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Jolt
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:04:00 -
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I have heard that titans are coming out but just how good are they? Can they take Battleships out easily? If you have any info on titans please share all you can.
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Araskomiv
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:05:00 -
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hey jolt
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Jolt
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jolt on 02/05/2004 22:07:25
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DHU InMe
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:10:00 -
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YOU'll see in time.
Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04):
BP, bugs about them.
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Jolt
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:14:00 -
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 Originally by: DHU InMe
YOU'll see in time.
Yes I will but is there any info anyone has right now?
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 02/05/2004 22:18:01
Titans will not likely be out untill next year. They are designed to be carrier ships for fleets if I am correct. As for the weapons they will have I am not too sure. Only the devs will know that for now. However I doubt they will be the uber ship people drool over. They will have to have some form of weakness if they can carry many battleships. Otherwise they would be too powerfull and people will complain about that.
Look at aircraft carriers of today. They are prety useless if they do not have any planes to launch, but if they do they can win wars.
*edit* Oh yeah, you can view some stats on them on the www.eve-db.com site. though I would think they will change if they are still under development.
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Monkieon
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:24:00 -
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They will be so big that they cant dock at stations and they use jump drives rather than the gates..... Well thats how they have been described in the past.
Only super corps like Xanadu and Co will be able to afford them!
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:27:00 -
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You can still start mining for it, collecting 500M tritanium and equivalents in other minerals should keep you busy a few days^^.
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Jayad
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:28:00 -
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My impression is they will be mobile homes for corps. So would be exceptionally usefull for deapspace endevers.
From what ive seen on there stats from EVE-DB they will not be great combat platforms (however slightly better than the average Battleship).
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Jolt
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jolt on 02/05/2004 22:31:36
Anyone have a rough estimate of how much they will cost????
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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jolt
Edited by: Jolt on 02/05/2004 22:31:36
Anyone have a rough estimate of how much they will cost????
i¦m thinking billions...
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:35:00 -
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Perhaps it would be useful thinking about Dreadnaughts and Destroyers... these are much closer.
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tyritaksr
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Origim
Perhaps it would be useful thinking about Dreadnaughts and Destroyers... these are much closer.
Dreadnaughts and destroyers?sorry but i have never heard of those only titans.....
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:55:00 -
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In short, Destroyers and Carriers are two new classes (IMO coming after the tech2 cruisers) placed between cruisers and BS, and Dreadnoughts will be like Mini-Titans, dessgned not to be mobile stations (that's Titan's job) but Uber-battleships.
A dreadnought will probably have more firepower than a Titan.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.05.02 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: Origim on 02/05/2004 22:58:38
Originally by: tyritaksr
Originally by: Origim
Perhaps it would be useful thinking about Dreadnaughts and Destroyers... these are much closer.
Dreadnaughts and destroyers?sorry but i have never heard of those only titans.....
Gamespy official DEV blog- Dreadnoughts & Destroyers coming witht he Shiva patch.
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Lord Drax
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Posted - 2004.05.02 23:44:00 -
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I hear'd (sp?) that titans will not have very much firepower, but will be like mobile bases. Can't remeber who told me so dont quote me on it.
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Araskomiv
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Posted - 2004.05.02 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Araskomiv on 02/05/2004 23:47:20
some1 told me that u'll be able to choose ur ships colors with the shiva patch
wonderin if ne1 nows if that tru or not
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Titan AE
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Posted - 2004.05.02 23:49:00 -
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In that gamespy thing the devs described future ships, but didn't say they'd be out with shiva :P. The new cruiser class ships MIGHT be out sometime in shiva, I'd guess that the new BS class ships won't be. TomB did state pretty firmly at one point that new indys are not too far over the horizon though.
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Maule
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Posted - 2004.05.02 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
Edited by: Darius Shakor on 02/05/2004 22:18:01
Titans will not likely be out untill next year. They are designed to be carrier ships for fleets if I am correct. As for the weapons they will have I am not too sure. Only the devs will know that for now. However I doubt they will be the uber ship people drool over. They will have to have some form of weakness if they can carry many battleships. Otherwise they would be too powerfull and people will complain about that.
Look at aircraft carriers of today. They are prety useless if they do not have any planes to launch, but if they do they can win wars.
*edit* Oh yeah, you can view some stats on them on the www.eve-db.com site. though I would think they will change if they are still under development.
as the history about them says they are flagships for battlefleets...
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Armin Chamberlain
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Posted - 2004.05.03 00:10:00 -
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err...if such a thing is worth billiob, imagine the blueprint cost!  |
Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.05.03 00:41:00 -
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LOL! ^^
More speculationthreads about what will be included in shiva.
If those new ships (dreadnought, destroyer) will be included in shiva AND shiva comes out this month to top it off il eat my hat AND boots..
When would these things all be coming out??? lmao. Tech 2 isnt even out yet and everyone is talking about stuff coming out soon that was planned AFTER tech 2.
things ive heard will be in shiva:
-titans
-dreadnought
-destroyer
-carrier
-more elite frigs
-paintshop^
-towing
-salvaging
-Elvis Presley...
I don't buy it for a second. I say shiva will have the deployable buildingstuff that that will be bout it...
Il be amazed if they manage to patch all of the deployable buildings in they have planned, at once. Judging by how slow new content, bugfixes and balancing has been upto this point i would say we should be very very happy if the deployable player owned structures all make it for shiva and if they dont cause tomany buttraping issues in the first 2 months ;)
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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WarHound
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Posted - 2004.05.03 00:48:00 -
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About the titans Linkage
Also note that they will cost billions and only mega corps will ever be able to afford to make them. The amount of structure and hull they have will make them be able to take a huge beating from many battleships. They have 8 high 8 medium and 8 low slots aswell as a huge insane cargo.
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shivan
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Posted - 2004.05.03 01:32:00 -
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As i have seen some stats for titans, (dont ask me where i cant remember and it was a while ago) they will have less hit points than a BS, however the minmatar titan has 8 high, with 8 turrents and 8 mid and 8 low. It had a cargo bay of roughly 500k, thats not enough space to carry 1 bs, but pleny for a fleet of crusier and frigetes.
The other possible thing for titans with there huge cargo bays is that fact that they may be used as diployable structure carries, as in say a corp wants to go mine ark and bistot at the very edges of the galaxy so as not to be bothered by other people, they could load up all there gear into a titan such as a mobile refinay, ship dock, control tower, mobile factory, senty guns, mobile warp disruptors and repulsion fields, and then go mine the ark. Then when they are finished they just pack everything away and off they go to find somewhere else to mine.
http://www.eve-online.com/features/shiva/deployables/
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.05.03 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Araskomiv
Edited by: Araskomiv on 02/05/2004 23:47:20
some1 told me that u'll be able to choose ur ships colors with the shiva patch
wonderin if ne1 nows if that tru or not
I don't think it will be the case. The last time a dev was asked why players couldn't repaint thier ships, the answer was something like "that would take too much ressources if every client had to load a custom skin for each ship present in system".
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2004.05.03 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Araskomiv
Edited by: Araskomiv on 02/05/2004 23:47:20
some1 told me that u'll be able to choose ur ships colors with the shiva patch
wonderin if ne1 nows if that tru or not
I don't think it will be the case. The last time a dev was asked why players couldn't repaint thier ships, the answer was something like "that would take too much ressources if every client had to load a custom skin for each ship present in system".
I don't think that has to be the case.
As you can have a pre stored pool of shapes and colors to chose from.
Kinda like the Vinyl in Need for Speed 2.
You allready do this whit the ships now.
The meshes and textures are stored in your computer.
The connection only sends a number represending that texture to your computer and the program displays the figure your seeing.
How much more this will effect the speed of the game is unsure.
I whouldn't think it whould effect it that much though.
But then again I'm no expert.
SoonÖ
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StarLite
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Posted - 2004.05.03 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: StarLite on 03/05/2004 10:30:26
a little quote about titans from the eve-site ;)
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Their value is indescribable. Functioning for those who own them as a mobile base of operations as well as a flagship, Titans turn the tides of war with their mere presence. Aside from their blistering armament and many-metres-thick armour, they boast the ability to transport entire fleets within their hulks across entire star systems. Their mind-boggling mass can cause small ships to become trapped in the gravity bow-wave before them. A few of these vessels are massive enough that their presence affects planetary tidal patterns. One notable incident occurred on the small agricultural world of Goral, where a Gallente Titan moving into orbit caused an abrupt shift in tides, which flooded crop fields and farmland. The decrease in food production meant that the entire system, which depended on Goral for food stock, had to be supplied by merchants or face starvation.
AKA:
Their *HUUUGGEE**
Their *POWERFULLLLL*
Their *DANGEROUS*
And...
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The sheer cost in resources, manpower and time, as well as the necessary technological knowledge, makes construction of a Titan-class vessel a venture only empires can usually fathom. Some of these mammoth vessels have taken decades to assemble.
Their *ULTRA-EXPENSIVE*
As for stats: The ones known now are mere placeholder stats, I guess Titan final stats won't even come close to current ones :)
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:03:00 -
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I know a dev will deleet it, cause they don't want titan pics out yet but here you go!
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:06:00 -
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all we got yet of tech 2 ships are some lousy frigates and you think about the introduction of titans ?
.. makes me smile
I¦d like to see some more elite frigates released and Tech 2 Cruisers being introduced.
after that we could care for more
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Narim
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:36:00 -
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It'll probably take at least a year before they get ingame, as they are planned for after kali. |
Aaron Rex
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
They will have to have some form of weakness if they can carry many battleships.
Today we have the "launch drones" function, in the future Titans will have the "launch battleships" function. lol.
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Aaron Rex
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Aaron Rex on 03/05/2004 11:50:16
Silly double post
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:55:00 -
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Only megacorps or very rich individuals will be able to get those....
I predict, if they get realeased most of those players that have the skill, will get one
Their is alot of wealth hidden out there, some of us, have planned for shiva, and we will be ready for the content of that patch.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
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Silex D'Arden
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Posted - 2004.05.03 12:46:00 -
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If the Titans are going to be able to carry frigates and possibly cruisers are we going to have to worry about corps going out to roid belts and strip minning them? I mean if you take your Titan into a nicely loaded 0.0 belt what's to stop them from stripping it down to dust?
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.05.03 13:18:00 -
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Why should we want to prevent them from being able to do that?
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Makhar
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Posted - 2004.05.03 14:49:00 -
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When Titans do eventually come out I'm guessing that they will include the mobile refining plants that we've heard about.
If it were me designing them then I would put in a new type of slot, something after high-slots which can be used for things like hanger bays to dock other ships, or a refining module, etc, but - that's me 8)
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dabster
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Posted - 2004.05.03 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Rex
Today we have the "launch drones" function, in the future Titans will have the "launch battleships" function. lol.
lol 
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Araskomiv
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Posted - 2004.05.03 18:22:00 -
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a little late but...
wut is towing???
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Pah Triac
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Posted - 2004.05.03 20:35:00 -
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Pulling something towards you (remember tractor beam)
they could say "your ship is being towed in side the station"
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Xavier Arron
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Posted - 2004.05.04 01:12:00 -
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Well i was under the impression Titans were coming out with Shiva, otherwise how do you transport and deploy all the deployable station components? (unless towing comes in i suppose).
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Lysender
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Posted - 2004.05.04 01:39:00 -
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Titans are over grown indys with 8/8/8 in slots. They have weak shields and armor. Its going to be real funny when some noob tries to use them for anything but mining or hauling.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.05.04 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Origim on 04/05/2004 01:51:16
Edited by: Origim on 04/05/2004 01:50:29
Originally by: Lysender
Titans are over grown indys with 8/8/8 in slots. They have weak shields and armor. Its going to be real funny when some noob tries to use them for anything but mining or hauling.
I can't imagine Titans having less hit pts than a BS.
The thought of a Multi-Billion ISK ship (That took months to assemble) having the honor of going up in flames first during a fleet battle....
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.05.04 03:05:00 -
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Everything I've seen and heard about titans point to 25,000+ hp for all systems, including 25,000+ for powergrid and insane CPU. Factor in the capacitor of about 10 battleships combined and you have a beast that can only be destroyed by a fleet.
Think of this setup:
8x tachyon beams
3x XL shield booster
3x tac shields of your choice
2x shield boost amplifier
8x power diag
10x heavy drones (with, I'm assuming, a fleet in reserve)
This setup can continuously heal as much shield damage as a fleet of about 10 battleships can dish out at once. The eight tachs can dish out more damage than any ship in the game.
TRUST me, I don't think these babies will be gimpy in combat. With the rumored price tag of 50 billion isk, I doubt anybody will be taking one out for a Sunday stroll without a massive escort, however.
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Lord Wimbishi
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Posted - 2004.05.04 09:26:00 -
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 I strongly think that the slots should be redefined due to these next series of ships coming out. There should be no way any of the ships right now be able to hold as much as a titan. The pure size of it would allow it to mount a whole lot of stuff. I figure the slots should all increase up to 10 max to reflect the awesome size of the titans. And for the new uber battleships coming out I think their slots need to be a bit more advanced for each of the races ships as well. for instance. Amarr ships have a huge amount of high slots as is. Would a dreadnaught still have the same firepower a Apoc would have? or the same number of turrets. I assume of all things their shields armor structure powergrid and capacitor will be much greater then the battleships. We all know though it just much matter of those if you don't have the slots to utilise the ships statistics. Otherwise the armagedon would be more useful if it wasn't so limited in what it could do compared to it's larger cousin the apocolypse. Also with the calidari Scorpian. The titan would be the most advanced vessel in space would it too have just the 8 slots a scorp would have in defense and the support of itself and the fleet? just a few things for thought
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
As i have seen some stats for titans, (dont ask me where i cant remember and it was a while ago) they will have less hit points than a BS, however the minmatar titan has 8 high, with 8 turrents and 8 mid and 8 low. It had a cargo bay of roughly 500k, thats not enough space to carry 1 bs, but pleny for a fleet of crusier and frigetes.
I seriously doubt they'd have 8, 8, & 8, but *IF* they did, you'll see people using 'em for AFK mining in Empire space.
It'd *REALLY* suck to lose a Titan.
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Der Ewige on 04/05/2004 13:58:35
Originally by: Cao Cao
Think of this setup:
8x tachyon beams
3x XL shield booster
3x tac shields of your choice
2x shield boost amplifier
8x power diag
10x heavy drones (with, I'm assuming, a fleet in reserve)
Thake another look at this Link.
As u will se on the stats of the titan. It only gots 2000 capa and 600 cpu so my question: How will u bring this 8 guns and 3 x'larg boosters online (requires kinda 1400 cpu) and how will u use them longer than 10 sec?? (this titan got even only the halv of capa(s as a normal ship)
I know that this stats arent the one wich the titans wil have when they go live, but they give quite an idea what they will be.
Heavy shilds, weak armor, weak fire power (unless u use missiles), giant cargo, and the jumpdrive ;)
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 04/05/2004 15:40:49
I had the oppertunity to fly a Titan in Chaos about a week ago (a Leviathan) and all I can say at this point is they need to do some more work on it. It moved very sluggishly but it was being bounced around by drones like styrofoam. =/
As for weak shields, when I flew it the Titan had 500,000 shields, but that could have been just for testing, and if not it could change since they're still in development.
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Amrone
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Posted - 2004.05.04 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Amrone on 04/05/2004 16:05:47
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8x tachyon beams
3x XL shield booster
3x tac shields of your choice
2x shield boost amplifier
8x power diag
10x heavy drones (with, I'm assuming, a fleet in reserve)
Titans stats when i looked only had 650CPU and 20-25k power grid dont think tht will work some how
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 16:18:00 -
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You might as well name the models Magnet 'cause that's what they're going to be, every piece of metal in the known universe will be drawn in to destroy it, yes even metal from way over at SWG.
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GM Rendo
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Posted - 2004.05.04 17:31:00 -
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Titans won't be introduced anytime soon I'm afraid and definitely not in shiva. The earliest would be next year as there is still a lot of things that need to be done before they arrive. Also remember that all the other classes will be available before the titans become available, such as battlecruisers and dreadnoughts. About the only thing finished now is the texture which actually hasn't been touched for quite some time. The caldari titan hasn't even been scaled yet (although it looks awfully cool and by far the best looking caldari ship . It will essentially be a big moving docking station. Slot ,shield, armor and CPU/Power hasn't been decided yet and will undoubtly change. So keep on dreaming, perhaps one of you will be able to fly in one in the future
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.05.04 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lysender
Titans are over grown indys with 8/8/8 in slots. They have weak shields and armor. Its going to be real funny when some noob tries to use them for anything but mining or hauling.
Yup... with the placeholder stats they are definatly super indys... I was one of the fortunates to snaffle 2 Titans back in beta (and no it wasn't hacked resource files to make a bs look like a titan). I flew the Gallente and the Minmatar ones.
To be honest though they are so buggy that they will most definately change a lot before they are released so any guesses now as to what they will be like is pretty much worthless. Three battleships killed the Solteur I had but it took AGES for them to kill off the last little bit of structure heh.
So those of you waiting for Titans had better watch out for the Porcine Aviators which will be released before Titans are added to Eve...
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Posted - 2004.05.04 18:02:00 -
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Nobody knows what a titan is really going to be like, except the devs. Its definitely going to be a tough thing to kill, though. And from what the devs say in the 'planned features' thing, its going to be horrible at short range, but perhaps good at long range combat.
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