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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:00:00 -
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Well Let's see, a brief look at out history.
We had a previous season back in 2007 http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=527572&page=1
Since then other spin offs up and happened and gone such as SWA-RM (which I'm in the process of devouring) and SWARTA (they left and formed their own corp).
I had to quit SWA-G(lory) shortly after the height of 2007 due to real life obligations and didn't recently sign back up until just recently.
On my return I was happy to see the channel was still occupied... except 100% of the people there are no longer in SWA, most tried to keep things together after I left but many moved onto to do bigger better and badder things. Some quit some still around some making names for themselves.
So after some rust busting, and a lot of begging and having much less tools and help than before I am restarting the SWA-PVP program.
General SOPs
1 No recruiting, I am not your personal rookie factory. |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:00:00 -
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Reserved to link to ops battle reports. |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:04:00 -
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Operation Hammerville
SWA 3/4/2012
Time 0000
Report Author: Gunnery Sargent Rick Galshin
Location: M-OEE8
Cruisron 02: Medium Weight Patrol out for Combat Familiarization
Commanding Officer : Capt Stellar Vix
Report
Round 1:
The patrol started as standard, this time from Vuorrassi, heading north into nullsec. The fleet consisted of a handful of frigates, a lonely Osprey and some tooled up battlecruisers, with Stellar Vix leading from her Ferox. Cassandra was nominated as scout and she led us through lowsec where we scared off a rifter and moved on towards the future battlefield.
The fleet was lined up ready on the gate into nullsec, gate guns watching solemnly over our mini-armada. The call came in from the scout "Two rifters on the gate". Moments later Stellar gave the kill order and the fleet jumped in and immediately grabbed the Rifters and started smashing them. A handful of bombers popped in and took a few easy drone kills before fleeing from the battle-thirsty SWA fleet.
Stellar disengaged the fleet fearing a bait trap, and the fleet escaped to a nearby celestial.
The heavies were sent back to check the damage, and sure enough more ships had turned up to feast.
Engagements happened quickly. Two Hurricanes and a Vagabond were engaging the SWA heavies, with a swarm of drones in support. The SWA Drones had mostly been destroyed by the stealth bombers, and the lights were called in. A fortunate miscommunication resulted in the squishies jumping to the lowsec gate and having to watch as the heavies pulled out via the jump gate. SWA suffered losses, with Grim learnt a tough lesson when the gate wouldn't let him through thanks to his drones bombarding the enemy. Several frigates were popped before they escaped, but SWA made it out intact, with spare ships at the ready for round 2.
Kills: 2 Rifters, A handful of Tech 2 drones.
Losses: Myrmidon, some rifters, a bunch of drones and whatever badass ship Draconaes was flying.
Round 2: Yes we went back.
Arriving into nullsec, local was busy, the gate was clear. The fleet jumped in and began warping to a nearby celestial when 2 hurricanes decloaked, grabbed the SWA heavies and started chipping away at them. The rest of the fleet began warping back to the heavies piecemeal, but ultimately were destroyed.
Kills: Several more Tech 2 drones.
Losses: A handful of BCs, bunch of frigates, some more drones and a destroyer or two.
There was a lot to take in, but the fleet fought well, learnt some valuable lessons, and gained respect from our enemies.
Congratulations to the new pilots taking part on the Roam, and thank you to the more experienced players for making the fights a bit more balanced as well as sharing your experience and resources with us newer players who are still learning.
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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.03.05 18:59:00 -
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In retrospect, I so totally fubared round '3' of that op up ordering everyone off the gate. Wanted to engage the enemy on my terms not thiers.
They where much better at dictating it. :(
-Vix |
Calisto Thellere
Klaatu Technologies
3
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Posted - 2012.03.05 20:40:00 -
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Huh? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
628
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:53:00 -
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... cool story, bros?
It's good that you're making PvP more accessible to newbies, and good that you had fun, but does this AAR really belong here in GD?
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
Mining For Profit Alliance
178
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Posted - 2012.03.06 00:21:00 -
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+1 to Stellar Vix o7 |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
496
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Posted - 2012.03.06 07:11:00 -
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+1 for getting newbies into PvP |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2915
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Posted - 2012.03.06 09:35:00 -
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- 1 for pretending that it's a real military operation
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
485
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Posted - 2012.03.06 10:09:00 -
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tl;dr
Newb corp like "player corp" without the corp restrictions, gets people into PVP. Even though they hang out in the newb corp all day, they do actually participate with the universe at large from time to time with a cadre of individuals who form the nucleus and invite other individuals on scheduled events much like a CTA for the 1337 Nullblocks.
amirite ?  |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.06 15:34:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:- 1 for pretending that it's a real military operation
Now this here is a bit of a short sighted observation
Trying to run it military helps keeps the rooks organized and in line like using cat nip to try to herd a bunch of cats is not that entirely easy. It serves as a rallying point, increases morale, reduction in confusion and ultimately preconditions the rook for when they do leave the ranks of SWA and join a real military corp they won't be as unreliable
Also its a very excellent way to get them to start taking charge of themselves and other people the oldest rooks in the program are now beginning to help our newest members though the knowledge they learn. I have two considering in becoming FC's now
They are getting the idea that organization and team work does produce results and that we are killing much older players because of it
Either way its fun for the rooks and a break from pve'ing their minds to death and rage quitting when they get ganked.
-Vix
SWA Instructor |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3376
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:11:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:- 1 for pretending that it's a real military operation
I thought it was State War Academy, sound very military.
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My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
18
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:21:00 -
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LOL @ you for trying to train noobs by being a noob yourself.
You took a group of noobs to Goon space and lead them to slaughter... lol... What made you think you could get a fight "on your terms" in goon space...?
Hell, what made you think you could get a fight "on your terms" in Eve?
No offense, I like your idea, but you may want to un-noob yourself a bit more before you try to un-noob other people...
...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
418
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:30:00 -
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Er...have a cookie? Also that's NCdot space so congratulations on getting them to engage with anything under 40 titans with 30 on backup.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.06 20:06:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:LOL @ you for trying to train noobs by being a noob yourself.
You took a group of noobs to SOV space and lead them to slaughter... lol... What made you think you could get a fight "on your terms" in SOV space...?
Hell, what made you think you could get a fight "on your terms" in Eve?
No offense, I like your idea, but you may want to un-noob yourself a bit more before you try to un-noob other people...
You're obviously not an FC.
If you look at the battlefield like an FC does you'll start to get an apperciation for your enemeis, be able to read fleets like they're a book and see stuff happen before it all goes to hell.
I already tell the rooks before every fleet op that objective is to die. Bonus objective is dragging as many can down with us.
In this case fighting on terms takes an entirely new meaning. I know my fleets will never be on par with null fleets or on the same platue any time soon, this isnt the term I am talking about. The term I am talking about is who is doing most of the writing in that battle, who decides how the battle starts and who tries to dictate the flow of the entire fight. I got too fancy and broken midstride in this little deadly dance allowing the enemies control of that writing pen. What could have been a bloodied victory wound up in total defeat. I overestimated my rooks was one of my largest mistakes and having a nice hiccup in connection caused me to decloak and not warp :( which got me killed and out of commission and handed command to Draconis who was in the process of getting the fleet to land on top of me to take out the hurricane that was 4kms off by bow.
I knew the squadon we ran into didn't have a FC and I already knew we where caught in the early warning system which is why I didn't want to get the lights involved too quickly since most of them are anti-frigate fitted and we tried to kill as many drones as possible to give the frigates a chance or have the heavies get the attention first.
I know some of the best FCs in the game can orchestrate some masterful peices of work. Im just a novice writer and the only way to become successful is to go out and do it.
-Vix |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.06 20:12:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Er...have a cookie? Also that's NCdot space so congratulations on getting them to engage with anything under 40 titans with 30 on backup.
I have yet managed to get a capital hot dropped on my fleets for the month of operations we been performing. So far we operate anywhere from north west to east southish depends on how big the orange blobs ships killed by the last hour are for op day.
Rooks two weeks ago had a good look at a system being taken over after everyone gone home for the day and we ran into the cleanup crews. That was one hell of a face smashing we had then 12 hurricanes 1 talos and 2 assult frigates, we only downed the talos and one wolf, would have loved to gotten the crusader as well but the canes where to much for us and general retreat was called. I think only two ships got out of that mess of drones.
Think it was over in PNE3 area north of Lonetrek.
-Vix |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
419
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Posted - 2012.03.06 21:34:00 -
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This writing confuses and infuriates me. Well, mainly confuses. 
http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose
Remove all incursions from hisec |
Dragondrop
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 22:46:00 -
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Thanks a lot for organizing these roams; i had tons of fun on this one, and i will be sure to check in every week when i have the time =) |
Aiyne Starfyre
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 23:00:00 -
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I don't understand why people are hating on this. Sure pilots are dying, but they're also learning and isn't that important?
Who cares if we're losing 15 frigates in an engagement ? We're learning how to PvP in a friendly environment that doesn't force us to adhere to specific fittings/ships. We can take what we want and figure out how it works. Maybe the fleet's effectiveness is dropped because of this, but we'll gain experience in whatever role we had for that specific engagement. |
Draconaes Korr
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 23:10:00 -
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Thanks for organizing these ops, Vix. It's been boring ever since Obs stopped running SWARM. |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:47:00 -
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Operation Graystone
Report Author: Captain Stellar Vix
Location: Geminate Region
SWA: 3/18/2012
Time: 0001
Desron 03: Mixed Weight Patrol out for Combat Familiarization, 2 Battle cruisers 1 Cruiser, 10 Frigate
Commanding Officer : Captain Stellar Vix
Watching the Naga Attack Battlecruiser roll off the assembly line I couldn't wait to get her out for a spin and had her customized for the operation before loading her into the SWA Sky Dancer, a re-purposed Orca serving as my mobile base of operations. From there I plotted the patrol route based on a few metrics of activity and set course
Today I had about 4 new rooks, 2 new ex-patriots, one ex-SWA and rest of the fleet was from my previous roams still learning. They all came in their usual bunch and hodge podge collection of ships, interesting though two of our pilots decided to try out the griffon to my liking as support target jammers
However as usual took about four hours to lasso up these herd of cats into one system and then we finally departed into the Geminiate region
One of the ex-patriot pilots volunteered while our tradesmen by day selected to be rear scout. I was Fleet Command again today as none of my Lieutenants showed up. None the less they where all eager except one to which had the gall to backtalk to me and ignore advice at his cost later on
The fleet was finally rounded up, pre-flights preformed and comms online and we shortly departed into null sec space
First hop into low sec was a bit lively on local so I order everyone off the gates and sweep the belt, The forward scout was top notch and found us a Drameil running a 2/10 plex. Frigates went in to antagonize the prey while the heavies sat outside guarding the entrance to the plex. I speed off to burnable distance to not only pick up drones but to put any target that warps directly to the gate a fist full of railgun charges.
The frigates inside reported that the Drameil ran off after engaging the squadron after failed attempts to get the ships to spread out. Re-affirming the order to stay in formation saved them from being picked off.
The hostile Dramiel then returns to the complex gate where I quickly locked him up and fired off a volley off before he got away again. Purposely leaving one of the abandoned e-war drones out I then ordered my rookies to get out the plex and start warping to me.
The gambit paid off the Drameil pilot warped 10 kms off my bow and started to pound away at my shields while I burned back to the rest of the fleet. The friendly tackler and griffon pilots first ones to show up and scared him off my tail after I got into half shields. The Dramiel did his best to get out of there and almost did as he was well far ways off and trying to get out of scramming range of the tacklers. I fired another volley at 110 kms off with the antimatter rounds and nailed him square on the head shredding his armor and hull in one blast.
A Congratulations given to the fleet on a successful kill without losses. Feeling confident we moved on
We traveled a good 10 jumps with no action until we where about to reach way point ALPHA, the site was picked for the large number of ships destroyed there the day before. Rear scout starts tallying 4 stealth ships behind us. Thinking they where an advanced patrol since I didn't get a good alliance/corp tag from rear scout I assumed they where EWPATs and ordered the fleet to push forward at best speed as I do not want my rookies dealing with a stealth bomber especially with no logistical support this far out. Four systems in and Scout jumped though and reported 25 in local and two Thannatos carriers on d-scan without star base structures listed I decided to 'skip' this system as quickly as possible
Turns out that wasn't quick enough. Appox 4 sabers, 1 bellcose, 1 Loki, 1 Onerious, 1 Stilletio where among the first ships of AAA to meet us. Scout who already jump ahead reported a similar sized fleet on the other side as well. Thus we just got caught in a pincer attack. I tried my best to direct the efforts the Onerios couldn't be dealt with our level of firepower and I ordered the jammers onto them. Unfortunately we only fitted Matari jammers this week Gallente was bottom of our lists. I ordered the rest of the fleet on the Loki in an attempt to match kill weight but with none of the jams working damage we dealt was quickly nullified and he stayed at full health then.
All but two frigates got out we lost several pods to the sabers mobile fields. I barely made it out myself in half armor on the pod. Over all out of 12 I think only four of us made it back to high sec without the travel express option.
Debreif basically came to the unanimous conclusion, we where just simply screwed in that system in that pincer attack which just seemed to be by accident as the four stealth pilots behind us was later found to been caught in the same trap that just wiped my fleet out. They fared slightly better with a loss of an unaffiliated falcon.
None the less the rookies had fun and some of the ex-patriots tried to sell me a bit higher on the FC competence level which I tried to reject but they insisted.
I have issued out only 1 derpy ribbon today, to myself for beating my scout though a gate >
and no Micheal J Caboose medals so that's something. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
367
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:55:00 -
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Haters gonna hate.
They mad because training programs within the noob corps makes TOO MUCH SENSE.
Wish I knew about this when I was in SWA. Keep up the good work. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1329
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:02:00 -
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I thought noobs were for victimizing?
This game is going to the dogs. 
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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:16:00 -
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I think we got victimized in that last roam. The pounded us pretty hard that is the fastest I ever lost a mix weight fleet ever. Then it dawned on the rooks after they asked who in the heck was AAA, and I had to give them the spill about their involvment in the great war.
They where surprised we actually tried to take on such an enemy and how long we lasted.
-Vix
SWA Instructor |
Rick Galshin
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:20:00 -
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Bumping in the hope that the faceless mass of SWA sees this thread and pays attention to corp chat once in a while.
More on topic:
These roams are a great tool, giving rookies their first taste of a tough fight where the odds are against you. Its in these situations that I see people freezing, forgetting to retarget, capping out, forgetting their drones and not paying attention to the space around them. With just a little experience, the rookie pilots on our fleets are insuring themselves against poor decision making when the worst comes to the worst.
Additionally, everyone gets a good idea of fitting practices, fleet tactics and teamwork, as well as being able to see null without being the only target for the big bad SOV-holders to pod.
You can only turn your brainpower into firepower... if your head ain't on fire.
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Rick Galshin
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.18 10:22:00 -
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Have been asked to update the thread with some of the minor operations I've been involved with.
Just to satisfy the forum trolls, yes the following are a lot smaller scale than a typical operation, but they all show a flavour of what the SWA combat division gets up to.
Operation Miner Detail
Word comes in on Corp chat that somebody is stealing cans of ore from rookie miners in Uitra (an SWA starter system).
Myself and a nearby missioner respond and head on down to Uitra in disposable ships to take a look.
Sure enough I recognise Soulreaper27 in a thorax, known for suicide ganking frigates in the system.
One of our Rookies, Trent Hakaari heads out to the belt and begins mining into a can in his cheap-fit Caracal, whilst I get details from the victims in system. We positively ID the target, and get a scan on his ship, it looks like a throwaway DPS boat, not worth trying to fight at the possible cost of two cruisers (even both insured).
Cue a bit of talking in PM with the target, and he agrees to an arranged fight. The rupture is downgraded slightly and the caracal lines up in a safe spot after Soulreaper again steals the ore. Thorax shows up, tooling along at an ungodly speed for an armour-tank, and we trade cans.
Moments later, our friend Soulreaper is tied down by the unexpected appearance of a second cruiser (whom he stole a can of ore from), with drones crawling over his ship and slowly falling out of blaster range of the aggressing rupture.
The Thorax flounders and Trent Hakaari moves in closer, to maintain a solid point on the target, the damage continues to rain in and we see the first sign of trouble. Our friend soulreaper has called in a multi-million SP drake pilot to rescue him. We chew right through the last of soulreaper's hull and the caracal warps out whilst I hold the drake's attention.
Nothing further to do, I attempt to destroy my drones, and offer a cheap ransom payment in local which is turned down. The drake holding the cheap-fit ruppy waiting for a refitted thorax to return...
A minute passes and sure enough Soulreaper brings out an anti-frigate/suicide ganking fit Thorax and Removes the last of my ruppy's armour.
Battle over, the drake scoops up his friend's loot (very lucky with almost 100% drop rate).
Final results, One solid kill for SWA pilots Trent Hakaani and Rick Galshin, 21 million isk "rookie harassing Thorax" destroyed, one 13 million isk "poorly fit rupture" lost.
Killmails:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15568961
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15568914
Some lessons learnt about target selection and maintaing appropriate ranges. Overall we were happy with the result considering the huge skillpoint gap involved, and the lack of appropriate fitted ships in the area.
Just another day in the State War Academy.
- Rick |
Rick Galshin
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.18 10:56:00 -
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Another small-scale SWA training op
Operation Missioner Improbable
A certain pilot by the name of Exhum4n had been sighted repeatedly harassing rookie SWA and eve uni mission runners in Perimeter. An Ex-SWA rookie by the name of Dazzork Anneto asked to help bring him down following the loss of an SWA missioning drake that got overconfident
The stage was set, our Ex-SWA rookie set up a mission in Perimeter and an apparent "mission-specific loot can" was dropped next to a mission industrial wreck. Sure enough, the target scans down and sees a sniper-fit "apparently PvE" Omen running missions, grabs the mission loot and gets shot at. He pulls out his Caldari Navy Hookbill and warps in to find two cruisers waiting
Before he knows what's happening, he's dead in the water, double webbed, scrammed, 6 drones and two lots of DPS pouring in on him. 12 volleys later, one rookie-harassing Faction Frigate wrecked, one rookie-harasser ruined into joining a new corp for help. Dazzork walks away with his first real PvP kill and Perimeter is safer for our rookie missioners a week or so
Killmail: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=1559407
Just another day in the State War Academ
- Rick |
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2012.03.18 16:16:00 -
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Nice going Rick, sending a few more subordinates your way and bill me some of the ship losses.
Please remove the kill mail links when you get the chance and you posted the wrong KM on the second operation.
-Vix |
Zelai Rothean
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.22 00:39:00 -
[29] - Quote
Sounds like a lot of fun, and a good idea at that.
Look forward to some action in the near future! |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.03.22 01:18:00 -
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So - My turn.
Now, first off - if you check my profile, you'll find I'm over three years old. So in what manner am I a n00b..? Very nearly three years off-line. Life happens. 
So, one of my alts runs with the fleet that took out the Talos - I was (am) PvP-clueless, but Stellar was extremely patient, and I was getting the general idea fairly quick, until we hit a meeting engagement at a gate. We'd been detected, and shadowed, but the trailing scout counter-detected our follower, and Stellar called us to hold on the gate, instead of busting through. Good call.
On the other side, there was a qucik-n-dirty ambush set up. They weren't expecting Stellar to flush us all through the gate at once. Immediate pandemonium! Target-rich environment, and our ambushers had a hard time picking the right ones. I got picked out immediately, and soaked up two full volleys of heavy artillery that would have been far more profitably aimed at one of our heavies. Pop! I find myself in the midst of my first fleet battle in a pod, surrounded by fireworks.
About this time, or very nearly, a fleet of 'Canes came streaming through the gate behind us, slamming that door on us - hard. Fleet chat remains surprisingly disciplined, and I get a decent snapshot of what's happening - Talos down, but our fleet masively outgunned and burning fast. I pop my pod back through the gate, looking to get away before enough frigates burn that targetting pods becomes a reasonable act - And fnd an anti-warp field waiting me.
Nowhere to go, I pop back through the gate right into the middle of the fight. The first thing I see is a red pod, and I know things aren't entirely one-sided. Communications discipline is largely holding, and an escape route is broadcast to the fleet - those of us still in space. Back I go through the 'cane gate, and manage to avoid getting bubbled or scrammed; I lit out for safety like a scalded cat.
Along the way, I spot two other Fleet pods, making the same dash. All three of us break into Empire space at the same time, and begin finding our way back home. Stellar is trying to regroup the fleet for a re-engagement, but things (and people) are too scattered. Along the way home, a Thrasher spots our pods fleeing homeward, and tries to nail us in Empire space - trying to lock us at gates, following us through several systems, slowly losing ground - finally giving up and returning to whatever he was up to before he scented blood.
At the end of the day, we lost the numbers game,but came damn near to winning the ISK game. A good run, and a pretty respectable result, considering the numbers of rookies and raw n00bs in the fleet.
Thanks, Stellar! |
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