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Helplessandlost
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:02:00 -
[181]
It may be just a game, but people that do this type of thing make me ill. In Memory of Deacon Hasp
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KIAEddZ
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:03:00 -
[182]
Scum.
What goes around comes around, have no doubt of that.
KIA EVE Home
KIA in game Public Channel "KIA"
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thearrowofapollo
COBRA INC
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:05:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Johann Jeneau pathetic
so is peoke and smash
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MAXSuicide
The Ludovico Technique
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:15:00 -
[184]
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
at all those "you'r RL scum" posters
wake up boys, it's just a game.
So u dont mind telling us who ur main is then?
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Captain Internet
Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:17:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Captain Internet on 30/05/2008 11:20:54 Hahaha, this is hilarious on a multitude of levels.
To all the people crying "you must be a **** in real life" or something similar, get the hell out. I personally play this game to grief people as it is funny as hell, seeing as apart from seal clubbing there aren't any equally funny professions available in real life. The game has been proven to be a harsh environment just how many times now?.. Moaning about the guy doing this is stupid to say the least.
As for the ton of isk the guy got - well, don't fly what you can't afford to lose and don't contract stuff you can't afford losing. Times like these show the ridiculousness of e-honour well and just how the game _is_ a sandbox. Stop crying and do something more impressive than what the guy just pulled off, maybe?
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Repmaek
Violence Solves Everything
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:28:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Captain Internet Edited by: Captain Internet on 30/05/2008 11:20:54 Hahaha, this is hilarious on a multitude of levels.
To all the people crying "you must be a **** in real life" or something similar, get the hell out. I personally play this game to grief people as it is funny as hell, seeing as apart from seal clubbing there aren't any equally funny professions available in real life. The game has been proven to be a harsh environment just how many times now?.. Moaning about the guy doing this is stupid to say the least.
As for the ton of isk the guy got - well, don't fly what you can't afford to lose and don't contract stuff you can't afford losing. Times like these show the ridiculousness of e-honour well and just how the game _is_ a sandbox. Stop crying and do something more impressive than what the guy just pulled off, maybe?
1/10 'cause you try too hard.
-VSE-
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Cippalippus Primus
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:29:00 -
[187]
no but you see he robbed some internet spaceships and that makes him a rapist and a murderer IRL (in real life) too!!! -clp
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Delekhaji
30 ounces
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:35:00 -
[188]
To the OP: You stole billions of isk worth of corp mates gear and your crying about it? saying sorry through tears??(while not giving it back of course)are you thinking your coming across to the rest of EVE as a man of Honor for admitting it?? are you that silly? You would have definitely received more respect for "LOLPWNEDLSERS!!!", A great thief is worthy of respect - at least for his greatness and audacity but your whiny drivel is sad and pathetic, I think I am going to puke now, excuse me......
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:37:00 -
[189]
its only isk.
id rather have my eve mates who have given me so much fun over the last 5 years, we have all been through alot together and no ammount of virtual isk would make me give that up. personally id struggle to sleep.
my real problem if he will sell on ebay... that would take it to another lvl, out of game. i hope CCP watch out for that.
d solo.
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Solar Typhon
R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:43:00 -
[190]
I wonder just how many of the people shouting here would be tempted to pocket the 90b if handed to them. I would say quite a few including myself. Its ridiculous to hand someone 90billion in assets and not have the foresight to see that maybe it will cross their mind to steal the gear.
How many times have we seen the victims of theft shouting "man we trusted him, we knew him for years". If you had 90million sitting in a bank account, would you give your bestest friend in the whole world your bank card and pin number?? Of course not and if you did you would be an idiot, so why do it in a game where there are no legal repercussions for theft.
Moral of the story, don't put all your of eggs in one fools basket, if you need to contract tens of billions worth of stuff do it in small batches and wait till you get the first load back before you give them the next. Easy to say in hindsight I know, but these lessons should have been learned by now. You can only blame the thief a certain amount.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist Still, darth solo screwed up on an epic level. I don't think he was involved by a far margin, but it would've been a lot less pathetic if he was.
iv been working out plans to get the guys stuff out for a month. this was the best one due to Jotram playing eve more than RL, helping us out each day and being part of leadership. he was the perfect guy to do it as he was trusted, only i knew of the plan to get it all out.
It was always meant to be low lvl stuff, IE, important gear and 1 ship on maybe 20 characters... i wasnt around a for a few days and they were the days he decided to do the scam, but i do have a rl.
he done this by spamming alliance chat and mails to get the max volume of stuff he could.
Iv had 100s of billions pass through my hands in INSRG and its all went back to the members, every single bit of isk..
ppl thinking id ruin darth solos rep by being involved are just dumb, i have no need for ISKs ingame and im not short of money in RL.
Its been done, luckily INSRG was never about the isk.
and u GOON losers so full of hate to me, your the ones that have failed in EVE, not me, INSRG has done EVERYTHING it set out to do against the odds, whereas you have failed.
d solo.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:55:00 -
[192]
I'm sorry to say the Jotram character has been sold and sold again since it was in the posession of a Goon. We had nothing to do with this but I say that sadly :(
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MineralOel Steuer
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:57:00 -
[193]
Originally by: darth solo
and u GOON losers so full of hate to me, your the ones that have failed in EVE, not me, INSRG has done EVERYTHING it set out to do against the odds, whereas you have failed.
d solo.
last time I looked at the EVE map, Goons own some nice Space, hell even Alliances like Mostly Harmless (more like Mostly Useless) or Roadkill/Smash/Atlas own Space, while your Alliance failed at establish themself in 0.0. Just a small correction and keep posting
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |

Ulviirala Vauryndar
Cohortes Stellaris
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:04:00 -
[194]
Can I have their stuff? 
Unfortunately, your signature is not 22239 bytes, it exceeds the 24000 byte limit allowed on the forums. -Darth Patches I fail, regards to Cortes - Ulvi |

Johann Jeneau
Cricas Portuguese Korp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:05:00 -
[195]
Originally by: thearrowofapollo
Originally by: Johann Jeneau pathetic
so is peoke and smash
ok, you can ride a bike with no handlebars, gratz
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:07:00 -
[196]
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
Originally by: darth solo
and u GOON losers so full of hate to me, your the ones that have failed in EVE, not me, INSRG has done EVERYTHING it set out to do against the odds, whereas you have failed.
d solo.
last time I looked at the EVE map, Goons own some nice Space, hell even Alliances like Mostly Harmless (more like Mostly Useless) or Roadkill/Smash/Atlas own Space, while your Alliance failed at establish themself in 0.0. Just a small correction and keep posting
having space is nice, it was a nice feeling but at the end of the day we took it by accident and losing it was never a biggie. of course, some people lost assets and such there (which resulted in this) but the fights the stations brought were more important than holding the stations.
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Cippalippus Primus
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
and u GOON losers so full of hate to me, your the ones that have failed in EVE, not me, INSRG has done EVERYTHING it set out to do against the odds, whereas you have failed.
d solo.
shut the hell up, this has nothing to do with goons. -clp
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
Originally by: darth solo
and u GOON losers so full of hate to me, your the ones that have failed in EVE, not me, INSRG has done EVERYTHING it set out to do against the odds, whereas you have failed.
d solo.
last time I looked at the EVE map, Goons own some nice Space, hell even Alliances like Mostly Harmless (more like Mostly Useless) or Roadkill/Smash/Atlas own Space, while your Alliance failed at establish themself in 0.0. Just a small correction and keep posting
Yes indeed, even Hydra have space.
How do they manage that? It must be through sheer grit, determination, skill, and fearless leadership.
And not just Nap'ing everything in sight and taking part in cowardly blob fests.
You see, owning space is easy. INSRG were offered space several times. They were offered a place on the NAPtrain.
What you see as 'failure' others see as fun and a challenge. Thats why your main is in the NC, and mine never will be. Well done you.
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Cautet
Precision Engineering Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Solar Typhon I wonder just how many of the people shouting here would be tempted to pocket the 90b if handed to them. I would say quite a few including myself.
Not that many. And yes, I would trust a very good irl friend with my bank card. And 90billion isk is abit different to 90 million pounds. 90b in game money without anyone trusting you, and with no alliance wanting to touch you (+1 to Pure btw) is not the way I would want to play the game.
He was someone with a very good reputation that had put alot of time and effort into the alliance. Through his weakness he actualy lost out. To be honest, I feel slightly sorry for Jotram, as well as for those people who lost out because he couldn't hack it. Instead of waiting and reaping the rewards of his hard work he became a blubbering ***** who p1ssed all over his alliance mates.
People blaming Darth is stupid. Have you any idea of the amount of isk an alliance leader is trusted with. Have you any idea of the amount of time and effort that goes into building and maintaining a professional competent well organised alliance? And whatever is said on Coad, Insrg is a well organised competent alliance.
And blaming an alliance leader who has sweated blood for his alliance for delagating some of his huge responsability to a trusted man is short sighted. Even if you don't like Insurgency, people like Darth should be saluted. They add more to the game than most of us, myself included, ever will.
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:16:00 -
[200]
what warms my heart is how HOBOS are supporting us even though they've left. give em hells Butter 
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:18:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Chip2k3 what warms my heart is how HOBOS are supporting us even though they've left. give em hells Butter 
2008.05.29 18:09 The Littlest Hobos has declared war on Majesta Empire. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
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Bakkus
Anonymous Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:23:00 -
[202]
Originally by: mama guru Edited by: mama guru on 30/05/2008 08:11:23
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: MineralOel Steuer
at all those "you'r RL scum" posters
wake up boys, it's just a game.
would sell those money via gtc on ebay and enjoy a nice holiday, sponsord by Insurgency Alliance (EVE Online).
Ya you're right, friends you make over years on TS and in-game aren't real friends, they're just internet friends, and that's like 1/10th of a real friend I guess.
Wake up, he's still a douchebag.
what part of "its just a game" don't you understand?
thief is legitim in EVE Online, so all he was doing is, playing the Game the way he likes.
Dude, there is a huge difference between a guy like Istvaan and Jotram and what they just did. Besides there was alot of time invested, real time in order to produce those assets. So in the end people may have lost money, but at the end of the day the efforts were taken from them. And not because he was hired to sabotage anything, or had worked with that intention all along. He just did it on a whim, and actually apologised for it(doesnt make it any better, but still).
And yeah its just a game, where scamming is legal, so trust involves risk. Thats how it works. I personally wouldnt have trusted him with anything at all had i still been in insurgency, but just because its allowed by the rules doesnt mean its a good thing to abuse friendly relations with other people.
Actually the only real difference between him and istvan/GHSC is a fictional story (which was an awsome read btw) and a some spin Snip, Signatures should be respectful and EVE related.  |

Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 what warms my heart is how HOBOS are supporting us even though they've left. give em hells Butter 
Didnt you get the memo?
hobos are forum warriors and forum bans makes for sad hobos
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |

Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:25:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/05/2008 12:25:48
Originally by: Butter Dog You see, owning space is easy. INSRG were offered space several times. They were offered a place on the NAPtrain.
By who? Is this gonna be another version of Darth's thruth vs. Your thruth or what. There's not been any new members on this naptrain for about 2 years and I doubt there's gonna be any new ones soon.
Oh and is that Orree giving you the lxwn station supposedly or what?  --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |

Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:25:00 -
[205]
istvaans was a crime of genius, involving planning etc etc
jotram screwed over his friends, and was a crime of opportunity. not quite the same (except to the people on the receiving end of it of course)
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:26:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Butter Dog You see, owning space is easy. INSRG were offered space several times. They were offered a place on the NAPtrain.
By who? Is this gonna be another version of Darth's thruth vs. Your thruth or what. There's not been any new members on this naptrain for about 2 years and I doubt there's gonna be any new ones soon.
you mean that convo with mm abut takeing over lxw never happened? 
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |

Dominicus Vitus
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:30:00 -
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I nominate Jotram for 'The Biggest Douche in the Eve Universe Award'
This award should be made official by CCP just for this douche.
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 30/05/2008 12:25:48
Originally by: Butter Dog You see, owning space is easy. INSRG were offered space several times. They were offered a place on the NAPtrain.
By who? Is this gonna be another version of Darth's thruth vs. Your thruth or what. There's not been any new members on this naptrain for about 2 years and I doubt there's gonna be any new ones soon.
Oh and is that Orree giving you the lxwn station supposedly or what? 
you should probably check into facts etc before saying XYZ conversations never took place. you tend to look stupid when you're wrong 
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Bakkus
Anonymous Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 istvaans was a crime of genius, involving planning etc etc
jotram screwed over his friends, and was a crime of opportunity. not quite the same (except to the people on the receiving end of it of course)
Opportunity/planning whatever. it still comes down to ripping off the people who trust you. at the end of the day as in all things Eve related if its not in your hangar/hold restricted area it doesnt belong to you, and if you couldnt do this sort of stuff Eve wouldnt be the game it is. I wonder how many of the people who lost stuff, thought Istvans corp theft was cool at the time and how many still do? Snip, Signatures should be respectful and EVE related.  |

thelung187
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 12:58:00 -
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This reads to me something to the effect of:
"omg sorry your majesty for stealin teh crown jewels, i really didnt want to betray the monarchy because i love you and the house of lords and even you gordon brown, but i just couldnt help it."
If you're going to dedicate nearly 66% of your total day to Eve, at least man up and be proud that you pulled off such a heist, not emo /wrists with a golden knife. At least GHSC is proud of what they do :P That or look into therapy, because the conflict you've shown here in terms of comradery versus profit could be a sign of something deeper.
Like being a complete d-bag.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
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