be shut down. Hooch, re-defining the concept of a jerk Concord punishes people, it does not protect them
Viqtoria Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.05.15 18:21:00 - [33] Edited by: Viqtoria on 15/05/2008 18:22:05 Originally by: The Hooch Originally by: Crotador Now all you can do is wardec noobs like E-uni... and STILL get your asses kicked Your lack of information is stunning... As to the dec of Ivy, for many months we ignored them being on many KM's from their running with lowsec and .0 alliances. We warned them, even spoke to them about it... nicely. I turned down contracts on them and still they did it. After the last warning thier "former" leader even sent me mails saying how they would "shut us down". Well that was just to good to pass up and we are still waiting to be shut down. Hooch, re-defining the concept of a jerk whilst you are defining that concept you should get one of your spies in eve uni to suicide in a faction BS badly fitted with officer modules to boost your morale/efficiency or sumfing. oh wait :P ps hit me up ingame o/ oh yeh i will grant that you spank the uni in small gangs, i'm not trolling.
Morning Maniac Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.05.15 18:39:00 - [34] Originally by: The Hooch After the last warning thier "former" leader even sent me mails saying how they would "shut us down". Well that was just to good to pass up and we are still waiting to be shut down. Hooch, re-defining the concept of a jerk[/quote I was and still am the leader and I never mailed you. It's within game mechanics to wardec us, why make up bogus excuses? Perhaps one of your guys did get killed by one of us at some point in low sec, that's why it's low sec. I bet there are hundreds of corps and alliances who have attacked your members in low sec at one point or another, do you wardec them for months as well? MM http://eve-ivy.com EVE University commercial
Aberash eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.05.15 18:48:00 - [35] The Nerf sucked ass, used to enjoy fighting you folks, most fun ive had in empire guess the carebears were sick of not being able to haul afk .:Abe's GFX Shack!:.
The Hooch Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.15 19:51:00 - [36] Originally by: Morning Maniac Originally by: The Hooch After the last warning thier "former" leader even sent me mails saying how they would "shut us down". Well that was just to good to pass up and we are still waiting to be shut down. Hooch, re-defining the concept of a jerk[/quote I was and still am the leader and I never mailed you. It's within game mechanics to wardec us, why make up bogus excuses? Perhaps one of your guys did get killed by one of us at some point in low sec, that's why it's low sec. I bet there are hundreds of corps and alliances who have attacked your members in low sec at one point or another, do you wardec them for months as well? MM Ahh, another voice. Well, your "former diplomate" then. Perhaps you should have lead in this area as opposed to having someone else get thier hands dirty for you. As far as lowsec goes feel free, by all means then join in the dance. Just don't whine when the band wants paid. As I told your former diplomate. It was 1 billion to avoid the war to begin with, after that 2 billion and a BPO of our choosing. (gads I love extorsion and blackmail, the best part of Eve) I wonder if your members even knew there was a way to avoid all of this? Hooch, good man gone all bad Concord punishes people, it does not protect them
The Hooch Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.15 19:56:00 - [37] Edited by: The Hooch on 15/05/2008 19:56:19 Just as a side note. We are planning a celebration soon with at least 10 war decs and more if the isk is right. I am open for suggestions as to who the lucky first 10 should be. We will be taking contracts during this time, the cost will be just the fee of the war dec at the time requested. Hooch Concord punishes people, it does not protect them
isAzmodeus The Seven	Posted - 2008.05.15 20:25:00 - [38] Does anyone even care what the privateers are doing? 0.0 alliances don't even think about them, and noob/industrial corps don't have much forum/military/political power. --------------------------------- The Seven- Blowing up someone near you.
Viqtoria Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.05.15 20:49:00 - [39] Edited by: Viqtoria on 15/05/2008 20:49:34 Originally by: The Hooch Originally by: Morning Maniac Originally by: The Hooch After the last warning thier "former" leader even sent me mails saying how they would "shut us down". Well that was just to good to pass up and we are still waiting to be shut down. Hooch, re-defining the concept of a jerk[/quote I was and still am the leader and I never mailed you. It's within game mechanics to wardec us, why make up bogus excuses? Perhaps one of your guys did get killed by one of us at some point in low sec, that's why it's low sec. I bet there are hundreds of corps and alliances who have attacked your members in low sec at one point or another, do you wardec them for months as well? MM Ahh, another voice. Well, your "former diplomate" then. Perhaps you should have lead in this area as opposed to having someone else get thier hands dirty for you. As far as lowsec goes feel free, by all means then join in the dance. Just don't whine when the band wants paid. As I told your former diplomate. It was 1 billion to avoid the war to begin with, after that 2 billion and a BPO of our choosing. (gads I love extorsion and blackmail, the best part of Eve) I wonder if your members even knew there was a way to avoid all of this? Hooch, good man gone all bad the moment anyone gives into extortion in eve it's game over man! game over!!. Besides, all the peepull who don't want to fight or help others fight have dropped association the uni to get yet more isk anyway by now which is not exactly a bad thing, always were too many people getting rich and blathering about how much isk they made p/h or mining in hulks despite all the warnings, etc, yet never offered any help to the nublings.
The Hooch Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.16 01:19:00 - [40] Originally by: isAzmodeus Does anyone even care what the privateers are doing? 0.0 alliances don't even think about them, and noob/industrial corps don't have much forum/military/political power. I for one hope that they don't, I prefer my targets fat, dumb and afk. Concord punishes people, it does not protect them
Battsecks	Posted - 2008.05.16 01:22:00 - [41] Originally by: The Hooch I for one hope that they don't, I prefer my targets fat, dumb and afk. You called?
Captain Thunk Captain Morgan Society	Posted - 2008.05.16 01:45:00 - [42] Originally by: Kodell Unfortunately i have to admit that Privateer's have lost a great deal of my respect of late, due to there treatment of Eve Uni. I'm all for wars (we are a T2 production corp as you might know ) and i think there great training tools for the new players, they have to learn Empire fleet and small gang tactics sometime and better it be before they move on to another corp. But personally, i do think FIVE weeks (and continiuing) of non-stop war Dec's it taking it beyond the bale, especially considering that they are another unique entity that does a lot for this game. It's not quite 5 weeks straight there has been the odd day off here and there and even a weeks reprieve I think. I did used to respect Ivy and the work they do, however, it is a bit much to claim that it's a "new player" alliance when I'm seeing the same people this week as I did over a year ago when we had a week or two of war. Because of this and other factors, my opinion has diminished of late. Such as 20-30 man gangs that we'd actually happily take on if there wasn't 6 blackbirds and a few scorpions thrown in there (we do take those on, but with unconventional ships and fittings and it's not a full on fight). That said, Ivy form gangs and a few days ago SilentBrick lead his troops to a fight with very little EW, which has restored a little faith. My reasons for enjoying that particular war are that if Eve-University is really teaching new players that to beat a gang of 4-8 you need 20 men with 8 dedicated EW ships to ensure none of the enemy locks anything before christmas then that isn't necessarily a good thing. These players eventually leave the uni and move on into other alliances taking what they've learned with them. Who knows, perhaps a little diplomacy here may reach a conclusion to the satisfaction of both parties. War is and hopefully will remain an important element to this game despite the growing numbers of people who are thinking differently. It's in Eve Uni's interests to teach a wide ranging number of tactics to the students - I cannot speak for my alliance, but I would be happy with a deal with a mutual war with the proviso of guaranteed no-go zones where Students could be left in peace. This would allow the freedom of both worlds and give students an important insight into combat tactics within Empire. It's not like Eve Uni doesn't have competent FCs - I'm only aware of SilentBrick, but he's shown himself to at least have the balls that most alliances lack with a good sense of situational awareness. Something like I've described would allow students to develop under his and others like him wings. Not that I hold out much hope such a thing would ever happen. Thunk
frozenphil GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.16 02:27:00 - [43] Originally by: Kodell Congrats Guys But personally, i do think FIVE weeks (and continiuing) of non-stop war Dec's it taking it beyond the bale, especially considering that they are another unique entity that does a lot for this game. Hit me up in game to join Goonswarm. We're coming up on a day without a single wardec tomorrow, the first day in roughly a year. Empire dwellers will never understand that 0.0 is actually safer than empire by a long shot. Once you move out of empire you'll understand just how worthless wardecs, and the corps who actually pay money to wardec other corps, actually are.
Cronker Waltite Heartbreakers Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.16 02:38:00 - [44] Glad you guys stuck it to the man and stayed alive.
Stockarian Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.05.16 02:40:00 - [45] Nerfs suck, you guys take from the rich and give to yourselves...I like that. Keep up the good work. Stock
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:05:00 - [46] Edited by: Kuolematon on 16/05/2008 06:05:34 What is this "Privateers Alliance" you speak of? I have never heard of this Ps. Nice to see you'r still kickin' Hoochie-Moochie "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Morning Maniac Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:30:00 - [47] Edited by: Morning Maniac on 16/05/2008 06:31:55 Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Kodell Unfortunately i have to admit that Privateer's have lost a great deal of my respect of late, due to there treatment of Eve Uni. I'm all for wars (we are a T2 production corp as you might know ) and i think there great training tools for the new players, they have to learn Empire fleet and small gang tactics sometime and better it be before they move on to another corp. But personally, i do think FIVE weeks (and continiuing) of non-stop war Dec's it taking it beyond the bale, especially considering that they are another unique entity that does a lot for this game. It's not quite 5 weeks straight there has been the odd day off here and there and even a weeks reprieve I think. I did used to respect Ivy and the work they do, however, it is a bit much to claim that it's a "new player" alliance when I'm seeing the same people this week as I did over a year ago when we had a week or two of war. Because of this and other factors, my opinion has diminished of late. Who knows, perhaps a little diplomacy here may reach a conclusion to the satisfaction of both parties. War is and hopefully will remain an important element to this game despite the growing numbers of people who are thinking differently. It's in Eve Uni's interests to teach a wide ranging number of tactics to the students - I cannot speak for my alliance, but I would be happy with a deal with a mutual war with the proviso of guaranteed no-go zones where Students could be left in peace. This would allow the freedom of both worlds and give students an important insight into combat tactics within Empire. Thunk Note: I deleted parts of the quote, scroll up for the rest of it. Always nice to be judged by someone who knows very little about us. Your diplomat has proven that it's pointless to talk to him because any deals or promises are worthless. As someone else already pointed out, giving in to extortion is not an option. Privateers are just one of many corps to wardec us on a regular base, paying you off, even if you could be trusted, would make the list even longer. Besides, it's against our principles to pay. At times of prolongued war(s) most of the newer pilots leave because it becomes impossible for them to play the game. We actually encourage anyone who doesn't feel ready to fight to leave. Because over the last year we've been at war more then at peace you see mostly the same faces of the long time core players of the uni like teachers and directors. Once again, I don't dispute the right of anyone to wardec us. There's always some corp or alliance looking to make a name or to boost it's recruiting drive. Wardeccing us seems to be the vehicle of choice of many. I suppose this is the flip side of our success and well known name. You dec us -> you get flamed by our fans -> people who play the game to annoy others join you corp. Good strategy, I hope it's working for you. MM http://eve-ivy.com EVE University commercial
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.05.16 06:48:00 - [48] hehe i like the privateer style.. gratz for adapting! www.garia.net
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.16 12:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Morning Maniac Your diplomat has proven that it's pointless to talk to him ... We have a diplomat ?? Hooch must have that SOCK PUPPET out again ... Originally by: Kelduum Revaan 2008.04.05 09:51 You have substantially fewer members than you had last time we shut you down, and we have 1500 new players hungry for targets (TRAPS have been hiding), and people donating ships, modules and ISK from all over. We both know you cant win - all this will end up doing is seriously damaging PRVTRs ability to gank ships and earn ISK for wars. Well, I hope you are getting well paid for it... -- Kelduum Revaan Diplomatic Director Eve University <IVY> If YOUR diplomat wasn't such a turd ... I'm SURE this would have been over LONG AGO ... Thanks, PB Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox
Captain Thunk Captain Morgan Society	Posted - 2008.05.16 16:06:00 - [50] Originally by: Morning Maniac You dec us -> you get flamed by our fans -> people who play the game to annoy others join you corp. Good strategy, I hope it's working for you. MM It seems to encourage small pvp corps to wardec privateers, which suits me fine. If Eve-University's stance on PvP is to teach to avoid it then perhaps it would better if Privateers keeps the war running as it would disuade new players vaguely interested in PvP from ever signing upto the university programme. Would seem the only things on the Uni syllabus this year is mining and missioning - not actually sure if people need that much tuition in that. Thunk
Nexa Neci5 THE REALLY AWESOME PLAYERS.	Posted - 2008.05.16 18:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Morning Maniac Edited by: Morning Maniac on 16/05/2008 06:31:55 Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Kodell Unfortunately i have to admit that Privateer's have lost a great deal of my respect of late, due to there treatment of Eve Uni. I'm all for wars (we are a T2 production corp as you might know ) and i think there great training tools for the new players, they have to learn Empire fleet and small gang tactics sometime and better it be before they move on to another corp. But personally, i do think FIVE weeks (and continiuing) of non-stop war Dec's it taking it beyond the bale, especially considering that they are another unique entity that does a lot for this game. It's not quite 5 weeks straight there has been the odd day off here and there and even a weeks reprieve I think. I did used to respect Ivy and the work they do, however, it is a bit much to claim that it's a "new player" alliance when I'm seeing the same people this week as I did over a year ago when we had a week or two of war. Because of this and other factors, my opinion has diminished of late. Who knows, perhaps a little diplomacy here may reach a conclusion to the satisfaction of both parties. War is and hopefully will remain an important element to this game despite the growing numbers of people who are thinking differently. It's in Eve Uni's interests to teach a wide ranging number of tactics to the students - I cannot speak for my alliance, but I would be happy with a deal with a mutual war with the proviso of guaranteed no-go zones where Students could be left in peace. This would allow the freedom of both worlds and give students an important insight into combat tactics within Empire. Thunk Note: I deleted parts of the quote, scroll up for the rest of it. Always nice to be judged by someone who knows very little about us. Your diplomat has proven that it's pointless to talk to him because any deals or promises are worthless. As someone else already pointed out, giving in to extortion is not an option. Privateers are just one of many corps to wardec us on a regular base, paying you off, even if you could be trusted, would make the list even longer. Besides, it's against our principles to pay. At times of prolongued war(s) most of the newer pilots leave because it becomes impossible for them to play the game. We actually encourage anyone who doesn't feel ready to fight to leave. Because over the last year we've been at war more then at peace you see mostly the same faces of the long time core players of the uni like teachers and directors. Once again, I don't dispute the right of anyone to wardec us. There's always some corp or alliance looking to make a name or to boost it's recruiting drive. Wardeccing us seems to be the vehicle of choice of many. I suppose this is the flip side of our success and well known name. You dec us -> you get flamed by our fans -> people who play the game to annoy others join you corp. Good strategy, I hope it's working for you. MM FAIL

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