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Whiskette The Scope	Posted - 2008.05.17 00:41:00 - [31] weird, i didn't know market orders worked that way either. good to know!!!
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.05.17 01:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Ralumos Originally by: Kaaii Edited by: Kaaii on 15/05/2008 23:10:42 Thinking like this is why we now own "your" region...... Oh, its cause I didn't know a minute detail about market orders? I was under the impression it was because you had spies on our TS and dropped a Titan on our fleet, in our shields, while you knew we were AFK. Good to know tinfoil much? Also, I like our new region better anyways. welp, now *you have to*, don't cha' According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
V Mining	Posted - 2008.05.17 09:07:00 - [33] Well Ralumos, I didn't know that either and I've been playing from launch on and off so yeah. The only time I buy higher sell orders, is if they're in a different station / system and I can't be bothered to move them, or as a few posters have said, bulk purchases that can't be filled with lots of little tiny ones (which on the whole are scattered through out-of-the-way systems). Ignore the ones who came on to throw a few sarcastic comments. THey may find it amusing that you made such a mistake. I find it amusing that they have nothing more meaningful to fill their lives or time.
Lord Fitz Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.17 11:14:00 - [34] Actually what's really interesting to see is the people that put up sell orders for skillbooks in the same station as NPC sell orders for far more than the NPC price, blisfully unaware that they've just paid a huge brokerage for something that is impossible to sell :o
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.05.17 13:53:00 - [35] Originally by: Kaaii Thinking like this is why we now own "your" region...... Well it sure wasn't anything you've done. You haven't killed a ship since October 2007. So you're not just unhelpful, insulting, immature and unfunny. You're delusional and a parasite on your own alliance as well. slow clap
Divad Ginleek Gallente Gateway Industries House of Mercury	Posted - 2008.05.17 16:09:00 - [36] This inspires an exploitive tactic to milk the market dogooders out of more money... hehehe. ::insert witty signature here::
People Eater Brute Strength THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.17 16:43:00 - [37] I did the same exact thing for the same reasons. Glad to finally find out I was wasting my time... Not really I wish I could go back to being ignorant
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.18 01:25:00 - [38] Hehe, I realized this a bit back. I was allways trying to buy from the lowest stack if I could. Thinking that would help both sellers (the one getting rid of his products and the one with the huge stack getting less undercuts) It's a ******* shame we cant buy from the one we want too.
Suboran Gallente Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.18 01:54:00 - [39] Originally by: RaTTuS I really hate undercutters who do it by 1000's rathter than .01 hell yeah price stability is far better, why complain about people undercutting by the 0.01's and not the 1000's
Gewurtztraminer	Posted - 2008.05.18 11:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Won Swunglow I love it when this happens, once I got paid 89mill for a thousand Gremlin Javlin missiles... Ya gotta love the Irony I think my best was a dude who paid 670 mil for a guristas palladium tag. Which was for sale for 70k. That was a good week.
Taila Nhrodda Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.05.18 12:20:00 - [41] Quote: hell yeah price stability is far better, why complain about people undercutting by the 0.01's and not the 1000's I find it even funnier when 0.01 isk undercutters complain about people "crashing the market" by 1000s, and yet will willingly drop their price by 1000.01 isk. Nobody forces you to follow suit. But, that's what you get for trying to persistently undercut someone trying to liquidate stock.
Valixithor Caldari	Posted - 2008.05.18 13:16:00 - [42] They could always invoke a time clause on sell orders. I.E Once you've placed your sell order on the market, it will be instantly available to the consumer. However, due to the amount of paperwork, beaucracy and other annoying details, it will be impossible to remove the sell order or change it's price for another 48 hours. Originally by: Yoravian If by 'you guys are pretty nasty' you mean 'you guys are sure good at explaining game mechanics to guys like me', then yes. Yes we are.
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2008.05.18 13:29:00 - [43] People like this are the best.
Taila Nhrodda Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.05.18 13:39:00 - [44] Originally by: Valixithor They could always invoke a time clause on sell orders. I.E Once you've placed your sell order on the market, it will be instantly available to the consumer. However, due to the amount of paperwork, beaucracy and other annoying details, it will be impossible to remove the sell order or change it's price for another 48 hours. They already have a time clause, it's 2 minutes. Doing what you said would remove the ability to do Daytrading. What would be better would be partial reapplication of taxes on order modifications. Depending on your circumstances and margins you could make 20 to 100 modifications to your orders before busting a loss, which is still pretty reasonable imo. Plus it helps cut down the effect of OCR market monitoring software by forcing them to suffer losses if they choose to undercut every single person making changes on the market.
Halada Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture	Posted - 2008.05.18 18:03:00 - [45] Originally by: Tiirae Originally by: Kaaii Thinking like this is why we now own "your" region...... Well it sure wasn't anything you've done. You haven't killed a ship since October 2007. So you're not just unhelpful, insulting, immature and unfunny. You're delusional and a parasite on your own alliance as well. slow clap Can you say PWNED? LMAO Click on my sig to read it !
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.05.19 02:11:00 - [46] "I quit killing ships when i learned I could do far more damage with my wallet then a gun......" According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Warrio Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.19 03:09:00 - [47] Post in epic thread. Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain
Durente Galaica Amarr Fortunate Few	Posted - 2008.05.19 04:05:00 - [48] Do not feel bad OP, nearly everyone does this as a noob I remember back in '04 I would "punish" those who placed items in the same stations that the npc's already had supplied. There were many stations without any items at all and I was angry about it. I also sold my mission loot for 1 isk and trashed items that no one was buying (no idea you could refine things). Oh the joys.
Wieting Foyu Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.05.19 11:40:00 - [49] Please no more info... It is always better to pay more for an item than the lowest price. Anyone that tells you different is trying to ruin the market. Pay the highest price and the person selling it at the lower price will give up. That is the real reason his order is no longer there. He leaves feeling unloved. Wieting Foyu Foyu Investments
Lord Fitz Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 15:08:00 - [50] Edited by: Lord Fitz on 19/05/2008 15:09:14 Originally by: Valixithor They could always invoke a time clause on sell orders. I.E Once you've placed your sell order on the market, it will be instantly available to the consumer. However, due to the amount of paperwork, beaucracy and other annoying details, it will be impossible to remove the sell order or change it's price for another 48 hours. I have several thousand orders available to me, I'd just split up the order into smaller parcels and keep undercutting, the only result would be more market lag as it dealt with a hundred times as many orders. Anyone who got their order wrong too wouldn't be able to cancel :o Quote: They already have a time clause, it's 2 minutes. It's actually 5, and this already sees me juggling 3 orders for some items.
Mistress Kaylin Caldari Liberty Investments and Manufacturing	Posted - 2008.05.19 18:31:00 - [51] I love customers like you. It's like the "bank errors in your favor" card in Monopoly. As for the .01 isk under cutters. They don't bother me one bit. I like a good healthy market competition. What irritates me is the 1000 isk or the 100,000 isk per unit under cutters.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.05.19 20:04:00 - [52] Originally by: Mistress Kaylin I love customers like you. It's like the "bank errors in your favor" card in Monopoly. As for the .01 isk under cutters. They don't bother me one bit. I like a good healthy market competition. What irritates me is the 1000 isk or the 100,000 isk per unit under cutters. You would surely hate me....
Ralumos Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.20 03:22:00 - [53] Ironically, I just sold a few million Tritanium for 3.60 when my order was up for 3.50.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Ralumos Ironically, I just sold a few million Tritanium for 3.60 when my order was up for 3.50. Wouldn't a corp contract been more efficient? According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Saladin Minmatar Eternity INC.	Posted - 2008.05.20 17:34:00 - [55] If all the orders are a fraction of an isk from each other I usually go with the volume that fills my needs. I think I would go insane if I had to buy the 10,000,000 fernite carbide I need for a jump freighter over 10-15 orders.
Tradkil	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:45:00 - [56] My question is what happens when I set my sell order at the same price as a market competitor? I have done this before for high volume goods as they have always moved, but I have wondered what would happen on slower moving items. How does the market pick between two sell orders at the same price?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.05.20 21:59:00 - [57] I think the rule for that one is the older of the two. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.20 22:47:00 - [58] Edited by: Venkul Mul on 20/05/2008 22:47:28 Originally by: Tradkil My question is what happens when I set my sell order at the same price as a market competitor? I have done this before for high volume goods as they have always moved, but I have wondered what would happen on slower moving items. How does the market pick between two sell orders at the same price? The first to sell is the one with less time to completion. I.e. you sell at 90 days and my order has 89 days, 23 hours remaining, same price, I sell before you.
mishkof Caldari Finis Lumen Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.21 00:36:00 - [59] Originally by: Kaaii "I quit killing ships when i learned I could do far more damage with my wallet then a gun......" Please get back under the skirt. I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response. []hate me []troll me []smack me
Wieting Foyu Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.05.21 02:02:00 - [60] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Mistress Kaylin I love customers like you. It's like the "bank errors in your favor" card in Monopoly. As for the .01 isk under cutters. They don't bother me one bit. I like a good healthy market competition. What irritates me is the 1000 isk or the 100,000 isk per unit under cutters. You would surely hate me.... And me.. I don't see why my 190m item is under cut the whole .000001%. If you need the 100k that much you really shouldn't be trading.

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