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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.30 13:49:00 -
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We have daily downime because Chribba like his veldspar fresh. ------------------------------------------
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.05.30 13:50:00 -
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To keep things running at an acceptable speed, nothing is deleted during the day, destroyed items (billions of them) are marked for deletion and actually deleted at downtime.
Just one of the many things. Didn't anybody bookmark the dev response which goes into detail? ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag |
Todd Doughnut
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Posted - 2008.05.30 14:31:00 -
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Read the Langoliers
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CCP Lingorm
C C P
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Posted - 2008.05.30 14:44:00 -
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Everyday Sovereignty Checks and changes Outpost Upgrades and extensions Summary statistics reports Asteroid/Ice Reseeding All proxy and Sol server node processes (not machines) are restarted to clear caches and memory.
These other tasks are run but not everyday (run on different days) Database Index rebuilds Graveyard cleaning (removal of destroyed items) Partial backups of parts of the Database (A full backup takes longer than 1 hour) Sometimes server reboots.
Other SQL task CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader
Originally by: Lord Fitz Eve is to WoW as Wow is to an 8 player game of Unreal Tournament.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
there is no Icelandic law saying servers have to go down /where do people get this stuff from ...
Like I said I didnt know if it was true or not but that I had read it on these forums... damn wheres the shrug emote. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Sinnae Takeda
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Posted - 2008.05.30 18:09:00 -
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many thanks for the informative replies!
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Asestorian
Domination. Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.05.30 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: RaTTuS
there is no Icelandic law saying servers have to go down /where do people get this stuff from ...
Like I said I didnt know if it was true or not but that I had read it on these forums... damn wheres the shrug emote.
The servers are in London anyway
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Quote: EVE is unfair by design.
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MarleWH
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Posted - 2008.05.30 18:35:00 -
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It is at 5am for me, so I didn't even know it existed until a few months ago.
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Matthew
BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
servers are in London - no they never got broken into - and if you've seen the DC then you'd know why,
The eve servers didn't get broken into, no. But I do remember some connectivity issues associated with a theft from one of the London routing centers. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines. |
Mioelnir
KULT Production Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.30 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm Everyday Sovereignty Checks and changes Outpost Upgrades and extensions Summary statistics reports Asteroid/Ice Reseeding All proxy and Sol server node processes (not machines) are restarted to clear caches and memory.
These other tasks are run but not everyday (run on different days) Database Index rebuilds Graveyard cleaning (removal of destroyed items) Partial backups of parts of the Database (A full backup takes longer than 1 hour) Sometimes server reboots.
Other SQL task
You forgot the part about CCP John Proctor visiting every system and collecting all the corpses. Can't find the posting in which he confessed though
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ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.30 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: ghost st Why does eve still have a daily dt, instead of a weekly, or bi-weekly dt? Is it because too many game functions require dt? Or is these some underlying problem with the code that makes a daily dt necessary?
Well, usually, its to let the players some sleep a day - Or to shower, change your clothes or whatever...
But seriously, the server needs some time to rest, as there isn't multiple ones, so the wear & tear is pretty intense.
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Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.30 21:47:00 -
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Downtime happens daily because CCP decided with the nature of needing to check up on things such as POSes and warbills etc in EVE, they figured it would be better to have a daily hour rather than a weekly chunk of 5 or 6 hours at a time.
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searess
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Posted - 2008.05.30 21:56:00 -
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Knowning how long it takes to shutdown and reboot just 1 full blade enclosure I can see why CCP dont actually reboot the whole lot. it would take them the best part of an hour just to shutdown and restart all of the blades , Then you have all the full sized servers which generally take longer due to the post - scsi boot - os boot - database startup , Hijackzorzzzz
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Kola XXX
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.30 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Heroldyn we have the daily downtime, so that all the devs can login unseen and repair damaged bob structures.
/me hides
ding ding ding ... winner
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mcSpeedfreak
Draconis Cooperation Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:05:00 -
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cause you pay for it you have the right to play on a well maintained server. ...well... as well as the hardware allows. HELP my monitor isnt working is it turned on? Yes.. ok can you turn it off? Oh thanks .. that did it.. - based on a true story |
Mattikus
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 30/05/2008 01:45:53 Last I checked most MMORPG's had daily downtimes. It's usually the poor quality or small/free MMORPGS that have only a weekly dt.
EVE has no shards and running off the most powerful gaming server in the world. Anyone who has played the game long enough knows how complex the demographics are, how many people are on at once, and how many things go on at the same time on the game.
If a gaming server was a ship and your the engineer, a WoW server would be like a tugboat, except there is tons of them, whereas EVE Online server is like a battleship. CCP knows what they are doing and they engineered EVE very well and run this stuff off the best equipment out there, so that's why we don't have 2-hour dt's instead.
WoW has really tiny servers, a lot of them - but very tiny compared to EVE - yet they have to have a daily downtime still for all of them, and/or they often crash and break down; at least 1-2 of their servers always seem to be down due to technical problems.
That's why.
I wouldnt say eve is a battleship...I would say much larger...on the scale of aircraft carrier.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Clinically DT exists to annoy Australians.
Haha its from 9-10pm for me in Auzzie land, just makes me go to bed so i get ample sleep for school the next day. Although it does say something if i time my sleeping pattern for when EvE goes to sleep :D
DT is good, take the time to eat/shower/get outside (lol)
Sahriah Bloodstone Pilot of The Crimson Federation
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Mika Meroko
Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.02 00:46:00 -
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To prevent any EVE related RL deaths...
you know, force the addicts to... eat.. and drink.. and maybe nap abit..
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Sniper Wolf18
Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.06.02 01:12:00 -
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we have daily DT because hourly DT would just be stupid.
NEXT PLEASE!
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Tiirae
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.02 05:36:00 -
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Funny, nobody has actually stated WHY the DT needs to be every day instead of every 3rd day or once a week.
Two reasons:
1. The server code is complex and it's likely that after a certain amount of time the memory is highly fragmented and poorly utilised. Some memory leaks will be created and some threads will probably not be properly killed. Resetting the processes on the server, if not rebooting them completely, will clear all this up and prevent performance from degrading too obviously. Linghorn does mention this in his post, where he talks about clearing caches etc.
2. The practise of rebooting every night leads to a level of robustness in the startup procedures and makes trouble shooting restarts much easer. If the system doesn't restart cleanly, you only have 24 hrs since the last good restart so it's a lot easier to diagnose issues than if it had been 168 hours since the last reboot.
The 24 hour interval is obviously where CCP feels comfortable, I expect if the code & architecture was more robust they could leave it longer. The fact that there are additional maintenance tasks done during downtime is most likely an artifact that has resulted from the downtimes existing in the first place. There are ways to do these things while the system is live, but they've never had to do it because the daily DT has, and always will be, a fact of life.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2008.06.02 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Clinically DT exists to annoy Australians.
My favourite :) Followed closely by Langoliers, and the one about forcing addicts to go have a shower and eat!
All that junk about cleaning up memory, database maintenance and replacing broken hardware are red herrings, IMHO ;)
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Heinkel facility
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Posted - 2008.06.02 07:16:00 -
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DT? You guys talk about that thing that's allways going on at 4:00 in the morning? Living on Pacific Coast FTW :D
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.02 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: ghost st Why does eve still have a daily dt, instead of a weekly, or bi-weekly dt? Is it because too many game functions require dt? Or is these some underlying problem with the code that makes a daily dt necessary?
Because you touch yourself at night. Stop it at once!
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