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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.17 13:57:00 -
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Fellow pilots,
It has recently come to my attention after a short break from the game that ôPrivateer Allianceö has unjustifiably declared war on Eve University. They need your helpà
As a supporter of the tremendous work this entity does for the eve community I was tortured to learn of this 5-week+ ongoing war. Therefore, to investigate the matters further I proceeded by contacting a few respectable diplomats from the Eve University who were extremely helpful and honest in explaining the current state of affairs regarding the war and the events leading to them, they even showed me strong evidence (fraps, logs, screenshots, neutral eye witness accounts etc.) to support their stories.
To build a more accurate picture of the truth (two sides to a story) I contacted diplomats from Privateer Alliance to determine their version of events leading to the declaration. Now, as a neutral un-biased party, simply curious, I was extremely shocked and disgusted the way Privateer Alliance responded to my simple, friendly and honest questions. Childish smack talk, constant insults, arrogance, incoherent sorties with different versions of events, lack of ANY evidence to support statements and even hints of propaganda to cover up the fact they are simply doing it out of bitterness.
Privateer AllianceÆs management claim: ôThe war was justified because of the fact we had been receiving vast amounts of player complaints of unprovoked attacks/killings of our members by Eve University pilots despite a NAP and negotiation efforts to simply resolve the matter by talkö to this statement I have a few things say:
1) When I simply asked you to provide me with 2 kills from your kill board suggesting this statement to be true, you explained to me that I should ôF**K Offö and ôStay out of your businessö. After intensive investigation of my own I could not find ONE kill suggesting an unprovoked attack, yet Eve University provided me 3 kill mails within 15minutes of me asking, proving you had been attacking them in low sec during the NAP and long before all of your ôsupposedö events. Did they declare war on you? Did they even batter an eyelid? Did they give you the benefit of the doubt?
2) After interviewing numerous pilots within the Privateer Alliance more then half explained to me that not only did you never engage in active negotiations with Eve University (which they would have happily condoned/preferred to resolve the non existent matter) but you did it out from lack of ôwar targetsö at the time due to a ôdry spellö then proceeded to cover this up with propaganda of ôunprovokedö attacks. The same pilots that revealed this truth to me also told me they strongly disagreed with the war and regret the leaders poor decision-making. 3) Eve University have told me they are willing to listen to your demands and even negotiate with you to bring a swift end to this pointless war, therefore, if you were willing to ônegotiateö ôto simply resolve the matter by talkö at the build-up to this war, why now do you persist in ignore a summoning of leaders to iron out the problems?
With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
I fully back Eve University on this matter, what reason what they have to lie? I have heard and reviewed stories/evidence from both parties that suggested they were telling the truth. I couldnÆt determine the reason for the Privateer AllianceÆs consistent belief in its lies, but I do know I have recently lost all respect for them.
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.17 13:58:00 -
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This war is literally crippling Eve University! Hundreds of new players have left (not only the University but EVE itself), billions of ISK has been lost, teaching schedules ruined, FC and other top figureheads leaving! They are on their last legs and in desperate need of your support! I personally cannot believe this has been allowed to happen, such a great organisation forged for new players out of good/wanting to help the community. Privateers are scum for doing this! Would you con a charity for money in real life? NO, so why do it here?
I propose a fund for Eve University; donate what you can (however small). I will act as an honest 3rd party financial holder for the donations, working with Eve University to arrange ships, modules, mercenary support and whatever else is needed to keep them going until the war has blown over. DonÆt stand by and let this amazing organisation disappear from EVE due to some primitive empire piratesà
Thank you for your support.
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.05.17 13:59:00 -
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Corp tickers are overrated.
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Souisa
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:00:00 -
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again ?
i think its a good lesson for the students.. privateers are learning them a lesson
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Lasakywa
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:05:00 -
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Copy your post, berore your get "snip". And put your alliance/corp ticker
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:13:00 -
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Thank you for your post, it has been a while since i have posted so my "setting" were not upto date. I can confirm this is a main charater and i have been playing EVE for 4 years as a trader.
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:13:00 -
[7]
hit me up in game |

Alfred Spangler
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:19:00 -
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Its a shame that recruiting is closed atm, obviously because of the wardecs. So no EVE Uni for me atm  .
Need a sig? Mail me ingame.
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:23:00 -
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<GASPS> I stand naked before the whole of Eve (which for an old fart such as I am is nasty) 
Blame J'inn from Shiva, I am nothing more that a puppet in his hands.
Hooch, exposed to all
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

BC Hastings
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: BC Hastings on 17/05/2008 14:35:19 Edited by: BC Hastings on 17/05/2008 14:33:04 Edited by: BC Hastings on 17/05/2008 14:23:57 IBTL.
Just a quick answer from the Leader of the Privateer Alliance. There is no reason to my deccing of Uni. There is no pretense of deccing them because such and such died in low sec. at their hands. I could care less. I decced them because I wanted to. I decced them because I can. Let's not clutter all this with crap that never happened. You never have contacted me and we have no diplomats. I am the sole reason Ivy is dying.
If Eve wants to blame someone then blame me. It's my fault. I am the privateer management. I don't have a NAP with anyone. If pilots revealed to you that they are unhappy have no obligation to stay with the alliance. They can come and go as they please, with no delay. If you are totally behind the IVY Join them and we will kill you to. If not the STFU. Simple as that.
Oh and as for not negotiating with Ivy before I decced them. I don't negotiate. I make demands.
Respectfully,
BC Hastings "Beat me if you can. Survive if I let you!"
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota Thank you for your post, it has been a while since i have posted so my "setting" were not upto date. I can confirm this is a main charater and i have been playing EVE for 4 years as a trader.
Ok sweet just confirming we send donations to the unknown npc corp alt then as opposed to directly to the uni?
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OVERCOPES 1
Amarr B.D.S.M. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:26:00 -
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My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Sorry could'nt resist
Technolisa>those yellow things work better than platinum insurance :P |

Sarwaka Foehammer
The Same 20 Guys
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:31:00 -
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So what seems to be the problem?
Eve war is fun. Just cause EVE-Uni is noob friendly should not be an excuse to not get shot. On the contrary, it provides a great excuse and an "Easy" target.
So in short: Boo hoo hoo!
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota Thank you for your post, it has been a while since i have posted so my "setting" were not upto date. I can confirm this is a main charater and i have been playing EVE for 4 years as a trader.
Right, and I wanna pony for Christmas... 
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

Lucas Avignon
Avignon Associates Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:32:00 -
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So what your saying is that the privateers alliance provide better training than Eve uni and Eve uni are **** 
Originally by: CCP Prism X Yeah, and while we're at it we can create a controlled environment around account hacking and credit card fraud and all the other EULA breaches..
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Interval
Grenadiers
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:35:00 -
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The situation she describes is shown in this comic. |

Roccia19
Caldari Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:36:00 -
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Hmm, the Racketeers beat the Privateers last fall & EVE University basically fought RAK to a drawl twice now logic would make it that EVE Uni could at least hold up to the privateers with their 40 man ecm gangs.
And to be honest in no way was your statement unbiased.
Things that are too good to be true are not meant to last forever...with that said I would have thought that Eve Uni would have called upon some allies to bail them out if they really couldn't hold their own. [ |

Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:55:00 -
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Ok, the way I remember this:
TRAPS decced a corp which promptly went and joined Eve University in order to hide behind a massive blob. Said blob materialized, prompting TRAPS to counter it by joining Privateers. A lot of smack erupted from the IVY-fanbois about how Privateers where going to get 'pwned'. After five weeks of war, IVY is falling apart, and said smacking fanbois are now crying for help on the forums.
Did I miss anything?
Bottom line: Don't let corps join that are wardecced unless you are 100% certain you can outlive the war.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Tommy Foofoo
Caldari Molden Heath Gentlemen's Society
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Posted - 2008.05.17 14:58:00 -
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TLDR Version:
Give me some money and I pinky-swear to send it to Eve University.
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Ok, the way I remember this:
TRAPS decced a corp which promptly went and joined Eve University in order to hide behind a massive blob. Said blob materialized, prompting TRAPS to counter it by joining Privateers. A lot of smack erupted from the IVY-fanbois about how Privateers where going to get 'pwned'. After five weeks of war, IVY is falling apart, and said smacking fanbois are now crying for help on the forums.
Did I miss anything?
Bottom line: Don't let corps join that are wardecced unless you are 100% certain you can outlive the war.
HEY! Don't be all cluttering up this thread with real facts here mate!
You're runing all the fun 
Hooch, you want the truth?
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

Silentbrick
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:12:00 -
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Just to set a few things straight....
We are currently still winning by our killboard, the Uni isn't falling apart and we have not asked our allies for help or brought the war to the attention of CAOD on purpose. While yes, alot of our industrialist, mission runner and miner types of students left, the hard core of PVP pilots remains. Classes are still taught, though with a PVP focus and despite the futile attempts of infiltrators to cause dissension, morale is up.
So, if it is your desire to help Eve University in some way, then I suggest that you contact us in game through our Diplomats: Dierdra Vaal and Shalroth to name a couple and talk with them on ways to help if that's your wish.
As always, Alliance members are not to post on this Forum via mains or alts, as it only feeds the sub-humans like BC Hastings and his pack of trolls. They simply aren't worth the effort and smack talk has no value.
Silentbrick Fleet Admiral, Ivy League Deranged Carebear
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Sionide
Minmatar THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Ok, the way I remember this:
TRAPS decced a corp which promptly went and joined Eve University in order to hide behind a massive blob. Said blob materialized, prompting TRAPS to counter it by joining Privateers. A lot of smack erupted from the IVY-fanbois about how Privateers where going to get 'pwned'. After five weeks of war, IVY is falling apart, and said smacking fanbois are now crying for help on the forums.
Did I miss anything?
Seems about right as far as I know.
Can't believe the OP missed this in his/her "research."
=== In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Silentbrick
As always, Alliance members are not to post on this Forum via mains or alts, as it only feeds the sub-humans like BC Hastings and his pack of trolls. They simply aren't worth the effort and smack talk has no value.
Silentbrick Fleet Admiral, Ivy League Deranged Carebear
the drama continues....
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:33:00 -
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I thought I read Zelota. I was wrong.
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:43:00 -
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ôThere is no reason to my deccing of Uni. There is no pretense of deccing them because such and such died in low sec. at their hands. I could care less. I decced them because I wanted to. I decced them because I can. Let's not clutter all this with crap that never happenedö Actually, evidence suggest you are contradicting yourself, if you refer back to previous post explaining your position on why the war was going ahead it explains you did it because of a broken NAP, therefore you are lying. (I would post link but I couldnÆt find it at this time)
ôOh and as for not negotiating with Ivy before I decced them. I don't negotiate. I make demandsö Ok, you make ôdemandsö. Well if Eve University are happy to accept your ôdemandsö is that also know as negotiating? You make demands then donÆt allow them to be accepted?
ôIf Eve wants to blame someone then blame me. It's my fault. I am the privateer managementö At least you can admit your own faults; good to know youÆre a man about something.
ôYou never have contacted me and we have no diplomatsö You are right about me selecting ôdiplomatö as the wrong word, I should have changed that to Privateer Alliance contact. But saying I never contacted you is simply no true, I have logs proving otherwise which I will happily post if you like?
ôIf pilots revealed to you that they are unhappy have no obligation to stay with the allianceö That is true, but so is the fact two of your member corps have recently left because of this issue. Like it or not, its FACT.
ôIf you are totally behind the IVY Join them and we will kill you toö I do not pretend I am a good pvper, I simply play this game to trade but donÆt get me wrong I will be using the player donations to fund mercs who are better fighters than yourself. DonÆt believe me? Look at the Atomic battle penguin / omniscient order kill board statistics. Expect at least 5 + weeks of fighting with them as you have done to Eve University.
ôRespectfullyö Pfff, I hope your next S**T is a hedgehog. |

NoNameNewbie
Caldari Raynor Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock I thought I read Zelota. I was wrong.
aye .o> same here :D
i miss his posts :s
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:52:00 -
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As for the rest of the Privateer Alliance posts, I expected as much from you! You belittle the original points conveyed and force people into childish smack talk matches. Most of EVE agree with me when I say, CanÆt you just find some quiet place to die?
ôSub-humans like BC Hastings and his pack of trolls. They simply aren't worth the effort and smack talk has no valueö
Well put Silentbrick, I couldnÆt agree more. Good to see you standing up for yourself!
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Mr. Orange
Gallente Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota This war is literally crippling Eve University! Hundreds of new players have left (not only the University but EVE itself), billions of ISK has been lost, teaching schedules ruined, FC and other top figureheads leaving! They are on their last legs and in desperate need of your support! I personally cannot believe this has been allowed to happen, such a great organisation forged for new players out of good/wanting to help the community. Privateers are scum for doing this!Would you con a charity for money in real life? NO, so why do it here?
I propose a fund for Eve University; donate what you can (however small). I will act as an honest 3rd party financial holder for the donations, working with Eve University to arrange ships, modules, mercenary support and whatever else is needed to keep them going until the war has blown over. DonÆt stand by and let this amazing organisation disappear from EVE due to some primitive empire piratesà
Thank you for your support.
Nice scam attempt there Zealota, you sure put enough effort into this lil post here. Bit of reverse psych to get people sending you isk.

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The PitBoss
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: zealota With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
I TOTALLY agree ... I've lost all respect AFTER week 2 ... I'm sick of upper levels making me wear this dress DURING extended gate camps ... I WILL NOT sit in Hooch's lap anymore WHILE pvping 
Thanks,
PB
Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox |

Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:16:00 -
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"Hey, look at me, i can bully some newbies for more than 4 weeks straight!"
Does any of you have any idea how ridiculous you look? 
EVE History Wiki
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OVERCOPES 1
Amarr B.D.S.M. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota As for the rest of the Privateer Alliance posts, I expected as much from you! You belittle the original points conveyed and force people into childish smack talk matches. Most of EVE agree with me when I say, CanÆt you just find some quiet place to die?
ôSub-humans like BC Hastings and his pack of trolls. They simply aren't worth the effort and smack talk has no valueö
Well put Silentbrick, I couldnÆt agree more. Good to see you standing up for yourself!
We force no-one into smack talk. Provide proof that most of eve agree with you. We belittle you because we can,go hire some more mercs.
And some chat logs would be nice also,y'know so not to make out your some b**ls$%%er or anything.
Technolisa>those yellow things work better than platinum insurance :P |

ishkabibble
Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:45:00 -
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OP is looking at this all wrong, and if this is the sentiment of Eve university they they are foolish.
A wardec shortens the learning curve for your noobies, you should be thanking privateers for speeding up the learning process.
Just sayin NYC gets Rick Roll'd |

Arbelia Amarsa
Duchy of Amarsa
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Posted - 2008.05.17 16:47:00 -
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See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already. ----------------------------------------
Duchy of Amarsa Royalty has its perks. |

The Jackhammer
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa ... put a cap on them already.
ALREADY been there ... Clicky
Cry for us some more .. MAYBE they'll change thier own rules again to accomodate you ... ADAPT -or- LOSE ... We did .... 
Thank-You,
The Jackhammer
Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
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Sionide
Minmatar THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:04:00 -
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I guess you people who feel sorry for Eve Uni fail to read the post that described what happened (it's on the first page).
So let me repeat: TRAPS war decced some noob corp (as they are known to do), that noob corp joined Eve Uni hoping for someone to hide behind. Eve Uni accepted them knowing full well that they were accepting a corp that was being war decced. Thus, Eve Uni are the ones responsible for THEIR actions, and no one else.
Ofc the small pirate corp of TRAPS were no match for Eve Uni and they posted on this forum perhaps for help? (I know cause I posted in that thread). I believe TRAPS used to be in the Privateers Alliance back in the day, so they had good relations with them. Privateers then answered TRAPS call for help.
Eve Uni are the ones that got themselves into this problem, and I have no sympathy for them. Don't get me wrong, I think what Eve Uni does is a great thing and a great service to the Eve community; but that is not an excuse for them not being accountable for THEIR actions. If they just stayed out of other people's business and did their own thing, they would not be in this situation. If they want to play the hero, then they need to face all that comes with that responsibility.
=== In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An Ok, the way I remember this:
TRAPS decced a corp which promptly went and joined Eve University in order to hide behind a massive blob. Said blob materialized, prompting TRAPS to counter it by joining Privateers. A lot of smack erupted from the IVY-fanbois about how Privateers where going to get 'pwned'. After five weeks of war, IVY is falling apart, and said smacking fanbois are now crying for help on the forums.
Did I miss anything?
Bottom line: Don't let corps join that are wardecced unless you are 100% certain you can outlive the war.
yeah ivy is falling apart that's why privs used a spy to suicide a multibillion isk faction ship to raise their morale.
Did i miss anything?
please, get your facts right before you try smacking, you're an utter embarrasment.
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already.
Goonswarm I believe does far more for new players getting into 0.0 and PvP, yet you don't support them?
Privateers has been capped, this is why we choose Eve-Uni, they at least undock and fight now and then which is much more than many other alliances stuck in the train of thought that PvP only occurs in 0.0 where they can drop 3 motherships and a couple of titans on any tresspassers.
Originally by: Zealota With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
You do not understand the Privateer Alliance. Unlike most alliances, we're all only here because we're allied in one common goal, this is unconventional to say the least - most opt for joining noddy alliance #3976321 - take a look at how alliances often fall apart, Triumvirate is the most recent example - an alliance ripped apart by infighting born from differing goals and apparently a modicum of greed. Privateers is simple, as a pilot I don't need to respect anybody so long as I can remain at least civil, the choices are simply, you can either like it, lump it or leave - there is no board of directors, alliance council or anything that involves pontificating clunks trying to exert their influence in alliance direction. We don't even have a diplomat as diplomacy is not a necessity. Likewise any of us are able to offer suggestions to those in charge and they can either agree or ignore it and that's the end of the matter. Saves a lot of clunking around to be honest.
As for Eve-University teaching new players how to fight, I disagree. They teach people to fight with a blob and to match each enemy ship with at least one dedicated EW ship plus the rest. Take a look at the general consensus of opinion concerning how combat is performed typically in 0.0 and maybe you will start to agree that taking Eve-University and their school of thought out of the equation could only be a good thing for Eve as a whole. That isn't to say that Privateers will do that, Eve-Uni is in no danger at all, you're claims that they are heading for disaster is melodramatic balloonary at it's best.
Thunk
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X3k5
Amarr Brotherhood of the Phoenix Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota
I propose a fund for Eve University; donate what you can (however small). I will act as an honest 3rd party financial holder for the donations
God! Is there anything ppl dont try to scam out of. The lower ppl go, the more I hate them. Zealota, u are now -10 to me. Anyone who is concerned for the Uni, DONT send this guy ISK. If you wanna donate, donate straight to the Uni.
And as far as I hear, Uni is doing just fine by itself. They brought this upon themselves and they dont need ur help, they dont need ur pity and they most definitely dont need your smack so stop posting in this thread. The End.
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sionide I guess you people who feel sorry for Eve Uni fail to read the post that described what happened (it's on the first page).
So let me repeat: TRAPS war decced some noob corp (as they are known to do), that noob corp joined Eve Uni hoping for someone to hide behind. Eve Uni accepted them knowing full well that they were accepting a corp that was being war decced. Thus, Eve Uni are the ones responsible for THEIR actions, and no one else.
Ofc the small pirate corp of TRAPS were no match for Eve Uni and they posted on this forum perhaps for help? (I know cause I posted in that thread). I believe TRAPS used to be in the Privateers Alliance back in the day, so they had good relations with them. Privateers then answered TRAPS call for help.
Eve Uni are the ones that got themselves into this problem, and I have no sympathy for them. Don't get me wrong, I think what Eve Uni does is a great thing and a great service to the Eve community; but that is not an excuse for them not being accountable for THEIR actions. If they just stayed out of other people's business and did their own thing, they would not be in this situation. If they want to play the hero, then they need to face all that comes with that responsibility.
you'll not find one post from eve uni or their alts asking for help for this war. Because they really don't need it. The op is plainly a scammer (!) and is **** stirring cos let's face it eve uni and wardecs is a touchy subject and easily sets a ***** fight off. But your right, it was actually traps who whined for help and privs, who had been screwing about with the uni long before the wardec began for real (I recall one strange attempt where a privs alt applied to join and then started inviting privs into a convo with a recuitment officier, trying to get a fight going, lmfao) that used it as an excuse to wardec, cos they desperately needed targets.
that said yeah, eve uni accepting a wardecced corp (err hello neutrality!) was asking for it lol.
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: The Hooch on 17/05/2008 18:00:36
Quote: "Hey, look at me, i can bully some newbies for more than 4 weeks straight!"
Does any of you have any idea how ridiculous you look?
And do you know how little we happen to care or how good threads like this help us?
Keep them coming!
The best part is, the cost of re-newing the dec is just 150 million, now that is a bargin! Hooch
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 18:06:00 -
[41]
Originally by: The PitBoss
Originally by: zealota With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
I TOTALLY agree ... I've lost all respect AFTER week 2 ... I'm sick of upper levels making me wear this dress DURING extended gate camps ... I WILL NOT sit in Hooch's lap anymore WHILE pvping 
Shaddup, you like it and you know it 
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

Joachim Kato
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2008.05.17 18:39:00 -
[42]
Don't worry - EVE Uni gonna blob their way through.... 
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.05.17 19:14:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Viqtoria
yeah ivy is falling apart that's why privs used a spy to suicide a multibillion isk faction ship to raise their morale.
Did i miss anything?
please, get your facts right before you try smacking, you're an utter embarrasment.
Pardon me for not caring enough about Eve University to not take the OPs statement as the truth. I freely admit, I know almost nothing about the University, except that they have an undeserved high reputation among the community. They teach nothing but carebear stuff. The so called 'pvp' they teach is all blobbing. That's not doing the game a service.
Btw, why don't you post with your Eve University main? Your comments are gonna get snipped since you're in a noob corp.
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Decobian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.17 19:17:00 -
[44]
Its sad but its Eve and Eve is a cold hostile world. Ivy does have alot of pilotsd thuogh there no reason why they cant just gank the privateers back
If they can only kill noobs then fare enuf I suppose, tbh the only way your gonna stop it is if about 5 or 6 other allaicnes dec privateers back and constantly gank em till they get bored and give up the wardec.
Either way the new players are gonna loose out in the mean time. and there n00bp33n is gonna keep on growing heh
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overcorpse
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:31:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Decobian Its sad but its Eve and Eve is a cold hostile world. Ivy does have alot of pilotsd thuogh there no reason why they cant just gank the privateers back
If they can only kill noobs then fare enuf I suppose, tbh the only way your gonna stop it is if about 5 or 6 other allaicnes dec privateers back and constantly gank em till they get bored and give up the wardec.
Either way the new players are gonna loose out in the mean time. and there n00bp33n is gonna keep on growing heh
Must be awesome to be able to type with your elbows.
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Bloodlet Eyes
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:36:00 -
[46]
EVE Uni should consider hiring a merc corp if tey are unable to defend them selfs. More over if EVE Uni pilots were to join merc lead ops, they would be furthering thier mcuh needed education.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:40:00 -
[47]
The uni brought it upon themselves, when they absorbed LOLS they lost all rights to proclaim themselves as a non-hostile neutral entity.
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:43:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Grarr Dexx The uni brought it upon themselves, when they absorbed LOLS they lost all rights to proclaim themselves as a non-hostile neutral entity.
yeh but why do you have a captcha image for a sig?
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 20:59:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already.
check killboards and wardecs before you make stuff up ;]
and speaking of 'easy ganks'. that's what 90% of eve population is looking for. the 'we won't engage untill we can outblob you' policy has been employed by many alliances and corps alike.
also, privateers have a very simple philosophy. empire war fun. eve uni will at least get a taste of high sec pew pew before they move on.
too many people take piloting spaceships too seriously. it's not like you're gonna die if you get podded =)
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Cordran Li
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:00:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa See this is again a case where CCP devs "epic fail" to use common sense. The game mechanics are one thing, but letting one group of players grief one of your best game cash cows (ei EVE University, that draws in and keeps multitudes of new players) is just foolish. At some point CCP has to draw lines and protect new players whether they are in a corp or not. Privateers, many of them, are just losers in the game looking for easy "ganks" so they are ruining the game for others and CCP is losing money because of it. Privateer alliance has always been a lose lose thing for EVE, put a cap on them already.
So Eve players are still upset about T20 helping out BOB for some reason, and you want CCP to "help" Eve Uni? Seems like a double standard.
Also Eve Uni isn't CCP's cash cow, it's an in game alliance and therefore is part of the game. CCP must and does treat Eve Uni as every other alliance in the game. They only train people, maybe they get a few people to actually join Eve, but probably not many.
Eve Uni will die eventually, whether it's from this war (probably not but that would be cool) or, more likely, from the passage of time. Will you say CCP has "epic failed" because they didn't have a game mechanic that forces people to constantly play?
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Tommy Foofoo
Caldari Molden Heath Gentlemen's Society
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:37:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Ki An Pardon me for not caring enough about Eve University to not take the OPs statement as the truth. I freely admit, I know almost nothing about the University, except that they have an undeserved high reputation among the community. They teach nothing but carebear stuff. The so called 'pvp' they teach is all blobbing. That's not doing the game a service.
I don't think that's quite right. Blobbing is what they do, not necessarily what they teach. TBH I can't see that they'd have ever gotten that high reputation in the first place, if they didn't give noobs at least a bit of "proper" PvP training.
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.17 21:56:00 -
[52]
I think its hilarious privateers come on here sprouting how uber they are podding noobs when our small gang made 2 tempest logofski in rens after station hugging for awhile. So sick of you anti-social life failures projecting and spewing your trash over destroying a few caracals. For that reason alone you will be looked at as a joke and only a minor annoyance with anyone with some pvp skills.
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:04:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Reverand Pastor I think its hilarious privateers come on here sprouting how uber they are podding noobs when our small gang made 2 tempest logofski in rens after station hugging for awhile. So sick of you anti-social life failures projecting and spewing your trash over destroying a few caracals. For that reason alone you will be looked at as a joke and only a minor annoyance with anyone with some pvp skills.
lol, please check your own killboard first =)
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:13:00 -
[54]
Check kb? wtf does that have to do with anything i said. if anything you are making my argument for me. We are fighting 6 alliances all with very good pvp experience compared to you guys podding 2 week old toons in ibis's check the kb;s indeed...
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Lea Re
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:32:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Reverand Pastor Check kb? wtf does that have to do with anything i said. if anything you are making my argument for me. We are fighting 6 alliances all with very good pvp experience compared to you guys podding 2 week old toons in ibis's check the kb;s indeed...
hehe, you know there is a search function on a lot of killboards, don't you ? =) use it please.
i'm not here to troll or flame or however else it's called nowadays. i actually checked your wardecs and killboards before replying to your post. so please do the same and back your posts up with facts =)
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Reverand Pastor
Caldari Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.17 22:42:00 -
[56]
byez o/
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Jelena Jinx
Gallente Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2008.05.17 23:13:00 -
[57]
woosh.. some spaceships got ganked and killed.... omg.. skyes are falling.
tbh privs have very good wars while fighting ivy. like atomic battle penguins, tri(before it collapsed), itrepid, -v-, etc etc... some of them currently running also.
im not here to defend privs... as my main is in there also :P.. ill now just enjoy the smack and trashtalk... :D
PS: yes im posting whit an alt...
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The Jackhammer
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:10:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Reverand Pastor ... We are fighting 6 alliances ....

Your carebear tears are delicious ... thank you ... i was hungry
BTW we have 4-6 wars weekly on average ...
its called MULTI TASKING 
Thank-You,
The Jackhammer
Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
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Cyriel Longinus
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:50:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Zealota Fellow pilots, It has recently come to my attention after a short break from the game that ôPrivateer Allianceö has unjustifiably declared war on Eve University. They need your helpà Continuedà
The history between Hooch and EvE-Uni was pretty well documented. For a long time The Privateers did not condone targeting the EvE-Uni because of the reputation of being of an organization dedicated to new EvE Players. However, the EvE-Uni continued to provoke Privateers. So Hooch lifted the immunity.
As a long time support and admirer of what the EvE University once was, a organization who's passion was to involve and train new player on how to EvE, I'm going to say this once...
The passion that was the E-Uni is gone. Unfortunately, Morning Maniac is no longer the guiding influence. The present directorship is beyond lost and abuses the sympathy card.
I really don't give a dam who shoots the Eve University. They behave like and have proven to be qaulity targets. When the situation gets out of control, they call in and spin the sympathy card.
If anyone doubts what I have just said, create a new character, join the E-Uni and see for yourself.
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:51:00 -
[60]
So I got half way through and this is what I read:
Eve Uni wannabe/alt: blah blah blarg blah blah isk to me blah blah pffft
Hooch: Look at me in the pretty pretty dress!
BC: Hey Eve Uni, BLOW ME!
Thousands of carebears: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Privateer Members: Hey everyone, look! Carebear tears! nomnomnomnomnom
Eve Uni FC: blah blah we will win blah blah morale hi blah blah
eve community: who gives a rats ass?
Yeah...that about sums it up. stop looking for reasons you little fish turds, and play the game. This isn't the U.N. and it isn't Politics:Online Its a damn internet spaceship game, and just because someon shoots you doesn't mean anything. It's pixels you little veldspar fairy, so get som better pixels and play the game, or do the world a favor and unplugg your computer and throw it out the window.
tl;dr version: get bent _____________________________
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Berand
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:54:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Frayen So I got half way through and this is what I read:
Eve Uni wannabe/alt: blah blah blarg blah blah isk to me blah blah pffft
Hooch: Look at me in the pretty pretty dress!
BC: Hey Eve Uni, BLOW ME!
Thousands of carebears: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Privateer Members: Hey everyone, look! Carebear tears! nomnomnomnomnom
Eve Uni FC: blah blah we will win blah blah morale hi blah blah
eve community: who gives a rats ass?
Yeah...that about sums it up. stop looking for reasons you little fish turds, and play the game. This isn't the U.N. and it isn't Politics:Online Its a damn internet spaceship game, and just because someon shoots you doesn't mean anything. It's pixels you little veldspar fairy, so get som better pixels and play the game, or do the world a favor and unplugg your computer and throw it out the window.
tl;dr version: get bent
Wow, nerd rage :shock:
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 00:57:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Berand Wow, nerd rage :shock:
Naw, BC pays me per post. I am broke so I came here for the iskies. _____________________________
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:05:00 -
[63]
Hey, lay off the dress. Besides Da'Fuzz from BoB says I look cute in it.

Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:07:00 -
[64]
MY BANTAM WAS FITTED WITH:
Mining Laser Upgrade I Co-Processor II
Civilian Shield Booster I Civilian Shield Booster I
Miner II Miner II
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x1
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:29:00 -
[65]
Frayen, I find your lack of morals disturbing and has been petitioned as such. I do not petition you based on this event alone as I have numerous records of your vulgar un-pleasantries and witty banter from local chat logs supplied to me from Eve University, despite their ônon talking in local policyö. You explain itÆs only a game; well in that case you should be mature about it, yet you encourage "smack talk" in local towards new players? What impression do you think this gives them? Do you think its possible you can offend people with your actions despite it being a game? Maybe you are the one that should grow. |

Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:33:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Zealota Frayen, I find your lack of morals disturbing and has been petitioned as such. I do not petition you based on this event alone as I have numerous records of your vulgar un-pleasantries and witty banter from local chat logs supplied to me from Eve University, despite their ônon talking in local policyö. You explain itÆs only a game; well in that case you should be mature about it, yet you encourage "smack talk" in local towards new players? What impression do you think this gives them? Do you think its possible you can offend people with your actions despite it being a game? Maybe you are the one that should grow.
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my own awesomeness.
Please send more petitions. I need to skill a few more lvl 5 skills. _____________________________
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:41:00 -
[67]
On a side note, 4billion ISK has been raised thus far thanks to the fantastic efforts of players. Thank you for your continuing support, Eve University are finally getting the help they need. I personally have donated 1billion ISK and a vast amount of ECM ship to their cause so far. I encourage all players to dig deep that havenÆt yet and donate what ever you can to them, be it through Eve University directly or myself. Also, I thank all those people that mailed me in game with kind words of encouragement regarding the matter; I was touched by the vast amount I received. Good to know I far from stand alone on thisà
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:43:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Frayen on 18/05/2008 01:43:17
Originally by: Zealota On a side note, 4billion ISK has been raised thus far thanks to the fantastic efforts of players. Thank you for your continuing support, Eve University are finally getting the help they need. I personally have donated 1billion ISK and a vast amount of ECM ship to their cause so far. I encourage all players to dig deep that havenÆt yet and donate what ever you can to them, be it through Eve University directly or myself. Also, I thank all those people that mailed me in game with kind words of encouragement regarding the matter; I was touched by the vast amount I received. Good to know I far from stand alone on thisà
Nice haul for your scam. So we split it 50% like we decided at the BBQ? _____________________________
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The PitBoss
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:46:00 -
[69]
*** NEWS FLASH ***
During an EMERGENCY meeting of the Privateer alliance counsul ...
FRAYEN of Banned of the Damned has been unanimously voted as Head Diplomat
PLEASE refer all matters of diplomacy with Privateer Alliance to:
FRAYEN
Thanks,
PB
Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox |

Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:47:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Zealota I was touchedà
Want to touch me? I promise I won't leave too bad a taste in your mouth. _____________________________
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:53:00 -
[71]
Frayen I give up with you. You childish ways do nothing but prove my point and provide more evidence of you smack talking evil tendencies. You are brining this ban on yourself; I hope you have set your racial carrier skill to level 5. Maybe maturity level 5 would be a better one if you could get access to the skillà
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:56:00 -
[72]
isk sent.
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:02:00 -
[73]
1) When I simply asked you to provide me with 2 kills from your kill board suggesting this statement to be true, you explained to me that I should ôF**K Offö and ôStay out of your businessö. After intensive investigation of my own I could not find ONE kill suggesting an unprovoked attack, yet Eve University provided me 3 kill mails within 15minutes of me asking, proving you had been attacking them in low sec during the NAP and long before all of your ôsupposedö events. Did they declare war on you? Did they even batter an eyelid? Did they give you the benefit of the doubt?
This is a real whooper. Chat logs can be forged easy enough and trust me he never did any of this anyway.
2) After interviewing numerous pilots within the Privateer Alliance more then half explained to me that not only did you never engage in active negotiations with Eve University (which they would have happily condoned/preferred to resolve the non existent matter) but you did it out from lack of ôwar targetsö at the time due to a ôdry spellö then proceeded to cover this up with propaganda of ôunprovokedö attacks. The same pilots that revealed this truth to me also told me they strongly disagreed with the war and regret the leaders poor decision-making.
OMG, they have been all over me to take off the gloves and nail them, when I tried to let the war drop they damn near lynched me.
3) Eve University have told me they are willing to listen to your demands and even negotiate with you to bring a swift end to this pointless war, therefore, if you were willing to ônegotiateö ôto simply resolve the matter by talkö at the build-up to this war, why now do you persist in ignore a summoning of leaders to iron out the problems?
ItÆs not a pointless war, this is what we do after all, rather well I might add.
With over half of Privateer Alliances members lacking respect and support for their leaders this strongly suggest to me that the Alliance decision makers within privateers need to resign and someone with more vision, honesty and diplomatic skill implemented immediately.
Load of crap, they love BC (heavens know why)
I fully back Eve University on this matter, what reason what they have to lie? I have heard and reviewed stories/evidence from both parties that suggested they were telling the truth. I couldnÆt determine the reason for the Privateer AllianceÆs consistent belief in its lies, but I do know I have recently lost all respect for them.
You never had any respect, and you are running a damn fine scam. Raised 4 billion and gave them 1? Yaaa rightà
ContinuedàThis war is literally crippling Eve University! Hundreds of new players have left (not only the University but EVE itself), billions of ISK has been lost, teaching schedules ruined, FC and other top figureheads leaving! They are on their last legs and in desperate need of your support! I personally cannot believe this has been allowed to happen, such a great organisation forged for new players out of good/wanting to help the community. Privateers are scum for doing this! Would you con a charity for money in real life? NO, so why do it here?
Short answer, this is a game of PvP so please keep the rl crap out.
I propose a fund for Eve University; donate what you can (however small). I will act as an honest 3rd party financial holder for the donations, working with Eve University to arrange ships, modules, mercenary support and whatever else is needed to keep them going until the war has blown over. DonÆt stand by and let this amazing organisation disappear from EVE due to some primitive empire piratesà
Best Scam Ever!
What a load...
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:02:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Zealota Frayen I give up with you. You childish ways do nothing but prove my point and provide more evidence of you smack talking evil tendencies. You are brining this ban on yourself; I hope you have set your racial carrier skill to level 5. Maybe maturity level 5 would be a better one if you could get access to the skillà
It's Your. If you are going to try to type to me, atleast have the intelligence to do it in proper english.
your bringing
And the sad part of this is, how can a toon in an NPC corp petition in a forum where it isn't even allowed to post? _____________________________
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The PitBoss
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:03:00 -
[75]
isk sent
Thanks,
PB
Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox |

Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:06:00 -
[76]
isk sent _____________________________
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:11:00 -
[77]
Ok, after reading this a bit more I have come to one conclusion......
BC, stop using your alt to troll me. Or did you let Hooch use the account? Man, you are confusing the hell out of me.
But seriously, we are spliting the isk from this scam right BC? _____________________________
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Legend Slayer
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:33:00 -
[78]
I'm just ticked at myself that I didn't think of this isk scam first.  But I would like to be cut in for a small percentage, since the war seem to be very profitable for you.
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:00:00 -
[79]
Firstly, this is not a scam. If you have any quarrels or doubts of my characters legitimacy, please feel fee to contact me in game to discuss the matters at hand. I would even be willing to chat with you on teamspeak or vent. Frayen, you have no evidence to suggest this is a scam so stop making assumptions. With regard the spelling, yes I made a few mistakes, have you never made a few innocent spelling errors before? Did it really require a post about?
BC Hastings, within the last hour I have been contacted by one of your highly ranked members, ôWash SFC3ö who requested I keen his name anonymous but I think it is time to name and shame to prove to you that your members have no respect for you or your leadership abilities.
After a long discussion on teamspeak with this chap, firstly he is one of the more decent Privateers I have had the chance to engage in conversation with, friendly, honest and respectful. Secondly he explained to me in all honesty that from his view point, if Eve University and I did hire out mercenary forces such as ôABPö and ôOmni-orderö for a war declaration period of 5 + weeks he felt Privateer Alliance would literally collapse and be ôshut downö for good. As a top member of your Alliance I trust his statement is the truth.
Therefore, as I am not a heartless individual, I propose to you the following: 1. Retract the war with Eve University immediately. 2. Pay Eve University ISK to cover their entire losses thus far (3billion ISK + to date). 3. A formal letter of apology to Eve University and a public apology for you inhumane actions.
As you consider yourself a ôterroristö I will explain this to you in a way only your primitive mind can comprehend. If my demands are not carried out after 24 hours from this post expect massive retaliation and your Alliance to fade into the shadows as nothing more than a memory. You have been warnedà
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Hitesugo
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:03:00 -
[80]
Space Pimp Industries is Taking Donations to war deck Eve University. For being idiots and complain to much about the war against them.
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The Hooch
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:09:00 -
[81]
friendly, honest and respectful
That certainly was not Wash and trust me if last years' nerf did not kill us you certainly will not. Now please step away from the *****pipe.
Hooch
Concord punishes people, it does not protect them |

Wash Sfc3
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:11:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Wash Sfc3 on 18/05/2008 03:11:35 WTF are serious you effing jackass. Anyone who knows me would laff their ass off at your description of me. Just because I think your an Ivy alt its time to make the pain intensify. Hope Ivy enjoys a perma dec.
what a Tard.
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:11:00 -
[83]
how many times did your parents drop you on your head when you were little. Or did your daddy just not love you enough? or maybe too much......  _____________________________
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The PitBoss
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:15:00 -
[84]
I personally believe you .. thank you for the heads up
Thanks,
PB
Siggys and Banners by: Kalen Vox |

Baku Canal
Baku Canal Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:20:00 -
[85]
Another EPIC!! Privateers vs Eve University thread.
Can we never get enough?
פ ר ש נ ו ר ע ב ת ן ש ב ד ב ש נ ת ב ע ר ו נ ש ר ף
 CEO and Lead Diplomat of BNC BNC: Where your dreams come true!
Baku Canal
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Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:24:00 -
[86]
This thread is so counter productive I just can't help feeling the OP is actually a PRIV alt.
That or he's just some great clunk, clowning around like some great balloon.
Thunk
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:29:00 -
[87]
Wash, I realise you wished to remain anonymous and I apologise for dragging you into the discussion this way but stop being too faced about it. I know what you said; you know what you said, so why lie about it at this stage? I laugh at your supposed ôperma decö from the information you have revealed to me, we both know Privateers will not last long enough to affect Eve University anymore then what they currently have, especially when massive scale war has broken out with the sole purpose to destroy your pathetic Alliance.
Hooch your insults are shocking, they do not even give me reason to second glance them! Try harder you old swine. On the other hand FrayenÆs insults infuriate me, players should not be allowed to get away with this grotesque language, even if it is only a game, I am calmed by the fact you have an impending ban, enjoy you game time while it lastsà
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Baku Canal
Baku Canal Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:32:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Zealota Wash, I realise you wished to remain anonymous and I apologise for dragging you into the discussion this way but stop being too faced about it. I know what you said; you know what you said, so why lie about it at this stage? I laugh at your supposed ôperma decö from the information you have revealed to me, we both know Privateers will not last long enough to affect Eve University anymore then what they currently have, especially when massive scale war has broken out with the sole purpose to destroy your pathetic Alliance.
Hooch your insults are shocking, they do not even give me reason to second glance them! Try harder you old swine. On the other hand FrayenÆs insults infuriate me, players should not be allowed to get away with this grotesque language, even if it is only a game, I am calmed by the fact you have an impending ban, enjoy you game time while it lastsà
i think that NPC corp characters arent supposed to post in caod or something
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Frayen
Gallente Band of the Damned Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zealota FrayenÆs insults infuriate me, players should not be allowed to get away with this grotesque language, even if it is only a game, I am calmed by the fact you have an impending ban, enjoy you game time while it lastsà
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Kurt Adams
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 04:00:00 -
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Zealota, your attempts at deception are futile as Wash was in TS with the rest of us at the time, and he advised us of your lame chat comments for our amusement as you posted them. Even if that had not been the case, your statements go so far beyond plausibility that I do not know why you bothered to make them. Did you really think this would cause some sort of discord in our (very loose) organization?
If you knew anything about Privateers you would realize that a ômassive scale warö is exactly what we want. PVP is the whole point of being in privateers so we always want to increase the number of war targets.
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Hitesugo
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Posted - 2008.05.18 06:05:00 -
[91]
Give us targets more targets so keep the donations comeing almost enough to war dec Eve University. and thank you to all that have already donated
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Raffael Ramirez
Caldari Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.18 07:35:00 -
[92]
So is it Hooch or Zealota i send the isk to prolong the war ?
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Viqtoria
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.18 07:45:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Raffael Ramirez So is it Hooch or Zealota i send the isk to prolong the war ?
it's me, i'm the reliable 4th party.
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OVERCOPES 1
Amarr B.D.S.M. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 07:53:00 -
[94]
Are the mods on strike?
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Jelena Jinx
Gallente Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2008.05.18 10:47:00 -
[95]
this is the most epic misleading thread ever about this war :P
total full of fail and win at the same time :P
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Zealota
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.05.18 11:36:00 -
[96]
Give meh MOAR monyez!
Time to come clean. I am a freelance mercenary journalist, a spinster if you will, originally hired by Eve University to rally support against Privateer Alliance. My agreed contract was to post mild propaganda reflecting badly on Privateers therefore gaining Eve University sympathy within the EVE community. I happily accepted the contract based on 100mill ISK up front and 100mill ISK after my propaganda post had been written, submitted to ôSlientbrickö for final inspection and signed off for being posted on the forums.
Eve University honoured the first part of the bargain in giving me 100mill ISK up front, but after I had compiled the propaganda post and submitted it to them for inspection they simply kept the post I had written and told me my services were no longed needed. I was backstabbed! I was enormously angry with them for not withholding their original agreement and to stop them from using the post, I decided to quickly post it myself before they could do so with one of their alts.
The original post was up to the line ôI have recently lost all respect for themö the rest was extra I added simply to make a mockery out of Eve University for attempting to play the sympathy card to the community. They are not as innocent as they have everyone believe and far from the neutral entity they for so long have claimed to be! Believe it or not I was investigating matters and evidence for this war thus allowing my to write you a semi-believable picture for the propaganda post and what I discovered was that Eve University did inadvertently start this war with Privateers with way of their hostile actions towards TRAPS. They were well aware of the consequences it enticed. There the truth is out, Eve University consider us now even. You kicked my dog and I kicked yours. The loss of your reputation within the community will be devastating, why? All because you failed to pay me a mere 100mill ISK like we agreed in my contract. PATHETIC!
The part about accepting donations was entirely dishonest and posted for my own amusement as a reminder of how backstabbing and dishonest our supposed ôneutralö ôplayer focusedö ôhelpfulö alliance actually is, not to mention I saw an easy opportunity to make some much needed ISK for trading, as I was broke (I still am broke, please send me ISK for my troubles/if I made you laugh/gave you some amusement).
Frayen won this thread; his summations of events were that of a person who never forgets this is only a game, which many seem to forget!
If you would like to hire me and use my services within your alliance my rates start at; 100mill ISK for deceptive posts and 150mill ISK for honest/factual posts (bit extra as its harder for me to be honest). All research to complete the job effectively is done for free and anonymously. My previous contracts include: ôGoonswarmö and ôEve Universityö 
That is all...
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Vintu
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.18 12:06:00 -
[97]
people post bull**** on this forum every minute of every day....and now they wanna be paid for it? 
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DragonDao
Swiper Fox Holdings
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Posted - 2008.05.18 12:45:00 -
[98]
You are all WRONG.
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Silentbrick
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:15:00 -
[99]
This sort of crap is why we stay off this forum. For those of you unable to think for yourselves, let it be known that we paid no one anything, especially not the OP. So no, we have nothing to do with this. And no, there's no vows of Dire Revenge <TM>. Why? Cause frankly I couldn't be arsed to bother. If I can tune out my 4 year old niece, ignoring this place is a piece of cake.
And by the way, since I suspect this was another Priv publicity stunt, which Priv is the OP? The students have a betting pool going on who.
Right now favorites are Wash and Frayen.
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Patri Andari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:18:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Zealota Give meh MOAR monyez!
Time to come clean. I am a freelance mercenary journalist, a spinster if you will, originally hired by Eve University to rally support against Privateer Alliance. My agreed contract was to post mild propaganda reflecting badly on Privateers therefore gaining Eve University sympathy within the EVE community. I happily accepted the contract based on 100mill ISK up front and 100mill ISK after my propaganda post had been written, submitted to ôSlientbrickö for final inspection and signed off for being posted on the forums.
Eve University honoured the first part of the bargain in giving me 100mill ISK up front, but after I had compiled the propaganda post and submitted it to them for inspection they simply kept the post I had written and told me my services were no longed needed. I was backstabbed! I was enormously angry with them for not withholding their original agreement and to stop them from using the post, I decided to quickly post it myself before they could do so with one of their alts.
The original post was up to the line ôI have recently lost all respect for themö the rest was extra I added simply to make a mockery out of Eve University for attempting to play the sympathy card to the community. They are not as innocent as they have everyone believe and far from the neutral entity they for so long have claimed to be! Believe it or not I was investigating matters and evidence for this war thus allowing my to write you a semi-believable picture for the propaganda post and what I discovered was that Eve University did inadvertently start this war with Privateers with way of their hostile actions towards TRAPS. They were well aware of the consequences it enticed. There the truth is out, Eve University consider us now even. You kicked my dog and I kicked yours. The loss of your reputation within the community will be devastating, why? All because you failed to pay me a mere 100mill ISK like we agreed in my contract. PATHETIC!
The part about accepting donations was entirely dishonest and posted for my own amusement as a reminder of how backstabbing and dishonest our supposed ôneutralö ôplayer focusedö ôhelpfulö alliance actually is, not to mention I saw an easy opportunity to make some much needed ISK for trading, as I was broke (I still am broke, please send me ISK for my troubles/if I made you laugh/gave you some amusement).
Frayen won this thread; his summations of events were that of a person who never forgets this is only a game, which many seem to forget!
If you would like to hire me and use my services within your alliance my rates start at; 100mill ISK for deceptive posts and 150mill ISK for honest/factual posts (bit extra as its harder for me to be honest). All research to complete the job effectively is done for free and anonymously. My previous contracts include: ôGoonswarmö and ôEve Universityö 
That is all...
Guess we can expect those chat logs or maybe a copy of the "contract" any day now? Perhaps you should work on your power of persuation a bit as it seems the whole community failed to fall for your grift.
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Ubercado
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:26:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Zealota words
If you believe this to be true, please send me 100 mil and your TS address and I will have SabreA log on to your server and sing his resounding rendition of "Kumbyya" in falsetto.

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H Zub
Captain Morgan Society
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Posted - 2008.05.18 14:26:00 -
[102]
I need isk to prolong any pvp at all. After a break and a few drunk runs I can't shoot ivy or anyone else anylonger. Ivy blew up all my ships.
Anyway thanks for some crazy reading.
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CCP Mitnal
C C P

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Posted - 2008.05.18 15:07:00 -
[103]
Locked
OP is in an npc corp.
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