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Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2008.05.19 06:40:00 - [1] OK, I can already hear the comments of "idiot" and "dweeb" in the minds of many as I ask these questions, so if it means anything - I ALREADY KNOW. But if anyone can humor me just a tad - I'd greatly appreciate it! First understand, I'm 2 months old into this game. I purchased a 70 SP toon, able to do what I obviously couldn't do. Then purchased several cool ships, amoung which was a Dread - Pheonix. So my question - how does a Dread pilot navigate throughout the map?? I've learned the hard way, star gates aint possible. When clicking on my own ship, I see a "Jump To" menu, but if selected, it says "No destination". One person told me, that's the way all capital ships are and that was the end of that...HUH??? The crazy thing is, I also wanted to buy a Titan as well (OK, you can get up off the floor from laughing), but will a Titan also experience this issue? And if so ---- what's lacking?? And not to keep on, but why isn't there any detailed information on stuff like this, maybe a manual on Cap ships or have I also missed that one too? Be gentle.
Nijikon Gallente CBC Interstellar	Posted - 2008.05.19 06:48:00 - [2] Edited by: Nijikon on 19/05/2008 06:50:26 hmm 1. u need sth like cynosual field in destintion system - placed by another character in special ship -edit: mistake - u need cynosual field generator on a ship and thats it 2. u need racial fuel for ur capital ship in ur capital ship cargohold 3. there is a carier guide somewhere around, pretty old but there is sth about traveling with capital ship so u can look for it - i read it for curiosity sth like 15 pages in nice pdf file 4. dont fly a ship which u dont want to/dont have to/cant afford to loose as a side note: i wouldnt recommend to u flying anything bigger then cruser/batlecruiser for start, u seem new (just like me) so better start with sth a lot smaller and cheaper ps: delete from ur post part about titan...please
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.19 06:49:00 - [3] Originally by: Crawe Deraven First understand, I'm 2 months old into this game. I purchased a 70 SP toon, able to do what I obviously couldn't do. Then purchased several cool ships, amoung which was a Dread - Pheonix. loooooooooooooooooooooooool more to the point you need someone to gang you, create a cynosural field in the desired location and then jump to--I'm not going to bother to see if you're in an alliance but ctrl backspace is the cap nav screen just in case ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.05.19 06:53:00 - [4] Edited by: Erotic Irony on 19/05/2008 06:53:24 Originally by: Crawe Deraven OK, I can already hear the comments of "idiot" and "dweeb" in the minds of many as I ask these questions, so if it means anything - I ALREADY KNOW. But if anyone can humor me just a tad - I'd greatly appreciate it! First understand, I'm 2 months old into this game. I purchased a 70 SP toon, able to do what I obviously couldn't do. Then purchased several cool ships, amoung which was a Dread - Pheonix. So my question - how does a Dread pilot navigate throughout the map?? I've learned the hard way, star gates aint possible. When clicking on my own ship, I see a "Jump To" menu, but if selected, it says "No destination". One person told me, that's the way all capital ships are and that was the end of that...HUH??? The crazy thing is, I also wanted to buy a Titan as well (OK, you can get up off the floor from laughing), but will a Titan also experience this issue? And if so ---- what's lacking?? And not to keep on, but why isn't there any detailed information on stuff like this, maybe a manual on Cap ships or have I also missed that one too? Be gentle. Get the titan tbh, that other guy is just being spiteful and jealous--Eve is all about thinking big, and more importantly having fun with the big ships. . Besides, no titans have been destroyed in game. They are just that powerful. Millions of hitpoints, great resistances, you can solo tons of players in them no prob. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.19 06:56:00 - [5] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 19/05/2008 06:58:20 ack wrong thread -- Billion Isk Mission
Majuan Shuo Vigilante inc.	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:03:00 - [6] Erotic Irony is lying! q-"WELL WHAT ABOUT THE PIRATE CODE!?" a-"well actually... they're more like guidelines.."
Swiftness Caldari VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:37:00 - [7] Just curious, what do you need a dreadnaught for ?
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:47:00 - [8] Edited by: Ortos on 19/05/2008 07:49:23 PVE? Oh btw, this is kindof epic.
Lethal Chiken Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:55:00 - [9] LINK You use this site. Preety self explanitory. Put in what lvl skiils you have in the drop down menus. Put in your start location and destination (and if you want to travel by systems with stations in) Click Plan route. You need a gang mate in the next system to make you a CYNO field. (he needs Liquid ozone for that) You need racial isotopes in your cargo (Nirtogen Isotopes for a Phoenix. The planner tells you how much you need. Then when your gang made has avtivated the cyno, you right click on him in fleet and click "jump to". Done. Simple really.
Ne nehn	Posted - 2008.05.19 07:58:00 - [10] http://myeve.eve-online.com/api/default.asp You can go there and find your API key and people can help tell you what ships to fly.
Ruah Piskonit Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:23:00 - [11] start small. . . train amarr ----
Caligulus Legion of Lost Souls Ivy League	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:40:00 - [12] So...uh...where'd you come up with all that ISK jr.? ------------------------------------------------- ** You're out of your mind! ** Well that's between me and my mind.
Furb Killer The Peacekeeper Core	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:42:00 - [13] He bought a 70M SP account, how do you think he got the isk? He bought it...
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:45:00 - [14] Crawe, do you know what a GTC is?
Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2008.05.19 08:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Ne nehn http://myeve.eve-online.com/api/default.asp You can go there and find your API key and people can help tell you what ships to fly. I've bought 2 toons thus far and anticipating on buying two more. But what I have bought can be seen here: http://www.newforms.nl/eve/skills/Crawe_Deraven http://www.newforms.nl/eve/skills/viiipper It seems if you have enough ISK, anything in this game is possible. But I've also found the main killer to be -- not knowing requirements needed to achieve what it is you desire to do. More info needs to be written up... You have all been very helpful (with the expection of Irony ). Another who read my post in game also helped me as well. There is obviously a lot to learn, but my intentions are not to take 2 to 3 years of skill learning just to obtain the few things I perceive to be COOL and want to do in this game. And yes, one of them is flying a Titan ship. It's funny, I mentioned this in a chat room just two weeks ago when I was using a noobe toon, lots laughed at that statement. Understood. But I got to say, if they were to rethink the power of ISK ,...all is really possible! Now it seems I need to join an alliance/corp with the facilites to build one, buy a toon that can build one OR simply buy a Titan already made. Irony....it will happen! Thanks guys/gals!
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Crawe Deraven It seems if you have enough ISK, anything in this game is possible. Sadly ISK cant buy the clue.
Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:03:00 - [17] Originally by: Ortos Crawe, do you know what a GTC is? Ortos....yup. Thats how I got the ISK, selling codes. Have spent thousands on game consoles, games, etc. Lots of people do and I aint alone by any means. So when I encountered this game, I stopped playing and spending money on those other games and have sense been wrapped up only in this. My point is, if anyone can justify spending the cash they do on other games PS3, XBox's, WII. the games to play on them, etc. - this is no different. So yeah, ISK is not a real a big issue. Understanding the crap that's not in the in game help or tutorial is an issue.
Falcon Troy Caldari Awesome People Secret Corp	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:41:00 - [18] Originally by: Crawe Deraven Originally by: Ortos Crawe, do you know what a GTC is? Ortos....yup. Thats how I got the ISK, selling codes. Have spent thousands on game consoles, games, etc. Lots of people do and I aint alone by any means. So when I encountered this game, I stopped playing and spending money on those other games and have sense been wrapped up only in this. My point is, if anyone can justify spending the cash they do on other games PS3, XBox's, WII. the games to play on them, etc. - this is no different. So yeah, ISK is not a real a big issue. Understanding the crap that's not in the in game help or tutorial is an issue. You should have just made a new account. All that money and SP does nothing for you. Then again you seem to be some sort of rich-boy who spends his money and time playing games. You can easily replace all the stupid mistakes you'll be making. Carry on. _____________ Hai.
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:46:00 - [19] Edited by: Seetesh on 19/05/2008 09:47:58 Smells either of ebaying or buying isk, who would spend thousands of $, ú on a game
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Crawe Deraven Originally by: Ortos Crawe, do you know what a GTC is? Ortos....yup. Thats how I got the ISK, selling codes. Have spent thousands on game consoles, games, etc. Lots of people do and I aint alone by any means. So when I encountered this game, I stopped playing and spending money on those other games and have sense been wrapped up only in this. My point is, if anyone can justify spending the cash they do on other games PS3, XBox's, WII. the games to play on them, etc. - this is no different. So yeah, ISK is not a real a big issue. Understanding the crap that's not in the in game help or tutorial is an issue. hehe, im just asking for the fun of it. If you said you didnt know, we'll. I'd be laughing :p sorry, im evul. Anyhow, if you want a little help i'll PM you ingame. I know the situation youre in, got a 30m SP char off a friend myself and beeing blank in expensive ships is a bit frustrating :P
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:52:00 - [21] BTW the reason it takes 3 years to train for somehting big is because something that big requires not just eve skills but real life skills and knowledge that cant be gained over a short period of time. A titan costs around 100 billion with fittings? i dont want to guess how much isk you'll have to spend. The coolest ships are the HAC's & Recons, Titans can be boaring and you have to live in them literally, Either spend 900mil on a carrier thats fine and 1.5bil for a dread is fine but not a titan please dude dont its foolish. If you want a cool ship get a rapier, huginn, vagabond or some of the other really nice ships. Also lasers and amarr rock once skilled properly.
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 09:53:00 - [22] A titan is past 100b including fittings.
Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Seetesh Edited by: Seetesh on 19/05/2008 09:47:58 Smells either of ebaying or buying isk, who would spend thousands of $, ú on a game Me. And you would be surprised how many other people spend thousands on games...they just don't see it that way. Ya buy the PC (500.00 - 2000.00) then add the extras into it (ie. video game cards), another 200 - 500.00, or the game console(s), PS3, 400, Xbox 300. Then buy the games at 50.00 a pop. 20 games you've spent another 1K already. However if you REALLY like gaming - its not hard to do more damage than that. Purchase a flat screen TV, plug your PC into it,... gaming is big bucks.
Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:19:00 - [24] Originally by: Seetesh BTW the reason it takes 3 years to train for somehting big is because something that big requires not just eve skills but real life skills and knowledge that cant be gained over a short period of time. Yeah I know. But the draw back here is the lack of info on all of this. Hell I can read and yeah, learn too. Anyone with a head on their shoulders should be able to pick up and learn (game or other). Getting a titan (unless its purchased) will take me 3 to 6 months as I see it. I figure that's quite some time to learn. Right now, my Dreads just sitting while I get the understanding and finish a couple other skills. Originally by: Seetesh A titan costs around 100 billion with fittings? Yeah I dont know, thought it was about 60-70 Bil. But your right, aint cheap. Guess I didnt like the idea of dying. Figured a titan would be hell to kill.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:24:00 - [25] Originally by: Crawe Deraven Originally by: Seetesh BTW the reason it takes 3 years to train for somehting big is because something that big requires not just eve skills but real life skills and knowledge that cant be gained over a short period of time. Yeah I know. But the draw back here is the lack of info on all of this. Hell I can read and yeah, learn too. Anyone with a head on their shoulders should be able to pick up and learn (game or other). Getting a titan (unless its purchased) will take me 3 to 6 months as I see it. I figure that's quite some time to learn. Right now, my Dreads just sitting while I get the understanding and finish a couple other skills. Originally by: Seetesh A titan costs around 100 billion with fittings? Yeah I dont know, thought it was about 60-70 Bil. But your right, aint cheap. Guess I didnt like the idea of dying. Figured a titan would be hell to kill. what would you do whit the titan ?? or dread... titans are good for fleet support... nuking half of the enemy fleet for example.. or logistics(moveing freighters through 0.0) dreads are good at shooting pos or other capitals... and thats it ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:32:00 - [26] A titan is just a means of moving around other ships :P
Mr Nick Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:36:00 - [27] Those are stupid comparisons, spending money on physical posessions to play and enjoy games on is not the same as buying theoretical objects which do not belong to you in any legal manner. Buying a character with isk is perhaps more understandable, its more of an investment, but when you buy so much isk to spend on things like dreadnaughts which you can and (judging by your knowledge of the game) will lose its a whole different kettle of fish. Don't expect sympathy or help, you've spent a huge amount of real life money on a game and show why the GTC to isk policy is absolutely ridiculous, you deserve to waste it all stupidly.
Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:50:00 - [28] This thread can go on, but I'm out'a here. It's peps like Mr Nick that make buying and selling GTC's worthwhile...when ya can surpass their skills and then umm,...kill em! Thanks again all! POOF!
egegergergsdgedgege	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:51:00 - [29] The differnce is, that i will not come to your house and destroy your 300Ç-XBox but i will come to your system and destroy your shiny new 300Ç ship.
Ogron Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.19 10:54:00 - [30] Crawe, not to rain on your parade here but do you actually know what these ships you have spent thousands of pounds of real money on are actually for? And in what situations you would actually use them? A dreadnought is good for 1:Seiging POS's with a support fleet making sure it doesn't get ganked whilst in siege mode. 2:Shooting other Capital ships 3:Fitting cargo expanders and using it as a hauler into low sec or 0.0 space (lawl) So.. as an un-corped player just how do you propose to use said Dread? You know, there's a very good reason at the beginning of the game that someone with low skill points cannot fly lots of expensive ships. There's also a good reason why people generally laugh at others who tend to buy characters and money when they are new. It's only luck that you were not killed in your Dread whilst sitting at the gate going 'Durrrr.. how do I get through?'. Quote: And not to keep on, but why isn't there any detailed information on stuff like this, maybe a manual on Cap ships or have I also missed that one too? You would know this information if you had been in the game for more than two months. Yup, there's no decent manual, sometimes you just have to learn things either by experiencing them, asking corp/alliance mates and not just buying them and expecting it to drop in your lap. I could easily buy a few capital characters, no bother. I could get a build price capital or two. But I wont simply because I know im not ready for it yet. I just broke 10m SP. Have fun spinning your dread in station mate. o7 --- Who is dis moses meehee they talking about ?

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