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Semkhet
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Erotic Irony
Xhagen is at a loss for words trying to explain how so few people voted and rationalize why CCP should waste their time doing this again. I'm going to guess no more than 30% of the players voted.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that technically speaking, there was no need to come with all this PR crap & relying on "representatives" to start with.
If CCP was genuinely interested in consulting player's opinions about specific subjects, they just had to implement polls. Then that only concerned players vote is no different than what happens in any democracy.
Hence the bottom line is, if you make things complicated when it could all remain crystal simple, there's a good reason for it which might have very little to do with the substance of the matter supposedly at hand...
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Semkhet
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: ShootBlues
The big flaw in this is that most of the people who play this game don't fully understand a lot of the mechanics and reasons behind changes. So you would get a stampede of idiots voting to ban high-sec suicide ganking and other trivial crap. Even though hypothetically if this was the case, I imagine CCP would obviously only put issues they want to a poll. Which isn't much better than the current state, and doesn't provide any real sensible way to discuss and develop ideas.
Your idea of how they should poll is like abolishing local and state governments and have a only a federal government run and entire country.
Nope. Any system which defers authority to elected "representatives" simply translates into giving free hand to a reduced number of individuals who each aim for said positions (and the linked power) for a number of reasons which might have little to do with the general interest of the people who voted for them.
Hell, RL politics are the best example. Much talk of democracy everywhere, but why don't you stop thinking how is it possible that in the Digital Era, we still have to elect representatives when it is so simple to implement direct polls ? Because politics = $$$ and a lot of people benefits directly or indirectly. Direct democracy shortcircuit a fair share of businesses depending from lobbying.
That's why all so-called democracies function under the concept of "representative democracy", with the sole exception of Switzerland, which is the only country having the balls to actually really implement both a direct democracy and a rotation system for the highest public servant positions in order to prevent any kind of power grabbing and the ensuing classical abuses you can witness everywhere.
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Semkhet
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sariyah
Then I assume you were one of those who abstained anyway.
Don't always try to find the bad things. Truth is I was surprised by this initiative and I think it's a very interesting and good one. Don't think any other MMO has this tbh, but maybe I'm too pessimistic so I'd be glad if you could prove me wrong.
Wrong. I do act under the (neutral) assumption that this initiative is genuine hence did vote Jade with all my accounts because she seems to concur in my specific areas of interest.
That said, I've spent too much time interacting in RL with politicians to hold any illusion about the intricacies & finality of the whole exercise.
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Semkhet
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
Originally by: Omber Zombie
should have done it aussie style - everyone has to vote, even if it's to abstain.
I agree, although I'm possibly slightly biased being a fellow Aussie.
The only problem with that system was the fine was AUD$50 if you didn't vote, so when I was travelling during election time, I used to pay my brother AUD$50 to go vote on my behalf to save the fine and the hassle of postal voting. 
Retorsion against potential non voters simply translates into increasing the number of registered votes at the price of the pertinence of the voting results since ppl end voting out of their butts. There are a number of countries which indeed implement fines if you don't go to vote and control carefully the ID of the voter. Argentina is one of them IIRC. Unfortunately this concept doesn't solve the problems of political corruption by a single iota...
After all, humans are humans, and when you tempt the devil, well, that's what you get in return
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