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LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:08:00 - [1] Edited by: LongHong Dong on 28/05/2008 01:08:37 Is there not anything else? Why so popular? It is easymode, I believe I have figured it out.
Ecky X Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:09:00 - [2] Nano is current the best tank. Why not talk about it?
Nikita Alterana	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:11:00 - [3] nano is not the best tank. Its a decent tank, but you can't nano everything and expect to win, just like you can't armor tank a raven. The only problem with Nano's are that people are too lazy to use the counters CCP has put in. They refuse to adapt so they die. __________________________________________________
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Nikita Alterana nano is not the best tank. Its a decent tank, but you can't nano everything and expect to win, just like you can't armor tank a raven. The only problem with Nano's are that people are too lazy to use the counters CCP has put in. They refuse to adapt so they die. What counters?
Christari Zuborov Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:13:00 - [5] Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 28/05/2008 01:14:46 Everyone repeat after me: Nano ships are for skirmishing warfare, tanked ships are for fleets. A mixed fleet armed with both + ewar equals pwn. Originally by: LongHong Dong What counters? Oh Christ, now you've done it, NOW YOU'VE DONE IT!
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Christari Zuborov Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 28/05/2008 01:14:46 Everyone repeat after me: Nano ships are for skirmishing warfare, tanked ships are for fleets. A mixed fleet armed with both + ewar equals pwn. Originally by: LongHong Dong What counters? Oh Christ, now you've done it, NOW YOU'VE DONE IT! wait for their transversal to reach 400?
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:18:00 - [7] Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: Christari Zuborov Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 28/05/2008 01:14:46 Everyone repeat after me: Nano ships are for skirmishing warfare, tanked ships are for fleets. A mixed fleet armed with both + ewar equals pwn. Originally by: LongHong Dong What counters? Oh Christ, now you've done it, NOW YOU'VE DONE IT! wait for their transversal to reach 400? I think webs need to be looked at and taking into effect that most Nano fitted ships go above 11k.. So what is 8% of 11k? 900ish ms? Please fix this CCP ,if a nano fitted ships gets webbed they need to slow to a 200ms crawl.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:20:00 - [8] Edited by: Spaztick on 28/05/2008 01:20:32 This or this or did you mean this? Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: Christari Zuborov Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 28/05/2008 01:14:46 Everyone repeat after me: Nano ships are for skirmishing warfare, tanked ships are for fleets. A mixed fleet armed with both + ewar equals pwn. Originally by: LongHong Dong What counters? Oh Christ, now you've done it, NOW YOU'VE DONE IT! wait for their transversal to reach 400? I think webs need to be looked at and taking into effect that most Nano fitted ships go above 11k.. So what is 8% of 11k? 900ish ms? Please fix this CCP ,if a nano fitted ships gets webbed they need to slow to a 200ms crawl. Who doesn't double web in anything that isn't nanoed? But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:23:00 - [9] Originally by: LongHong Dong I think webs need to be looked at and taking into effect that most Nano fitted ships go above 11k. Not even most interceptors go above that speed, let alone most speed fitted tech 2 cruisers.
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:23:00 - [10] Edited by: LongHong Dong on 28/05/2008 01:23:38 Originally by: Spaztick Edited by: Spaztick on 28/05/2008 01:20:32 This or this or did you mean this? Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: Christari Zuborov Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 28/05/2008 01:14:46 Everyone repeat after me: Nano ships are for skirmishing warfare, tanked ships are for fleets. A mixed fleet armed with both + ewar equals pwn. Originally by: LongHong Dong What counters? Oh Christ, now you've done it, NOW YOU'VE DONE IT! wait for their transversal to reach 400? I think webs need to be looked at and taking into effect that most Nano fitted ships go above 11k.. So what is 8% of 11k? 900ish ms? Please fix this CCP ,if a nano fitted ships gets webbed they need to slow to a 200ms crawl. Who doesn't double web in anything that isn't nanoed? So people have to waste an extra mid slot just to even combat nanoships? Sounds to me as if nanos need to be toned down. Make webbifiers a high slot module and I will shut up.
DubanFP Four Rings Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:24:00 - [11] Originally by: LongHong Dong Sounds to me as if nanos need to be toned down. Make webbifiers a high slot module and I will shut up. Yeah it's totally unfair that someone should have to waste an extra midslot to render a ship totally useless. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
Efdi Tritanium Workers Union	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:24:00 - [12] Originally by: LongHong Dong most Nano fitted ships go above 11k.. No. They don't. _______________________________ Yes, I am an alt. No, I can't post with my main; he's forum banned. Yes, I will be happy to smack you with my main when I'm unbanned.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:25:00 - [13] I hate nano figs too. I have thusly chopped down my nano fig tree. It was hard but I used a nano-axe to do it. Lol at anyone above who is not a troll, this thread is terrible. Originally by: CCP Casqade Please refrain from making assumptions on game mechanics and then presenting them as facts before testing them yourself.
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:25:00 - [14] Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: LongHong Dong Sounds to me as if nanos need to be toned down. Make webbifiers a high slot module and I will shut up. Yeah it's totally unfair that someone should have to waste an extra midslot to render a ship totally useless. They are never alone .... So thats alot ships that need to waste alot extra mid slots.
DubanFP Four Rings Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:26:00 - [15] Edited by: DubanFP on 28/05/2008 01:26:51 Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: LongHong Dong Sounds to me as if nanos need to be toned down. Make webbifiers a high slot module and I will shut up. Yeah it's totally unfair that someone should have to waste an extra midslot to render a ship totally useless. They are never alone .... So thats alot ships that need to waste alot extra mid slots. So now you should be able to beat them 3 v 1 or more? Sorry, but this sounds like a "nerf them, buff me" post. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
LongHong Dong	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:29:00 - [16] Edited by: LongHong Dong on 28/05/2008 01:30:22 Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 28/05/2008 01:26:51 Originally by: LongHong Dong Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: LongHong Dong Sounds to me as if nanos need to be toned down. Make webbifiers a high slot module and I will shut up. Yeah it's totally unfair that someone should have to waste an extra midslot to render a ship totally useless. They are never alone .... So thats alot ships that need to waste alot extra mid slots. So now you should be able to beat them 3 v 1 or more? Sorry, but this sounds like a "nerf them, buff me" post. Nanos do not need to be nerfed? LOL I will lose that question because they are so FOTM and overpowered everyone flys one :D Actualy FOTM (Flavor of the month) was a bad choice , I meant FOTY(flavor of the year) because that is how long it takes or more for CCP to even notice an issue.
DubanFP Four Rings Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:33:00 - [17] Edited by: DubanFP on 28/05/2008 01:35:59 Originally by: LongHong Dong Nanos do not need to be nerfed? LOL I will lose that question because they are so FOTM and overpowered everyone flys one :D Nanos are not super-powerful. Basically they're the best way for someone who's going to throw a few hundred million isk into a ship to protect the investment. Nanoships are actually surprizingly weak in straitfoward power. The main strength of them is the abillity to run when they're outnumbered or overpowered which will happen. The equivilent cost on a normal ship would just be killed by superior numbers. Anyways I fly a huginn and let me tell you. Fly/fit the right thing and spend an equivilent amount and nanoships drop like flies. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
Lady Karma	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:33:00 - [18] If it was easy mode then you could fly them after 1 month and make 20mil an hour. Oh sorry, that's cloaking macro ravens
Sloppy Podfarts	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:41:00 - [19] omg my nano-hoarder pwns
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.05.28 02:23:00 - [20] i nanoed my vaga but now i can't find it :(
Kinkie Yuuki	Posted - 2008.05.28 03:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Faife Edited by: Faife on 28/05/2008 02:29:53 i nanoed my vaga but now i can't find it :( cause it's really small... it's a nanovaga... um... small. very small. OMFGWTFROTFLLOLWTF BABAHHAHAHHAHAHHHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHA I GET IT!!
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.28 03:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Spaztick Who doesn't double web in anything that isn't nanoed? Most any Amarr ship (which are frankly lucky to fit the Holy Trinity most times anyway) -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
TempSniper UnderDog Industries Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.05.28 03:56:00 - [23] Originally by: Nikita Alterana nano is not the best tank. Its a decent tank, but you can't nano everything and expect to win, just like you can't armor tank a raven. The only problem with Nano's are that people are too lazy to use the counters CCP has put in. They refuse to adapt so they die. I've used my rapier to counter nannofaaag gangs and I am usually met with two things, 1)They run, 2) they log off.... kinda funny being a industrist's to watch the likes of failstain to do that for a rapier.
Tob Seayours Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.05.28 03:57:00 - [24] If you can't counter nano, it's you that's broken. Not the game.
Pithecanthropus	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Tob Seayours If you can't counter nano, it's you that's broken. Not the game. nano = muppet = lame --------------------------------- Pithecanthropus erectus, a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Tob Seayours If you can't counter nano, it's you that's broken. Not the game. I think the issue is that for small gang warfare nano seems the only way to go. Don't bother showing up in anything else. Generally in EVE it is nice to think any ship can be useful. Yes, setups vary and sometimes you have the wrong setup vs. the other guy and get owned but it should not be a matter of just forget the ship entirely if it cannot nano well. What's more, in EVE, the notion of committing to a fight is well established. Nano ships are almost pure get of of jail free cards. Yes, some ships can ruin them but unless the nano pilot is brain dead he'll almost certainly get away if he sees one of the handful of ships that can hurt him on the field. Just wait till FW comes and it all becomes nano for the whines to really hit. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Beaverid Machinist	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:20:00 - [27] Nano goes after target. Targets buddy realises that he doesnt need to hump targets tail pipes. Buddy warps in at 100km and has less turret traversing to do. Buddy pops the undertanked speed freak. Isn't that simple?
Mahn AlNouhm The Bastards	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:24:00 - [28] Originally by: Pithecanthropus Originally by: Tob Seayours If you can't counter nano, it's you that's broken. Not the game. nano = muppet = lame QFT. And you thought muppets in space was just a kids movie. . . .
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:24:00 - [29] Originally by: Beaverid Machinist Nano goes after target. Targets buddy realises that he doesnt need to hump targets tail pipes. Buddy warps in at 100km and has less turret traversing to do. Buddy pops the undertanked speed freak. Isn't that simple? Buddy warps in at 100km. Nano zooms towards Buddy. Buddy takes 12 seconds to lock target. Nano now 8 seconds and 40km out. Buddy gets one shot off. Nano now circling Buddy ruing his traversal. Buddy gets owned. Simple. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.05.28 04:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Beaverid Machinist Then wouldnt it be the original targets chance to fire? lol Original target also has 100km range on his guns? -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"

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