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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:03:00 -
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Hello \☺.
I'm just looking at 2 different notebooks now that i'm intrested in. Not sure yet if i will buy one or when that will be.
But my questions is, what of those 2 notebooks here would you take when your after a small and light weight notebook?. I'm not after a gaming notebook, I just want a notebook that can do normal things like Photoshop'ing, playing movies, good with web browsing and all of those normal things.
And the laptop also have to look stylish and nice.
So the notebooks i have been looking at now is:
Sony VAIO VGN-TZ298N/XC
ASUS U1F
I know both of those notebooks is not very powerfull, but when i want a small notebook then it have to be like that then.
So what would you take of those 2?. You can also give me pros and cons on them to if you want.
And if you have other small notebooks that looks really nice, then please link to them here.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:03:00 -
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Hello \☺.
I'm just looking at 2 different notebooks now that i'm intrested in. Not sure yet if i will buy one or when that will be.
But my questions is, what of those 2 notebooks here would you take when your after a small and light weight notebook?. I'm not after a gaming notebook, I just want a notebook that can do normal things like Photoshop'ing, playing movies, good with web browsing and all of those normal things.
And the laptop also have to look stylish and nice.
So the notebooks i have been looking at now is:
Sony VAIO VGN-TZ298N/XC
ASUS U1F
I know both of those notebooks is not very powerfull, but when i want a small notebook then it have to be like that then.
So what would you take of those 2?. You can also give me pros and cons on them to if you want.
And if you have other small notebooks that looks really nice, then please link to them here.
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:26:00 -
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I'd say avoid the notebook and build a shuttle if you want something compact. A computer that you can't readily "futureproof" or do even simple hardware diagnostics on is worthless in spite of the aesthetic value, especially if you don't need it for anything vital.
If you have $4-6,000 in disposable income you can't spend, I recommend throwing it off a bridge before you buy a notebook. |
NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 22/05/2008 00:30:12
 Originally by: Erotic Irony
I'd say avoid the notebook and build a shuttle if you want something compact. A computer that you can't readily "futureproof" or do even simple hardware diagnostics on is worthless in spite of the aesthetic value, especially if you don't need it for anything vital.
If you have $4-6,000 in disposable income you can't spend, I recommend throwing it off a bridge before you buy a notebook.
Well i have had a Shuttle computer before, but i got bored of those and did buy a totally new computer, like i have now. So it will be a notebook anyways, because it will be nice to have something with me when i'm around traveling
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:56:00 -
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fully upgradable laptop
if only I had 5000$ :(
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:58:00 -
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You've basically already answered your own question.
Buy the laptop that balances weight with non-gaming features (with an emphasis on battery life).
If you're looking to do photoshopping, you'll need the most ram you can get. Other than that, all of the reasonably priced laptops do non-gaming just fine (so long as you don't buy a micro laptop).
I do want to reemphasize battery life. IMO, buying a better 6 or 7 cell battery (rather than a basic 3 cell) is better long term than having spent an extra 500 $ on components that only give 10-20% better performance. Batteries are heavy, but a power-less laptop is useless... being tied to a location so you can plug in your laptop is pretty lame :(
Personally, I'd order from Dell (or the like) and customize instead of buying a non-customizable one from a store.
Then again, I'd never buy a laptop that small.. I like large, easy to use laptops with large usable keyboards that don't cost more than 1200$ or so, have good sized screens (15.4") and have a long battery life. Well worth them weighing 5 or so pounds, imo given how more function they offer over something that looks nice and has annoyingly small keys/screens. Just an an fyi, my 9" dvd portable I use on trips for watching movies is still *really* small. You might want to see how 'big' 11.x " really is before spending the cash you're willing to spend.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 22/05/2008 01:07:46
Mr Friendly, you can get the same Sony laptop that i linked to with customized components to. Just look HERE.
Well i like Dell though, but not sure if you can get one notebook from them that are as small as the ASUS and Sony one.
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2008.05.22 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 22/05/2008 01:16:43
Mr Friendly, you can get the same Sony laptop that i linked to with customized components to. Just look HERE.
Well i like Dell though, but not sure if you can get one notebook from them that are as small as the ASUS and Sony one.
You're probably right Dell doesn't do small laptops, though I know other companies do...Have you looked at tablet pcs? They're pretty functional, even if screen quality isn't perfect because of the touch feature.
VAIOs look great, but it's pretty damned expensive for styling. I guess if you have the money to spend, why not?
Still, 11" is small, particularly if you want to do image editing and the like. Depends on your needs, I guess.
Course, they're light enough to float away on their own so w/e...
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 02:13:00 -
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I don't think the Tablet PCs are any usefull for me. But yeah they are cool
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.22 02:16:00 -
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you could get a mac (expensive but small as hell)
and just install windows.
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NightmareX
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2008.05.22 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
you could get a mac (expensive but small as hell)
and just install windows.
That's also an option. But the Mac have to be black though. Because i like black computers.
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Ryysa
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 08:24:00 -
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Dell XPS.
The small version.
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NightmareX
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2008.05.22 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
Dell XPS.
The small version.
Hmmm, i just sat up a Dell XPS laptop and customized it, and it got up to around 3200 dollar. And with that config, the Dell XPS is alot more powerfull than the ASUS and the Sony notebook, and it's cheaper.
But then, the Dell XPS weight 1.8 kg, while the Sony one is only 1.2 kg, and the ASUS one is 1.1 kg.
And i also like the design to the Sony notebook much much better than the Dell XPS one.
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Ryysa
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 22/05/2008 09:49:50
1) **** design - but anyway, dell XPS looks sexy imo. review,
2) Unless you are totally weak or something, the weight is not a problem. Or get a smaller batter if it's so important... |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.22 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 22/05/2008 14:17:20
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Ryysa
Dell XPS.
The small version.
Hmmm, i just sat up a Dell XPS laptop and customized it, and it got up to around 3200 dollar. And with that config, the Dell XPS is alot more powerfull than the ASUS and the Sony notebook, and it's cheaper.
But then, the Dell XPS weight 1.8 kg, while the Sony one is only 1.2 kg, and the ASUS one is 1.1 kg.
And i also like the design to the Sony notebook much much better than the Dell XPS one.
my XPS with a 8600, 2 gigs of ram, duocore 2.2 CPU, 15 inch screen, 160 GB drive.
1000$ what are you looking at?
This thing a gaming machine, it's not top top notch but a fully loaded 8600 is nothing to laugh at.
No way you got up to 3200 unless your going for a gaming MONSTER.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 22/05/2008 15:07:32
Originally by: MotherMoon
my XPS with a 8600, 2 gigs of ram, duocore 2.2 CPU, 15 inch screen, 160 GB drive.
1000$ what are you looking at?
This thing a gaming machine, it's not top top notch but a fully loaded 8600 is nothing to laugh at.
No way you got up to 3200 unless your going for a gaming MONSTER.
I'll guess you know that you have something called Customize on the Dell XPS notebooks . And around 3200 dollar was with the best of everything, only the computer with the best stuffs + some few accessories.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.05.22 15:17:00 -
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but I thought you were looking for a cheap non-gaming computer?
in other words comparing the price at it's highest seems silly to me.
oh and I need to ask my friend where the site was but I'm getting 300$ off with a coupon. There is this cool site that has coupon codes for the dell and asus sites.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.22 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
but I thought you were looking for a cheap non-gaming computer?
in other words comparing the price at it's highest seems silly to me.
oh and I need to ask my friend where the site was but I'm getting 300$ off with a coupon. There is this cool site that has coupon codes for the dell and asus sites.
Well if i want a small notebook like the Sony one, then it wont be cheap, so the price doesn't have anything to say for me, i'll just want a small notebook that are light weight and that are good and looks really nice.
I was just comparing the Dell XPS notebook to a Sony VAIO VGN-TZ298N/XC, and then said that the Dell XPS was even cheaper and better than the Sony VAIO VGN-TZ298N/XC.
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Phyridean
Lionsgate Ionic Dispersion
Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 17:06:00 -
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In my experience (4 sony laptops, all friends and associates -- none of those laptops is still running), Sony laptops tend to have cheap components, break easily, and just generally don't live up to my expectations of what a laptop should do.
I have limited experience with Asus laptops (2 family members, 1 coworker have them, but haven't for very long), but have found them to be solid machines. |
NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.23 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 23/05/2008 18:51:02
Hmm, i haven't found the Sony notebook anywhere to buy it here in Norway, so i have to buy it from USA or something.
But if i'm not to wrong, Sony Style USA doesn't deliver out of USA, so i will have to use a company that is called JetCarrier to get it here to Norway if i buy a notebook from Sony Style USA.
JetCarrier is a Norwegian company that are in USA, so when you buy from Sony Style USA for example, then you buy the notebook and make the deliver place where JetCarrier is in USA, and then JetCarrier will send it from USA to Norway via Airplane, via boats or cars / MC.
But the thing i'm not 100% sure about is if you have to have a credit card that also need to be registered in USA. So not sure if Sony Style USA will accept my credit card details then. If they accept my credit card, then everything is fine then.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.05.23 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
I'm not after a gaming notebook, I just want a notebook that can do normal things like Photoshop'ing, playing movies, good with web browsing and all of those normal things.
Am I the only one that read that sentence and thought "get something old for 50 bucks"?
I got me an old laptop from work, they wanted to throw away (because the hard drive was dying) for free, and it can do all you asked. After 6 months i finally REALLY had to replace the hd for 40.
it isnt upgradeable (because you wont find most of the parts for it) but hey, for the stuff you mentioned, it doesnt need to be.
i admit, it wont be very lightweight....
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 19:08:00 -
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I agree with P'uck that second hand is probably the answer, if you're not going for gaming. Check out the small ads and auction sites. If it doesn't need to be powerful, you can get very nice machines that were cutting edge a couple of years ago (small and lightweight included) for a fraction of what you'll pay for new.
Out of the two you posted, the ASUS is better, though, imo. ASUS are always good for portability. I wouldn't have minded me an Eee PC, if I were in the market for such a thing.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.23 19:35:00 -
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Heh.
Well like i said, the notebook need to be small and light weight. I don't want a notebook / laptop that looks like this.
For 11.1 inch notebook, it must not be more than 1.3-1.4 kg, and for 13.3 inch notebooks, it must not be more than 1.8-1.9 kg.
And for 13.3 inch notebooks the Dell XPS M1330 is very good. I'm sure i will go for that one if i'm gonna buy a 13.3 inch notebook.
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Terinnon
German Trading Association
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:18:00 -
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what is about the macbook air?
its slim and a light weight too...
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NightmareX
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Terinnon
what is about the macbook air?
its slim and a light weight too...
I know the MacBook Air is nice, but the only problem i see it have is External DVD drive. You don't have that problem with the Sony notebook.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.25 10:19:00 -
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I'm really close to buying a Dell XPS M1530. With what I spec'd on it it was like 2900. But that was with full RAM, big hard drive etc. Probably be more by the time I'm done depending on what else I get.
Now, as to old computers. The specific reason I'm buying this system now is that the PIII 650 I've been using for years won't download my e-mail any more. It seems that it just runs to slow for more than one message to come down before the connection times out.
Now it runs just fine as long as I don't have my virus checker loaded. It ran fine with the virus checker it came with
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they stopped supporting that version and I had to get a newer one which uses more memory.
THAT is the problem with older systems. If you can get by on the software they came with they are fine but if you need to run today's software on them you may end up with a problem.
If all I wanted to do was word processing I could still use the 5.0 MHz Z80B I got back in '83, though I might just have a problem trying to find a working printer it could talk to.
As to Sony's. I've been out of the loop for a while but a few years back, the people I knew who had Vaio's didn't like them.
We always had pretty good luck with Dell's Laptops though less so with their desk tops. Plastic cases. 
As to Mac's. Over the last 20 years or so I have on several occasion thought about getting a Mac, including just now. Each time, I just couldn't bring myself to pay a premium price for one. They aren't bad computers but they aren't as good as they're *****ed up to be either. The reason they're more stable is because they have vastly fewer software and hardware products to interface with. The same company that builds the hardware writes the OS. They SHOULD be more stable. But you're choices are limited in what they can use and run. They have ways of running Windows Apps but that interface is an added level of complexity (meaning open to more problems) that I could do without. Maybe one day I'll have lots of money I don't have a use for and I'll get one but it hasn't happened yet.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.05.25 14:07:00 -
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Quote:
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.33 GHz
WHAT THE HELL!
they even make a CPU this weak? what the hell would this run? it would barely support starcraft!
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NightmareX
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2008.05.25 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
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Intel Core 2 Duo 1.33 GHz
WHAT THE HELL!
they even make a CPU this weak? what the hell would this run? it would barely support starcraft!
Well, the Sony notebook is not meant to be used games on anyways.
Or as long i can log in on EVE and change skills and that on the notebook, then i'm happy.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.26 22:54:00 -
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Hmmm, i have found the Sony VAIO VGN-TZ298N/XC notebook on the Amazon.com web page HERE.
And i know they send stuffs to Norway from there, so i'll guess everything is fine then when i'm gonna buy me a notebook that i can't get in Norway.
But there is still one question i wonder on, you have this Sony VAIO VGN-TZ298N/XC and then you also have another version that is called Sony VAIO VGN-TZ32VN/X. Is there any difference on them except for that the TZ32VN/X have Built-in 3G Mobile Broadband that TZ298N/XC doesn't have?
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:18:00 -
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Now if you only have had the choice to take the Sony or the ASUS notebook, what would you take?.
Give me some reasons why you would take one of them over the second one etc if you can.
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