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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:18:00 -
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Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.
Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.
The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.
Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it!
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
502
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:21:00 -
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1/10
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Valei Khurelem
405
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:24:00 -
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That's exactly what I'm talking about, **** you.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3390
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:28:00 -
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not empty quoting.
Allainces have to work like a well oiled machine they don't have room for derpy.
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Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
176
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:29:00 -
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0.0 alliances are involved with real money in this game. It's called RMT, and every null alliance does it... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |

Nub Sauce
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:34:00 -
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Going by the info on these forums, quite a few of the 0.0 alliances are involved with real money (RMT). Especially the ones who have large numbers of bots grinding away. Even though I've not personally witnessed it, I really have no reason to doubt it.
Also, the tards who ruin other peoples' play experience just for sh*ts and giggles aren't going to listen to reason, ever. Don't even try. You just have to know how to spot them and avoid them (or kill them). I've never had a problem with it, myself. To me, they are just a slightly more intelligent AI target that is capable of roaming between systems. It's also safe to assume that they are trying to blow up your stuff at all times; well, when they have a massive advantage. |

Loktopre
Avant-Garde Monastery
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:37:00 -
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You have not been on the internet for a long time have you? There are no moral standards on the internet. Humans who think they have anonymity express their true feelings more often. When you spend a lot of time on the internet you will recognize, understand and react to this in the correct way. This also applies to EVE. Also, please do not take this as a hostile post.
TL;DR h t f u |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
420
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:37:00 -
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Too generous. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
397
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:39:00 -
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also notemptyquoting.
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Valei Khurelem
406
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:40:00 -
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Quote:There are no moral standards on the internet.
Then explain to me why Anonymous exists, why the internet is fighting against ACTA and SOPA? Or why you get organisation on a massive scale when some sicko posts videos of themselves committing crimes onto youtube and laughing about it?
Oh and please, I've been around the internet a damn long while, I've seen people fight corruption using the internet you're just talking a pile of ****.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
503
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:40:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:That's exactly what I'm talking about, **** you.
/trollon
I would kindly advise that you sodomize yourself with a retractable baton if you actually believe seeking consolation in an internet forum of a game company is going to be comforting somehow.
/trolloff
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
176
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:44:00 -
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Nub Sauce wrote:Going by the info on these forums, quite a few of the 0.0 alliances are involved with real money (RMT). Especially the ones who have large numbers of bots grinding away. Even though I've not personally witnessed it, I really have no reason to doubt it.
I've seen it before, the sad thing is that some of the big null alliances who are involved in RMT blackmail their members. Hence why they have a "don't report our bots policy" and "give us your personal info before we let you in policy." Along with the CCP is involved in RMT. But, I haven't seen one of those threads in a while... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1408
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:50:00 -
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Hilarious. It's always the others.
And you can't stop ranting about them, as if that changed anything.
You just rant and rant and rant ... as if that helped. As if that changed anything.
The issue is with you ... not them.
Accept reality as it is. You don't do anything to make it better anyway. Crying doesn't change anything, it makes you just look embarrassing.
Every post i come across, it's always the same. You whine about people.
Like ... this guy. It could actually be YOUR fault that he left, because you didn't trust him. But instead, you whine about him not doing as you want him to.
How about you start whining about yourself, for a change ? How about you start blaming yourself, for a change ?
But no ... It's always the others .... :) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Valei Khurelem
406
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:52:00 -
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So it's my fault that other people are acting like cunts in this game?
No seriously, I really want you to try and spin the logic on that one, it'll be funny to watch.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:02:00 -
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You care too much. This is just a game without true consequences for acting like a prick. Rob, steal, cheat and scam use every mechanic and loophole to gain the upper hand. Never make a friend you wont stab in the back and don't join a corp you won't screw over. If you can't have fun doing that, play something else, just don't be fooled by the fine veneer of civility, this is a sharks game and is ultimately meaningless to your life. I'm off to gank some high sec miners that somehow fooled themselves that this is a game that can be "won". trololollololololollol |

Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
54
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:03:00 -
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If the potential recruit didn't stick around because of your simple request, is he someone you really wanted? On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries
34
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:05:00 -
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HTFU or GB2 WOW. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1302
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:07:00 -
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I remember what it was like before MMOs. You see, without people have some place to prik around, they will mess things up in the real world.
If they can't steal, wreck, and grief in an MMO, they will do it in RL. Sure the real world has more consequences, but the need for grief is meta to the game, and so the game offers it more easily, hence they would sooner log into this game than, say, key your new car or poison your dog "for the lulz".
And because of MMOs, I have saved a lot of money on ammo. |

Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
397
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:11:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote: if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy
Confirming that no one will ever find your wormhole unless you give them the system it's currently connected to.
He probably realized that you're a paranoid er, "special person", and decided to stop wasting time with you. If you want security make sure you and your gang are set up to defend yourselves. The "shh don't tell aaaaanyone where we are" approach is ridiculous. While you may think it's keeping you safe, what is actually keeping you safe is the fact that no one cares enough to evict you. Yet. |

THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:11:00 -
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Is this guy having yet ANOTHER crying session? Good lord, you'd think we were on Dr. Phil or something. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
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Cipher Jones
343
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:13:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.
Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.
The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.
Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it!
Or you could have just checked his api.
But that would be way to fuckin hard.
I hate how lazy C.E.O's ruin eve for nullbears.
04:25:37 Notify Cipher Jones, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1409
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:13:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:So it's my fault that other people are acting like cunts in this game?
No seriously, I really want you to try and spin the logic on that one, it'll be funny to watch, by the way CCP, fix your swear filter.
It's your fault for not realizing that you take this game too seriously, but actually blame others of taking it too seriously.
Instead of accepting reality how it is, you keep ranting as if that changed anything.
For example: In one of your threads you ranted about griefers that wardec corps with noobs ... ... instead of wardeccing the griefers, which is easily doable because most are pussies anyway.
There's no point in ranting if it doesn't change anything. You just rant for the sake of it, hence the issue lies within your character.
If you REALLY had a problem with what's happening, you'd actually try to take ACTIONS to change something.
But you don't. You just rant ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
407
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:27:00 -
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What the hell do you expect. This game should really be called "Aspie Online"
if you want to meet the real people with jobs and families they are normally in highsec during the week and in lowsec at the weekends
Non Aspie Wormholes only work when you have a lot of friends or people with a lot of spare time on there hands. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
172
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:39:00 -
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While I agree with you Valei, if someone is taking a dump on my lawn day in and day out and I don't have sense enough to put the run to them, that makes me a bit of a tool. Griefers do alot of damage to this game and CCP look the other way all in the name of 'Sandbox'. This is thier game, not mine and if they want to let griefers wreck it, why the hell should I try and stop them using broken and inadequate mechanics? |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1412
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:23:00 -
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Skydell wrote:While I agree with you Valei, if someone is taking a dump on my lawn day in and day out and I don't have sense enough to put the run to them, that makes me a bit of a tool. Griefers do alot of damage to this game and CCP look the other way all in the name of 'Sandbox'. This is thier game, not mine and if they want to let griefers wreck it, why the hell should I try and stop them using broken and inadequate mechanics?
That's actually beyond the point, but whatever:
Because it's a sandbox. Because it's EvE. Because you care, else you wouldn't complain.
You have a problem with something ? Then deal with it. You're asking for out-of-game-measures against something that can be dealt with ingame easily, but because of that ****** up attitude "griefers" can continue "griefing".
Instead of people helping noobs, people rant about "griefers" who kill noobs. That's a stupid attitude. It doesn't help anybody and doesn't change anything. "Griefers" can and probably do laugh their asses off because of people with that attitude.
There wouldn't even be a problem if people would actually take actions instead of being idiots. Like ... helping noobs who get "griefed". There are people out there that do it, i'm actually one of them, but the mass of people are just whiny princesses.
TL;DR:
Smart people deal with their problems, which helps them deal with their future problems. Not-so-smart people rely on others to deal with their problems, which makes them dependent on what others do. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Ai Shun
338
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:32:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.
Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.
The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.
Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it!
So let me condense this. Somebody did not want to jump through the hoops you requested, and this means that
(a) some things are taken too seriously in-game (b) EVE players are acting like pricks (c) The 0.0 alliances are involved in RMT because of this (d) We all have to be ashamed of themselves
I think you need a big dose of HTFU and perhaps medication to help you calm down. |

Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
100
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:38:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Okay, so we get this pathetic excuse so many times now "EVE is a cold harsh universe" to cover for how pointlessly unfair and mean some people are in this game but this kind of hit me recently, I was doing recruitment and this guy came saying he was from a 0.0 alliance and wanted to hook up with me. Everything was going find and then I said just to be safe I wanted him to move his stuff to a high sec station first before i give him the location of my corps wormhole entrance.
Now I didn't think this was too bad considering the amount of crap other corporations put people through before they'll even let them join nevermind get near their base, I just wanted to be on the safe side since EVE is a 'cold harsh universe' but really? He ended up not staying because he couldn't understand that if I just gave him the entrance to the wormhole we've got set up in for all I know he's a spy ready to spam it around to anyone that wants to come and gank the small defenseless corp looking to get themselves set up.
The EVE Playerbase should really be ******* ashamed of themselves, I know perfectly nice people in game but the facts are a lot of you act like a bunch of pricks, there's being a pirate, there's ganking people and then there's turning it personal by giving them **** just for joining your corporation. This is about as casual as I think I can make it for players without putting the corporation at risk and I'M getting **** for trying to keep people safe because you assholes take things too far by running around demanding peoples real life information and screenshots of their accounts and people are just losing patience.
Honestly, can we just have on thread where we agree that some things are taken too ******* far and it's just a game? Stop acting like pricks! You'd almost think that the 0.0 alliances were involved with real money in this game with how seriously they take it! So let me condense this. Somebody did not want to jump through the hoops you requested, and this means that (a) some things are taken too seriously in-game (b) EVE players are acting like pricks (c) The 0.0 alliances are involved in RMT because of this (d) We all have to be ashamed of themselves I think you need a big dose of HTFU and perhaps medication to help you calm down.
Don't forget that it's all of our faults that other people are db's in Eve, but this guy is guilt-free, apparently because he lives in a secret wormhole and is morally irreprehensible (within the context of a game).
I think this about covers it: This is the same guy who cries when he brings a friend to your house for a game of Monopoly and you put his friend out of the game with your developments on Boardwalk.
What, is he six? This game may not be age-appropriate for him then; it's rated "T" for "Teen" but they cannot monitor the user-content of an online game, so certain content may be age-inappropriate, such as this case and the OP.
I suggest Candyland or Sorry! Nah wat, in sorry you have to act like a DB sometimes, when you play these games. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2012.03.08 05:41:00 -
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Two things I've learned in life. 1.) Don't expect a crazy person to make sense. 2.) Don't argue with a fool. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
There's no way the player population of this game, the real world army of your choice, a governmental body (pick a country), or any gathering of the present occupants of earth can be above their established mental state...or balance...imbalance? The truth is, the frontal lobe activity of the present day earthling is negligible. That's where the consequence of action, or moral consequence of action is mediated. There's a new term for it now...since sociopathic psychiatrists are counted in this mix...but the old term is "sociopath."
We often mistake sociopathy as isolated to serial killers (an estimated 65 of these running around the U.S. at any given moment.) But, the truth is, there's two kinds of sociopaths. The bold ones are the serial killers. The chicken ones are too afraid of real world consequences (read: electric chair, hanging, lethal injection) to actually act out their disorder. So, you will find, in the safety of an environment like this, they feel free to express what they are naturally.
A feature of sociopaths is claiming "everybody else does it, so why not me?" You've seen that in one form or another in the responses to your post. What's unique about EVE interactively speaking is, the management actually approves of, supports and themselves participate in this behavior, naturally seeing nothing in the world wrong with it. In fact, the vast majority of EVE players use it as a means to release their sociopathy, and so will tell you it's "what the sandbox is all about," and "you have a problem if you can't deal with that, boo hoo you."
Naturally, it's lost on them the other potentials and options that unafflicted people would see as a matter of course, and would also attempt keeping in line with the nature of unsullied human intelligence. They see this sort of enterprise and activity as merely a victim setting him or herself up to be -ized by them, gleefullly.
In a very real sense, therefore, in EVE you are actually in a culture of sociopaths. In a very real sense in the real world you are also in a culture of sociopaths. So, if you see sociopathic behavior and don't recognize it as such, that's very likely a sign you are so afflicted, too. If you DO see such behavior and react as though this person should change for the sake of common sense, I refer you to "what I learned in life 1."
Have a nice day. 
Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1360
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Posted - 2012.03.08 07:10:00 -
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Mai Khumm wrote:0.0 alliances are involved with real money in this game. It's called RMT, and every null alliance does it...
or NONE, take your pick..
Anyway if your expectation of what you can do in EVE is "real" enough you can easily do whatever you chose. If it is too small you end up in high sec farming lvl IV missions without any purpose...
If it is high enough you end up in null sec crying that you cant compete with power-blocks. |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
417
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Posted - 2012.03.08 07:16:00 -
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My god dude. Why are you still here if it's so bad?
EVE clearly isn't for you. Go have fun in another game. And please stop crying!  You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here.-á(CCP Nullarbor) |
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