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Neutrino Sunset KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:18:00 - [31] Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Neutrino Sunset Originally by: "MrRx7" You whiners aleady got a few ships ruined Stuff... How about damp ships? Hmm, perhaps to a certain extent. Although the way I remember it the community in general was only expressing concern with the ubiquitous use of damps on non-specialised ships. To nerf damps on bonused ships appeared to be a idea CCP came up with all by themselves.
Ralara Caldari D00M.	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Futtbucker Why didn't they nerf neuts when they nerfed NOS? Why do neuts need to be nerfed, exactly? --
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:33:00 - [33] Lets just nerf everything....
Ioci Gallente Ioci Exploration	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:35:00 - [34] Neut is the only way to get a Nano off your back. Now that people are figuring out what a Neut is good for, the Nano days are going to come to an end. Ask me if I care?
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2008.05.20 11:41:00 - [35] Originally by: Zakgram Originally by: Stakhanov It should be integrated into ship scanners , to make them more useful in combat (worth the mid slot) I'd go one further. At the moment we tell people how much damage is done to an opponent and how much shield, armour, structure is left. I'd change it so that: Damage message only shows that it is hitting shield/armor/structure. No visibility of how much shield/armor/structure your opponent has left. Make ship scanner show you these things, along with cap. Then there would be a reason to use one. That would be totally awesome actually I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2008.05.20 11:43:00 - [36] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Futtbucker Why didn't they nerf neuts when they nerfed NOS? Why do neuts need to be nerfed, exactly? They seem too effective against small ships, especially the tanking close range ones like most AF's. I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.20 11:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Futtbucker I am thinking they are an issue. Wait, weren't you the one crying about HICs a couple of days ago? Hey, guess what the best module to use against a HIC is? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.05.20 11:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Futtbucker Why didn't they nerf neuts when they nerfed NOS? Why do neuts need to be nerfed, exactly? They seem too effective against small ships, especially the tanking close range ones like most AF's. Neuts are the BS defence against small ships. AFs have considerable problems independant of neuts. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Element 22 Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.20 11:55:00 - [39] I hate to be so disconcerting, but if EVE was a woman (like many of your significant others assume), I doubt she would be going Quote: Oh! Nerf me baby, that's it, nerf me harder! You are the best f*king nerfer ever! orgasm* So stop it. Stop it now. Signatures are annoying...kinda like me.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:23:00 - [40] I'd love to see a highslot module that increased the cap loss to your ship whilst being nos'd or neut'd, but in return applied heat damage directly to the attacking ships cap drain modules. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Ralara Caldari D00M.	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:24:00 - [41] Originally by: Avon I'd love to see a highslot module that increased the cap loss to your ship whilst being nos'd or neut'd, but in return applied heat damage directly to the attacking ships cap drain modules. can you not overload neuts/nos? --
Euriti Gallente Caritas.	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:24:00 - [42] They're fine, they're a counter to nano and they're needed.
Arous Drephius Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:31:00 - [43] Originally by: Stakhanov Originally by: Sokratesz they should introduce a highslot module that you can activate on someone to show their cap level. It should be integrated into ship scanners , to make them more useful in combat (worth the mid slot) You mean, like it already has been?
Essque War Wombats	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Stakhanov Originally by: Sokratesz they should introduce a highslot module that you can activate on someone to show their cap level. It should be integrated into ship scanners , to make them more useful in combat (worth the mid slot) As for neuts being overpowered , lol. Poor curse can't kill a properly tanked drake. Or pretty much any passive tanked ship. I think the ship's cap level should be visible when you target it, just like shields, armour and hull. That would help when using nos. There should be no mods/scanners needed in order to see that. Other than that, nos and neuts are perfectly fine as they are.
Andreask14 Raptus Regaliter Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.05.20 12:44:00 - [45] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Zakgram Originally by: Stakhanov It should be integrated into ship scanners , to make them more useful in combat (worth the mid slot) I'd go one further. At the moment we tell people how much damage is done to an opponent and how much shield, armour, structure is left. I'd change it so that: Damage message only shows that it is hitting shield/armor/structure. No visibility of how much shield/armor/structure your opponent has left. Make ship scanner show you these things, along with cap. Then there would be a reason to use one. That would be totally awesome actually Imagine not being able to see how much damage the primary is taking. This would make it mandatory to always be SURE to have enough firepower for AMY target, in ANY situation, so you dont mess up. It would encourage the all powerful blob even more. Sig offline
Gimpb	Posted - 2008.05.20 13:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Futtbucker Edited by: Futtbucker on 20/05/2008 07:57:21 Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Neuts are awesome and they do their job well. What do you think is wrong with them? \ I just killed a Abaddon with a Curse.. I bet the other guy would disagree with you. He had 2 LAR II's and 2 EANM II's. It took awhile but, still got him. Yes, just because he lost an abaddon to a curse he will obviously think neuts are overpowered right? Not everyone is so naive to think something is wrong with the game just because they lost a ship. ... or perhaps this story is actually the other way around and it was your abaddon... learn your lesson and move on.
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.20 13:35:00 - [47] First thing I thought when I read the title was "who's nuts need looked at?"
Zapatero	Posted - 2008.05.20 13:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Wild Rho First thing I thought when I read the title was "who's nuts need looked at?" So you clicked and now you're disappointed? :) - Z EON \| blog
abbagabba Gallente Monster Raving Loonies	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:02:00 - [49] Originally by: Arous Drephius Originally by: Stakhanov Originally by: Sokratesz they should introduce a highslot module that you can activate on someone to show their cap level. It should be integrated into ship scanners , to make them more useful in combat (worth the mid slot) You mean, like it already has been? This.
Bourgeoisvio	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:11:00 - [50] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Futtbucker Why didn't they nerf neuts when they nerfed NOS? Why do neuts need to be nerfed, exactly? They seem too effective against small ships, especially the tanking close range ones like most AF's. That's my only problem with them. One high slot renders a large ship pretty much immune to smaller ships. And it's not like you compromise your ability against large ships doing so; that large neut is also great against other battleships. Large neuts are a battleship sized weapon that do full "damage" to ships regardless of size. It's like cruises and torps doing full damage to frigates. Large neuts as frigate defense are for people who want to solo in their BSs and not have to worry about support. You should have to choose between an anti-BS or anti-frig/cruise loadout. Right now having large neuts against small ships is like having a long range web and ECM in one, and you sacrifice zero effectiveness vs large ships to get it.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:16:00 - [51] What is your problem with NUET's ? CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
Face Palmer Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:17:00 - [52] MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING: HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x ''HYPHNOS'' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:19:00 - [53] Wow it wasn't equipped with a lowercase-capable keyboard at all? CSM Manifesto 2008 \| Destroy Outposts!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Ataraxia.	Posted - 2008.05.20 14:22:00 - [54] Heavy Neut is the only fitting worth a ** on my Tempest . Oh...I solo killed a Hyperion in my Rapier...out of a mission with Neut towers. That took a while too . A couple nights ago a pal and I bumped a smack-talking Drake pilot off a station. And 10 minutes or so later he got to laugh as me and my Rapier and friend with Curse gave it up as a pointless waste of ammo. Maybe if he had Recon V...or I had more than two guns...or...or... Neuts are one of the best balanced modules in the game. I don't know why I replied to this stupid thread . "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the ** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Captator Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.05.20 15:11:00 - [55] Neuts didn't get nerfed, because noone was using them at all, ever, before the nos nerf - why cost yourself cap to kill their cap, when you can just suck it all away with nos (pre nerf). Now that NOS is nerfed/balanced/w/e Neuts have a role, and they are good at it - shut a tackler/nanoship down, or on a curse/pilgrim/domi/phoon shut a tank down. (there are others but these are the main ones) Problem is there is no way to make an extended duration fight capable curse/pilgrim without either: CURSE 1) Having absolutely no tank whatsoever (not even a small shield buffer) 2) Having a ridiculously expensive set of implants (snake set and cap recharge in lowslots, or nanos/recharge in lows and cap recharge implants/snake set) 3) Having a mate to give you cap charges/ guardian to cap transfer you PILGRIM 1) Having no manuverability advantage in web range (kind of needed to maintain range/transversal) - can make a good setup except it only goes ~200m/s, so its target range is very limited indeed, if it could fit an AB instead of a large cap battery, it would be a lot more effective. 2) Being utterly committed to any fight once it engages, being basically stuck there till its target or it dies, and cannot field a decent enough tank to justify this, unless you ignore ewar bonuses and fit it with lasers or something (seen it, made me cry). Give curse +400 and pilgrim +700 base capacitor (I have only looked at the pilgrim in depth for this, but giving the curse +700 would make it an IWIN ship again, hence the decreased amount). This would make the amarr recons capable of running decent EWAR capabilities, (Mids as well as highs) without sacrificing huge numbers of slots for cap recharge equipment, or sacrificing longevity completely due to injector (which especially on pilgrim, completely ruins its TD effectiveness). TL:DR, neuts are fine and working as intended, the abaddon had plenty of time while you tried to chew him up to a) kill your drones, or b) call for backup. Buff cap size of pilgrim/curse so they can have extended fights/move faster than a hauler
Blood Daemon Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.20 15:20:00 - [56] Originally by: Futtbucker I am thinking they are an issue. I think people like you are an issue... (BTW it's not a Rickroll) ------------------ SIG UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Kolwrath Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2008.05.20 15:26:00 - [57] Originally by: Futtbucker I am thinking they are an issue. I am thinking they are not. You spend 600 cap to nuke 600 cap on your target. Sounds pretty fair exchange to me. Originally by: Chaos Space Marines Do you hear the voices, too?!?!
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.20 15:31:00 - [58] Originally by: Ralara can you not overload neuts/nos? I think you misunderstood my point. The target ship can activate a module which would cause the draining ship to suffer heat damage to its nos/neuts. The penalty for the target ship using the module would be that their cap would be drained at an increased rate. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.05.20 16:24:00 - [59] Nuet
Alowishus	Posted - 2008.05.20 16:31:00 - [60] I think they need to be looked at too. Their max range should be changed to an optimal and they should be given a 20km fall off on top of that.

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