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Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 999	Posted - 2012.03.05 10:24:00 - [1] - Quote Before you start playing, you should be aware that EVE is a very deep game technically and socially. In terms of the technical side of EVE, you'll find a wealth of information in the EVElopedia and through a morass of third party web sites. To make life easier for the new player, I've managed to cull down the "essential" starting documentation into a handful of links. In order to get started in EVE with the minimal amount of background preparation, I advise you to check out the following videos on YouTube and take the "personality test" on the EVE Online website: 10 things to know about EVE before you start playing[1] CDIA Files Orientation Video[2] Personality Test[3] The personality test is only a few questions, intended to help you focus on one aspect of gameplay. It will recommend a "persona" type such as Pirate, Miner, etc, which you can talk about through in game channels and seek advice. You are not restricted to one style of gameplay, the persona type is just a cheesy guide to act as a set of training wheels through the new player experience. Later on you will discard the "personality type" training wheels and use St Mio's "What to do in EVE Online[4]" as a guide, it is an awesome reminder of what activities are available in this wide wonderful universe. When you start, I highly recommend going through the tutorials. You'll be guided through the initial tutorial by the in game assistant called "Aura". Once Aura has finished with you, she'll recommend you head off to some Career Advancement Agents. If you get stuck on a particular mission while working through those career advancement missions, you might find solace in the "How to Survive EVE Online[5]" walkthroughs. Along with the tutorials, have a look at the new player guide starting with the article "Your First Days In Space[6]". If you're interested in lore, make sure you check out Mark726's EVE Online Lore Guide[7] over on Freebooted blog (have a read even if you're not usually interested in the backstory of MMOs). As far as subscribing goes, you have the option of paying using a credit card or WebMoney through the Account Management section of the EVE Online web site[8]. Although PayPal is accepted, I would advise against using it. The best option is credit/debit card. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0M7jkv3xkQ [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI4VkO6qr0U [3] http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/personality-analysis/ [4] http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ [5] http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9A647F3121DFC21 [6] http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Your_first_days_in_space [7] http://freebooted.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/eve-online-greatest-story-still-being.html [8] https://secure.eveonline.com/AddGametime/
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Side Effect. 135	Posted - 2012.03.05 10:33:00 - [2] - Quote Good post, but you missed 1 site in it. www.isktheguide.com Free downloadable PDF file. 700 pages of almost every single thing in EVE explained. Great guide to have on your desktop of laptop just to read if you are stuck or want to find out what a certain 'profession' or mechanic means. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1000	Posted - 2012.03.05 10:59:00 - [3] - Quote ISK The Guide is what Gallente parents use to scare their children when they are misbehaving. The Amarr have the Ashimmu, the Gallente have "the huge indigestible PDF of brain mastication" :) ISK The Guide is linked in the series of EVElopedia articles starting with "Your First Days in Space", so I figure the people who are curious enough to actually follow that trail will end up picking that book up. Otherwise they'll eventually encounter it when they're ready for some seriously heavy reading. But I see the benefit in getting people to download it ahead of actually being pointed to useful parts of the book to read it. Pity the PDF is not easy to navigate :\ I'd love to have an ePub version of that document (which would mean that it could be annotated, for example), and ideally it would be usable on a Kobo.
Xerces Ynx Unseen Academy The Unseen Company 31	Posted - 2012.03.05 11:29:00 - [4] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: I'd love to have an ePub version of that document (which would mean that it could be annotated, for example), and ideally it would be usable on a Kobo. I recommend a good PDF reader for that. Since you can't open PDF files in-game and playing on fullscreen makes switching apps annoying, I have The ISK Guide on my phone. Using 3rd party PDF reader I can annotate, bookmark, mark text and do few other things. Reading still can be diffucult though. Too many unrelevant (but nice looking) pictures and wierd column divisions in some places... Error reading signature file: /home/xerces/.signature: No such file or directory
Keno Skir 93	Posted - 2012.03.05 11:47:00 - [5] - Quote Set google as your in-game browser homepage and ask it anything you dont know in this format "eve online (what are armor hardeners / what is that red flashy thing on my overview / why is there a greasy smear on that warpgate where my ship used to be?)" Secondly my advice to all new players would be to fly with people as much as possible even if you make less money doing so. Flying solo is good and all, but seriously its a multiplayer game and you are robbing yourself of the most valuable training tool in the game if you don't join up with other people. Any new players feeling a little lost, i invite you to contact me in-game and we'll find a way to get you into a fleet at least for an hour or so, secondly me and my guys will be happy to assist you with any game related info you may need. Just because this is EvE, no there will be no cost and no i don't want ur stuff :D I like your new player startup stuff Mara, and will be directing new pilots i come across to read it. +1 The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why?
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1001	Posted - 2012.03.05 11:58:00 - [6] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Set google as your in-game browser homepage and ask it anything you dont know in this format "eve online armour tanking" Excellent advice!
Mark726 Project Compass Holdings 55	Posted - 2012.03.05 16:08:00 - [7] - Quote An excellent collection of advice for any players looking to get into the game. I'd also highly recommend dropping by Help Chat after Rookie disappears if you have any particular questions. I'm in there quite a bit and the people are generally very helpful (and if your question gets swallowed by the pacing of the chat, don't be afraid to re-ask a few times!) and some of the smartest people I know when it comes to game mechanics. Many thanks to Mara for the shoutout as well with the Lore Guide. It's a longer one, totaling about 20,000, so I've taken the liberty of attaching the table of contents here for anyone who'd like to delve into a specific spot of the lore (though, perhaps self-servingly, I really do recommend reading the entire thing to get a handle on the backstory): 1. GÇ£EVE Online: The Greatest Story Still Being ToldGÇ¥ (foreword by Seismic Stan) 2. An Introduction 3. The Empires The Amarr Empire The Minmatar Republic The Gallente Federation The Caldari State CONCORD 4. The Frontier Organizations Ammatar Mandate, Angel Cartel, Blood Raider Covenant, Equilibrium of Mankind, Guristas Intaki Syndicate, Interbus, Khanid Kingdom, MorduGÇÖs Legion, ORE, Rogue Drones SanshaGÇÖs Nation, Serpentis, Sisters of Eve, Society of Conscious Thought 5. Technology & Miscellany Capsules, Cloning, FTL Comms, Stargates, Warp Drive, Vitoc Calendar, Languages, Seyllin/Wormholes, Conclusion I've also put together the full guide in PDF format, either with pictures or without. There's also an ePub version of the guide, linked here (apparently the forum does NOT like me linking directly to it, yeesh). I'm playing EVE and I'm Still Alive Author, EVE Travel Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 626	Posted - 2012.03.05 19:30:00 - [8] - Quote Tagged as favorite. Great thread. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1007	Posted - 2012.03.06 01:34:00 - [9] - Quote Mark726 wrote: An excellent collection of advice for any players looking to get into the game. I'd also highly recommend dropping by Help Chat after Rookie disappears if you have any particular questions. I'm in there quite a bit and the people are generally very helpful (and if your question gets swallowed by the pacing of the chat, don't be afraid to re-ask a few times!) and some of the smartest people I know when it comes to game mechanics. That would be excellent advice for the "first days in space" page. I will see if there's a clean way to get it in there, otherwise I will clutter up the Day 0 advice with it (ICK). Mark726 wrote: Many thanks to Mara for the shoutout as well with the Lore Guide. It's a longer one, totaling about 20,000, so I've taken the liberty of attaching the table of contents here for anyone who'd like to delve into a specific spot of the lore (though, perhaps self-servingly, I really do recommend reading the entire thing to get a handle on the backstory): I will update the link to point to your existing TOC over at http://evetravel.wordpress.com/lore-survival-guide/ Thank you for putting together that awesome lore guide
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1011	Posted - 2012.03.06 21:04:00 - [10] - Quote Added the paragraph about friends: Quote: As you proceed through these tutorial missions, recognise that the most important asset in this game is not skill points, ISK, or what ship you can fly: the most important asset is friends. If you aren't already part of a community outside the game, find a community inside the game by watching Local, saying hello, and getting to know people who play at the same time as you, doing the same kinds of things as you. You will also find other people who share your interests through the forums (just be wary of becoming a forum warrior). Whether you stay in the starter corp until your dying day, or get yourself recruited into a player corporation as soon as possible is up to you (I would recommend staying in the starter corp only as long as it takes for you to find a player corp you like better).
Tom Tsero Aegis Coalition Logistics Dark Legion Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.03.06 22:17:00 - [11] - Quote Great post! Thanks!
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 1251	Posted - 2012.03.11 23:28:00 - [12] - Quote Good thread with great info.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1127	Posted - 2012.03.30 05:44:00 - [13] - Quote The EVElopedia is a maze. See if you can figure out how to get from "Your First Days in Space" to "Golden Rules". LOL.

CCP Sisyphus C C P C C P Alliance 25	Posted - 2012.03.30 08:01:00 - [14] - Quote Love it :)

Caelsora Stealth Assassins 0	Posted - 2012.03.30 11:15:00 - [15] - Quote Good guide. Read it in my first couple days and it helped me tremendously. I'm now about a month into the game and loving it. -Cael
Sasha Khaine Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2012.03.30 12:50:00 - [16] - Quote I too made a guide which covers some of the basics in EVE http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/A_Newcomer%27s_Guide It includes some background information on the story too to kick things off. Welcome to EVE "The entire British empire was founded on cups of tea... and if you think I'm going to war without one, mate. You're sadly mistaken"
Louis deGuerre The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 248	Posted - 2012.03.30 13:18:00 - [17] - Quote Suprise ! A good thread appears ! I've written some guides in my time and am in the process of revamping them. The first one has been released on the new forums: Louis's epic skill guide v1.1. Coming soon in this forum : The revamped Epic Overview Settings. Stay tuned, don't change this channel ! FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 586	Posted - 2012.03.30 13:30:00 - [18] - Quote Nice work! I shall use this thread for my newbies in my NPC corp o7
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 113	Posted - 2012.03.30 13:34:00 - [19] - Quote Nice work :) One line I'd add for new players "If you think in terms of I can't do X untill I have Y, you'll never do anything" Specifically, even a 1 day old character can be usefull in PvP, just dive in
Xercodo Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition 986	Posted - 2012.03.30 14:43:00 - [20] - Quote What the pilot orientation video says is true; if you specialize you can do things just as good as the vets. Every skill tops out at 5 so every time you train one you've now equaled everyone else in the game who has ever trained that skill to 5. You'll find that as you grow older and become a bit of a vet yourself you only gain in real skill, skill and knowledge that you only get from playing the game and doing things. If you stay relatively specialized from the beginning you'll actually top out within a couple years and any years after that would be spent cross training to other races or trying other things. Lots of older players can find themselves still not able to do anything as well as they want to because they spread too thin. 20 million or even 30 million SP isn't as much help when it's spread evenly amongst all the different categories when all you really do is combat. That is to say, don't cut yourself off from trying new things, just keep in mind that "jack all trades, master of none" very much applies here. The Drake is a Lie
Rob Feature Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.30 14:43:00 - [21] - Quote TheBlueMonkey wrote: Nice work :) One line I'd add for new players "If you think in terms of I can't do X untill I have Y, you'll never do anything" Specifically, even a 1 day old character can be usefull in PvP, just dive in This is my third attempt at playing EVE. I played for a couple months in 2008, and then again in 2009. Everytime I play, I feel like I need to get going with a good ISK-making plan. At first I tried mission running, but the monotony got the best of me, so I turned to mining which turned out to be even more boring. I then planned on working towards R&D but realized I needed ISK to get to where I wanted to be. So I completely relate to your statement; I have been thinking in terms of X until I have Y, and as you say, I'm really doing nothing. I have like 6 million SP and not even 1 million ISK. That said, what's the best way for me to "dive in" to PVP? That's ultimately what I want to do anyway, I'm just not sure where to even go to dive in.
Xercodo Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition 986	Posted - 2012.03.30 14:46:00 - [22] - Quote Rob Feature wrote: TheBlueMonkey wrote: Nice work :) One line I'd add for new players "If you think in terms of I can't do X untill I have Y, you'll never do anything" Specifically, even a 1 day old character can be usefull in PvP, just dive in This is my third attempt at playing EVE. I played for a couple months in 2008, and then again in 2009. Everytime I play, I feel like I need to get going with a good ISK-making plan. At first I tried mission running, but the monotony got the best of me, so I turned to mining which turned out to be even more boring. I then planned on working towards R&D but realized I needed ISK to get to where I wanted to be. So I completely relate to your statement; I have been thinking in terms of X until I have Y, and as you say, I'm really doing nothing. I have like 6 million SP and not even 1 million ISK. That said, what's the best way for me to "dive in" to PVP? That's ultimately what I want to do anyway, I'm just not sure where to even go to dive in. Throw a few rifters into low sec (or incursus, tristan, punisher, or merlin) Or maybe try one of the 1v1 frigate fight cans that you see in trade hubs like Amarr, Dodixie, Hek, or Rens.....just keep an eye out fro neutral RR hehe.... The Drake is a Lie
Louis deGuerre The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 248	Posted - 2012.03.30 15:06:00 - [23] - Quote Rob Feature wrote: That said, what's the best way for me to "dive in" to PVP? That's ultimately what I want to do anyway, I'm just not sure where to even go to dive in. 1. Try Red vs Blue 2. Then maybe Faction Wars 3. Then wardec and ransom a highsec corp for laughs 4. Plunder lowsec 5. Learn Russian and conquer all of 0.0 I got 65 M sp but I still sometimes roam in T1 frigates and get kills (and get killed). It can be done and lots of fun. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1
Rob Feature Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.30 15:15:00 - [24] - Quote Louis deGuerre wrote: 5. Learn Russian and conquer all of 0.0 Perhaps I should just jump straight to this. Thanks for the replies!
Louis deGuerre The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 249	Posted - 2012.04.01 23:27:00 - [25] - Quote Shameless self promotion Louis's epic Overview Settings v1.1 is finished. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1
Josie solo State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.02 21:24:00 - [26] - Quote This should be a sticky, it's just what new players need .
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1169	Posted - 2012.04.02 21:42:00 - [27] - Quote This thread is linked from the New Citizens Q&A Resources sticky (via the link to the EVElopedia), and I send the text of the OP to all new players that I bring to the game. Perhaps I'll find the ISK to buy a login screen advert one day :)
O'Sheagada The Graduates RAZOR Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.04.27 00:18:00 - [28] - Quote Thanks for this effort.
Blackhuey Into The Pink 14	Posted - 2012.04.27 03:46:00 - [29] - Quote I'd like to humbly add the Srs Bzns Podcast http://srspodcast.com - the podcast for new players. We're producing again and happy to cover any topics that people request. Cheers @blackhuey \| @srspodcast \| Srs Bzns Podcast: http://srspodcast.com
Lost Greybeard Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution 43	Posted - 2012.04.27 06:18:00 - [30] - Quote Bumpified. Also, worth noting that you can explain 90% of the game to a Pen&Paper RPG player by saying "it uses the White Wolf skill system". Explains approximately 110% of skill-related questions in seven words. The deterministic/random mix is basically Mage: the ascension as well.

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