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OVERCOPES 1
Amarr B.D.S.M. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota As for the rest of the Privateer Alliance posts, I expected as much from you! You belittle the original points conveyed and force people into childish smack talk matches. Most of EVE agree with me when I say, CanÆt you just find some quiet place to die?
ôSub-humans like BC Hastings and his pack of trolls. They simply aren't worth the effort and smack talk has no valueö
Well put Silentbrick, I couldnÆt agree more. Good to see you standing up for yourself!
We force no-one into smack talk. Provide proof that most of eve agree with you. We belittle you because we can,go hire some more mercs.
And some chat logs would be nice also,y'know so not to make out your some b**ls$%%er or anything.
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ishkabibble
Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:45:00 -
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OP is looking at this all wrong, and if this is the sentiment of Eve university they they are foolish.
A wardec shortens the learning curve for your noobies, you should be thanking privateers for speeding up the learning process.
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Arbelia Amarsa
Duchy of Amarsa
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:47:00 -
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See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already. ----------------------------------------
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The Jackhammer
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa ... put a cap on them already.
ALREADY been there ... Clicky
Cry for us some more .. MAYBE they'll change thier own rules again to accomodate you ... ADAPT -or- LOSE ... We did .... 
Thank-You,
The Jackhammer
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Sionide
Minmatar THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:04:00 -
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I guess you people who feel sorry for Eve Uni fail to read the post that described what happened (it's on the first page).
So let me repeat: TRAPS war decced some noob corp (as they are known to do), that noob corp joined Eve Uni hoping for someone to hide behind. Eve Uni accepted them knowing full well that they were accepting a corp that was being war decced. Thus, Eve Uni are the ones responsible for THEIR actions, and no one else.
Ofc the small pirate corp of TRAPS were no match for Eve Uni and they posted on this forum perhaps for help? (I know cause I posted in that thread). I believe TRAPS used to be in the Privateers Alliance back in the day, so they had good relations with them. Privateers then answered TRAPS call for help.
Eve Uni are the ones that got themselves into this problem, and I have no sympathy for them. Don't get me wrong, I think what Eve Uni does is a great thing and a great service to the Eve community; but that is not an excuse for them not being accountable for THEIR actions. If they just stayed out of other people's business and did their own thing, they would not be in this situation. If they want to play the hero, then they need to face all that comes with that responsibility.
=== In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Ok, the way I remember this:
TRAPS decced a corp which promptly went and joined Eve University in order to hide behind a massive blob. Said blob materialized, prompting TRAPS to counter it by joining Privateers. A lot of smack erupted from the IVY-fanbois about how Privateers where going to get 'pwned'. After five weeks of war, IVY is falling apart, and said smacking fanbois are now crying for help on the forums.
Did I miss anything?
Bottom line: Don't let corps join that are wardecced unless you are 100% certain you can outlive the war.
yeah ivy is falling apart that's why privs used a spy to suicide a multibillion isk faction ship to raise their morale.
Did i miss anything?
please, get your facts right before you try smacking, you're an utter embarrasment.
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already.
Goonswarm I believe does far more for new players getting into 0.0 and PvP, yet you don't support them?
Privateers has been capped, this is why we choose Eve-Uni, they at least undock and fight now and then which is much more than many other alliances stuck in the train of thought that PvP only occurs in 0.0 where they can drop 3 motherships and a couple of titans on any tresspassers.
Originally by: Zealota With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
You do not understand the Privateer Alliance. Unlike most alliances, we're all only here because we're allied in one common goal, this is unconventional to say the least - most opt for joining noddy alliance #3976321 - take a look at how alliances often fall apart, Triumvirate is the most recent example - an alliance ripped apart by infighting born from differing goals and apparently a modicum of greed. Privateers is simple, as a pilot I don't need to respect anybody so long as I can remain at least civil, the choices are simply, you can either like it, lump it or leave - there is no board of directors, alliance council or anything that involves pontificating clunks trying to exert their influence in alliance direction. We don't even have a diplomat as diplomacy is not a necessity. Likewise any of us are able to offer suggestions to those in charge and they can either agree or ignore it and that's the end of the matter. Saves a lot of clunking around to be honest.
As for Eve-University teaching new players how to fight, I disagree. They teach people to fight with a blob and to match each enemy ship with at least one dedicated EW ship plus the rest. Take a look at the general consensus of opinion concerning how combat is performed typically in 0.0 and maybe you will start to agree that taking Eve-University and their school of thought out of the equation could only be a good thing for Eve as a whole. That isn't to say that Privateers will do that, Eve-Uni is in no danger at all, you're claims that they are heading for disaster is melodramatic balloonary at it's best.
Thunk
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X3k5
Amarr Brotherhood of the Phoenix Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota
I propose a fund for Eve University; donate what you can (however small). I will act as an honest 3rd party financial holder for the donations
God! Is there anything ppl dont try to scam out of. The lower ppl go, the more I hate them. Zealota, u are now -10 to me. Anyone who is concerned for the Uni, DONT send this guy ISK. If you wanna donate, donate straight to the Uni.
And as far as I hear, Uni is doing just fine by itself. They brought this upon themselves and they dont need ur help, they dont need ur pity and they most definitely dont need your smack so stop posting in this thread. The End.
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sionide I guess you people who feel sorry for Eve Uni fail to read the post that described what happened (it's on the first page).
So let me repeat: TRAPS war decced some noob corp (as they are known to do), that noob corp joined Eve Uni hoping for someone to hide behind. Eve Uni accepted them knowing full well that they were accepting a corp that was being war decced. Thus, Eve Uni are the ones responsible for THEIR actions, and no one else.
Ofc the small pirate corp of TRAPS were no match for Eve Uni and they posted on this forum perhaps for help? (I know cause I posted in that thread). I believe TRAPS used to be in the Privateers Alliance back in the day, so they had good relations with them. Privateers then answered TRAPS call for help.
Eve Uni are the ones that got themselves into this problem, and I have no sympathy for them. Don't get me wrong, I think what Eve Uni does is a great thing and a great service to the Eve community; but that is not an excuse for them not being accountable for THEIR actions. If they just stayed out of other people's business and did their own thing, they would not be in this situation. If they want to play the hero, then they need to face all that comes with that responsibility.
you'll not find one post from eve uni or their alts asking for help for this war. Because they really don't need it. The op is plainly a scammer (!) and is **** stirring cos let's face it eve uni and wardecs is a touchy subject and easily sets a ***** fight off. But your right, it was actually traps who whined for help and privs, who had been screwing about with the uni long before the wardec began for real (I recall one strange attempt where a privs alt applied to join and then started inviting privs into a convo with a recuitment officier, trying to get a fight going, lmfao) that used it as an excuse to wardec, cos they desperately needed targets.
that said yeah, eve uni accepting a wardecced corp (err hello neutrality!) was asking for it lol.
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: The Hooch on 17/05/2008 18:00:36
Quote: "Hey, look at me, i can bully some newbies for more than 4 weeks straight!"
Does any of you have any idea how ridiculous you look?
And do you know how little we happen to care or how good threads like this help us?
Keep them coming!
The best part is, the cost of re-newing the dec is just 150 million, now that is a bargin! Hooch
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss
Originally by: zealota With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
I TOTALLY agree ... I've lost all respect AFTER week 2 ... I'm sick of upper levels making me wear this dress DURING extended gate camps ... I WILL NOT sit in Hooch's lap anymore WHILE pvping 
Shaddup, you like it and you know it 
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Joachim Kato
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2008.05.17 18:39:00 -
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Don't worry - EVE Uni gonna blob their way through.... 
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.05.17 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viqtoria
yeah ivy is falling apart that's why privs used a spy to suicide a multibillion isk faction ship to raise their morale.
Did i miss anything?
please, get your facts right before you try smacking, you're an utter embarrasment.
Pardon me for not caring enough about Eve University to not take the OPs statement as the truth. I freely admit, I know almost nothing about the University, except that they have an undeserved high reputation among the community. They teach nothing but carebear stuff. The so called 'pvp' they teach is all blobbing. That's not doing the game a service.
Btw, why don't you post with your Eve University main? Your comments are gonna get snipped since you're in a noob corp.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Decobian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.17 19:17:00 -
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Its sad but its Eve and Eve is a cold hostile world. Ivy does have alot of pilotsd thuogh there no reason why they cant just gank the privateers back
If they can only kill noobs then fare enuf I suppose, tbh the only way your gonna stop it is if about 5 or 6 other allaicnes dec privateers back and constantly gank em till they get bored and give up the wardec.
Either way the new players are gonna loose out in the mean time. and there n00bp33n is gonna keep on growing heh
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overcorpse
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Decobian Its sad but its Eve and Eve is a cold hostile world. Ivy does have alot of pilotsd thuogh there no reason why they cant just gank the privateers back
If they can only kill noobs then fare enuf I suppose, tbh the only way your gonna stop it is if about 5 or 6 other allaicnes dec privateers back and constantly gank em till they get bored and give up the wardec.
Either way the new players are gonna loose out in the mean time. and there n00bp33n is gonna keep on growing heh
Must be awesome to be able to type with your elbows.
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Bloodlet Eyes
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:36:00 -
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EVE Uni should consider hiring a merc corp if tey are unable to defend them selfs. More over if EVE Uni pilots were to join merc lead ops, they would be furthering thier mcuh needed education.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:40:00 -
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The uni brought it upon themselves, when they absorbed LOLS they lost all rights to proclaim themselves as a non-hostile neutral entity.
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx The uni brought it upon themselves, when they absorbed LOLS they lost all rights to proclaim themselves as a non-hostile neutral entity.
yeh but why do you have a captcha image for a sig?
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already.
check killboards and wardecs before you make stuff up ;]
and speaking of 'easy ganks'. that's what 90% of eve population is looking for. the 'we won't engage untill we can outblob you' policy has been employed by many alliances and corps alike.
also, privateers have a very simple philosophy. empire war fun. eve uni will at least get a taste of high sec pew pew before they move on.
too many people take piloting spaceships too seriously. it's not like you're gonna die if you get podded =)
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Cordran Li
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already.
So Eve players are still upset about T20 helping out BOB for some reason, and you want CCP to "help" Eve Uni? Seems like a double standard.
Also Eve Uni isn't CCP's cash cow, it's an in game alliance and therefore is part of the game. CCP must and does treat Eve Uni as every other alliance in the game. They only train people, maybe they get a few people to actually join Eve, but probably not many.
Eve Uni will die eventually, whether it's from this war (probably not but that would be cool) or, more likely, from the passage of time. Will you say CCP has "epic failed" because they didn't have a game mechanic that forces people to constantly play?
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Tommy Foofoo
Caldari Molden Heath Gentlemen's Society
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Pardon me for not caring enough about Eve University to not take the OPs statement as the truth. I freely admit, I know almost nothing about the University, except that they have an undeserved high reputation among the community. They teach nothing but carebear stuff. The so called 'pvp' they teach is all blobbing. That's not doing the game a service.
I don't think that's quite right. Blobbing is what they do, not necessarily what they teach. TBH I can't see that they'd have ever gotten that high reputation in the first place, if they didn't give noobs at least a bit of "proper" PvP training.
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:56:00 -
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I think its hilarious privateers come on here sprouting how uber they are podding noobs when our small gang made 2 tempest logofski in rens after station hugging for awhile. So sick of you anti-social life failures projecting and spewing your trash over destroying a few caracals. For that reason alone you will be looked at as a joke and only a minor annoyance with anyone with some pvp skills.
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Reverand Pastor I think its hilarious privateers come on here sprouting how uber they are podding noobs when our small gang made 2 tempest logofski in rens after station hugging for awhile. So sick of you anti-social life failures projecting and spewing your trash over destroying a few caracals. For that reason alone you will be looked at as a joke and only a minor annoyance with anyone with some pvp skills.
lol, please check your own killboard first =)
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:13:00 -
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Check kb? wtf does that have to do with anything i said. if anything you are making my argument for me. We are fighting 6 alliances all with very good pvp experience compared to you guys podding 2 week old toons in ibis's check the kb;s indeed...
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Reverand Pastor Check kb? wtf does that have to do with anything i said. if anything you are making my argument for me. We are fighting 6 alliances all with very good pvp experience compared to you guys podding 2 week old toons in ibis's check the kb;s indeed...
hehe, you know there is a search function on a lot of killboards, don't you ? =) use it please.
i'm not here to troll or flame or however else it's called nowadays. i actually checked your wardecs and killboards before replying to your post. so please do the same and back your posts up with facts =)
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:42:00 -
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byez o/
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Jelena Jinx
Gallente Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2008.05.17 23:13:00 -
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woosh.. some spaceships got ganked and killed.... omg.. skyes are falling.
tbh privs have very good wars while fighting ivy. like atomic battle penguins, tri(before it collapsed), itrepid, -v-, etc etc... some of them currently running also.
im not here to defend privs... as my main is in there also :P.. ill now just enjoy the smack and trashtalk... :D
PS: yes im posting whit an alt...
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The Jackhammer
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Reverand Pastor ... We are fighting 6 alliances ....

Your carebear tears are delicious ... thank you ... i was hungry
BTW we have 4-6 wars weekly on average ...
its called MULTI TASKING 
Thank-You,
The Jackhammer
Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota Fellow pilots, It has recently come to my attention after a short break from the game that ôPrivateer Allianceö has unjustifiably declared war on Eve University. They need your helpà Continuedà
The history between Hooch and EvE-Uni was pretty well documented. For a long time The Privateers did not condone targeting the EvE-Uni because of the reputation of being of an organization dedicated to new EvE Players. However, the EvE-Uni continued to provoke Privateers. So Hooch lifted the immunity.
As a long time support and admirer of what the EvE University once was, a organization who's passion was to involve and train new player on how to EvE, I'm going to say this once...
The passion that was the E-Uni is gone. Unfortunately, Morning Maniac is no longer the guiding influence. The present directorship is beyond lost and abuses the sympathy card.
I really don't give a dam who shoots the Eve University. They behave like and have proven to be qaulity targets. When the situation gets out of control, they call in and spin the sympathy card.
If anyone doubts what I have just said, create a new character, join the E-Uni and see for yourself.
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:51:00 -
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So I got half way through and this is what I read:
Eve Uni wannabe/alt: blah blah blarg blah blah isk to me blah blah pffft
Hooch: Look at me in the pretty pretty dress!
BC: Hey Eve Uni, BLOW ME!
Thousands of carebears: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Privateer Members: Hey everyone, look! Carebear tears! nomnomnomnomnom
Eve Uni FC: blah blah we will win blah blah morale hi blah blah
eve community: who gives a rats ass?
Yeah...that about sums it up. stop looking for reasons you little fish turds, and play the game. This isn't the U.N. and it isn't Politics:Online Its a damn internet spaceship game, and just because someon shoots you doesn't mean anything. It's pixels you little veldspar fairy, so get som better pixels and play the game, or do the world a favor and unplugg your computer and throw it out the window.
tl;dr version: get bent _____________________________
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