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Maroxus Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 23	Posted - 2012.03.15 07:11:00 - [91] - Quote The forum rage on Bioware Social is still going on ... especially the story and discussion area of Mass Effect 3 where the first page is updated every minute. This reminds me of the incarana rage lol. Best pictures so far: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6837710858_cf69fce2f9_b.jpg http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/267/791/54b.jpg
Wild Rho Silent Core 15	Posted - 2012.03.15 07:36:00 - [92] - Quote Pr1ncess Alia wrote: -the ending... it's all been said. Love it or hate it is up to you, I for one pledge an oath today that I will never pay money for another EAioware game. Of course the ending was done on purpose and it's so they can drag you out for another $50 later giving you what they intentionally withheld. I feel pretty much the same. I am actually curious to see how much DLC they'll manage to sell when they seem to have killed a lot of peoples investment in the story.
Jada Maroo Mysterium Astrometrics Bringers of Death. 603	Posted - 2012.03.15 07:50:00 - [93] - Quote I don't really mind the endings - seems like if you have a high enough score you can get just about any ending you want. What really bothers me is that to get that score you have to do multiplayer. I really have no interest in multiplayer shooters, and mindless online shooting shouldn't have any effect on my story. I will say I thought the synthesis ending was LOL-stupid. It's like a childish solution to end racism - make everyone interbreed into a single color of brown. But with flesh and robots. Maybe in the context of the cycle of destruction of synthetic and organic life it's not so unreasonable but it sure did look corny. All that said - I have no doubt the indoctrination theories are correct. There's no other excuse for Shep waking up in London really. So the true ending: Shep rejects indoctrination, destroys Reapers, lives. Mass Effect 4 will take place after the reconstruction of the relays or something. No other reason to have the child ask for another Shep story. By the way, I was bothered they didn't do something a bit more clever like... Shep was revived through Reaper tech. That would have made a "destroy all Reapers" ending a little more complicated.
Sellendis The Ares project 42	Posted - 2012.03.15 10:19:00 - [94] - Quote Pr1ncess Alia wrote: well, I beat the game. Never again will I pay for another one of their products. I'll play some of them, but they got my last dollar. And no matter what they do in the future (if anything) to rectify the slap in the face that the end of this game was, unless it's free DLC it will only go to support my opinions on pirating software to send a message. Future conversations will go like this: Bob: You shouldn't pirate software Alia, it's bad. ME: I gave Bioware hundreds of dollars and 5 years of being a loyal fan. They repaid this by ruining the end of what could have been the most epic sci-fi game series of all time. The reasons for which are either sabotaging their own product by forcing development to meet an unrealistic due date (not likely) or to repay my patronage by trying to dupe a few more dollars out of me. Bob: But it's stealing ME: Yeah, I know. That's why I'm so mad at them. Bob: That's not what I meant... ME: I know. Its not just you mate, they screwed up with DA2, so simplified it was boring as hell, dont get me started on bugs. Then they do the ME3 fiasco. Now somebody asks you why dont you buy the games? Whats the point, you give money for a collection of different bugs coming with a installer. They sell you some crap, and later they wonder why aren't you buying crap again. Brilliant isn't it? We should make shirts, i bought all 3 ME titles, and all i got was a kick in the quad. :)
Louis deGuerre The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 231	Posted - 2012.03.15 10:32:00 - [95] - Quote Jada Maroo wrote: Mass Effect 4... well the ending either hints at more Shepard (and there damn well better be - I need Shep! [snip] MASS PREDICTION: Within a year, a DLC to give us a more satisfying conclusion and set up the next trilogy for Shep. Problem here is : Do you really want to keep playing with a Shepard that killed EDI ? Joker will hate you FOREVER FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1
Sin Pew Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.03.15 11:37:00 - [96] - Quote What I regret, is that some tailored suits from EA must have deemed the story thing of the game to be optional, just like an ending. In ME2 already, they took away most of the RPG part and replaced it with quests-for-dummies +á la DA2. "I overheard your conversation..." "I heard you talking..." "I found that artifact on a planet across the galaxy and I knew it was for you, enjoy!" Big flashing indicators to display the location of various mission objectives because two pillars in the middle of a room could be too confusing and players might get lost. I was fond of ME because of the whole epic space-opera idea and great dialogs, not for the shooter gameplay itself and I think that's where they terribly failed. ME2 was already a step down the bad side, but with ME3, they basically stripped the game of everything that made it so special, to streamline it into another random mainstream shooter, with less storytelling and lore, but more player hand holding and shooting. Besides, I don't give a damn about the whole MP shooter part of the game and I think they should have focused on the story for ME3 and release an optional standalone Mass Effect Online along with ME3 for the trigger-happy retards that don't give a sh*t about the story and only interested in pewpewing online, instead of making stupid compromises to pack it all together. If in doubt... PANIC! Support Two Step for CSM!
Sin Pew Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2012.03.15 11:42:00 - [97] - Quote Sellendis wrote: We should make shirts, i bought all 3 ME titles, and all i got was a kick in the quad. :) This... deserves a post on ME3 forums If in doubt... PANIC! Support Two Step for CSM!
Sellendis The Ares project 42	Posted - 2012.03.15 19:24:00 - [98] - Quote Breaking News.... http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9999272 Here's the official website: ME3 The Final Hours It supposedly has insider information on scrapped parts of the game, interviews with bioware staff over some of the moments in the game, and never before seen art work (which was also scrapped). I just bought the app and hope to update you guys later on, with any interesting news from the app. Also a Windows/Mac version will be out later, presumably through steam (its the same as the final hours for portal 2). The cost is $2.99 On Tali's Face We eventually decided that she gives you a memento of her pictures, but the team was throwing around a lot of pictures and designs until we decided on something and said "Yup, that's her". Mac Walters on the Star Child/Reapers "Originally, with the catalyst, the star child at the end of the game, I had written that much more in the guise of a investigative style conversation, where there is something he tells you but then, you get to ask a bunch of questions and you get your questions answered. But then me and Casey talked and decided, lets keep the conversation "High level". Give you the details that you need to know, but don't get into the stuff that you don't need to know. Like "How long have they been reaping?" You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect universe. So we intentionally left those out" And there it goes, a new low for them.
Kai Tel State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.03.15 20:06:00 - [99] - Quote God babies... geesh there was nothing more I hated than walking in on a WOW role-play group at the tavern where the girls were all supposedly having god babies. And what do they do in ME3... Pfft.... When Karpyshyn left the project all hope left with him.
Roosterton Syndicalis Immortalis The Skeleton Crew 337	Posted - 2012.03.15 20:19:00 - [100] - Quote Meh, the ending's not really as terrible as a lot of people are trying to make it out to be. Especially if you buy into this.

Valei Khurelem 439	Posted - 2012.03.15 20:38:00 - [101] - Quote Roosterton wrote: Meh, the ending's not really as terrible as a lot of people are trying to make it out to be. Especially if you buy into this. I'd rather look at reality than be in complete denial about the game endings being absolute garbage, what is the biggest **** take is the game pulls you along with perfectly acceptable storylines and choices towards the middle then it just comes along and kicks you in the balls for all your effort. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Sellendis The Ares project 42	Posted - 2012.03.15 20:41:00 - [102] - Quote Roosterton wrote: Meh, the ending's not really as terrible as a lot of people are trying to make it out to be. Especially if you buy into this. They just pretty much said how much they changed the endings to destroy everything. Indoctrination was an idea, but laziness prevailed and they massacred it to hell. To make sure you dont see your teammates die, we will magically teleport them to Normandy, that will be using the relay to run away from the fight for no apparent reason whatsoever. Its amazing because you really had to TRY to ruin mass effect. At worst, people were expecting a tragic ending, or a generic good ending. This was like, effort. Phantom menace style effort.
Maroxus Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 23	Posted - 2012.03.15 23:51:00 - [103] - Quote Sellendis wrote: Its amazing because you really had to TRY to ruin mass effect. At worst, people were expecting a tragic ending, or a generic good ending. This was like, effort. Phantom menace style effort. You just reminded me of Plinkett's reviews http://twitter.com/#!/redlettermedia "Will will be doing something with Mass Effect 3 ... stay tuned..."
Pr1ncess Alia Perkone Caldari State 141	Posted - 2012.03.16 07:20:00 - [104] - Quote Sellendis wrote: Its amazing because you really had to TRY to ruin mass effect. You really did. Let's consider 6 unique endings with small clips added/removed due to previous and current game choises. With those, and then an epilogue you're looking at an additional 4 minutes of unique high end cinematics and a series of artwork stills plus text. What's that add up to in dev costs? Barely six figures? A quarter mil being generous. They made how many millions on release day and plan on fleecing a fanbase that is so pissed I doubt they but into it anywhere near their projections. To go on a bit of a tangent on that last point, I'm never much for the whole flash in a pan eBoycott, but if there was ever an appropiate time for one this would be it. They got lazy and said "frak it, we got their money. phone it in and call it a day" Let's try to think outside the box for a moment, many of us have been caught up in the reality and many imagned solutions. Here is game X. Game X has advertised xx different endings based on your game decisions. Game X makes one ending in different colors. What grade crak do you have to be smoking to think this is the way to finish a 6 year epic trilogy? ** bioware. EA. I'm on a boycott of one. Feel free to join me. Not only that. I'll be going out of my way to obtain their games in ways that do not involve me paying them money, and I'll pledge to insure that anyone I know that might play their games obtain them in the same way I do. Have fun with my cash bioware. It's the last. And to those there that gave a damn and tried their best, I'm sorry, but just like is possible in any busines, the guys in the suit shafted your life's work just to trim the budget a bit (into their pockets. that's exactly what management/ executive bonuses are made of). Top-Down development always culminates to this. True art and creativity mix with business goals like oil and water. All the most successful and **** managers always forget to respect that. Don't let the management pollute the innovation and vision. The whole thing is kinda funny. I mean we knew EA would turn Bioware into a husk of what it was. But no one expected such a "if there is a worst time to do this, this would be it" move out of their management. If what I expect will happen happens, it is what they call "SHNG THE MONEY BED". They loaded, took aim and shot themselves in the foot. "hey, let's just totally screw over the fan base and tell them "you didn't need to know" and "it's edgy and cool and it's too bad you don't get it" Here is game X. Game X has advertised xx different endings based on your game decisions. Game X makes one ending in different colors. ^^You can't spin that. You **** up bioware, big time. It's like trying to spin crapping your pants. "you guys just don't understand it, crapping your pants is cool. it makes you think"
Valei Khurelem 439	Posted - 2012.03.16 12:02:00 - [105] - Quote Guys, I just remembered another damn plothole in Mass Effect 3. Does everyone remember when Shepard actually manages to take down the reaper on Rannoch with a laser pointer and the normandy? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?! That just made the whole damn idea of crucible completely pointless! They should have made it so that using crucible was a renegade option and just beating the reapers toe to toe using those kind of tactics was the paragon option. What the ****?! ARGH! Why am I still raging over this game?! Why put a blatant weakness in the reaper and then force you to go after crucible and go through all that pointless bullshit with cerberus? Granted, cerberus would still be a threat but that doesn't mean all the other armies can't just go off and blow up the reapers anyway while you deal with them with your own elite squad. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Sellendis The Ares project 42	Posted - 2012.03.16 12:22:00 - [106] - Quote Well, the fleet fight shows us they can destroy a reaper, it takes a lot of fire but they can take one down....then you look at them fire. its a complete FFA, who is calling targets, primary and so on, nope, just shoot and let god sort it out. On the crucible issue, they activate it so they dont have to hunt every reaper ship and ground unit in the galaxy for next few hundred years. Still, pointless to comment on crap they did, pure disaster.
Maroxus Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 23	Posted - 2012.03.16 18:27:00 - [107] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Guys, I just remembered another damn plothole in Mass Effect 3. Does everyone remember when Shepard actually manages to take down the reaper on Rannoch with a laser pointer and the normandy? WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?! That just made the whole damn idea of crucible completely pointless! They should have made it so that using crucible was a renegade option and just beating the reapers toe to toe using those kind of tactics was the paragon option. What the ****?! ARGH! Why am I still raging over this game?! Why put a blatant weakness in the reaper and then force you to go after crucible and go through all that pointless bullshit with cerberus? Granted, cerberus would still be a threat but that doesn't mean all the other armies can't just go off and blow up the reapers anyway while you deal with them with your own elite squad. ? It still took the fleet fire of the flotilla fleet to kill that mini reaper. Unless it can play out differently? Just because you can kill one with a fleet doesn't mean you can kill an entire fleet of them with the fleets from a handful of races.
Sellendis The Ares project 42	Posted - 2012.03.16 21:03:00 - [108] - Quote Maroxus wrote: EDIT: Also .. never forget Marauder Shields. Our hero, our protector....our dark knight.
Roosterton Syndicalis Immortalis The Skeleton Crew 337	Posted - 2012.03.17 02:14:00 - [109] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Roosterton wrote: Meh, the ending's not really as terrible as a lot of people are trying to make it out to be. Especially if you buy into this. I'd rather look at reality than be in complete denial about the game endings being absolute garbage, what is the biggest **** take is the game pulls you along with perfectly acceptable storylines and choices towards the middle then it just comes along and kicks you in the balls for all your effort. (Spoilers) But as has been mentioned, it takes legitimate effort to actually screw up the ending that badly. There's a heapload of things suggesting that it may have actually been an indoctrination and not the real ending. Think about it - if it wasn't an indoctrination, why insert the scene of Shepard breathing beneath rubble IN LONDON after picking "destroy?" Of course, I still dislike them for doing this as, if they did do this, it's an obvious cash grab to later release a DLC for "what happens after shepard wakes up from the attempted indoctrination!" but at least it doesn't ruin the entire plot for me anymore.
Valei Khurelem 440	Posted - 2012.03.17 08:52:00 - [110] - Quote Quote: Incorrect, the Normandy was only able to knock the Reaper down, and only by hitting its weak point. To actually kill the reaper, they had to sync up Shepard's laser to the ENTIRE quarian fleet, and all consecutively shoot the weak spot with perfect timing, four times in a row. Yeah. Oh yeah, I remember that its been awhile since I've been willing to play the game, but even so, you'd think some engineers and geth would go "Hmm maybe if we researched a weapon that would work against that weakness we could take them down one by one?" I still find it pretty ridiculous. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium

Jada Maroo Mysterium Astrometrics Bringers of Death. 606	Posted - 2012.03.19 06:23:00 - [111] - Quote Forbes: Casey Hudson Responds to Mass Effect Ending Protests: "This is Not the Last You'll Hear of Commander Shepard" Looks like Bioware's gonna crack and give into the demands of Mass Effect fans. On a side note, I just donated to the Retake campaign. It's getting a lot of publicity, and it's already at $65,000.
Alpheias Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard 497	Posted - 2012.03.19 09:18:00 - [112] - Quote Jada Maroo wrote: Forbes: Casey Hudson Responds to Mass Effect Ending Protests: "This is Not the Last You'll Hear of Commander Shepard" Looks like Bioware's gonna crack and give into the demands of Mass Effect fans. On a side note, I just donated to the Retake campaign. It's getting a lot of publicity, and it's already at $65,000. I believe it when I see it. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Frank Millar The Corporation Incorporated The Revolution. 25	Posted - 2012.03.19 15:41:00 - [113] - Quote I finished the game yesterday evening, and I remember myself staring at the rolling credits. I am not really mad (yet), but as has been said: this game trilogy was about making choices, and in the end, IT ALL DIDN'T MATTER ANYWAY. I already said in another thread I'd be very cautious about any and all DLC. That caution is out of the window: I will not buy any of it. An alternate ending will have to be FREE, otherwise I won't get it. I am sorry to say EA/Bioware will not see another cent from me. Ever. On another note: there's entirely too much Gears of War in this game as well; the chest-high walls have already been mentioned (they were pretty obvious in ME2 as well, but whatever), but what of that entire Hammer of Dawn-sequence with taking down the Reaper on the Quarian Homeworld. WTF was that? And Squad selection: In ME1 you had 5 people available before you even left the Citadel. In ME2 you gathered a colossal pool of people (admittedly not all of them that useful, but still). And in ME3 you get 6. Total. With 1 (one!) Biotic, 2 Tech types and 3 types with guns. I was a massive ME fanboy, and I am dissappointed.
Sellendis The Ares project 42	Posted - 2012.03.19 16:21:00 - [114] - Quote Welcome to the club. They did manage to really put in a effort to completely destroy ME universe. And i was under impression that CCP screws things up, but Bioware really went to the next level.
Barakkus 1522	Posted - 2012.03.19 23:44:00 - [115] - Quote I've been enjoying it so far, from the grumblings here tho, not sure if I want to finish it lol (I skipped over the spoilers though). I'm one of those people that has to try and explore every room before I move on, so I have a feeling I won't make up my mind for another month, so far it's been ok. I'm a little disapointed in some of the lame dialog, it just seems more campy than 2. I like the fact that you can try and talk to people but don't get a conversation dialog deal most of the time unless they have something new to say. I was sort of disappointed in the planet scanning thing, sounds dumb but I kinda liked it in ME2. I like the shooting range too, I don't recall that in ME2, but I do like being able to mess with all the weapons instead of having to try them out while doing a mission or whatever. I miss being able to holster weapons, and the cover system is a bit "sticky". Some of the UI seems a bit pointless, like the war report stuff, I haven't really figured out what else to do with it other that just read a couple things here and there, it seems like it was sort of half assed and not really thought through. The variance in squad members was a wee bit disappointing so far, but I'm not very far in. The transition animations when you dock somewhere or whatnot seems to either be broken for me or the animations are truly 2 seconds long and don't show anything but a ship floating in space, there were a few other things like that I noticed when loading different parts of the game that kinda made me wonder how interested those guys were in doing the game this time around. The amount of ammo laying around is sort of staggering this time around...it's pretty hard to just run out of ammo for the most part (at least as far as I am into it). We'll see how good it is in the end tho :) I can't play ME1, won't run on my machine, so waiting until next year to play it when I buy a new computer to play through all 3 straight :) http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Sellendis The Ares project 43	Posted - 2012.03.20 09:38:00 - [116] - Quote Heh, i did score 36h on my first (and only) play, explored every nook and cranny in the universe. Still didn't find 2 ship models for my room, maybe they are in NG+. Dialogs are a sign of Mac Walters writing potential...meaning, crappy. Shooting range is awesome, you can test weapons and customizations before you go to the mission, and save yourself the time cursing stupid rifle that doesn't do crap. Why cant you play ME1?
Louis deGuerre The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities 232	Posted - 2012.03.20 10:29:00 - [117] - Quote Not sure what NG+ is, I bought the regular pre-order digital download via Origin, but I found all models. In the shuttle bay there is at least one that is hard to find. One I bought in a shop late in game. Do a Barrel Roll, Joker ! FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1
Frank Millar The Corporation Incorporated The Revolution. 25	Posted - 2012.03.20 11:46:00 - [118] - Quote There is another ship model to be found down the stairs at Engineering, where Jack used to sit around in ME2. Also, I found plenty in the shops on the Citadel. I too like to search every nook and cranny for Weapons, Upgrades and Data Pads. There is indeed more than plenty Ammo to be found. Also, I started an Adept yesterday. Much to my dismay (sort of) I can use Sniper and Assault Rifles and Shotguns...
Sellendis The Ares project 43	Posted - 2012.03.20 14:14:00 - [119] - Quote NG+ is a New Game +, you take exp, skills and money or something, also in second pass you can upgrade weapons to L10, first pass is L5 only. About the models, i found all on Normandy, others i really dont know where i missed 2 of them. After every mission i checked all stores and inspected every new area. http://imgur.com/sC49f Picture of ones i found.
Jhagiti Tyran Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 238	Posted - 2012.03.20 17:19:00 - [120] - Quote There are a lot more models in the stores as well as the ones you find around the ship, you can also find your Hamster (if you had one in ME2) at the lowest section of engineering. It runs past as you enter the area.



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