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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.05.01 12:48:00 -
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Hi,
Has anyone else noticed that after training a skill it resets to the previous level.
This morning I trained Research to level 1 then level 2 and had just started to train to level 3 (had been training towards level 3 for 10 minutes) when I got an evemail saying level 1 had just completed and my skill had been reset to level 1. |
DampJim
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Posted - 2004.05.01 13:46:00 -
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i think yu should petition this if u havent done it. This could be catastrophic(spellcheck) if it happens to the wrong skill.
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Keriann
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Posted - 2004.05.01 14:51:00 -
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happened to me too I lost 10 hours training!!! I've cancelled my 6 months plan no point to play a game that doens't let me play.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.05.01 18:27:00 -
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Silly you, I had this too - it's just a display bug 
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.05.01 19:03:00 -
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Erm...why is that silly me?
I have tried various things like switching skills/relogging/waiting during dt/aborting a skill and starting another/trying on another computer. They all imply my skill level has dropped. Even the eve web site says my skill is level 1.
It was very weird to get an evemail saying I had completed training to level 1 whilst I was training to level 3 at the time (which then reset my skill to level 1).
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.05.01 19:06:00 -
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I do not believe this is the normal graphics bug that everyone knows about since it is showing on multiple computers and my normal fix of switching skills did not work.
I have never had evemails before implying I had finished a skill level lower than the one I was currently training before with the known graphical bug.
FYI: Sequence of events:
1. Train skill to level 1.
2. Get an evemail saying it si complete
3. Train skill to level 2.
4. Get evemail saying it is complete
5. Train skill to level 3.
6. Get an evemail 10 mins later whilst training level 3 saying level 1 is complete and my skill has reset to level 1.
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Zoriander
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Posted - 2004.05.01 20:19:00 -
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Had the same problem now for two days with several skills 
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Jayrell
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Posted - 2004.05.01 21:17:00 -
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I have also been getting this error across several different skills. I have been advised that deleting my cache may solve the problem.... i will give it a go and let you all know
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.05.01 21:54:00 -
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If you are having the graphical glitch problem that has been around a while then deleting the cache might help. But if you are having the problem me and a load of others are having then it won't help as the problem is server end I believe since I have tried it on 2 computers and verified on eve website that my skills are wrong.
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Keriann
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Posted - 2004.05.01 23:50:00 -
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I've verified on the website too it is NOT a graphical cache bug! it reset my skill back to 2!
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2004.05.02 11:06:00 -
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yep, sigh, ive lost my lvl 5 electronics, possibly others. This is the only one ive noticed. cleared cache, doesnt help. EvE site also says my electronics 5 is at lvl 4...
An offical response and eta to a fix would be great, i understand they are busy, but even a "we are working on it" would put me at ease. Only took me 2.4seconds to type it, im sure even if they are swamped, they could have the janitor post it. 
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2004.05.02 11:10:00 -
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Also i would like to request a sticky on this topic, or one of the many others, or a sticky to an offical response, would cut down on all the threads about this issue.
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Kumquat
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Posted - 2004.05.02 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kumquat on 02/05/2004 12:05:13
Edited by: Kumquat on 02/05/2004 12:04:26
This behaviour has occured on both my accounts, I get the resetting of lvls on my n00b, but more annoyingly, I switched (didn't choose abort) from training Galente Indy V to train lvl 0->1 mass production, when I switched back to Galente Indy V, it reset back to lvl IV, so I had to start all over again.
OK, I'd only just started training Indy V and I've lost 3 days of training and I'll get over it, but I've not had this behaviour since beta, I must be thankful that I didn't lost 17 days or that it didn't set the number back to a negative 
Worth petitioning? Any advice on what type of petition as I generally only file stuck.
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2004.05.02 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Black Lotus on 02/05/2004 12:39:14
Ok i have done more investigating on this bug.
DT does not fix it. Diff comp does not fix it. Clearing cache does not fix it. It is also displayed bugged on site info.
I noticed that my gunnery seemed a little higher then normal, but thought nuthing of it, so i procedded to add all skill point totals together. They do equal my total number of skill points.
My total SP for electronics is 154,175, it should be 358,258. So im missing 204,083.
Electronics / Rank 1 / SP: 45917 of 256000 level
Electronic Warfare / Rank 2 / SP: 2380 of 2829 level
Long Range Targeting / Rank 2 / SP: 2829 of 16000 level
Targeting / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 level
Signature Analysis / Rank 1 / SP: 46380 of 256000 level
Sensor Upgrades / Rank 2 / SP: 637 of 2829 level
Sensor Linking / Rank 3 / SP: 49 of 750 level
Weapon Disruption / Rank 3 / SP: 750 of 4243 level
Propulsion Jamming / Rank 3 / SP: 9978 of 24000 level
However i should have Electronics lvl 5. (trained it over 6 months ago to lvl 5) the skill points here do add up though.
Now my gunnery is at 3,248,262. IT should be 3,113,531.
Gunnery / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 level
Small Hybrid Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level
Small Projectile Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 8032 of 45255 level
Small Energy Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level
Medium Hybrid Turret / Rank 3 / SP: 25065 of 135765 level
Medium Projectile Turret / Rank 3 / SP: 24800 of 135765 level
Medium Energy Turret / Rank 3 / SP: 42370 of 135765 level
Large Hybrid Turret / Rank 5 / SP: 113932 of 226275 level
Large Projectile Turret / Rank 5 / SP: 1676 of 7072 level
Large Energy Turret / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000 level
Rapid Firing / Rank 2 / SP: 90510 of 512000 level
Sharpshooter / Rank 2 / SP: 44221 of 90510 level
Motion Prediction / Rank 2 / SP: 90510 of 512000 level
Surgical Strike / Rank 4 / SP: 191143 of 1024000 level
Controlled Bursts / Rank 2 / SP: 512000 of 512000 level
Trajectory Analysis / Rank 5 / SP: 40003 of 226275 level
Weapon Upgrades / Rank 2 / SP: 512000 of 512000 level
If u add these all up, u will get the 2nd number (3.1mill) but it states that i have 3.25mill. So when i add up all totals it does equal my total number of skillpoints, so the points i had in electronics are somehow displaying here. And the exact number im missing from electronics lvl 5(204,083). Is the exact difference that has been added to gunnery total. But these 204,083sp are not in gunnery, only in the totals info.
Sorry for the long post. Just trying to give as much info as possible. Hope this helps.
*edit* Actually i only have approx 140k extra in gunnery, so i must have another 50k extra SP in another skill list, will try and find out then edit again.
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Datja
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Posted - 2004.05.03 14:02:00 -
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this just happend to me with my science lvl'ing, it lvl'ed lvl 1 and 2 perfectly, I turned on lvl 3 and it worked just fine.
but after I pressed the reproces button of an item, I suddenly got a message saying that training of lvl 1 science is completed and I lost my skill points.
this wasn't a big loss(a hour) but it is still not fun.
hope some dev guys see this or mayby we should send a bug report.
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Grayfang
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Posted - 2004.05.03 14:53:00 -
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This bug happened to me with Refining and it really sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trained to lvl 1 then 2. Started 3 then was demoted to lvl 1. There is a topic in the support section of the website about this and it should be fixed by May 4th. Im' retraining now to lvl 3, let's hope im lucky since im offline maybe nothing will happen?
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DX Cancri
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Posted - 2004.05.03 16:31:00 -
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This happened to me to. I trained Gallente Frigate from lvl2 to lvl3, I got the eve-mail saying training was complete and started training another skill.
Then when I checked back after a couple of hours my Gallente Frigate skill was back at lvl2, I immediately thought about this bug people mentioned. But I got a bit unsure if I remembered it correctly and just restarted training Gallente Frigate to lvl3.
After a couple of hours I get a Charisma Implant I wanted to plug in and before you plug in implants you have to abort all training. And when I aborted skill training my Gallente Frigate skill jumped right up to lvl3 in an instant.
So for you people that have problems could you please try this and tell us here if that solves your problems. Restart training the skill that you have problems with, and then abort that training.
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2004.05.03 17:59:00 -
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Aborting the skill only fixes the old problem of the skill not being displayed properly - not the one where the skill level does drop (i.e. you get an evemail saying you have competed skill to a lower level than you are currently training). Most of the ppl who think they have lost a skill have not and are suffering from the same display glitch that you mentioned. However there are a few ppl that have actually lost skill levels from this newer bug from what I can tell.
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Nemoyo
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:32:00 -
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I have also had this problem. I trained Drones to level 1, then trained mining drones to level 1. Both skills completed. I then went to train scout drones to level 1 but got a message saying that I need Drones level 1. I checked my Character sheet which listed the skill but said I had no skill points in it. I trained it again to level 1 and then to level 2 only to get a further email when I had finished saying I had once more trained Drones to level 1. After training 3 times it now says still says I am on level 1.
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Ari Kristinn
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:36:00 -
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had that problem too, i have 2 EvE mails saying i've finished training Warp Drive opperation to lvl 1
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Posmart
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:46:00 -
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me too, similar problems, bumping this back to the top
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:10:00 -
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If you folks have not already, EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD THIS HAPPEN NEEDS TO WRITE AN PETITION IN-GAME. I canĘt stress this enough. GMs and Devs DO NOT read this forum regularly and posting here is no substitute for a petition.
So far this hasnĘt happen to me, but one of my corp mates brought it to my attention as he last a dayĘs worth of training and waited until after DT to confirm this was a real loss and not a graphical issue. IĘm hoping it gets sorted in the next day as I have long skills training and would like to interrupt them, but I sure wonĘt if this is going oną.
BW
 Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:35:00 -
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I'm just confirming that this has happened to me aswell. It is definately not a graphical glitch although I have started getting those aswell now for the first time since I started playing, I can only assume the two bugs are related.
By the sounds of it once you get the dreaded 'second EVE-mail' telling you you've finished a previously learned skill then it becomes permanent.
In the grand scheme of things missing 12-24 hours of training time isn't the worst thing that can happen but I've always told myself, I can put up with most bugs that EVE has to offer but if it ever affects my skill points then I will seriously have to reconsider my subscription which would be a crying shame. 
Does anyone know if the GM's have the tools to 'add' skill levels to characters? Has anyone ever received reimbursements for lost skills points before?
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Namarus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 16:17:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=77730
This is a bug. I've lost 500k skill points, and will also be cancelling my account. If not reimbursed.
I've had it with all their bugs, I do not mind losing my ships and implants and other things due to bugs. However, losing my training time is not something I'm willing to accept.
Nothing to see here .... move along. |
NEMSIS1
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Posted - 2004.05.05 01:14:00 -
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I got the same problem . When i completed Battleship lvl 2 I got a mail telling me i have completed lvl 1 
Now I have two mails saying i have completed lvl 1 . Something has got to be done about this . We go to the trouble to learn these skills and are not awarded them , what sort of game is that.Its not fun I know that much.Shall I bother to learn it again ? I might just to see how many BS lvl 1 completion mails i can collect . It might turnout to be more fun than playing EVE it self.
well cheesed off
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Gorin Talonisis
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Posted - 2004.05.05 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: Gorin Talonisis on 05/05/2004 03:25:16
This is actually an old beta problem. Usually it can be solved by switching back and forth between the skills. There will be times in which the unfortunate result is a person being screwed.
This is just an observation I have made. I have nothing to back this up. It seems that once the skill trains completely to whatever lvl you've lost. Eample, retraining lvl 3 after you regressed from training lvl 4. Then all your previous work is lost. So my advice would be to make sure the skill isn't regressing, and if it is regressing, do not train it back through. Switch the skill over to another skill and try swapping back a few times. If that fails to solve your problem, petition, and train a skill which is advancing properly.
Hopefully that is helpful.
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Petr Sorokin
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Posted - 2004.05.05 08:36:00 -
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Whatever is causing this is damm annoying. I just had my Cruiser skill set back a level in the same way. Got a new evemail saying I had just trained Cruiser level 2 ( still have first copy showing reaching level 2 ) and it dropped me back both in game and on the char info back from level 3 to the start of level 2. I suppose compared to some of you losing level 5 skills losing 40,000pts (23hours) isn't quite so bad, but this is a bug that needs priority attention. There isn't any point in playing if yuo can just randomly lose blocks of skills like this. I can't fly my ship now for 23 hours so basically may as well just log off and wait to see what happens.
This isn't the display bug (which is annoying enough) or the skills not updating bug(again annoying). This is actually losing a skill you had and were using and being set to a new lower level and losing all your skillpoints.
The skill system has all sorts of problems atm and needs fixing.
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ChernoChiel
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Posted - 2004.05.05 14:09:00 -
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had this like 7 times already, didnt cost me more then 10 hours, but its just sooo annoying...
might as well NOT train anything, cuz it wont work at all :S
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Altai Saker
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Posted - 2004.05.05 14:25:00 -
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Lost 22 hours worth of skill points in drones lvl 5...
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NemesisNL
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Posted - 2004.05.05 14:41:00 -
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had the same problem trained gallente frigate lvl 3 twice.
had a petition response stating that it would be fixed yesterday but it wasnt fixed for me.
there was also some dev response in another thread somewhere stating it would be fixed yesterday dunno where anymore.
probably wont happen again but to bad for last skillpoints or something |
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