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Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.22 23:29:00 - [31] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 22/05/2008 18:55:23 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Given the recent escalations and increased support of terrorist elements by supporters of the republic, I must repeat my call for preparedness. There is no proof of Republic support to the terrorists, any more than there has ever been. Did I ever say that there was? But there is certainly proof of support from those in the republic in unprecedented numbers. You have this foolish system called a republic, that makes me worried. Quote: My guess is that the increasing possibility of the Federation being tied up in their own troubles makes some Amarr think an attempt at Reclaiming the Republic might actually have a chance of succeeding. A call for preparedness is indeed a good call. But a true call for peace would be even more welcome. I have made a true call for peace. What you want me to make is a call for the empire to bend over and take it. We have not made an offensive attack on the republic in over a century. The republic, on the other hand, has spent the last century failing in a genocidal attempt to destroy the Ammatar. Meanwhile, even if its leadership does not do so knowingly, the Republic has been supporting the guerilla warfare attacks of the terrorists against the empire. It is your move, if you want peace. We made our gestures of peace decades ago. Destroy the Defiants and cut off their lines of supply that go through republic space. That is the action of a peaceful neighbour. As long as it is republic built ships, and republic trained citizens, using fortunes made in the republic who are attaking Amarr... we cannot speak about demilitarization. Quote: I could also point out that unlike Nachson implies, the question of slavetraders in Republic space is not exactly symmetric to Minmatar terrorists in the Empire. The Republic has repeatedly renounced the terrorist actions and the violence on civilians. I have yet to hear the Empire renounce slavery. We have denounced slave raids upon the republic. Asking more than that would require proof that your intentions were not simply to bide your time while "rogue" fleets of republic origin fight a guirilla war from bases within Matari space and fight a proxy war for the republic. Peace will only come when you learn to mind your own internal affairs and let us mind our own internal affairs. If you demand that we change our internal social structures and culture before we can have peace, you are not acting the peaceful neighbour but rather the interventionist neighbour who is only waiting for the time to strike. We do not ask you to legalize slavery in your own borders. We do ask you to let our laws be our own. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Silas Vitalia Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2008.05.23 00:18:00 - [32] Gaven, fellow Amarr Loyalists, We have refrained from the IGS as of late, preferring to spend out time in meditation on the issues of the last few months.. Recent events have made it abundantly clear, as you have stated, that war drums are beating across New Eden. It is with no small amount of reflection that we hereby publicly decree our solidarity with our Brothers and Sisters in the Empire should any greater conflict engulf the cluster. Although we disagree with the Loyalists on a great number of issues, we feel these can be overlooked in the event of a crisis, and perhaps a new spirit of friendship kindled by this gesture. In this new spirit of cooperation, we encourage any and all Khanid pilots willing to join us to seek us out. We begin today the process of strengthening our militia for the looming possibility of conflict. Your sister in arms, Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Public Comm "KhanidPublic"
Sythra Coratana Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 01:07:00 - [33] Although that may not be your intention Gaven, all you are doing is stirring towards a war, not away from it. Not that it matters, this particular war will start anyway, regardless of what anyone says.
Sepherim Ordo Quaesitoris Magna Ordo	Posted - 2008.05.23 02:10:00 - [34] The simple truth Lord Lok'ri exposed is that we are to keep peace for as long as we can. Of course, in case we are attacked, we will fight with all our might, but until then the Pax Amarria still stands and we are a country of peace. And those are wise words. Ordo Quaesitoris Forum
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.23 04:49:00 - [35] Amarr Victor
Miyamoto Isoruku The Phoenix Mercenaries Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.23 05:01:00 - [36] My Amarr brethren: Will you stand strong with us against the Gallente menace?
Golan Trevize Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.23 07:14:00 - [37] From:TES Hydra Archon class Location:Classified Commander:Adm-Ret Golan Trevize *A VAST HANGAR BUZZING WITH ACTIVITY, NOISE LEVEL IS ALMOST UNBEARABLE, A HIGH RANKING OFFICER IS BEING BREIFED BY A MAN DRESSED IN A FLIGHT SUIT* Sir i report that all wings are at 95% combat effectiveness , our training schedules are complete, save one live fire exercise. Well done CAG ,Engineering informs me that they have solve the power fluctuations in the main capacitor and reactor is performing flawless. The Hydra is ready. *Transmission ends** The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
Archbishop PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.23 09:10:00 - [38] There is only one place for the true faithful of Amarr to stand. In defense of our way of life and in support of our true God against the sin and corruption rampant in the lessor Empires. The crimes of recent weeks by the Gallente only serve to remind us of our duty against evil. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Drakolus Dopehead Industries FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.05.23 15:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Archbishop There is only one place for the true faithful of Amarr to stand. In defense of our way of life and in support of our true God against the sin and corruption rampant in the lessor Empires. The crimes of recent weeks by the Gallente only serve to remind us of our duty against evil. Archbishop Archbishop, I am impressed. As one on the side of a fellow god-botherer calling for peace you are all but baying for blood. Your obvious intollerance of all but your own way and your "with us or against us" stance leave no doubt that the calls for peace from the Empire merely serve to hide the sound of the sword being unsheathed. I once again suggest that all those who love freedom prepare for the worst. The darkness of slavery and repression is once again on the rise and the days for peace and diplomacy are quickly fading. Freedom for all, at any cost. Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Arkady Sadik Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 15:50:00 - [40] We have entered peace talks with the Mandate a long time ago. We have taken a strong stance against terrorists operating from our own space, going as far as to terminate former members of the Fleet because of such crimes. And we continue to hunt down criminals, regardless of rank and background. The Republic has done a lot to preserve peace. Claiming otherwise is warmongering. Do not fall for that. If you want peace like we do, stop the threats. Seek peaceful solutions to incidents, and don't make huge incidents of absolute routine. War will help no one. War will not be swift. There will be stagnating frontlines for years and decades to come, frontlines on which millions of both of our people will die, and still there will be nothing achieved for anyone. We want peace. We do not seek war. Never again.
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.23 17:07:00 - [41] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 23/05/2008 17:07:06 Quote: Do not fall for that. If you want peace like we do, stop the threats. Seek peaceful solutions to incidents, and don't make huge incidents of absolute routine. The message I get from EM is that it is only peace if the Republic is given the right to extend Gallente ideals into Amarrian sovereign space. You kill a single commander of the defiants, and that absolves you from finding their bases that are almost certainly in Republic space? The Defiants are in the process of fighting a professionally operated and extremely well equipped guerilla war in Amarrian space from unknown bases. I find myself asking where the funding for that campaign, which has lost many capital ships in the past weeks, is coming from. Where are they retiring to for rest and repair? From where are they getting new crew to replace losses? Why did Karishal stop the U'K from protecting him? It seems quite odd to me that he effectively let himself be killed. It seems even more odd to me that we saw increased support to the Defiants and hostile language from the republic ambassador to CONCORD only a few weeks after one of those involved in the killing of Karishal was put into a high command. So either the republic is mounting a clandestine operation against the Empire with the goal of doing as much damage as possible before they have to defend themselves, or the leadership of the Republic is truely being played for fools by the Defiants and their clandestine supporters who are somehow managing to keep the Defiants fully equipped. Forgive me if neither scenario makes me particularly happy about the future of the Pax Amarria. In one, Midular will attack whenever she believes an opportunity exists. In the other, Midular will be deposed and Shakor or someone like him will attack the empire. The only way to possibly prevent this is to take heed of the old truth that whoever wishes to maintain peace should prepare for war. If Amarr is weak, either the republic's leadership or its people will certainly attack it. The idea that Amarr is weak will urge them on and make the pacifist voices few and far between. The only counter is for Amarr to be so strong that maintaining the peace is the only option for those who consider us "the Enemy." Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Kohiko Sun Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 17:27:00 - [42] You say this... Kohiko motions towards a small window on the display that is replaying part of Gaven's statement. Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri The message I get from EM is that it is only peace if the Republic is given the right to extend Gallente ideals into Amarrian sovereign space. You kill a single commander of the defiants, and that absolves you from finding their bases that are almost certainly in Republic space? Followed by this... Kohiko points to the side again as the replay resumes. Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri The Defiants are in the process of fighting a professionally operated and extremely well equipped guerilla war in Amarrian space from unknown bases. I wonder, how does "almost certainly" suddenly become "unknown"? It seems you undermine your own assertion. This is where I found my sig.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri paranoia If you have information on the locations of the Defiant bases, please let us know. If not, I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself with this pompous warmongering. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Kohiko Sun Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:32:00 - [44] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri We have denounced slave raids upon the republic. Oh! If this is true, denounce your pilot, Laerise. Or, better yet, return those of my crew who are were taken by her and, as she has stated, slaves at her guns. This is where I found my sig.
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:42:00 - [45] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 23/05/2008 18:50:52 There is no contradiction there. They have to be in jump range for their capital ships to be used so effectively. They also have to be bringing in a great deal of new material resources to said base. If they were basing in Amarrian or Ammatar space they would already have been ratted out by someone. So that basically rules out anywhere other than either the Republic or the Federation for their resupply bases. It is entirely possible that the Gallente are playing us all for fools and funding the Defiants, rather than the people of the republic funding the Defiants. But I think Gallente support would have shown its hand by now, to date the known Defiants have been primarily ex-Republic military. As we do not know where in the Republic those bases are, they are still unknown, even if it is almost certain that they are somewhere in republic low security space. It is entirely possible that the government of the Republic also does not know. But a republic is a fickle government, and that the Defiants can mount such heavy operations makes it absolutely clear that someone is using them as a catspaw to test the empire with greater attacks in mind. That kind of firepower does not materialize out of idealism, it materializes out of someones political agenda. I think it says something very interesting that we have republic loyalists trying to turn a call for peace and purely defensive action into an act of warmongering. I call upon Amarrians to restrain themselves, but be prepared for whatever may come, and the EM pilots act as if I am advocating the destruction of their republic immediately and calling for war. Tell me, why is that? Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.23 18:46:00 - [46] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 23/05/2008 18:48:07 Originally by: Kohiko Sun Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri We have denounced slave raids upon the republic. Oh! If this is true, denounce your pilot, Laerise. Or, better yet, return those of my crew who are were taken by her and, as she has stated, slaves at her guns. You attacked the Empire directly. Or, at least, your organization did. We declared legal war in response to your acts of war against the Empire. Slave raids against an entity that started hostilities by directly attacking Amarrian shipping in Amarrian space are an entirely different thing than slave raids against an entity which the empire is at peace with. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Kohiko Sun Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 19:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri You attacked the Empire directly. Or, at least, your organization did. We declared legal war in response to your acts of war against the Empire. Slave raids against an entity that started hostilities by directly attacking Amarrian shipping in Amarrian space are an entirely different thing than slave raids against an entity which the empire is at peace with. We are at peace with the Empire. I have never been to Imperial space, but if I go, your fleet security standings show I have free access and am not deemed a threat by the Empire. Perhaps you confuse your place as a loyalist paramilitary with the real thing. Our war is sanctioned by CONCORD, not the governments of the Empire nor Republic, therefor, I suggest you look into the matter of CONCORD's rules of engagement. I see no place where the active act of enslaving the crew taken from another's ship as being acceptable in these. Or, perhaps we can pursue matters with the Imperial authorities? A supposedly loyal paramilitary taking slaves in Republic space, in contradiction of official policy and treaty, with comms logs and witnesses to support the claim could be quite the problem at this unstable time. This is where I found my sig.
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.23 22:00:00 - [48] If you do not want to be treated as an enemy of the empire, you shouldn't join organizations that have explicitly attacked imperial shipping in imperial space. I suggest that you do some reading. So that you might actually know how your organization started this war. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Kohiko Sun Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.05.23 23:08:00 - [49] I humbly suggest you pull your head from your exhaust port. This is where I found my sig.
Sepherim Ordo Quaesitoris Magna Ordo	Posted - 2008.05.24 01:54:00 - [50] Lord Lok'ri's assumption about the Defiants basing out of Minmatarr space is not an empty one; the Militias that support them work out of Minmatarr space often, and the branch never falls far from the tree. Link Ordo Quaesitoris Forum
Jane Indy	Posted - 2008.05.24 06:48:00 - [51] Wow, last time i saw Lok'ri he was ambushed in amarr in an Omen and now he's a lord? Oh well. I'm staying neutral in this one, got enough 0.0 politics going on already...
Sral TBear Mark Of Chaos	Posted - 2008.05.24 08:03:00 - [52] Another one talking about peace, but atleast one that se that there is a threat. You talk about being ready, but stil the boarders are closed to us who you call outcasts. Im afraid that your werry nice words are just that, one more that talks, because i se no action. I se alot of politicians talk, i hope the commanders of empire ships stil know how to fight instead of talking. All i se is weak people talk. We are the EMPIRE we are the great race, our history is full of storys about great battles, hymns and poetry is written to our fallen heros, and yet, you politicians are holding back talking about deffending. No sir we should not deffend we should attack. We should let loose the empire fleets, attack those who are a threat to us. The only ones that shows they are willing to fight are the ones you wount call home. you say Amarr Victor..... how dare you when you want to hide away behind gates and sentry guns.. With your fine words is should be more "amarr loose" We need to unleesh the great fleet, we need to send out the navy and crush, not have them sitting in there dockyards waiting for the enemy to come... how can so many of you call your selfs loyalists, how can so many call your selfs amarr TBear
Sophia Delacour Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.24 11:34:00 - [53] Edited by: Sophia Delacour on 24/05/2008 11:47:50 Originally by: Sral TBear We need to unleesh the great fleet, we need to send out the navy and crush, not have them sitting in there dockyards waiting for the enemy to come... how can so many of you call your selfs loyalists, how can so many call your selfs amarr TBear So, you would have the Empire on the offensive, would you? Have us spit on the words of the Pax Amarria, and Heideran? No, I think we need to try and keep the peace as long as possible. If the Empire cannot be the light of reason in these dark times, who can? And how sir can you claim to be a loyalist when you condemn the very words of our late emperor?
Sepherim Ordo Quaesitoris Magna Ordo	Posted - 2008.05.24 12:12:00 - [54] Mr TBear, outcasts are so for a reason. Reflect on that next time you meet an Amarr Imperial ship that doesn't allow you to enter Imperial Space. And meditate on that next time you doubt the loyalism and the battles of those who have been defending the Empire since so long, and with so many hardships. Ordo Quaesitoris Forum
Lordus Mark RDK Trusting Holders	Posted - 2008.05.24 12:57:00 - [55] Originally by: Sophia Delacour Edited by: Sophia Delacour on 24/05/2008 11:47:50 Originally by: Sral TBear We need to unleesh the great fleet, we need to send out the navy and crush, not have them sitting in there dockyards waiting for the enemy to come... how can so many of you call your selfs loyalists, how can so many call your selfs amarr TBear So, you would have the Empire on the offensive, would you? Have us spit on the words of the Pax Amarria, and Heideran? No, I think we need to try and keep the peace as long as possible. If the Empire cannot be the light of reason in these dark times, who can? And how sir can you claim to be a loyalist when you condemn the very words of our late emperor? Many have done so. Some more loud than others, but the passive and defensive attitude of the empire in the last years has been an ultrage for many loyal servants of God. Let me ask you: have you any idea why God allowed our late and dear emperor to be killed? Just remember Zaragram, and that the emperor is not God, and Pax Amarria is not Scriptures. ******************************** RDK Trusting Holders** Need a job done? Quietly? Have a word with us.
Ashar KorAzor Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:46:00 - [56] I am heartened to see that those of the Faith, whether of Kingdom, Empire, Mandate, or other outlands may jointly pledge to a defense of our people. May they succeed. May, in these times of instability, we pass both divine tests set before us - that of duty in restraint as well as that of martial capacity. If there is a need to put lives on the line in defense of our own, may we die well. Originally by: Sythra Coratana Not that it matters, this particular war will start anyway, regardless of what anyone says. This is either an affirmation of clairvoyance or a statement of intent from one who has turned back to homeland and bloodline; neither of these are wise.
Sral TBear Mark Of Chaos	Posted - 2008.05.24 19:57:00 - [57] Edited by: Sral TBear on 24/05/2008 19:57:39 Originally by: Sepherim Mr TBear, outcasts are so for a reason. Reflect on that next time you meet an Amarr Imperial ship that doesn't allow you to enter Imperial Space. And meditate on that next time you doubt the loyalism and the battles of those who have been defending the Empire since so long, and with so many hardships. "so here i am, watching the battle begins. Not against our enemys, the fighting have begun within our selfs. Here we have mighty war ships, these ships are ready to fight and die for the empire, and stil they cant set our diffrences. On all fronts, in all systems we have now stopped engaging any amarr ships, we have stopped looting and plundering instead we are flying in what the colonies need. We have tryed, with open eyes to contact those who stand in our way to travel home. They stil se us as we were, they stil close there eyes, why do we even try" here i sit, and sounds like one that is giving up, one who feel that hes people have turned there back on him. Im a lost brother now. But they can keep us out, they can try to silence us and they will fail. The love to the empire dont lie in books or thrones, the love is strong within our hearts. We will fight those who opposes us, even the false loylists and politicians, we simply cant, for the sake of the empire let there words be the ones that are heard, they need to hear the voices from the amarr brothers and sisters, they need to hear..WE WILL NOT BOW DOWN, WE WILL STAND AND FIGHT!!! FOR THE EMPIRE!!
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.25 01:15:00 - [58] The Empire has not called for war. When the Empire calls for war, then war will be what we do. Now, we fight those who attack Amarr and build our defences and prepare for whatever may come. We are Amarr. God is on our side. Time is on our side. We can wait. We can prepare. The last ruling from the Emperors was that we would lead a peaceful reclaiming for the time. We are loyal Amarrians. Until those last rulings from the Emperors are overruled, it will be our duty to follow them. To only attack those who attack us first. Should a new Emperor change the course of the Empire, however, we will follow said Emperor as the Viceroy of God that an Emperor is. But as long as the Empire embarks on a course of armed peace, we will do the same. Your heart may indeed be in the right place. But you gain nothing by going against the will of the Empire and becoming an illegal entity. You gain nothing by insulting those who have defended the empire for years. And, Ms. Indy, I have not been "ambushed" while flying an omen in Amarr... ever. I have engaged against the odds hundreds of times, however, and some of those have gone south. The last few weeks, including when I believe you saw me engaging, I successfully engaged hostile groups of ships repeatedly, despite the odds being against my ship, and destroyed multiple terrorist ships while repeatedly extracting the crew and ship of the TES Hubris intact from the field. I am, in fact, so pleased with the TES Hubris' performance that the name has been enrolled on my list of names that will always stay in commission and her crew has been given multiple combat bonuses for their success. I have even shipped multiple of the longer serving slaves on the Hubris to my estate on Oris, where they are now living a life of luxury for their repeated service to the Empire. I have high hopes for those slaves, and expect that most of their family lines will be those of freedmen in the next generation. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Per Bastet B.O.O.M Socius Tutaminis Velox	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:03:00 - [59] As has been Stated before. BOOM Corp Stands Ready to Produce arms and ships for Amarr Loyal forces, if such a time as war comes by.
Scourge Drakonis Legio Decimus Inc	Posted - 2008.05.26 15:14:00 - [60] *Scourge runs the crew of his battleship 'Exterminatus' through yet another battle drill... Sir, the Ammatar stand ready to defend the Mandate and the Empire. Amarr Victor! "Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the Heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Idiots fights a war on 12 fronts!" -Londo Mallari, Centuari Ambassador

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