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Stevens
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Posted - 2008.05.25 07:40:00 -
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Privateers were never really abusing the system either. They were just declaring a lot of wars. Now IVY is using it to protect themselves from wars which is clearly not the intent of it.
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.25 20:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Kelduum Revaan
The mechanics behind this were submitted as Bug Report 56896 for clarification, and it was confirmed that it was by design.
You need to get off your high horse throwing out bug report numbers. This wouldn't be the first time a clueless bug hunter/game master claimed something was an exploit just to have it changed in a short time spam claiming it was an exploit. So I can go two quite humorous ways with this.
1. Petition a gm and escalate it until I get a GM to claim it is an exploit (Protip I'm not a priv and even more IAC gets decced by them enough for me to hate them)
2. You can give me the name of the Bug Hunter and I can say he called it legit to benifit himself in Ivy League and get a hold of Internal Affairs. They have an amazing turn around time (24-48 hours) and IA will get it fixed.
Your choice.
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.25 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Brandwood
an intresting post.
What do you mean?
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.25 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Stevens on 25/05/2008 22:19:39
Started my 'crusade' of forcing CCPs hand by reporting http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=780616&page=2#49 for clearly not being a duplicate topic as Hooch didn't mention IVY.
Seriously talking about it on the forums doesn't get things done. Making every team in CCP look at the problem (mods, devs, gms, IA) means eventually they will get sick of dealing with the topic and actually take a real look at it. You should try it sometime.
Or as the goon said let goons do it so BoB can whine about it and get it fixed. Both are good solutions.
Edit: As a note to the mods there is nothing wrong with this post so please don't waste your time finding a hair brained reason to remove it, I don't like having to contact CCP to get obvious game issues fixed when the forum outrage should be enough but whatever gets stuff done.
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.26 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Stevens on 26/05/2008 18:54:03
Originally by: Stevens
Started my 'crusade' of forcing CCPs hand by reporting http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=780616&page=2#49 for clearly not being a duplicate topic as Hooch didn't mention IVY.
Seriously talking about it on the forums doesn't get things done. Making every team in CCP look at the problem (mods, devs, gms, IA) means eventually they will get sick of dealing with the topic and actually take a real look at it. You should try it sometime.
I know quoting myself is weird but whatever.
Originally by: Christian Danhill
Hi,
This situation has been classed as an exploit, therefore the thread will not be opened.
Best regards,
Christian Danhill
Community Manager
Wonder how Ivy will respond to this.
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Originally by: Faife
^^ quoting of GM communications above me
Quoting Non GM communications :)
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.26 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke
So one non-GM has said it's kosher, and one non-GM has said it's not. Could we get a coin toss to decide it?
That was basically my point on the whole issue. With Ivy touting its not an exploit I decided to go ahead and get someone to say it was an exploit to point out how neither of these people really have the say on whether or not it is an exploit
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.27 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Cleaned
Please wait for the official announcement by the GMs, the process has already started to review the matter, posting multiple threads about the subject and highlighting alleged inconsistencies between CCP employees and ISD volunteers detracts from the message you're attempting to make.
I wasn't pointing out the inconsistencies as more pointing out the information I received from an actual CCP employee.
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.27 17:01:00 -
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The ammount of idiocy in this thread is growing out of controlPeople who are saying this have a very warped definition of what an exploit is.
1. The war decs being a different cost than the dev blog is definetly not an exploit. I can't even begin to fathom how people can say privateers are exploiting a game mechanic that was changed solely due to them. If CCP coded it wrong its not like they can go say "here is the extra isk we owe you concord." Kelduum Revaan can argue that privs didn't bug report it but everyone here knows a minor issue like this will just get side boarded by ccp.
2. The original Privateer Wars were not an abuse of the mechanics just a creative use. Ya you might try to claim thats the same as ivy but the difference between privs and ivy is the priv wars were used for wars and the ivy alt wars are used to artifically iflate the cost. Thats what differentiates the two from abuse of game mechanics and creative use. Nanos are a good example of creative use (or oversized mwds)
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Stevens
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.28 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Leto Becken
Everyone should remember that currently this is not a exploit. Consider it on the same level as empire suiciding, but until CCP says that it's a exploit, it's a perfectly valid tactic. I applaud the Uni for discovering this and using it to financially strike back at your aggressors, this is war and you pulled out all the weapons.
Hate to tell you it has been declared an exploit. Try to keep up.
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