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JVol
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:00:00 -
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Edited by: JVol on 23/05/2008 07:06:39
At fanfest last year a corpmate of mine suggested in a round table this idea: (gms said they LOVED it)
Basically, introduce bounty agents, you run missions for them and get lps, you use thos lp's to BUY the bounty on players who have bounty on them, and its transferable. The char with the bounty cannot collect his own bounty, only the person with 'rights' . The more of a bounty the more lp's it would cost. If he were killed at a gate for instance,by random campers, no bounty collected. Also, you could kill him in any system, regardless of sec level. I would add that I'd like to see bountys put on chars for anyhting that concord would kill them for. If a char with pos sec suicide ganks you, you can place a bounty on his head. Seems like a quick way to get some players involved in pvp imo and a way to actually make bounty hunting a real profession
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JVol
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:26:00 -
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no love?
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:29:00 -
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Interesting. It would certainly need some careful balancing but sounds good in theroy.
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:46:00 -
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Game Mechanic
- Player has security status(what level?) that allows other players to add ISK bounties on him.
- ANY Player pod kills character with bounty recieves ISK.
- Character with bounty CAN only be shot at if in 0.0 or sec standing is -5.0 or greater without CONCORD getting involved.
JVOL's FIX
1. Inroduce Bounty AGENTS: Use LPS to buy Hunting rights on bountied characters
2. Bounty Rights Transferable
3. Bounty ONLY collectable by Bounty hunters
4. Outlaw can be attack ANYWHERE @ ANYTIME by bounty hunters who have rights on them.
5. Bounties ADDED by concordable offenses
NOTABLES
1. Theoretically a character can collect on his own bounty with current system
2. Character can raise his sec status thus making it nearly impossible for someone to collect on his bounty in safe empire.
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JVOL ... sorry about the rehash .. its all about the presentation (to me atleast) ... BUT you (your buddy) have a GREAT Idea here ... I TOTALLY support it
I'd maybe add ...
1. Outlaw and Bounty hunter can see how many 'contracts' are taken out on the outlaw ... NOT WHO THOUGH ... let them look over thier shoulders 
Thanks,
PB
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The Jackhammer
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:48:00 -
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What happens to the OTHER character's when a contract/bounty is collected??
Did they waste thier LP?
Definate support ...
Thank-You,
The Jackhammer
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JVol
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Posted - 2008.05.24 23:04:00 -
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I like it pitboss !
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Ren Tales
Crimson Flag
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Posted - 2008.05.25 10:04:00 -
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Bounty hunting needs a fix, but this isn't it.
Personally I love the "when you blow up a player's ship, you get a portion of their bounty not exeding the value of the maximum insurance payout of the ship you destroyed"
Of course this presents a problem for people with high bounties who fly t2 ships, but thats a whole other issue.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.25 15:11:00 -
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Interesting idea. I'm not sure it's the best fix for the current lameness of bounties, but it's a good and interesting one.
 Originally by: The Jackhammer
What happens to the OTHER character's when a contract/bounty is collected??
Did they waste thier LP?
Definate support ...
The bounty doesn't pay out, at all, until the bounty hunter collects it.
Originally by: Ren Tales
Bounty hunting needs a fix, but this isn't it.
Personally I love the "when you blow up a player's ship, you get a portion of their bounty not exeding the value of the maximum insurance payout of the ship you destroyed"
Of course this presents a problem for people with high bounties who fly t2 ships, but thats a whole other issue.
Again, not a terrible idea. It'd require insurance to go to a market-based system, instead of "base values", but that's a needed change anyways. Actually.../me goes off to make insurance thread
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Piitaq
19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.25 15:34:00 -
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Great idea
As I understand it (correct me if Im wrong) people who get bounties placed on their heads, can have friends kill them and share the bounty money.
With this new system you propose, you need to be a "certified bounty hunter" instead of people getting the bounty as a side dish, when killing an outlaw. Plus it removes the problem I stated above.
I think the bounty hunter profession needs some love, and this proposal is a good way to kick it off. More stuff would be wanted for the bounty hunters.
 Better access to locator agents
A ranking system. (so you could contact the top dog, and have him go after your target)
The people placing bounties should know who is taking the job. (You could contact the bounty hunter and offer ships / equipment to aid him)
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Ethaet
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.05.25 16:11:00 -
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JVol
The IMorral MAjority
Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.05.26 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Piitaq
Great idea
As I understand it (correct me if Im wrong) people who get bounties placed on their heads, can have friends kill them and share the bounty money.
With this new system you propose, you need to be a "certified bounty hunter" instead of people getting the bounty as a side dish, when killing an outlaw. Plus it removes the problem I stated above.
I think the bounty hunter profession needs some love, and this proposal is a good way to kick it off. More stuff would be wanted for the bounty hunters.
Better access to locator agents
A ranking system. (so you could contact the top dog, and have him go after your target)
The people placing bounties should know who is taking the job. (You could contact the bounty hunter and offer ships / equipment to aid him)
Maybe the bounty agent would let you turn in your LP's for locator function thats much more accurate than the current locator agents? Also, I'd like to add that 0.0 and low sec should have the bounty agents as well, I wouldnt suuggest puting them in high sec.
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Jack Tremaine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.26 08:47:00 -
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I fully support this idea. C'mon CCP, make it happen. EVE is getting boring, a collection of carebears and gatecampers.
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Nariana Verex
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.26 16:56:00 -
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Bounty hunting definitely needs to be looked at. And there are quite a few good ideas in this thread now.
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Slickdrac
JET FORCE
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.05.26 17:10:00 -
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The bounty system is so broken right now it's pathetic, what's more pathetic is that it's been broken for so long. I've heard this idea before, and I definitely like it.
Originally by: The Jackhammer
What happens to the OTHER character's when a contract/bounty is collected??
Did they waste thier LP?
Definate support ...
Here's my two cents, presented in the form of a game show.
There are 20 contestants, and 20 boxes filled with various amounts of money at the end of 20 obstacle courses. Each contestant can choose which course to take. Obviously, everyone wants to do the course with the most money. Now, if you are a contestant, do you go for the biggest cash prize, or do you go for a smaller one, which may have fewer, if any, contestants going for it.
Risk vs Reward has to be applied to bounties. They have to lose their LP if they fail to complete the contract, otherwise every single bounty hunter will go for the biggest fish. Resulting in a broken system once again.
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joshmorris
AnTi.
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.05.26 22:51:00 -
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Yarr sounds goodish.
But i think pirates (- sec lvls) should be able to go into empire but shoot on sight by anybody (not instapwned by concord / police).
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Mickey Simon
Asran Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.05.27 10:11:00 -
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I'm not sure if I completely agree. For instance, I believe bounties should be huntable by anyone anywhere without repercussion, and that bounties should not be payed to corp members (and by extension, perhaps alliance members and rookie corp members) to reduce exploitation.
The ideas you have proposed are certainly a step in the right direction though.
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K1773R
Xzerion Special Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.27 10:34:00 -
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Wont this just encourage ppl to put low bountys on all the pirates they see and buy the bounty for a very low cost of LP's?
And keep ppl from putting high bounty's on pirates they want dead?
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Kyle Frost
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.27 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Frost on 27/05/2008 11:02:41
Supported. Some very good ideas by JVol and the Pitboss. 1 question though - how do you earn those LPs ? You are going to do missions against NPCs or ? Oh and the poster above me has a valid point - this has to be worked out.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:09:00 -
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I like it.
Very much so.
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:44:00 -
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I will apologize for raining on peoples parade on this one cause I like the idea, but my only problem is mixing PvP and carebear methodologies. If I'm a "bounty hunter" I would not want to grind missions for my next kill this would make it really unattractive. So mild fail.
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The RedPlague
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Holymight
I will apologize for raining on peoples parade on this one cause I like the idea, but my only problem is mixing PvP and carebear methodologies. If I'm a "bounty hunter" I would not want to grind missions for my next kill this would make it really unattractive. So mild fail.
Great point ... this could be the gateway to PVP ccp can introduce for PVE gaming styles ...
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.05.28 23:47:00 -
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Introducing new players to PvP is a good thing but to alienate old players from something they have been asking for, for a long time is not a good idea in any way shape or form.
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JVol
The IMorral MAjority
Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.05.28 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Holymight
I will apologize for raining on peoples parade on this one cause I like the idea, but my only problem is mixing PvP and carebear methodologies. If I'm a "bounty hunter" I would not want to grind missions for my next kill this would make it really unattractive. So mild fail.
I dunno, the prospect of hunting down real players is far more motivation than any current pve missions offer atm (for me). Maybe the lp's requirements are very low to get pvp easy, but good missions for the pve grinders. Also maybe make like 5X's your lps back for actually killing the bounty, so as long as your mildly successful you don't have to grind missions?
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.28 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: JVol
Also maybe make like 5X's your lps back for actually killing the bounty, so as long as your mildly successful you don't have to grind missions?
Now this I like.
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Wu Jian
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.29 00:26:00 -
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/support bounty hunting profession changes.
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.05.29 00:50:00 -
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Yes that would improve it somewhat, but I really don't like any form of PVE if I can help it. I've done my fair share mainly for datacore standing. I really want to see bounty hunting revamped and made viable more than anything else in this game, bugs and all but not sure if this is solution.
Now my problems and I had similar issue with Jade's idea in his blog. In order to collect a bounty you have to podkill under no circumstances can you podkill in empire without taking a massive sec-hit and getting concorded so how do you propose attaching bounties to said kill without podding. This system is saying I collect the bounty if I blow up his ship, so do I have to do a certain Meta amount of damage to the person to collect the bounty?
If Im just voting for bounty hunting to be revamped I vote yes if I am voting for this as a solution no unfortunately.
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Tom Willson
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Posted - 2008.05.29 01:08:00 -
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Interesting... It would actually make it possible for people to become bounty hunters and that's quite a good idea. Me likes.
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JVol
The IMorral MAjority
Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.05.29 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Holymight
Yes that would improve it somewhat, but I really don't like any form of PVE if I can help it. I've done my fair share mainly for datacore standing. I really want to see bounty hunting revamped and made viable more than anything else in this game, bugs and all but not sure if this is solution.
Now my problems and I had similar issue with Jade's idea in his blog. In order to collect a bounty you have to podkill under no circumstances can you podkill in empire without taking a massive sec-hit and getting concorded so how do you propose attaching bounties to said kill without podding. This system is saying I collect the bounty if I blow up his ship, so do I have to do a certain Meta amount of damage to the person to collect the bounty?
If Im just voting for bounty hunting to be revamped I vote yes if I am voting for this as a solution no unfortunately.
No, if you get a bounty on you, I wouldnt wear your good implants untill its settled.. bounty=pod kill, no sec loss. Dont do things that get bountys on you if you dont like it :)
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.05.29 02:38:00 -
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Ok well I'm still not voting cause I would have to Pve to get these killrights. But its a good idea.
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.05.29 02:48:00 -
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How about if I have killrights on someone I can use them to setup a contract to the highest bidder to buy it off me, or I can offer people ISK to complete the killright. If Im offering the "Mark" is hidden to prevent alt killing yourself and the Marks online activity is shown. These contracts can only be collected by Bounty hunters working for Concord & the higher your sec standing the better contracts are on offer to you.
The first way means people who just got suicide ganked can make some money back on their loss or transfer killrights to their buddies.
Offering ISK will be more complex and needs to be looked at carefully so it can't be abused.
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