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Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.05.31 13:42:00 - [1] o/ all Basicly i need a Solo and gang setup for the nighthawk, seen as it's shields im not to sure witch woud be the best modules to fit to get a ubber tank on it. Please only reply if you have a realy good setup for this ship. Jack/
Drezzster The Phoenix Rising	Posted - 2008.05.31 17:36:00 - [2] Search before you post! Someone asked almost the same question yesterday. Most people agree your better off with a Drake for PvP. As for a setup, how about you propose some ideas yourself first? I will say however that Shield relays with a shield recharger and less extenders gives a better recharge rate than more extenders with PDUs instead of relays. If passive is what you are going for.
TimMc Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.31 18:08:00 - [3] lol solo... piracy... nighthawk... Someone hit me.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.05.31 20:23:00 - [4] Alright ok, maybe solo setup may be little dumb thing to ask, but personaly was thinking of this High's -> 6x heavy missile launcher II's other slot not sure Medium -> 2x large shield extenders,2x invun field t2?? not quite sure about that, warp disruptur or a faction one, stasis web low's all shield power relays t2 rigs -> Field purger rigs and some ECM drones PS i searched for nighthawk fitting and it woudnt search, will check tho.
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.05.31 20:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Jack' Sparrow Alright ok, maybe solo setup may be little dumb thing to ask, but personaly was thinking of this High's -> 6x heavy missile launcher II's other slot not sure Medium -> 2x large shield extenders,2x invun field t2?? not quite sure about that, warp disruptur or a faction one, stasis web low's all shield power relays t2 rigs -> Field purger rigs and some ECM drones PS i searched for nighthawk fitting and it woudnt search, will check tho. So if you're solo in that.. who or what exactly do you plan to try and kill?
Xanos Blackpaw The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.05.31 20:37:00 - [6] i would recomend trying it in a drake first unless you got unlimited with isk coughiskbuyercough Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.05.31 20:41:00 - [7] Lol yeah drake is nice, and was plannin on killing Battlecruisers or lower, defo not a BS, but kind of just looking for the tank setup
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.31 21:48:00 - [8] I don't actually fly the Nighthawk, but what about something like this? [Nighthawk, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 For gang, replace the point and web with an EM hardener and a second invulnerability field.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.05.31 21:59:00 - [9] Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 31/05/2008 21:59:43 Thing with that setup is the tank, mostley i like the Passive setup posibly stick some Power relays
Bloody Rabbit Jita Miners	Posted - 2008.05.31 22:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Jack' Sparrow Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 31/05/2008 21:59:43 Thing with that setup is the tank, mostley i like the Passive setup posibly stick some Power relays I ran into two pirates sitting on a low sec gate using FOF missiles to pop the care-bears. They were not really pirating but just attacking random ships on the gate. No one bothered them as who wants to take the time to pop 2 nighthawks. Originally by: Radcjk PvP in eve can be sort of rough. It's closer to bad sex. Usually an hour of two of foreplay followed by 5 minutes of disappointment. And the surprise at the end.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.05.31 22:24:00 - [11] Passive or active NH's?
Janus Duo Divine Retribution	Posted - 2008.05.31 23:10:00 - [12] Okay...you're not gonna listen to me anyways so I don't know why I'm bothering buuuut... You clearly don't know how to fit a Drake for PvP much less a Nighthawk. PvP nowadays you're really looking for effective HP and good damage much more than good HP regen and crap damage. You seem to want to passive tank, unfortunatly when you passive tank with all SPR IIs your damage is crap and so is your capacitor. You struggle to run a few hardeners much less tackle gear and if you're solo there's no point in engaging if you can't tackle. In a gang you would annoy your gangmates more than your enemy with a massive tank and no damage. Nighthawk is overpriced, but it is a good PvP ship. Fit it correctly however. This setup is hard to fit and requires pretty high skills but is pretty good. Not as much effective HP as a good battleship but it'll do: NIGHTHAWK 6x HAM II, 1x Small Dim Nos 10MN MWD II, Disruptor II, Web II, Photon Field II, LSE II 3x BCU II, Suitcase II, RCU II 2x Core Field Extenders 5x Hobgoblin IIs/5x Warrior IIs/5x Hornet ECM drones, any of these can be good Funny thing is if you use a Drake fit like so: DRAKE 7x HAM II, 1x Small Dim Nos 10MN MWD, Faint Disruptor, Fleeting Web, LSE II, 2x Invuln II 3x BCU II, PDS II 3x Core Field Extenders 5x Hobgoblin IIs/5x Warrior IIs/5x Hornet ECM drones You get 75dps less than the hawk but 2k more effective HP for a whole heck of a lot less ISK. A much better learning ship. Both of these ships require near max fitting skills but you can drop some things like the small nos and downgrade some of the T2 mods to named to save CPU where needed. HAMs would be the weapon of choice for small gang PvP. Too many carebears train Heavies instead of HAMs for their carebearing needs then try to use em in PVP. The damge from heavies is just awful and the missiles are too slow to be all that useful at the ranges that they get as advantage over HAMs. Sure HAMs don't hurt the smaller targets as much, but that's what your drones are for. They also do a lot more damage.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.05.31 23:21:00 - [13] Nice infomation, question for the NH is that what kinda resistance u gonna get with the setup you gave me, other question is whats the MWD for, seems alittle of a waste?
Shiodome Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.06.01 03:01:00 - [14] the mwd is for moving. rumour has it that targets you shoot often move away from you, some of the more eveil ones even refuse to let you within web range if you've got Battlecruiser V, you'd be better off training another races cruiser V for a viable solo CS (sleipnir wouldn't be a bad option, you've already got the shield skills). the nighthawk doesn't really offer anything that can't be done by the drake just as well (or better ... i.e cost efficiency) so for pvp there genuinely is no point. but it's your game, do as you will. i'm doing much the same atm, training amarr cruiser V to make use of my good missile skills with the sacrilege and damnation. in the meantime using a drake as the best gank option available for caldari. _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.06.01 10:13:00 - [15] Well i checked my skills again and it seems i have minmatar cruiser V and amarr cruiser V and nice gunnery skills for eatch + shields for sleipner, maybe good to go for that, or posibly the Absolution, damanation. Surgestions?
Ecky X Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.06.01 10:41:00 - [16] Start out in a Battlecruiser (or cruiser, for that matter), or you'll be losing a lot of isk in your first few days of attempting piracy. Command ships are kindof "meh" in general.
Kardrae	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Jack' Sparrow Well i checked my skills again and it seems i have minmatar cruiser V and amarr cruiser V and nice gunnery skills for eatch + shields Originally by: Jack' Sparrow whats the MWD for, seems alittle of a waste? So you bought your character, plus some isk and want to solopwn in pvp? Start in cruisers or frigs and find some friends (Maybe Snigg or some other PvP school) to learn off before you take out a CS. Otherwise let me know where you are so I can come help you learn
Djan Anaplian KAOS CORP RELLIK ALUCARD Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:20:00 - [18] Just get a Vaga.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:21:00 - [19] Originally by: Jack' Sparrow Well i checked my skills again and it seems i have minmatar cruiser V and amarr cruiser V and nice gunnery skills for eatch + shields for sleipner, maybe good to go for that, or posibly the Absolution, damanation. Surgestions? ebay much? --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:25:00 - [20] Wrong answer and wrong answer, i know my stuff, i know how to pvp, just no idea about commandships coz never try'd em.
Djan Anaplian KAOS CORP RELLIK ALUCARD Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Jack' Sparrow Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 01/06/2008 11:30:14 Wrong answer and wrong answer, i know my stuff, i know how to pvp, just no idea about commandships coz never try'd em. Going to fit the ship myself. Definetly get a vaga.
Gypsio III Bambooule	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Jack' Sparrow i know my stuff, i know how to pvp Originally by: Jack' Sparrow other question is whats the MWD for, seems alittle of a waste?
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.06.01 11:57:00 - [23] Originally by: Gypsio III Originally by: Jack' Sparrow i know my stuff, i know how to pvp Originally by: Jack' Sparrow other question is whats the MWD for, seems alittle of a waste? Yeah, i know, i didn't know why you fitted a MWD onto it, due to nighthawk been used in many difrent way's, now i see why, like i sed befor, im attemting to learn about the NH so i can get 1 and fit it, but with all these nasty comments, im not realy getting anywhere
Nomakai Delateriel Shadow Company Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.06.01 12:05:00 - [24] PvPing without a MWD and expecting to not get blown up is like having sex without a condom and expecting to not get pregnant. Sometimes you don't even without a Condom/MWD, sometimes it happens even with the MWD/Condom. But it's a lot more likely without one. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.06.01 12:08:00 - [25] Yeah i agrea now with the MWD
Garmon Heretic Army	Posted - 2008.06.01 12:27:00 - [26] lol __________________________________ Vids about me raping peeps in my trusty battle boat
Shiodome Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.06.01 17:24:00 - [27] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel PvPing without a MWD and expecting to not get blown up is like having sex without a condom and expecting to not get pregnant. Sometimes you don't even without a Condom/MWD, sometimes it happens even with the MWD/Condom. But it's a lot more likely without one. i had sex without a condom, and didn't get pregnant ... what's your point? _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Prevelance Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.06.01 17:30:00 - [28] Edited by: Prevelance on 01/06/2008 17:33:30 (this is for max tank only) You can add tackle/ subtract tank from this point to accomodate needs. The principal stayes the same for alot of these ships. The nighthawk is interesting as when you max out the tank with the sheild harmonizing link, due to it's low slot's it will actually tank a bit more than the vulture, although because of the lower grid, this means you would have to drop to assalt launchers as your weapon. I'll show you the numbers both ways: Rigs: Core Defence Field Purger x2 Lows: 5x Sheild Power Relay II's Mids: 2x Large Sheild Extender II's 2x Invul Field II's 1x Photon Scattering Field II Highs: Seige Warfare Harmonizing Assalt Launcher II Assalt Launcher II Assalt Launcher II Assalt Launcher II Assalt Launcher II Assalt Launcher II In Gang Stats: Sustained Tanked DPS 1593 Resists: 80/ 89/ 87/ 86 Hitpoints: Effective 109,597. Heavy Launcher Accomodation Rigs: Core Defence Field Purger x2 Lows: 5x Sheild Power Relay II's Mids: 2x Large Sheild Extender II's 2x Invul Field II's 1x Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Missle Launcher II Heavy Missle Launcher II Heavy Missle Launcher II Heavy Missle Launcher II Heavy Missle Launcher II Heavy Missle Launcher II Cloak/ Whatever In Gang Stats: Sustained Tanked DPS 1479 Resists: 79/ 88/ 85/ 84 Hitpoints: Effective 102,794. Enjoy In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.
Jack' Sparrow Hell's Rejects	Posted - 2008.06.01 18:18:00 - [29] Thanks Prevelance, your help is mutch apreciated, been reading some other fittings i found out from a couple of freinds, generaly goes simlar to the one you and a few other ppl surguested. Jack. PS. Still looking for more sueguestions
Gypsio III Bambooule	Posted - 2008.06.01 18:22:00 - [30] Prevelance, what exactly is the point of those fits? I can see no use for them in PVE, let alone PVP.

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