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Neoptolomeus
Caldari Aquila Victrix THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.05.16 05:29:00 -
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Kahrek Laume,
I pity you, my friend. To use this kind of poison in your own race to destroy another one. You should know better. You should, for a fact, already learned the lesson. Sadly, you havenŠt.
Today, Admiral Alexander Noir started something he sure has not forseen. Blood will be spllitered in the floor, death and destruction will be the called upon. The so "democracy and freedom" the gallente so much endure upon their beliefs, will just be an excuse to battle.
An excuse, that no matter what reason, justification, explanation you give me, it wonŠt be worth the lives of countless capsuleers.
If itŠs war you want, congratulations. Your federation has achieved such goals. Thanks to them, we shall forgive our future childrens for the future we will give them. Best Regards, Fly Safe, GodSpeed or Happy Hunting, Neoptolomeus |

Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui
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Posted - 2008.05.16 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 16/05/2008 09:28:26
Originally by: Kahrek Laume Since when have logical arguments had any special place in politics?
The extent to which this sentiment is alien to me, and to so many others, is probably hard for you to grasp.
Logical arguments are the absolute foundation of politics and diplomacy. When the galaxy stands on the brink of madness, rational thought and actions are the safety ropes that keep us from falling in.
To hear anybody denounce them so casually is.... chilling. -
Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |

Gervais Zhang
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.05.16 10:04:00 -
[33]
Laume was a madman when we fought his corporation twice last year. Good to see he is consistent.
Any way you cut it, there's nothing praiseworthy in the murder of innocents. While I respect Admiral Noir's distinguished career and share the disgust of many Federation natives at the atrocities commited a century ago, it's absurd to suggest that one crime balances another.
There are those who would argue that I am a warmonger. On the contrary, I'm a realist. War is coming. We in Strix have been saying that for a year. It is a sad commentary on the human condition that it seems inevitable now.
Ironically, Laume does hit on one theme that makes complete sense: if you're a man or woman with wits, you'd best start thinking about what you believe and why, because the time is coming when those beliefs will be put to the test.
Strix is recruiting Federation patriots. |

Tyranis Bolke
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.16 12:08:00 -
[34]
I salute Kahrek's stance, even though his logic may be wrong. It is time to fight.
The Amarr and Caldari would have the Federation for themselves, and Noir has taken actions to help prevent a full on invasion. It is common knowledge that both races have been building up larger warfleets anyway. For what purpose other to to annex Gallente.
Now that the first blow has been struck, we must act and act quickly to take the Caldari by surprise. To disarm them.
As for those professing peace and disgust, how many of you have sold weapons, ships, possibly even traded in illegal goods with pirates? I'd wager that many of you have, and if so you are responsiable for as many deaths as the Admiral. Do not claim to be honest, or nobel, or true, when you yourselves fan the flames of war and hatred. _______________________________________ Comfortably Numb |

Kvirie
Caldari Children of the Wind
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Posted - 2008.05.16 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume Unless you are blind and deaf you might have heard of a recent Gallente victory, it involves a nyx and a station. What you fail to understand in all of this is that the federation is indeed much weaker than it was but it is because of the Caldari parasites that feed off of it that we are in this dire situation, before we all succumb to your industrial machinations we must rise up and cleanse New Eden of your government's filth and corruption, let our differences divides us but let our spirit and love for freedom unite us against the Caladri corporate machine that seeks to enslave us all. We must rise up and crush that which would enslave us before it is too late.
I fail to see how whipping much of the State into a warlike rage is a victory for you, I do agree we've made the Federation weaker, as our breaking free meant you lost out on our superior technology and hard-working people.
I do find the claims of Caldari conquest to be extremely hypocritical though, especially from a Gallente.
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Fox Vulcan
Gallente LYF Naval Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.16 13:48:00 -
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This man is an idiot. Plain and simple. Either Noir was betrayed or setup, or he had eventually gone mad.
Either way, not everyone in the Federation wants a war, and the majority see this as a horrific event. There is so little to gain from a war now. Anyone who wishes to fire upon the man, I would applaud them. Warmongers like him are the ones who will ruin the peace that was so close at hand. ****************************
"For Honour and Glory." |

Kahrek Laume
Gallente Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.05.16 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fox Vulcan This man is an idiot. Plain and simple. Either Noir was betrayed or setup, or he had eventually gone mad.
Either way, not everyone in the Federation wants a war, and the majority see this as a horrific event. There is so little to gain from a war now. Anyone who wishes to fire upon the man, I would applaud them. Warmongers like him are the ones who will ruin the peace that was so close at hand.
Yes, you would applaud them but you seem unwilling to do anything about it yourself, pityful seems like an understatement in your case my dear friend but worry not, braver souls than yourself shall fight when they realize that this war cannot be avoided and they shall keep you safe, maybe not safe from me should your ship cross my path mind you.
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Kahrek Laume
Gallente Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.05.16 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kvirie I fail to see how whipping much of the State into a warlike rage is a victory for you, I do agree we've made the Federation weaker, as our breaking free meant you lost out on our superior technology and hard-working people.
I do find the claims of Caldari conquest to be extremely hypocritical though, especially from a Gallente.
Because the state might now seek war thereby brigning it's eventual downfall that much closer.
Kahrek.
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Fox Vulcan
Gallente LYF Naval Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.16 14:03:00 -
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Laume, you are a discrace to the word 'Gallante'. You are little more than a warmonger, a hate fuelled little welp.
And if I meet you in space, I WILL hold you responsible for your words. You insult everything the Federation stands for. ****************************
"For Honour and Glory." |

Kahrek Laume
Gallente Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.05.16 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Gervais Zhang Laume was a madman when we fought his corporation twice last year. Good to see he is consistent.
Any way you cut it, there's nothing praiseworthy in the murder of innocents. While I respect Admiral Noir's distinguished career and share the disgust of many Federation natives at the atrocities commited a century ago, it's absurd to suggest that one crime balances another.
There are those who would argue that I am a warmonger. On the contrary, I'm a realist. War is coming. We in Strix have been saying that for a year. It is a sad commentary on the human condition that it seems inevitable now.
Ironically, Laume does hit on one theme that makes complete sense: if you're a man or woman with wits, you'd best start thinking about what you believe and why, because the time is coming when those beliefs will be put to the test.
Ahhhh Gervais my good friend while our methods might be opposed i think the eventual results would be the same, this federation needs a little madness we need a burning passion, we need the desire and drive to act and admiral Noir either thru choice or treason is the spark that will start it all.
Hard times are upon us but rejoice for in the end the Caldari shall benefit from being returned to what they should now be, a free people. Their corporations gone and their days of quasi slavery over.
Kahrek Laume.
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Kohiko Sun
Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.16 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume Hard times are upon us but rejoice for in the end the Caldari shall benefit from being returned to what they should now be, a free people.
Ah. My first act with this "freedom" you offer would be to continue doing as I have done all along in service to my family, my corporation, and my people. Or, is my freedom to do this not a freedom you would allow?
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Kahrek Laume
Gallente Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.05.16 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kohiko Sun
Originally by: Kahrek Laume Hard times are upon us but rejoice for in the end the Caldari shall benefit from being returned to what they should now be, a free people.
Ah. My first act with this "freedom" you offer would be to continue doing as I have done all along in service to my family, my corporation, and my people. Or, is my freedom to do this not a freedom you would allow?
Of course you are allowed to chose this path, but my question if what if you chose something totaly different, would your state allow it? Try unionizing your workplace you will make the local news when your body shows up in a river. Because you willingly chose this path does not mean you where free to chose something else. We will free you.
Kahrek Laume.
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Emilly Marelor
Caldari Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.16 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume We will free you.
Like you freed those in Ishukone station HQ? Why thank you very much - with all the scraps of free will I have left and the Caldari soul tormented by pointless hecatomb I tell: leave me alone. I want none of your freedom you gibbering psychopath! You disgrace not only your nation, but deaths and missery of thousands in Malkalen.
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Trent Valtine
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.05.16 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume This hero of the federation has simply taken it upon himself to force us to act.
Your "hero" has possibly thrown us into a war we're not fit to fight, and destroyed a period of peace and prosperity for the nation you pretend to love so much. I'm happy that your kind has been the minority in Gallente politics as of late, but I pray that it lasts and that cooler heads than yours prevail.
We do not need to go to war.
We have no reason to go to war.
Why should we make war on the whole Caldari nation simply because some of their corporations treat their employees poorly? Despite what some fools seem to think, the conditions from the recent Scope expose are not the conditions that all working Caldari face. Though measures should be taken against corporations found guilty of poor treatment of their workers, such as the sanctions against Motsu Fabric, there is no sane reason to attack the Caldari.
To the Caldari captains reading this, please understand that this man's opinion is not representative of anyone in the Federation but his own bigoted self. I know there are others like him, but they are not in the majority. The majority of the people want nothing more than the peace they have been enjoying. I am shaken to the core by these recent events, and my heart and prayers are with the survivors and victims from the Caldari Prime and Malkalen tragedies, but I implore you not to blame the entire Federation for the acts of a handful of bigots and madmen.
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Kahrek Laume
Gallente Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.05.16 18:58:00 -
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The time has come to reveal some rather sensitive information on the Caldari and why exactly i have been calling for the slaughter of the megacorporations who'se vile mind control devices are employed on the masses as demonstrated below.
Caldari War Crimes Year 107
In summary to you all who seriously care about the cause, consequences or eventual outcome of this trivial incident i laugh at the lot of you, war will soon be upon us regardless of any of our views opinions or actions, cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, and you seriously beleived our words here would change anything?
New Eden will suffer it will bleed it will be glorious!
Kahrek Laume.
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Acedias
Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.05.16 19:07:00 -
[46]
 Nice one
o7 greetings old war buddies, how is it going?
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.05.16 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume The time has come to reveal some rather sensitive information on the Caldari and why exactly i have been calling for the slaughter of the megacorporations who'se vile mind control devices are employed on the masses as demonstrated below.
Caldari War Crimes Year 107
You sir, deserve to die.
Ghost Festival is recruiting. |

Fizzy Logic
Gunsmith Cats
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Posted - 2008.05.16 19:10:00 -
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I see your tastes in old Earth music only serve to amplify my opinion of your warmongering insanity.
Thank you Mr. Laume, should the State decide to act, it will be fools like you that will motivate us and drive us to correct such misguided and maladjusted beliefs.
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Fox Vulcan
Gallente LYF Naval Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.16 22:26:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kahrek Laume The time has come to reveal some rather sensitive information on the Caldari and why exactly i have been calling for the slaughter of the megacorporations who'se vile mind control devices are employed on the masses as demonstrated below.
Caldari War Crimes Year 107
In summary to you all who seriously care about the cause, consequences or eventual outcome of this trivial incident i laugh at the lot of you, war will soon be upon us regardless of any of our views opinions or actions, cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, and you seriously beleived our words here would change anything?
New Eden will suffer it will bleed it will be glorious!
Kahrek Laume.
Someone send this bastard to Hell where he belongs! I've had all I can stomach of this!
You are a discrage to the Federation, to your people, your bloodline, to the mother that birthed you and the father that sired you! You are a disgrace to humanity!
Tell the Devil I sent you... ****************************
"For Honour and Glory." |

Arbelia Amarsa
Duchy of Amarsa
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:55:00 -
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The Caldari state run mega-corps work just fine and the people seem to be content enough as well. The meddling of Federation murderous hands will only drive the Caldari people further to resist the Evil advances of the Gallente. The people and slaves of Khanid will support the Caldari completely as well! ----------------------------------------
Duchy of Amarsa Royalty has its perks. |

Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:36:00 -
[51]
It brings me great joy to know that I can kill a person like Kahrek more than once.
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The LT
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.17 18:44:00 -
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The remarks the OP has made give me huge confidence in our chances to win.
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Garion Avarr
Amarr Zero Zero Traders YTMND.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Garion Avarr You are a fool, a fool that blindly plays into the hands of those who wish to manipulate fools into starting a war.
I think you do not know Mr Laume well. That's like calling Mr Shogaatsu a pawn for attending the Sani Sabik games.
Sometimes , you have to make the most out of an opportunity. Who knows , it might become morally right tomorrow.
My misunderstanding, then -- perhaps he is one of the people that is trying to manipulate others into destroying the entire cluster with this ill-concieved war.
Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Garion Avarr If you would spit in the face of that, then you are a fool and a foe to humanity itself.
He didn't display any contempt towards relief workers. In fact , this highlights how the upcoming war is potentially useful - people of opposing factions can get along. Eventually. It's just a matter of sorting governments ; total annihilation is not a given.
Still , I'd say very few amarrians can afford to judge others as "foe to humanity" ...
On the contrary, his call for war disregards the peaceful spirit of unity in which the relief workers have worked in.
I have worked on relief efforts for the majority of the past forty-eight hours, and seen not just people from all four empires work together, but even Sansha supporters, people classed as outlaws by CONCORD, and many others work together, putting aside their differences to save people, their personal safety relying upon those they might be trying to kill if they met in open space, and to hear people call for war -- I find it an insult to the cooperation of the relief efforts. ________________________________ This is not a signature. |

Thorek Ironbrow
Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume Unless you are blind and deaf you might have heard of a recent Gallente victory, it involves a nyx and a station. What you fail to understand in all of this is that the federation is indeed much weaker than it was but it is because of the Caldari parasites that feed off of it that we are in this dire situation, before we all succumb to your industrial machinations we must rise up and cleanse New Eden of your government's filth and corruption, let our differences divides us but let our spirit and love for freedom unite us against the Caladri corporate machine that seeks to enslave us all. We must rise up and crush that which would enslave us before it is too late.
And you realise that Noir only killed 1 important Caldarian, and that he surported Caldari-Gallente relations. He even killed his own people, the Federation Economic Minister Wadis Chene and the entire Gallentean delegation. And all just so that he could kill innocents. You are either delusional or incredibly misguided. _____________________________
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Arimus Darkhart
Caldari Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:48:00 -
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All of us who value life above all else are saddened by what this man, for what ever reasons, has caused to descend upon us. As a Caldari citizen who has had the pleasure to fly and fight alongside a number of honourable pilots from all races I am sickened by what this mad man has done to us all. Friendships forged over years are the way to peace in New Eden, not an onslaught of missiles and lasers - the only winner then will be the grim reaper.
To all sides I urge peace, let us take the actions of Admiral Noir and use them! Build for a peaceful future not one built on the bodies of our enemies. Without turning on each other there are enough threats to our way of life (what ever way you choose to live your life) from pirates and others who respect no law but that of the gun - unite and stand as one against the madness that is descending upon us all.
-- Users are like a virus - each causing a thousand tiny crises until the host finally dies. |

BloodBird
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kahrek Laume Edited by: Kahrek Laume on 15/05/2008 23:25:38 * Type Edit *
Greetings brothers and sisters,
My name is Kahrek Laume to most of you that means nothing to a few it most likely means someone who has killed a loved one of yours but that at this moment in time is of no consequence. I come to you today and ask of you all to embark upon a great crusade, the annihilation of the Caldari Megacorporations.
Today a human tragedy befell us, a human tragedy that shall become the spark to an unstoppable fire that will burn Eden clean of the parasites that are eating away at our very souls. The Caldari state and the megacorporations that run it followed blindly by hordes of mindless drones are tearing at the very values of humanity, you are no longer an individual but a cog in the corporate machine working till the day you break only to be tossed away when they are done with you.
There are many rumors that surround admiral Noir's heroic actions and while none can be confirmed or denied at this point one thing is clear, the impact of this event will be felt long after the details are forgotten, if this was a deliberate act by admiral Noir then i salute him for his bravery and willingness to lay his life down for his convictions. If this was sabotage or treasons by others then he has been made a martyr. War will be upon us soon make no mistake, but rise up now steady your nerve and take the fight to the Caldari before they take it to us.
Take not your anger and rage to the Caldari man and woman who toils under the corporations draconian laws and regulations, take the fight directly to the corporations and their interests, be not blind in your actions but be like your enemy methodical and lethal give them no respite leave them no retreat and strike them where they are the weakest, give them not the time they need to assemble and ready their war machine, our enemie is not weak or stupid, they will stike at us if given time and even if surprised they are not to be underestimated they will fight to the bitter end to maintain the status quo that gives the select few dominion over the masses.
Fellow Gallenteans let not this chance to shape and better the destiny or trillions pass you by, be what we where always meant to be and help create a world that has no place for people like me and even less place for people like the corporate masters of the Caladri.
My best and sincerest regards to you all,
Kahrek Laume.
Coward.
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Jake Dreadmore
Caldari JotunHeim Hird Aurora Borealis Foundation
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda You sir, deserve to die.
If the war comes, it'll only be a manner months before we can put him under key and locker and force him to listen to that infernal song for an ethernity
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Tyber Raine
Caldari Gladiators of Rage DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:00:00 -
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I would like to remind you, Kahrek, that the Caldari Navy, although numerically smaller than the Amarr and Gallente Navies, do field more Battleship type vessels and the average age of Caldari ships is considerably less as well. So come if you wish, test your mettle under Caldari guns.
Also I would not consider this man a right-wing nut he strikes me as a radical or reactionary. Even though they are on opposite ends of the political spectrum I find that the spectrum is more circular and they eventually meet as both are political psychopaths.
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Nachshon on 18/05/2008 03:38:34
Originally by: Garion Avarr You are a fool, a fool that blindly plays into the hands of those who wish to manipulate fools into starting a war.
I have just come from seven hours of working on relief efforts in Malkalen, personally leading search and rescue teams and providing coordination for others. The respose to this disaster has been amazing. Pod pilots have gotten out of their pods to work alongside their crews to pull bodies from the wreckage. Gallente and Caldari worked together in order to save survivors, indeed, it was jointly organized by Caldari and Gallente pod pilots. Amarr and Minmatar worked together without regard to any issue of slavery or desire to Reclaim. All that was put aside, and we became as one.
And, save for the horror that precipitated this coming together, it was glorious to behold.
If you would spit in the face of that, then you are a fool and a foe to humanity itself.
Seconded.
You know, it seems that today, the Amarr and Minmatar are being sensible, while the Caldari and Gallente engage in saber-rattling.
As for the OP, his words reveal him to be a madman, but his engaging in the vile ancient practice of "rickrolling" put him in a league with Darth Sage. Someone destroy him. I don't care who. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Karanth
Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.18 05:47:00 -
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The "peace" we shared was a lie. Anyone who believed otherwise is a fool. I will admit that I had hoped maybe, just maybe, we could have peace.
I was a fool.
After all, all the years of rhetoric, of lies, of covert attacks, of smiles and knives in the night, how can any rational person believe that there ever would be peace?
And since peace is no longer an option, war it will be. Noir is a hero, and my only regret is that the Nyx he piloted took so much time to hit that station. If it had been faster, the death toll would have been much higher.
The State earned this revenge by its own efforts, and I won't rest until the State is incapable of threatening the Federation.
Ever again.
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