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ForumBiatch
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Posted - 2008.05.29 04:41:00 -
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Seems as the rats are leavin the sinkin ship.
Quote from insrg internal comm:
[22:28] person 1: get ready for this [22:28] person 2: huh [22:28] person 1: [CORP1] RagnarH Post subject: Jotram is a thief ? Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:43 pm [22:28] person 1: This is the only way I can get his attention.
I traded him about 50 Giant Secure containers that he said he could carry.
Now he blocks me and yesterday he said that 9 carriers were going to take all the stuff out. (how are 9 carriers going to take out 900k of stuff ?)
I WANT ANSWEARS NOW !!!
oh yea, did I mention he blocked me when I tried to ask him for the stuff ? [22:28] person 1: [CELES] Melladryn Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ? Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:45 pm [22:28] person 1: best way is to ask leadership. I did see that he's no longer in INSRG. [22:29] person 1: [Helios] Fudgefairy Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ? Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:48 pm [22:29] person 1: o7
+ 90bill isk
ty insrg
you can remove me from this forum now
good luck
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [22:29] person 1: Oh Jotram.
I wouldn't have had you pegged for this.
I'm so very disappointed. What a ****ty way to go out. It's virtual ISK mate - you can't take it with you. To *rein-raus-rein-raus* people over who trusted you for virtual iskies is pretty tragic imo.
Daco [22:31] person 3: epic tbh [22:31] person 1: it is up too 3 pages [22:33] person 4: some1 stole 90 bil from insurg? [22:34] person 1: yup [22:35] person 1: darth solo told them to contract it to this toon called jotram [22:36] person 1: they all did [22:36] person 2: rofl [22:36] person 1: he accepted the contracts and stole it all [22:36] person 1: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ? Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:33 pm [22:36] person 1: he was a in the leadership and in INSRG for a long time, he said he could get the stuff out by using an alt which he would get into pure, i bought him a carrier so he could jump out all your stuff... i was only thinking of helping u guys its pretty sad that sum think im to blame. [22:44] person 2: lol [22:44] person 2: is it on coad yet? [22:45] person 4: cant see it [23:28] person 1: [Helios] Alex Logan Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ? Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:57 pm [23:28] person 1: This news saddens me not only for my corp but for all you guys that have lost assets / isk from this . I know my ceo sky will be devastated, Jotram was high up in comand and was trusted by many people myself included. He cleaned out our corp wallet also before he left. So it seems the temptation was far to great for him , These are actions of a weak man who has no bones about taking what he hasnt worked so hard for, I for one would donate / help out any person / corp who have lost out . I would like to ask that you dont tarr Helios/insrg with the same brush... [23:28] person 1: up to 4 pages on there forums ....
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Talerco
RennTech SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 04:42:00 -
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1st
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 04:44:00 -
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Edited by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on 29/05/2008 04:44:29 god damn you to hell Talerco!
first???? another great achievement before I go, first in a crap thread.
did you create an alt just for this post? Seriously what are you people frightened for its the ******* internet...
POST WITH YOUR MAIN
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Gungankllr
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 05:05:00 -
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Yeah, somebody stole some stuff they were entrusted.
Definitely means "All aboard the failboat" for insurgency.
Feel free to keep reaching and stuff.

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Aaron Mirrorsaver
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 05:09:00 -
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hey gungan! i quit eve :)
C.E.O.
Go Hard, or go Home.
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Shinigami
Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 05:10:00 -
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paper kitten
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CaldeteisX
Helios Incorporated Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 05:16:00 -
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this took longer then i expected to get to here, yes someone stole from the alliance their corp and alliance members, not the first time an alliance/corp/members has had things stolen and certainly won't be the last, I Hope pure will enjoy having a scammer in their midst.
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RL Burnside
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.29 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: RL Burnside on 29/05/2008 05:34:27 I didn't even bother to read any of the OP, but I thought this whole juvenile "OMG Insurg sucks" crap is getting really annoying.
The fact that they held out as long as they did against the whole northern NAP gang speaks volumes about them as an alliance. Insurgency and FAIL do not belong anywhere in the same sentence much less the same thread.
Please quit wasting our time...
oh wait this is COAD the cesspool of the internet
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Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: RL Burnside Edited by: RL Burnside on 29/05/2008 05:34:27 I didn't even bother to read any of the OP, but I thought this whole juvenile "OMG Insurg sucks" crap is getting really annoying.
The fact that they held out as long as they did against the whole northern NAP gang speaks volumes about them as an alliance. Insurgency and FAIL do not belong anywhere in the same sentence much less the same thread.
Please quit wasting our time...
oh wait this is COAD the cesspool of the internet
Insurgency and FAIL belong together since they began their chestbeating. Telling everyone how awesome they are against the NAPsquad with a legion of asskissing alts as a background chorus. What they did not tell anyone was that they already outnumbered the small northern alliances.
Then they started their own naptrain with Tri, PA, Destiny and ATF. Hypocricy 4tw was the motto for smackancy.
Regardless of this, I still think that stealing from your own corp and alliance is lame, but what do I know. Since I am told there is no internet spaceship game honor by the forum warriors, it is not surprising that some people act like this, when they think they can get away.
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The Cursed
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:28:00 -
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Bla bla everyone knows the fail corp CORP ONE and its uber corp mate JOTRAM stole everything from your allaince member (INSURGE)and you know that corp one is gettign a kickback from this 90BILLION isk worth of stuff stolen. Beer em Good!!!!!!
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mama guru
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:28:00 -
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In Before Mineral.
Secondly: So what makes the op think this is the end of the world?
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |

CaldeteisX
Helios Incorporated Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Originally by: RL Burnside Edited by: RL Burnside on 29/05/2008 05:34:27 I didn't even bother to read any of the OP, but I thought this whole juvenile "OMG Insurg sucks" crap is getting really annoying.
The fact that they held out as long as they did against the whole northern NAP gang speaks volumes about them as an alliance. Insurgency and FAIL do not belong anywhere in the same sentence much less the same thread.
Please quit wasting our time...
oh wait this is COAD the cesspool of the internet
Insurgency and FAIL belong together since they began their chestbeating. Telling everyone how awesome they are against the NAPsquad with a legion of asskissing alts as a background chorus. What they did not tell anyone was that they already outnumbered the small northern alliances.
We only outnumbered them for the last month of the 6 months of conflict, at the time insrg was only 1200 members, it was when rare and stella got taken out that we had more numbers, never during that conflict before that time did we have more numbers then they did, but this is all beside the way now anyway, we lost what we fought for, time to move on and kill stuffs.
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MineralOel Steuer
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: mama guru In Before Mineral.
Secondly: So what makes the op think this is the end of the world?
Why should I beat a dead Horse?
no corp ticker from the op, so this will soon be closed.
but ok to be a little bit ot:
I think Agamar and/or darth solo, ragnarH will rob Insurgeny so bad that even Krall Amarr would blush.
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |

PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: ForumBiatch
[22:28] person 1: [CORP1] RagnarH Post subject: Jotram is a thief ? Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:43 pm
I blame Rags
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Cautet
Precision Engineering Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Cautet on 29/05/2008 07:05:56 Jotram was not in Corp1.
This took a lot longer than expected to get on to Coad. I think that alone is a good thing.
Could and has happened to most Alliances from time to time. As indeed happened to Pure/Razor recently with that Pure pilot dooming the Razor Titan for a grudge. A small minority of players have to cheat to play with internet spaceships, which is rather sad, but it is after all a game.
Seems Jotram has now joined Pure. I am sure he will be in good company.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:10:00 -
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Ragnarh, looks like your plan failed. Ha.
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:40:00 -
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i find it very lame to gloat over such robbery where people lose their assets to trusted people and members who are in their corps for long time. and always think before gloating it could happen to you tomorrow.
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:48:00 -
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the thief in question was the ceo of a corp that merged into helios.
he was contracted items to jump out of stations that we had lost, he stole it all. not rly insrg's fault now is it?
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DZA Preacher
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:55:00 -
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So in summary PURE are a bunch of two bit thieves then?
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Bumkin
Game-Over Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
but ok to be a little bit ot:
I think Agamar will rob Insurgeny so bad that even Krall Amarr would blush.
you cleary dont know agmar very well.
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Spyzor4tloszor
Spyzor4twinzor Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 the thief in question was the ceo of a corp that merged into helios.
he was contracted items to jump out of stations that we had lost, he stole it all. not rly insrg's fault now is it?
Well since I havent posted in a while, I will give th real scoop. The theft was orchestrated by no other that Darth Solo and Butter Dog. Here is how it went down.
1. Darth SOlo tell the alliance to give everything to Jotram. He is going to get an alt into pure and jump everything out with 2 freighters he bought. But the story changes half way thru and it ended up being 1 carrier was going to move over 2 bill M3 in assets out of the station in QCWA.
This was on the 22nd of May
Quote: make contracts to jotram... he will organise it. we have bought 2 freighters in qcwa and will move stuff this way when its quiet.
only 1 bs per member, ideally, no bs.. just important gear, no crap. basically stuff u will need. we also have quite a few carriers in the station which will move cruisers sized important expensive ships also. its been planned for a while and we are now good to go. no rush though, like i say we will pick our time, could take a a day, could be a month. as we cant redock we cant take chances.
do this before weekend.
The next day darth solo steps down as head of the allaince and the plan is set into action, with none other than Butter Dog, the biggest theif in Eve Hisotry with ISS and the billions and nillions of isk ISS stole from the ******s that bought into the station gold mine.
4 Days later Butter Dog conveinces his corp to leave with the said token booty. His corp is none the wiser casue it hasnt really broke out ont he forums yet. There were a few question of where is jotram but all were crushed by co-ceos and other HC leaders.
So under the vale of a smoke screen Butter Dog gets all the gear out and into safe space, while people are starting to get pitch forks and torches out ready a linching.
2. This is where I feel sorry for the lonely grunt, who is the pvper and is the one getting it in the butzor. The contract and contract and contract till the cows come home, jotram is even convoing and eve mailing every person in alliance to make them contract all there gear to him. Hell Jotram hasnt even been on vent for over a month since the z-k fight. The masses are getting ****ed and darth is secretly moving there gear out via Butter Dog.
There is this post and all hell breaks lose in the forums Quote: Jotram is a thief ?
This is the only way I can get his attention.
I traded him about 50 Giant Secure containers that he said he could carry.
Now he blocks me and yesterday he said that 9 carriers were going to take all the stuff out. (how are 9 carriers going to take out 900k of stuff ?)
I WANT ANSWEARS NOW !!!
oh yea, did I mention he blocked me when I tried to ask him for the stuff ?
and Jotrams alt in the forums [Helios] Fudgefairy replies with 2 post Quote: o7 + 90bill isk
ty insrg
you can remove me from this forum now
good luck
and Quote: you can blame him, at that time i was legit, and was ready to ferry your assets out, but every man has a price, and that price was handed to me.
especialy after a certain corp gave me a mothership component set (well its missing a few parts)
Well Darth Solo forgot he said he had 2 frieghters to get the stuff out, but now changed the story in the thread to Quote: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ?Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:33 pm
he was a in the leadership and in INSRG for a long time, he said he could get the stuff out by using an alt which he would get into pure, i bought him a carrier so he could jump out all your stuff... i was only thinking of helping u guys its pretty sad that sum think im to blame.
I think Darth Needs to give us our stuff back now
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Algey
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:26:00 -
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I somehow don't think so. Isn't silly spyalt Hehulks alt, might want to post with your main mate :)
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La Vittoria
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:31:00 -
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Quote: The next day darth solo steps down as head of the allaince and the plan is set into action, with none other than Butter Dog, the biggest theif in Eve Hisotry with ISS and the billions and nillions of isk ISS stole from the ******s that bought into the station gold mine.
4 Days later Butter Dog conveinces his corp to leave with the said token booty. His corp is none the wiser casue it hasnt really broke out ont he forums yet. There were a few question of where is jotram but all were crushed by co-ceos and other HC leaders.
So under the vale of a smoke screen Butter Dog gets all the gear out and into safe space, while people are starting to get pitch forks and torches out ready a linching.
epic 
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Iteken Hotori
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 29/05/2008 08:44:04 Epic logic ! I though that thread a few days ago made by Piper was dreadfull but this is worse, and is only on page1. You l33t spies are gettign slack. 18 hours from internal forum post to CAOD? Please, you are better than this. Hell, we've got inctive members who found out faster than that.
oh, and ibtl, ibtMod, and Hi Mum.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:50:00 -
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WTS: insurgency members stuff
d solo.
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Iteken Hotori
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo WTS: insurgency members stuff
d solo.
wtb mothership components 3 magic beans and a Glass slipper.
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shanda captison
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Spyzor4tloszor Random s***
Lol. No. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

La Vittoria
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo WTS: insurgency members stuff
d solo.
Will convo you later to discuss butters share
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Alais Wiccanfae
Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Spyzor4tloszor
I think Darth Needs to give us our stuff back now
Riiiiiiiight  [/url] |

Orosinii
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:56:00 -
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Yes Jotram and his army of alts has stolen from Insurgency. Yes the pilots of Insurgency are not happy about it, neither are his corp members of whom I personally feel for. The rest of this thread is just a pile of conspiracy theories designed to undermine Insurgency.
The fact is that this 'walking abortion' had a price. For a large amount of isk he betrayed friends.
I formally request that CCP monitor his aqcuired assets and associated isk on all his accounts to ensure that the EULA is not breached and he financially gains nothing from this.
Now lets put this behind us, learn from it and get back in game and play internet spaceships.
Oro
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