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Berious
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Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:21:00 -
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It wasn't necessarily a terrible idea but we're only one day after the elections and already the chair and another council member are bickering over the minutiae of rules and generally throwing their weight around in a very unconstructive manner. It's CAOD mk2 - and we all know how much intellegent debate comes out of that forum. I don't think individuals are going to be able to put their differences aside and represent concerns of the player base in such a bitter atmosphere. Entertaining to watch perhaps, but if CCP are planning to take the CSM seriously then that could mean trouble.
In it's place I suggest an ideas box of sorts, we could even use this forum. Then just put the most popular ideas/concerns to subscribers en mass with the voting system we just used for the elections.
Either that or just collect feedback as CCP always has which seems to have worked out more or less OK so far.
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Berious
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:42:00 -
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I'm not an alt ok just barely post so forgot to turn my "Real opinion inc" buttons on.
 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Who is Jade bickering with now? Link?
Last few pages of his campaign thread and in a couple of other places.
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Berious
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Berious on 22/05/2008 20:41:54
Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Originally by: Berious
already the chair and another council member are bickering over the minutiae of rules
AKA politics, AKA 'hashing out ideas...'
I have to ask you first: did you vote? Don't care whom for, but did you at all?
I did as it happens. Didn't expect it to turn into a facsimile of Prime Minsters Question's before they even started discussing any substantive issues however. If the CSMs can't even play nice with nothing at stake then Huston we have a problem! Either CCP will pay a bit of lip service to the whole project and we're wasting our time here, or, more worryingly, they'll really see it as some sort of filter for interaction with the subscribers and we're up the proverbial creek as our representatives argue bitterly over what biscuits to serve at council meetings.
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Berious
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Ok, then: i don't mean to be harsh but stay with me - you think it should be dropped because you don't think the ideas currently being discussed are important?
If you think about it a sec, that's a dangerous precedent: what happens when something you care about, or think is important to clear the air on, is discussed, and a hundred players post saying "screw this, it's pointless, drop the whole thing?"
I get where you're coming from, but my point was there isn't any substantive stuff on the table yet and it's already coming to blows. If they can't amicably arrange who gets the comfy leather chair and what are we getting for take-out then what chance do issues that could conceivably effect us in-game have? If the kids can't play nice, get 'em out of the sandbox!
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