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Jadyn Vas	Posted - 2008.05.24 03:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Jadyn Vas on 24/05/2008 03:46:42 I am a new player (roughly 3 weeks). I am wanting a list of ships that are considered the "best" for solo pvp. I am assuming they would have to be frigate, cruiser, or HAC (would like to know some in each category). Basically.... Best solo frigate? Best solo cruiser? I am assuming Vagabond best solo HAC. Best solo interceptor? So, in my time with EVE, I want to be able to solo viably and have fun. Also, I want to be viable in a "blob" later with a large ship. I also want to be able to viably do level 3 and level 4 missions solo. ---------------------------------------- I am a Minmatar, and I am kind of regretting my desicion, but I can easily cross train still at this point. Only reason I am worried is because I heard BC and larger Minnie's start to suck. I don't know what to do. I want to be viable at all levels, and it sounds like Minmatar's have many problems. Should I start cross training? Seems like Gallente would be easiest for me to cross train too (skill and RP). Edit: As you can see, I really just want some direction. There are times I like to solo, times I want mass pvp, and I will always need to be able to run missions. On top of the ship questions I asked earlier.
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.24 03:47:00 - [2] Edited by: Hannobaal on 24/05/2008 03:47:42 Originally by: Jadyn Vas Best solo frigate? (Assuming you mean tech 1 frigate:) Rifter. I think that's the only one of your questions there that can be given a single answer.
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.05.24 03:51:00 - [3] Matar kick ass until you hit the battleship class. However, they cross train to Caldari pretty well (can make use of shield tanking skills easily). I have a Matar char that pilots t2 cruisers/frigates but also can fly a raven with t2 cruise/torp, and it works quite well. Try a rifter, then a rupture (possibly stabber). When you train for t2 Matar cruisers, you'll have plenty of options. The factions imo are fairly balanced for pvp unti you hit the BS class (and artillery is a little gimp atm), but Matar have lots of good choices.
ThaDollaGenerale Endless Destruction Total Eclipse Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.24 03:51:00 - [4] Frig: Rifter Cruiser: Thorax or Vexor, depends on your flavor. Solo Inty: I dunno, I only fly crows and I know that's not a soloable inty. HAC: For solo work, Ishtar. They're just sexy. But seriously, get into a corp, make some friends. EVE is 150X better when you play with good people.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.24 04:06:00 - [5] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Frig: Rifter Cruiser: Thorax or Vexor, depends on your flavor. Solo Inty: I dunno, I only fly crows and I know that's not a soloable inty. HAC: For solo work, Ishtar. They're just sexy. But seriously, get into a corp, make some friends. EVE is 150X better when you play with good people. Hey, I've personally solo killed a cormorant (primaried his ...), kestrel, pod, ibis, and prophecy in my Crow. Solo. At the same time. (no, srsly... I was lol'ing pretty hard) -Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved.
Joe Starbreaker	Posted - 2008.05.24 04:09:00 - [6] Best solo frigate? Rifter Best solo cruiser? Arbitrator Best solo HAC? Honey, solo PVP is fun but it's also a form of suicide. In EVE, using treachery and bringing friends are standard parts of the equation, and while you may find some people to duel you in cheap ships, nobody's going to be "honorable" enough to let your HAC live if they can stop it. Never go into solo PVP flying something you don't want blown up! Vagabond may indeed be the best choice, if only because it's the best HAC at escaping! ---------------- [insert signature here]
AstroPhobic	Posted - 2008.05.24 04:09:00 - [7] Inty: Crusader, easily. Taranis second. Frigate: Rifter is pretty sexy, but punisher and kestrel are good too. Cruiser: Rupture is a good ship, as the thorax, vexor and arbitrator. HAC: Vaga, Ishtar, Zealot Recon: Curse Astro
Jadyn Vas	Posted - 2008.05.24 04:13:00 - [8] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Frig: Rifter Cruiser: Thorax or Vexor, depends on your flavor. Solo Inty: I dunno, I only fly crows and I know that's not a soloable inty. HAC: For solo work, Ishtar. They're just sexy. But seriously, get into a corp, make some friends. EVE is 150X better when you play with good people. I do plan on joining a corp, I am still trying to decide on a corp. I feel like no matter what race I am I can contribute with large scale pvp. I dont think anyone solo pvps in a BC or BS from what I understand. That is why I am trying to figure out what I want to do when it comes to HACs, inties, cruisers, and frigates (which is what I believe the primary solo pvp ships). Also, that is why I wonder if I should stick with Minmatar, especially if nano is nerfed like everybody is saying.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.24 04:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Jadyn Vas I do plan on joining a corp, I am still trying to decide on a corp. I personally can recommend: - The Avalon Foundation (Great bunch of guys, office in Nakugard area) - Blacksea Industries (Equally great bunch of guys, office in Horkissen) Blacksea is looking for experience, but Avalon might have some room to teach you the ropes. Noob corps consistently have terrible information spouted in corp. Quote: I feel like no matter what race I am I can contribute with large scale pvp. Sortof, sure. 0.0 alliances are always after fleet snipers, and the Apoc is king and the Tempest/Mael are the worst amongst them right now. Quote: I dont think anyone solo pvps in a BC or BS from what I understand. If you have the skills to fly a BS effectively, you're better off flying (and losing) a BS than a HAC. It's much, much cheaper. That said, HACs don't tend to be caught by the same kinds of traps that catch BS's. Mobility and all that. Quote: Also, that is why I wonder if I should stick with Minmatar, especially if nano is nerfed like everybody is saying. Um, that kinda depends how they do it. If they do it as they have suggested, I'd say no, you'll be better off on another race. Amarr and Caldari are currently in ascendant right now, but who knows how long that will remain? -Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved.
Trefnis R.U.S.T. Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Jadyn Vas I feel like no matter what race I am I can contribute with large scale pvp. Sortof, sure. 0.0 alliances are always after fleet snipers, and the Apoc is king and the Tempest/Mael are the worst amongst them right now.-Liang You just need to know that in the time it takes you to get a t2 fleet sniping pest/mael things may change drasticly
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.05.24 07:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Trefnis You just need to know that in the time it takes you to get a t2 fleet sniping pest/mael things may change drasticly That's true, but it took the Amarrians ages of whining to get the Apoc boosted. ^_^ -Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved.
Scots Crusader Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.05.24 08:36:00 - [12] Jadyn, as you can tell everyone will have a different opinion as to best/worst. IMHO, there is no best/worst there is only ships YOU enjoy flying. You will develope a style that suits you and thus ships you prefer to fly, go with this. The whole "train for X race as it is FOTM" is rubbish. All races have something going for them, all have ships that are good, you just need to develope your style and go with it. ----------------------------------------------- O wad some power, the giftie gie us, To see oursels as ithers see
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.24 08:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Jadyn Vas I do plan on joining a corp, I am still trying to decide on a corp. I personally can recommend: - The Avalon Foundation (Great bunch of guys, office in Nakugard area) - Blacksea Industries (Equally great bunch of guys, office in Horkissen) Blacksea is looking for experience, but Avalon might have some room to teach you the ropes. Noob corps consistently have terrible information spouted in corp. Quote: I feel like no matter what race I am I can contribute with large scale pvp. Sortof, sure. 0.0 alliances are always after fleet snipers, and the Apoc is king and the Tempest/Mael are the worst amongst them right now. Quote: I dont think anyone solo pvps in a BC or BS from what I understand. If you have the skills to fly a BS effectively, you're better off flying (and losing) a BS than a HAC. It's much, much cheaper. That said, HACs don't tend to be caught by the same kinds of traps that catch BS's. Mobility and all that. Quote: Also, that is why I wonder if I should stick with Minmatar, especially if nano is nerfed like everybody is saying. Um, that kinda depends how they do it. If they do it as they have suggested, I'd say no, you'll be better off on another race. Amarr and Caldari are currently in ascendant right now, but who knows how long that will remain? -Liang about joining a corp at least try and make sure they are somewhat competent, doubt they will know everything but some things are fun to learn together. competent as in have more structure than hey we have a 10% tax and well the ceo has some nice ships every race can contribute in some way, and in my mind the maelstrom is far from the worst sniper. hell there are posts around saying its the best. no cap use on turrets is a big plus. and w/e i started specing for amarr before the changes were announced, and before the major whining started (or maybe i just wasnt' aware of it), sure there was some, everyone was saying train gallente or minmatar for pvp. everything is a lot more balanced than most people would lead you to believe. and think of looking at things that work well in a small group situation rather than solo.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.24 09:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Scots Crusader Jadyn, as you can tell everyone will have a different opinion as to best/worst. IMHO, there is no best/worst there is only ships YOU enjoy flying. You will develope a style that suits you and thus ships you prefer to fly, go with this. The whole "train for X race as it is FOTM" is rubbish. All races have something going for them, all have ships that are good, you just need to develope your style and go with it. hell yes! my style is to sit still and have lots of gank, geddons, abaddons, megathrons (domi could go here but im used to fighting under gate guns), maelstroms, typhoons, ravens. I would fly anyone of these ships (can currently only fly 2, and not to their full powers yet ). oh and can you tell i like battleships hell I'd fly just about anything other than lv 1 bcs, and most t1 cruisers/frigs (thorax, rupture, vexor, arbitrator are just sweet though).
Jadyn Vas	Posted - 2008.05.24 14:41:00 - [15] I am not really a "real" role player, but I do like to at least slightly follow some of the back story, and since I like how Gallente ships look and they are closely related to the Minmatar, I think I am going to start going for Gallente interceptors immediately. I am happy with Minmatar Frig 4, because I really do like the Rifter. I have also done more with armor tanking so far anyway. So, only ships I have trained I may not use as much is Minmatar cruiser 3.
Rosalia Vannetti	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:26:00 - [16] sorry no solo pwn mobile here. only was mega in the old gold gallente time.... but if u want for 4000 gold prices you can buy a dark arch mage holy shielded RAVEN whit mighty launchers and the inventory full of nature's magic missiles seriously all depend on your experience and your character skils some ship are just more noob friendly than others like rifter others need a great experience and many many skillpoints like the typhoon. the only good thing you can do is chose the race which has most of the ship you like and specialize in.
Arktiger Xeno Tech Corp United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.05.24 15:35:00 - [17] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Frig: Rifter Cruiser: Thorax or Vexor, depends on your flavor. Solo Inty: I dunno, I only fly crows and I know that's not a soloable inty. HAC: For solo work, Ishtar. They're just sexy. But seriously, get into a corp, make some friends. EVE is 1000X better when you play with good people. Fixed. :)
Garmon Heretic Army	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:24:00 - [18] Best solo cruiser : Rupture imo It's a lot more versatile than most cruisers __________________________________ Vids about me raping peeps in my trusty battle boat
Furb Killer The Peacekeeper Core	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:31:00 - [19] In low sec BC are imo great for solo pvp. Downside is that i have irritating habbit that i always want to rig everything BC and larger, so they become expensive, and when i lose them i got to get isk again and i am too lazy to do that. So i usually stick to smaller ships, but imo BCs are good for solo pvp, especially with all the cruisers being used.
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:35:00 - [20] Originally by: AstroPhobic Inty: Crusader, easily. Taranis second. Frigate: Rifter is pretty sexy, but punisher and kestrel are good too. Cruiser: Rupture is a good ship, as the thorax, vexor and arbitrator. HAC: Vaga, Ishtar, Zealot Recon: Curse Astro I agree with this, altho I would say Taranis is better than sader, rifter is best frig, and stabber / vexor / arbitrator are best cruisers.
Jadyn Vas	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Rosalia Vannetti sorry no solo pwn mobile here. only was mega in the old gold gallente time.... but if u want for 4000 gold prices you can buy a dark arch mage holy shielded RAVEN whit mighty launchers and the inventory full of nature's magic missiles seriously all depend on your experience and your character skils some ship are just more noob friendly than others like rifter others need a great experience and many many skillpoints like the typhoon. the only good thing you can do is chose the race which has most of the ship you like and specialize in. Now I didn't ask for a solo pwn mobile, I have at least learned that much about this game I just want to use what race can hold its own solo pretty decent up to BCs (BCs because after the previous post I can understand why they are useful). Is it possible to legally solo pvp without being in 0.0? I believe in low sec it is still illegal from what I understand. Just CONCORD won't show up. I want to keep a good security status though and not have bounties on my head.
Furb Killer The Peacekeeper Core	Posted - 2008.05.24 16:46:00 - [22] Find a relative quiet system with some pirates, go to highest belt in list, wait till pirate comes and attacks you. Did that for a while, worked great. But now most pirates know me so we are talking with each other in local instead of fighting
Feilamya Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:05:00 - [23] - Minmatar BCs don't suck - It's not nanos, it's polycarbons, stupid! - Polycarbons won't be nerfed (yet), people are just whining much about them - Minmatar is NOT all amout nanos and speed - Cross-training? Why not? If you can fly Minmatar, you can fly them all Some advice for the OP: - Don't give too much about other peoples' opinions. - Ignore all threads with "nano" in the subject. Really, ignore them. There's nothing in them that you might ever miss. Period. - If you like to PVP solo, get a friend and PVP as a duo. It's 183446589¯032 times more effective and more fun. - A corp might not help you there because not every corp has people that are up to every **** you are up to (which is not the corp's fault but yours, for being a solo jerk). Get some of your RL friends or friends from other games to play EVE with you. That way you can have a reliable wingman. (My wingman went off to play WoW. I set him to -10, and if he ever shows his face in EVE again, I will hunt him down and bust his balls)
Dheorl The Scope	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:12:00 - [24] Frigate: any of the teir 3 ones work well, as well as the kessy and the incursus. Inty: I find missile crow and rocket malediction can both work well. Taranis isn't bad either but I prefer my rocket malediction (even for fighting in web range).
Makender	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:22:00 - [25] I dual-box and was wondering if there were any suggestions, along the lines of this thread, for two-character-soloing. Both are Caldari and while one character is geared towards fighting the other is more given to mining/refining/researching. Any specific advice would be appreciated. :D
Furb Killer The Peacekeeper Core	Posted - 2008.05.24 17:26:00 - [26] An often made error. When you are using 2 ships, it isnt solo'ing anymore, so it also has very little overlap with this topic. Best is probably to train your mining alt do blackbird. Then you just need a ship that can deal much dps and tackle, with remaining mid slots used on buffer tank.
Ipos	Posted - 2008.05.24 18:00:00 - [27] Imo, Inty: Crow (**** the haters) Cruiser: Vexor (1600mm plate and small guns) BC: Cane HAC: Sacri (all-round that performs in all types of space) BS: Domi (cost of loosing ship taken into account) Some underrated solo PvP ships are imo Myrm, Raven and Drake.
Jadyn Vas	Posted - 2008.05.25 01:54:00 - [28] Well, T2 ships seem too big of a commiment at this point (other than Interceptor), both time and ISK-wise. Cruiser V is just too much when I have so many other skills I NEED at this point. Am I doing myself a disservice by ignoring these? I just want to work my way to BS's so I can do some damage in fleet battles.
Raymond Sterns Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.05.25 02:41:00 - [29] I just got on a Crow, from what I heard they have nice DPS and don't have to worry about speed because of missiles. _
Niffetin Omni Research	Posted - 2008.05.25 10:32:00 - [30] Originally by: Raymond Sterns I just got on a Crow, from what I heard they have nice DPS and don't have to worry about speed because of missiles. Crow sucks, simple as that. - Teeheee! mematar's Video Archive

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