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          Nvermind 
          United Quorum of Nine Kingdom of Redemption
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 21:47:00 -
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          if you can PK in FW, thats gonna make it really difficult for new players to train skills...
  well maybe not difficult - but LONGER. What about all those implants that noobs grind storylines for? Or spend 50mill+ on?
  Sorry of a dev blog has overed this - if so i haven't seen it!
 
  Cheers
  Rigour
  PS: I love the idea of FW. Im just curious  
  - Missioner - miner - all round nice guy -
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          Hannobaal 
            Shadow Forces Inc.
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 22:03:00 -
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          Edited by: Hannobaal on 25/05/2008 22:03:16 I would refuse to participate on pure principle if they prohibit podding (which isn't even possible to do in the first place).
 
  Don't be such a wuzz. It's very easy to avoid being podded in low sec, and in either case if you're afraid of being podded don't use implants or use a special jump clone without implants when you're fighting. How do you think those of us who play in 0.0 (with bubbles and what not) get by?
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          Ethaet 
            Aliastra
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 22:10:00 -
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          fairly well known trick: when going down, keep spamming warp at a station/gate as you go down, if you do it enough then a warp command should get through the lag and you warp off. -------------------------------------------------------------- Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. There you go. Now that wasn't so hard   | 
      
      
      
          
          Arana Tellen 
            The Blackguard Wolves
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 22:11:00 -
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          If you are podded in low sec, YOU made a mistake even after the first one of getting caught. ---------------------------------
  Oh noes!
 
   Originally by: CCP Greyscale *moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
 
 
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          Valkazm 
            Eve Defence Force Insurgency
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 22:45:00 -
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          pfft i cant have implants beacuse im waring in 0.0 ... why would you get special terms of saving your implants .. 
  - Hold fire amarrians he might have implants 
  - Your right commander we wouldnt want him to lose them all ships disengage .......................................
 
 
   Quote: CCP Navigator mail at [email protected] for isk
 
 
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          Amberly Coteaz 
            Tarnak inc. The Nexus Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 23:02:00 -
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          Outside of 0.0 only really bad lag and smartbombs can get your pod killed.
  If you find yourself in a fair fight, something has gone wrong | 
      
      
      
          
          Gus Morgan 
          Genos Occidere
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 23:46:00 -
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          incompetence is quite a big threat too.
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          Spaztick 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.25 23:48:00 -
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          You should never get podded outside of 0.0 ever. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. | 
      
      
      
          
          Shakka Zulu 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 00:28:00 -
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          Edited by: Shakka Zulu on 26/05/2008 00:29:44 Oh, nevermind.
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          Celeste Coeval 
          The Gosimer and Scarab
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 02:16:00 -
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            Originally by: Amberly Coteaz Outside of 0.0 only really bad lag and smartbombs can get your pod killed.
 
 
  Misinformation ftw.
   Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
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          Triksterism 
            Image Not Found
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 02:19:00 -
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            Originally by: Nvermind if you can PK in FW, thats gonna make it really difficult for new players to train skills...
  well maybe not difficult - but LONGER. What about all those implants that noobs grind storylines for? Or spend 50mill+ on?
  Sorry of a dev blog has overed this - if so i haven't seen it!
 
  Cheers
  Rigour
  PS: I love the idea of FW. Im just curious  
 
 
  I can think of a few answers to this 'problem'
  1) Don't get podded. The 'jam *warpto* button' method is my favorite (Do it when you know you're going down aka before you're in your pod 2) Use jumpclones. Train it up. Have a jumpclone with your fancy +5 learnings and then a clone with your combat implants or no implants. Up to you. 3) Ctrl + Q ---------------------------------------
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          RigelKentaurus 
          Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 02:29:00 -
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          To those who talk about jump clones, the OP mentionned new players, and unless I missed something in the last devblogs, explaining how being in a militia will let you create jump clones easily, I doubt new players will have the standings needed to make one. _________
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          Hannobaal 
            Shadow Forces Inc.
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 03:55:00 -
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            Originally by: RigelKentaurus To those who talk about jump clones, the OP mentionned new players, and unless I missed something in the last devblogs, explaining how being in a militia will let you create jump clones easily, I doubt new players will have the standings needed to make one.
 
 
  However, people that new to the game don't have 50 mil worth of implants plugged in either.
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          Vibora BR 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 05:05:00 -
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            Originally by: Amberly Coteaz Outside of 0.0 only really bad lag and smartbombs can get your pod killed.
 
 
  This is exactly how they pod killed me in low sec.
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          F'nog 
            Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 05:21:00 -
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          Edited by: F''nog on 26/05/2008 05:21:22
   Originally by: Hannobaal
   Originally by: RigelKentaurus To those who talk about jump clones, the OP mentionned new players, and unless I missed something in the last devblogs, explaining how being in a militia will let you create jump clones easily, I doubt new players will have the standings needed to make one.
 
 
  However, people that new to the game don't have 50 mil worth of implants plugged in either.
 
 
  Yeah, complaining that new players can't use their +5 implants is kind of an oxymoron, no?
  PS - I'm 4+ years old, and I've done just fine without implants this whole time.
 
 
   Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
  F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said 
 
 
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          Chainsaw Plankton 
          IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 05:38:00 -
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            Originally by: Triksterism
 
  3) Ctrl + Q
 
 
  and thats when I scan you down  
 
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          Landrassa 
          Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 08:34:00 -
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            Originally by: Amberly Coteaz Outside of 0.0 only really bad lag and smartbombs can get your pod killed.
 
 
  Ehmm, you might want to include a really bad case of the shakes in that list  
  As far as getting a rush goes, getting beaten in a really close fight still beats the easy gank in my book.
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          CrayC 
            CrayC Inc.
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 09:38:00 -
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            Originally by: Nvermind if you can PK in FW, thats gonna make it really difficult for new players to train skills...
 
 
  Only if they are STUPID enough to join Factional Warfare and becoming valid targets just about everywhere, when they aren't ready for it.
  For FW to have ANY effect on new players, when talking combat, they have to actually join FW. If they don't, it's normal EVE - you're a target everywhere, but you have some protection in highsec. If they do join, it's FW EVE - you're a target everywhere and it's kill or be killed...
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          Riho 
            Mercenary Forces Privateer Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.05.26 09:55:00 -
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            Originally by: Nvermind if you can PK in FW, thats gonna make it really difficult for new players to train skills...
  well maybe not difficult - but LONGER. What about all those implants that noobs grind storylines for? Or spend 50mill+ on?
  Sorry of a dev blog has overed this - if so i haven't seen it!
 
  Cheers
  Rigour
  PS: I love the idea of FW. Im just curious  
 
 
  dunno.. only idiots lose pods in high sec. other cause is lag.
  i havent lost a pod in high sec for the last 2 years + i have been pvping ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer... 
 
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