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kworld Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.05.18 02:31:00 - [1] Edited by: kworld on 18/05/2008 02:39:27 The People that are complaing about Empyrean Age are prob the people with no lives at all that want to spend another 5 years doing the same thing well so what im sick of all the crying on the forums about it and i bet a lot of other people feel the same way, Get over it or quit eve that simple because this patch is going to happen so end the moaning threads.
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.05.18 02:32:00 - [2] sup _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
Tar Ecthelion The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.18 02:36:00 - [3] ....
Seleucid Secundus	Posted - 2008.05.18 02:57:00 - [4] AMEN! bring on this patch so i can add capsuleer pilots to my slave pens!!! Stock up on slaver hounds children!
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.05.18 03:30:00 - [5] Originally by: kworld Edited by: kworld on 18/05/2008 02:39:27 The People that are complaing about Empyrean Age are prob the people with no lives at all that want to spend another 5 years doing the same thing well so what im sick of all the crying on the forums about it and i bet a lot of other people feel the same way, Get over it or quit eve that simple because this patch is going to happen so end the moaning threads. /Signed Originally by: Seleucid Secundus AMEN! bring on this patch so i can add capsuleer pilots to my slave pens!!! Stock up on slaver hounds children! /Signed again The sooner the expansion, the sooner nonsense whine threads polluting the forums are gone - or at least the doomsday ones. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the
CEO Drako	Posted - 2008.05.18 03:44:00 - [6] And for those of you leaving eve can I have your stuff?
Lord Roshan Galactic Confederation ICARUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.18 03:48:00 - [7] Bring on the New Expansion :D -------------------------------- CEO of Galactic Confederation. Contact Lord Roshan or WeeJahz in game for info on joining GCON.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:23:00 - [8] I don't buy it... the Gallente are all life, liberty, and hookers. I could see the Amarr jihading a supercap into a station, but the Gallente? () () (â;..;)â (")(")
Lord Roshan Galactic Confederation ICARUS Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I don't buy it... the Gallente are all life, liberty, and hookers. I could see the Amarr jihading a supercap into a station, but the Gallente? Gallente and Minmatar do anything to win HEIL THE CALDARI! -------------------------------- CEO of Galactic Confederation. Contact Lord Roshan or WeeJahz in game for info on joining GCON.
Iss Mneur	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:46:00 - [10] Originally by: Lord Roshan Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I don't buy it... the Gallente are all life, liberty, and hookers. I could see the Amarr jihading a supercap into a station, but the Gallente? Gallente and Minmatar do anything to win HEIL THE CALDARI! Maybe, probley though has more to do with the fact that a Cadari Admiral flew a Chimera (check its description) into Gallente Prime. I think it is only fitting.
Gwendion Gallente No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:53:00 - [11] I say its perfect revenge for the cowardly tactics the Caldari used in the first war. Revenge for terrorism! Down with Caldari! And to indoctrinate their children from an early age spouting lies about this terrorist killing innocent Gallentaen and Caldarians alike as some sort of National Hero? Its disgusting. Disgusting.
Phony v2 Caldari DAB	Posted - 2008.05.18 04:57:00 - [12] Edited by: Phony v2 on 18/05/2008 05:03:57 honestly, I don't understand the opposition to this patch. This so far seems like the best thing to ever happen to eve. It is perfecting it, no matter what angle i see it from. This patch is perfect and if you dont think so then leave. And anyway is there anything better than owning some gallente scum...I think not _______________________________________________ Yes, in the back, the idiot with the dumb question?
Jack Gilligan Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:03:00 - [13] Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 18/05/2008 05:13:39 I think that any "expansion" that excludes a large proportion of the population arbitrarily is a bad idea out of hand. Don't even need to see the specifics. EVERYONE who is in an alliance is excluded 100% from faction warfare. This is both shortsighted and stupid. Expansions retain veterans by giving them new stuff. This expansion, since it excludes... oh, say... 100% of everyone who is in the 0.0 alliance endgame completely FAILS on that account. This makes me wonder if CCP made a mistake and actually hired some dumbasses from the Star Wars Galaxies NGE team to make an expansion for them. Think on this... OK, the empires are going to war... Do you NOT think that they'd WANT to enlist the support of the many empires in their own right bordering them? If for no other reason than to make sure they DONT support their enemies! In essence, this PVP expansion is aimed at people who don't pvp and is structured to exclude from it those who by and large make up most of the active pvp'ers. This is as stupid as coming up with an industrial/mining content expansion that prohibits anyone who can fly a hulk from taking part in. My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Iss Mneur Originally by: Lord Roshan Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I don't buy it... the Gallente are all life, liberty, and hookers. I could see the Amarr jihading a supercap into a station, but the Gallente? Gallente and Minmatar do anything to win HEIL THE CALDARI! Maybe, probley though has more to do with the fact that a Cadari Admiral flew a Chimera (check its description) into Gallente Prime. I think it is only fitting. Upping the ante, so to speak?
Scopa Outta	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Jack Gilligan I think that any "expansion" that excludes a large proportion of the population arbitrarily is a bad idea out of hand. Don't even need to see the specifics. EVERYONE who is in an alliance is excluded 100% from faction warfare. This is both shortsighted and stupid. Expansions retain veterans by giving them new stuff. This expansion, since it excludes... oh, say... 100% of everyone who is in the 0.0 alliance endgame completely FAILS on that account. This makes me wonder if CCP made a mistake and actually hired some dumbasses from the Star Wars Galaxies NGE team to make an expansion for them. Perhaps if you checked the alliance rankings and counted the number of people that are actually in alliances, you'd realize that a relatively small % of the eve population is actually at this so-called "end game." If you actually paid attention to the dev communications, you'd realize that they want to get MORE people to said "end game." Their approach to doing so is to ease the transition from the safety of empire to the utter lack thereof in 0.0. Maybe this approach will work and maybe it won't, but at least they're willing to give a novel solution a try. But should it succeed, it will be a boon to those already in 0.0, because it will increase the population out there, which should make for a more dynamic place to live. Really, you people already in 0.0 need to stop the "gimme a new toy, mama!" whine when there are already more ship classes than there are effective roles for in pvp anyway. It's a terrible shame that the best intentions of those who have spent years developing and growing EvE can be so easily twisted and misunderstood.
Kev Hunter	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:19:00 - [16] If Empyrean age is coming... can I haz Orca?
Jack Gilligan Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Scopa Outta Originally by: Jack Gilligan I think that any "expansion" that excludes a large proportion of the population arbitrarily is a bad idea out of hand. Don't even need to see the specifics. EVERYONE who is in an alliance is excluded 100% from faction warfare. This is both shortsighted and stupid. Expansions retain veterans by giving them new stuff. This expansion, since it excludes... oh, say... 100% of everyone who is in the 0.0 alliance endgame completely FAILS on that account. This makes me wonder if CCP made a mistake and actually hired some dumbasses from the Star Wars Galaxies NGE team to make an expansion for them. Perhaps if you checked the alliance rankings and counted the number of people that are actually in alliances, you'd realize that a relatively small % of the eve population is actually at this so-called "end game." If you actually paid attention to the dev communications, you'd realize that they want to get MORE people to said "end game." Their approach to doing so is to ease the transition from the safety of empire to the utter lack thereof in 0.0. Maybe this approach will work and maybe it won't, but at least they're willing to give a novel solution a try. But should it succeed, it will be a boon to those already in 0.0, because it will increase the population out there, which should make for a more dynamic place to live. Really, you people already in 0.0 need to stop the "gimme a new toy, mama!" whine when there are already more ship classes than there are effective roles for in pvp anyway. It's a terrible shame that the best intentions of those who have spent years developing and growing EvE can be so easily twisted and misunderstood. Not going to do that, mate. By excluding alliances from faction warfare, here is what's going to happen: 1. Existing empire players will be lured to places they are vulnerable with little consequence (lowsec) by the content. They will be going to static areas that are well known. 2. They will be fodder for exiting pirates AND alliance players ****ed off by their exclusion from faction warfare. 3. Within weeks if not days everything involved in this expansion becomes irrelevant because the empire carebears who DONT pvp in the existing game (because they are too inexperienced or don't like it) realize that they aren't protected by CONCORD and will repeatedly DIE horribly to pirates if they engage in faction warfare. 4. This could be mitigated if alliances were brought in. Want this to be a bridge to real pvp? What better than to have empire players already have standings towards pvp 0.0 alliances based on the fact that they are supporting the faction that an alliance decides to throw in with? This would be a given, since any alliance wanting to participate in faction warfare would naturally be penalized for shooting blues declared to the same faction in the battle areas... My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:34:00 - [18] Confirming that I'll be griefing people to make a statement.
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I don't buy it... the Gallente are all life, liberty, and hookers. I could see the Amarr jihading a supercap into a station, but the Gallente? This whole event is getting so misinterpreted. The Gallente were just minding their own business, when the Caldari rammed a station into them. ------------------------------ Kaboom: The process by which large objects are broken down into many small objects.
Jack Gilligan Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:37:00 - [20] Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 18/05/2008 05:42:41 Originally by: Idaeus Confirming that I'll be griefing people to make a statement. I won't be.. Because I am anti pirate, and I am not allowed to engage in it because of my corp and alliance policies... But I'm with ya in spirit. I think that to prove a point all the faction warfare hubs should become "warp there to die" camps made up of those not allowed to participate, ie, alliances. What better way to prove the point that excluding alliances is far worse than letting them be a part of it! Since CCP sees fit to NOT engage the community on the huge objections to what this expansion is bringing in, well, my opinion at this time is, they need to release it as fast as they can so that it will die it's mandated death in the first week, so that they can then move on to the next expansion which might actually have something worthwhile. The good news is that faction warfare isn't mandatory, which means that once it's exposed as the deathtrap for empire players that it is, it will become as irrelevant as the cumbersome and unfun COSMOS missions. Sad, because it could have been so much more. My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Scopa Outta	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Jack Gilligan Originally by: Idaeus Confirming that I'll be griefing people to make a statement. I won't be.. Because I am anti pirate, and I am not allowed to engage in it because of my corp and alliance policies... But I'm with ya in spirit. I think that to prove a point all the faction warfare hubs should become "warp there to die" camps made up of those not allowed to participate, ie, alliances. What better way to prove the point that excluding alliances is far worse than letting them be a part of it! Wow.. this is so out there I'm almost stunned... "mommy.. those mean kids won't let me play with them... so I had to gank them when they got off the school bus!! that'll show them!! next time they'll know better and they'll let me play too!".... right...
Joe Starbreaker	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:42:00 - [22] Quote: EVERYONE who is in an alliance is excluded 100% from faction warfare. ... All in all, I hate to say it, but CCP has made a huge blunder with this expansion. They ... adding something based on a target audience that doesn't exist... Wrong and wrong. People in alliances are free to leave them and join the militias. I will, though maybe with an alt. Target audience doesn't exist? I guess you haven't been reading this forum for the past two or three days. People are wild with excitement about the expansion. It's the pirate CEOs and alliance leaders who are quaking in their boots now. Their members work like dogs to raise taxes, mine the veldspar, seige enemy POSs, camp gates, all to build motherships and titans for their leaders, and they do it in exchange for scraps of PVP that are few and far between. People are going to leave the alliances in droves to get in on the fast and furious PVP of factional warfare, especially if those PVP-mission payouts are high enough to make a military career sustainable. I'd say your alliance leaders have to think seriously about what they can offer players that FW can't. Access to 0.0 ratting is nice but if there's enough money in FW, they'll have to come up with more. ---------------- [insert signature here]
Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:48:00 - [23] Frankly I don't care if alliances are excluded. I'm just excited about all the fresh new lowsec the clueless will be pouring into.
Jack Gilligan Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Quote: EVERYONE who is in an alliance is excluded 100% from faction warfare. ... All in all, I hate to say it, but CCP has made a huge blunder with this expansion. They ... adding something based on a target audience that doesn't exist... Wrong and wrong. People in alliances are free to leave them and join the militias. I will, though maybe with an alt. Target audience doesn't exist? I guess you haven't been reading this forum for the past two or three days. People are wild with excitement about the expansion. It's the pirate CEOs and alliance leaders who are quaking in their boots now. Their members work like dogs to raise taxes, mine the veldspar, seige enemy POSs, camp gates, all to build motherships and titans for their leaders, and they do it in exchange for scraps of PVP that are few and far between. People are going to leave the alliances in droves to get in on the fast and furious PVP of factional warfare, especially if those PVP-mission payouts are high enough to make a military career sustainable. I'd say your alliance leaders have to think seriously about what they can offer players that FW can't. Access to 0.0 ratting is nice but if there's enough money in FW, they'll have to come up with more. EVERYONE who is in an alliance is excluded 100% from faction warfare. ... All in all, I hate to say it, but CCP has made a huge blunder with this expansion. They ... adding something based on a target audience that doesn't exist... Wrong and wrong. People in alliances are free to leave them and join the militias. I will, though maybe with an alt. Target audience doesn't exist? I guess you haven't been reading this forum for the past two or three days. People are wild with excitement about the expansion. It's the pirate CEOs and alliance leaders who are quaking in their boots now. Their members work like dogs to raise taxes, mine the veldspar, seige enemy POSs, camp gates, all to build motherships and titans for their leaders, and they do it in exchange for scraps of PVP that are few and far between. People are going to leave the alliances in droves to get in on the fast and furious PVP of factional warfare, especially if those PVP-mission payouts are high enough to make a military career sustainable. I'd say your alliance leaders have to think seriously about what they can offer players that FW can't. Access to 0.0 ratting is nice but if there's enough money in FW, they'll have to come up with more. Why should I HAVE to leave my alliance if I want to help the Caldari destroy the hated Gallente? I don't have to to run missions for Caldari corporations. Those who are enthusiastic about this expansion think that somehow CONCORD is going to protect them. They aren't. The griefing options opened by this expansion are so endless that they will immediately END participation in it. The pirate corps are licking their chops over this. Indeed, most of the blind defenders of excluding alliances ARE the pirates, who want their bonanza of empire ganks to come uninhibited by alliances that could destroy them. My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Phony v2 Caldari DAB	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Jack Gilligan Why should I HAVE to leave my alliance if I want to help the Caldari destroy the hated Gallente? because genius, you arent apart of the caldari faction when you are in an alliance. You are part of the Intrepid crossing, and you stand by their beliefs. How do caldari know you are to be trusted. Alliances are their own factions, and since Im apart of the caldari faction and I dont like you, the rest of the caldari must not like you either... _______________________________________________ Yes, in the back, the idiot with the dumb question?
Joe Starbreaker	Posted - 2008.05.18 05:59:00 - [26] Originally by: Jack Gilligan Why should I HAVE to leave my alliance if I want to help the Caldari destroy the hated Gallente? You don't have to leave your alliance. You're free to stay out of the war. Originally by: Jack Gilligan I don't have to to run missions for Caldari corporations. Right, you don't have to do anything you don't want to. Originally by: Jack Gilligan Those who are enthusiastic about this expansion think that somehow CONCORD is going to protect them. You seem pretty confident in labeling everybody else in this forum an idiot. What makes you think that people excited about a PVP expansion are expecting CONCORD protection? Few players are as stupid as you say they are. Originally by: Jack Gilligan The pirate corps are licking their chops over this. Their CEOs may be excited about new opportunities for dull gatecamping, station camping, and smack talk, but a lot of their members are probably going to leave them to join the militias and actually PVP. ---------------- [insert signature here]
Jack Gilligan Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:02:00 - [27] Originally by: Phony v2 Originally by: Jack Gilligan Why should I HAVE to leave my alliance if I want to help the Caldari destroy the hated Gallente? because genius, you arent apart of the caldari faction when you are in an alliance. You are part of the Intrepid crossing, and you stand by their beliefs. How do caldari know you are to be trusted. Alliances are their own factions, and since Im apart of the caldari faction and I dont like you, the rest of the caldari must not like you either... Not part of the Caldari faction? How? I still have very high standings. I don't lose any by pvp'ing. My character IS a Caldari. Why wouldn't the Caldari State not want to, uh, say ally with the powerful alliances to help them out? You know the empires are WELL aware of the many large entities that exist outside the space they control, some of which rival THEM in strength... You don't think they'd all go to war with each other while ignoring them? It's not like some of the NPC factions don't seem like, uh, 0.0 alliances aligned with an empire is it? Such as the Khanid Kingdom and the Amaar... My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my corporation or alliance.
Moe2	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:21:00 - [28] I have to agree that people will probably leave 0.0 to join FW and it will be a good thing for all of EVE to do so. I have been in 0.0 awhile and know that there is little money out there unless your corp is on top and you are one of the higher ups in that corp. People are out there to PvP but rarely get the chance. Meanwhile the higher ups are making bank building titans to secure themselves in their high towers. I was never in a corp that was on top and never was a higher up and I don't want to sit in corp after corp toiling away for the little scraps of PvP I get. Not only will the expansion give us PvP, but will also give me a rank. With that rank comes a bit of pride for fighting for a cause. There may not be much money in it, but at least there will be some compensation and recognition for my actions. We are not out there to toil away for you, we are out there for PvP. As EA is released 0.0 corps will need to start really compensating their members or they will fall apart. The man on the bottom of the totem pole does make a difference. If you don't recognize it, at least it will be fun to watch you fall.
Ranger 1 Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.18 06:34:00 - [29] I believe that allowing Alliances was considered, but not all of the tools were in place to do so. I don't think it is unwise of CCP to start with the basics, work out the kinks, and then see what can be done about allowing 0.0 alliances some way to participate without screwing up the whole system. Just relax, see what happens, use an alt to participate for now and assess how well or how badly faction warfare is implemented. Yep, thats right, actually help get things to the point where alliance participation is possible rather than throwing tantrums. What a concept.
Chavette'd'Bling	Posted - 2008.05.18 08:01:00 - [30] EVE has had factional war in it since day one, there have been corp's that took the fight for thier faction then they built into alliances in the course of 5 years. all this time FW has been in eve but its been getting done by "the roleplayers" and there for avoided by the non rolplayers. as it stands atm CCP have shafted the rolplayers good and hard, here is the factional warfare we have been promising you for 5 years and hey YOU cant be involved, now all the fanboys and dev alts are posting how much CCP have put into it and people should wait as it will all iron itself out just like the lag issues and UI issues have.

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