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Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.27 15:23:00 - [1] Originally by: Fink Angel Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny A personal .50? Hope it has a 3 round burst mode Isn't a Desert Eagle handgun a .50 calibre? So it is possible to shoe horn that bullet into a personal weapon. How many rounds does a Desert Eagle hold? Where does a .45 fit into the mix? What does the term "parabellum" mean, as I hear that applied to 9mm rounds? Yes, the Desert Eagle does have a .50 caliber version (and a .45). However, .50 caliber is massive overkill for a pistol. The Eagle is expensive, not particularly accurate, has a relatively low rate of fire, and tends to overpenetrate (hitting what you're aiming at plus whatever is behind it), making it too powerful for police or military use. Its primary audience is movie productions and CS players who don't know any better.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.27 18:06:00 - [2] Edited by: Frezik on 27/05/2008 18:08:30 Originally by: Fink Angel Edited by: Fink Angel on 27/05/2008 17:49:42 OK, how about this for a personal weapon to kill someone not wearing any form of body armour: Flechette round, with Tungsten main body ("Of all metals this element has the highest melting point , lowest vapor pressure and the highest tensile strength.Tungsten has the lowest coefficient of thermal expansion of any pure metal"), Lead tipped hollow point to mushroom on impact, White Phosporous inside the hollow point to cause burning and poisoning if the mushrooming lead head doesn't kill you right off. (Plus the fear factor or WP) Hollow points (specifically, bullets intended to expand in when they hit the target) are banned for military use by the Hauge Convention, though they're ubiquitous for police use (because they reduce the chances of overpenetration and ricochet). I believe any sort of burning or explosive bullet would also be banned. Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: article Rules of war limit the type of ammunition conventional military units can shoot. The Hague Convention of 1899 bars hollow point bullets that expand in the body and cause injuries that someone is less likely to survive. The United States was not a party to that agreement. Yet, as most countries do, it adheres to the treaty, according to the International Committee of the Red Cross. That's just stupid. We can drop a cluster bomb on ya but we can't shoot you with a hollow point. I use those all the time varmit hunting with my little marlin .22 longrifle. I could definitely see the argument that the Hague Convention is outdated on this point.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:13:00 - [3] Edited by: Frezik on 27/05/2008 20:13:44 Edited by: Frezik on 27/05/2008 20:13:33 Edited by: Frezik on 27/05/2008 20:13:17 Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel I don't know what kind of walls you guys have, but the .50 AE has less kinetic energy than the 5.56 NATO and less than half the kinetic energy of the 7.62. It's a fairly powerful round for a handgun, but it's still pretty pathetic compared to a carbine or rifle so it's not going to do any penetration of any walls unless they're made from plaster. On the contrary, let me present The Box 'O Truth. It's surprising how far even 9mm ammo will go through drywall and pine boards. Not as much as rifles, of course, but surprisingly far.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.28 16:13:00 - [4] Originally by: Haraldhardrade I havent read if anyone replied to ypour post, but you are a complete and utter n00b. Wounding a man will cause the enemy more harm as it will cost time and most, logistics, to get him out of the battlefield and later on treat him. You fail at war. IIRC, using weapons that are designed to severely wound instead of kill is considered a war crime. Which was the original reasoning behind disallowing expanding bullets like hollow points.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.29 03:03:00 - [5] Originally by: goodby4u 2)Well then I guess you know more then the history channel eh? Believe what you want to believe but I believe they are fully capable of using this drug. Please, don't quote the History Channel on anything. They reference quacks and unsubstantiated rumor all the time.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.05.29 03:57:00 - [6] Originally by: goodby4u Well I dont get any other kind of history reference on tv nor can I trust stuff such as wiki. Then I suggest getting a library card, or reading the sources that wikipedia cites. The History Channel, like almost everything on TV, is fluff.

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