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Vayi Mory venator vestigium	Posted - 2008.06.03 00:29:00 - [1] ok first off i when trough the basic topic here in the sticky found none recent. went to use eve search found notting. and battleclinic onfusses the hell out of me. It is simple i need a sniper rokh. allready have a full set of tech 2 425mm rails with spike and 3 mag stabs. (lol life AWU5) so i need mids lows and rigs. to maintain max range and than dps and than tank. and please no tech 2 rigs or faction stuff that is to much for a pvp ship. (yes i have one ready with a blaster fit to but those fittings are easy to be found wierd enough) ----- in vicis of bellum lex cado silens I respect forum mods so I aid them
Tanith YarnDemon	Posted - 2008.06.03 00:38:00 - [2] This is probably your average sniper fit for a rokh... [Rokh, Snipe] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Vayi Mory venator vestigium	Posted - 2008.06.03 00:39:00 - [3] Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon This is probably your average sniper fit for a rokh... [Rokh, Snipe] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] no rigs? or are the bonus they add not usefullenough to go against the cost of them? ----- in vicis of bellum lex cado silens I respect forum mods so I aid them
Tanith YarnDemon	Posted - 2008.06.03 00:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Vayi Mory Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon This is probably your average sniper fit for a rokh... [Rokh, Snipe] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] no rigs? or are the bonus they add not usefullenough to go against the cost of them? Feel free to slap on whatever cheap rigs you come by, such as resist rigs or whatever. Hybrid drigs tends to make the fit to hard, other rigs tend to be nothing but a waste of isk. Extenders work fine, but another 30-40m isk will almost double the cost of replacing the entire ship. In the end, you're better of getting a new ship out to the fight than surviving fire for 5 more BS's to get their locks on.
Vayi Mory venator vestigium	Posted - 2008.06.03 00:52:00 - [5] allright thank you for this information i will use it clever. goes of to train drones skills as she has none(on the char that flys the rokh that is) ----- in vicis of bellum lex cado silens I respect forum mods so I aid them
Stuart Price Black Water.	Posted - 2008.06.03 02:07:00 - [6] Edited by: Stuart Price on 03/06/2008 02:08:52 If you can afford it, using faction Iridium and swapping the tracking scripts for range scripts in the tracking comps gives you pretty much the same dps, on optimal of around 170km (shorter than spike but still more than enough) but TRIPLES your tracking. Also, you forgot the sensor booster "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Tanith YarnDemon	Posted - 2008.06.03 02:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Stuart Price Edited by: Stuart Price on 03/06/2008 02:08:52 If you can afford it, using faction Iridium and swapping the tracking scripts for range scripts in the tracking comps gives you pretty much the same dps, on optimal of around 170km (shorter than spike but still more than enough) but TRIPLES your tracking. Also, you forgot the sensor booster Pfft, targetting is for wussies! And thanks. ;)
Executor Tarkin	Posted - 2008.06.03 10:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Executor Tarkin on 03/06/2008 10:03:12 This is what I'm training for now. I threw the CDF in the rig slots specifically so that Kinetic and Thermal DDD wouldn't take me past my shield. The large shield transporter is, obviously, for gang repping. Use at your own discretion. [Rokh, Sniper] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L Large Shield Transporter II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5
Mona X Polish Task Forces C0VEN	Posted - 2008.06.03 10:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Executor Tarkin Hammerhead II x5 Hammerheads are to slow (and big for rokh). In drone bay you want at least five Warriors II, and then another five Warriors or ECM drones or repair drones.
Executor Tarkin	Posted - 2008.06.03 10:28:00 - [10] Originally by: Mona X Originally by: Executor Tarkin Hammerhead II x5 Hammerheads are to slow (and big for rokh). In drone bay you want at least five Warriors II, and then another five Warriors or ECM drones or repair drones. Yeah, fair enough.

Vayi Mory venator vestigium	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Executor Tarkin Edited by: Executor Tarkin on 03/06/2008 10:03:12 This is what I'm training for now. I threw the CDF in the rig slots specifically so that Kinetic and Thermal DDD wouldn't take me past my shield. The large shield transporter is, obviously, for gang repping. Use at your own discretion. [Rokh, Sniper] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L Large Shield Transporter II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 seeing the fact that where is will fight there are no DDD or even capships i wil be save of that stuff. about the inderium i will givbe that a look to as i love faction ammo it saved my ass more than once. ----- in vicis of bellum lex cado silens I respect forum mods so I aid them
Darth Felin	Posted - 2008.06.03 12:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon This is probably your average sniper fit for a rokh... [Rokh, Snipe] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Very strange setup for a sniper fleet. What is your locking range I bet it is much less then 150+km that are needed for fleet snipers
Tanith YarnDemon	Posted - 2008.06.03 12:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Darth Felin Very strange setup for a sniper fleet. What is your locking range I bet it is much less then 150+km that are needed for fleet snipers Surely you read the other replies before replying yourself?
Mialla	Posted - 2008.06.03 12:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Darth Felin Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon This is probably your average sniper fit for a rokh... [Rokh, Snipe] Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Very strange setup for a sniper fleet. What is your locking range I bet it is much less then 150+km that are needed for fleet snipers yeah found that out to but that is why is allways modify setups to my own need.
BiggestT Fun Inc Black-Out	Posted - 2008.06.03 14:43:00 - [15] for the drone bay id suggest either 5 med ecm drones or 5 light ecm and 5 warrior, u can fiddle around with shield repper dornes etc, but i find light rep drones a bit of a joke.. Boost Field commands! they need love :(
Allestin Villimar Dark Nova Crisis	Posted - 2008.06.24 18:38:00 - [16] This fits with a 3% engineering skill bonus implant (slot 6) and there's not many other things in slot 6 that are all that great for Caldari. Lows: 2x T2 Tracking Enhancer, 1x T2 Reactor Control Unit, 2x T2 Magnetic Field Stabilizer Mids: 2x T2 Sensor Booster (Range Script), 1x T2 Invulnerability Field, 1x T2 Large Shield Extender, 1x Caldari Navy Magnetic Scattering Amplifier, 1x Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Amplifier Highs: 8x T2 425mm railgun w/ Caldari Navy Iridium charges Rigs: 2x Hybrid Locus Coordinator 1x Hybrid Collision Accelerator According to EFT, this'll run about 12 1/2 minutes (or forever with the invuln field off), which is more than long enough for most fights. Range is 219+30 falloff, so you can't quite nail them at 249 reliably but there aren't really any other ships that can hit at 234 reliably, either, so you shouldn't have any issues. This is the best dps I've been able to get and still maintain a 215km+ range. ...in bed.
AKULA UrQuan Druuge Crimson Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.24 18:52:00 - [17] [Rokh, 425 Fleet] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Conjunctive Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L 425mm Railgun II, Spike L Ancillary Current Router I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Warrior II x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 rather use T2 350s myself and ditch the ACR. looking at 200M for all that if you shop around.
Bronson Hughes The. Conspiracy	Posted - 2008.06.24 19:49:00 - [18] Originally by: AKULA UrQuan rather use T2 350s myself and ditch the ACR. looking at 200M for all that if you shop around. For some reason, almost nobody tries to use 350s with Spike on a Rokh, which I find odd because you get wonderful range, similar damage compared to 425s, the tracking hit isn't quite as horrible (but still pretty bad) and it's a whole lot easier to fit. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Mialla	Posted - 2008.06.24 20:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Allestin Villimar This fits with a 3% engineering skill bonus implant (slot 6) and there's not many other things in slot 6 that are all that great for Caldari. Lows: 2x T2 Tracking Enhancer, 1x T2 Reactor Control Unit, 2x T2 Magnetic Field Stabilizer Mids: 2x T2 Sensor Booster (Range Script), 1x T2 Invulnerability Field, 1x T2 Large Shield Extender, 1x Caldari Navy Magnetic Scattering Amplifier, 1x Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Amplifier Highs: 8x T2 425mm railgun w/ Caldari Navy Iridium charges Rigs: 2x Hybrid Locus Coordinator 1x Hybrid Collision Accelerator According to EFT, this'll run about 12 1/2 minutes (or forever with the invuln field off), which is more than long enough for most fights. Range is 219+30 falloff, so you can't quite nail them at 249 reliably but there aren't really any other ships that can hit at 234 reliably, either, so you shouldn't have any issues. This is the best dps I've been able to get and still maintain a 215km+ range.
Allestin Villimar Dark Nova Crisis	Posted - 2008.06.25 07:34:00 - [20] Medium armor repper will only save you from something small, which you won't be able to outrun in a rokh, so I dropped the MWD and the medium repper. I'd rather warp away than try and outrun something in a rokh, anyway, as slow as it is. This has 224 optimal with 30 fall off, cap will be a problem after 6 1/2 minutes if you don't use rigs. Fits with AWU5 (Which I have) and a 3% engineering implant (which I also use): Highs: 8x T2 425mms w/L spike Mids: 2x T2 Sensor booster (1 with range, 1 with no script), 2x caldari resist amps (kin/em since those are the most likely sniping damages), 1x T2 LSE, 1x T2 invuln field Lows: 3x T2 Mag stabs, 1x T2 tracking enhancer, 1x T2 Damage Control No rigs, 338 dps, if you trust EFT that far. It is pretty accurate with it's fitting, though. ...in bed.

Gypsio III Bambooule	Posted - 2008.06.25 11:07:00 - [21] Edited by: Gypsio III on 25/06/2008 11:08:37 Quote: Rigs: 2x Hybrid Locus Coordinator 1x Hybrid Collision Accelerator Do these stack with Tracking Computers etc? It sounds like they should, but I seem to recall people saying that they didn't. But I also seem to recall people saying that EA changed them, so they do stack with TCs now after all... Edit - I mean Locus and Metastasis (optimal and tracking) rigs, stacking with the tracking and optimal effects of TCs and TEs.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Gypsio III Edited by: Gypsio III on 25/06/2008 11:08:37 Quote: Rigs: 2x Hybrid Locus Coordinator 1x Hybrid Collision Accelerator Do these stack with Tracking Computers etc? It sounds like they should, but I seem to recall people saying that they didn't. But I also seem to recall people saying that EA changed them, so they do stack with TCs now after all... Edit - I mean Locus and Metastasis (optimal and tracking) rigs, stacking with the tracking and optimal effects of TCs and TEs. Locus rigs for some reason do NOT stack with mods. Infact 3 range mods (tracking enhancers/computers) with 3 locus rigs on a Rokh lets you hit out to over 90km with antimatter in 425's. Just don't expect to fit much else on your **** because of grid issues! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:36:00 - [23] If you want (assuming level V - obviously your mileage may vary).... 369 dps 160+30km optimal + falloff. Cap Stable >80,000 effective hitpoints. 47 Sensor Strength. 3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic Unit II Damage Control Unit II Sensor Booster II (range) Tracking Computer II (range) Cap Recharger II ECCM Gravimetric II (best named is better for cap stability if you switch ammo) 2x Invulnerability Field II 8x 425mm Railgun II Ancillary Current Router 2x Hybrid Locus Coordinator ECM/logistics drones If you can tolerate firing halfway into falloff swap in Thorium to hit at 141+30 and get 415 DPS. I like this setup because you get a decent buffer, substantial ECM resistance, cap stability, and fleet ranges with Navy Lead/Thorium. If you have isk burning a hole in your pockets - try the faction 425's - substantial fitting savings - you can get some sick fits. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
AKULA UrQuan Druuge Crimson Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:48:00 - [24] Now MWD = fail
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:00:00 - [25] Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Now MWD = fail oops that was a non-roaming fit. 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 2x Power Diagnostic Unit II Damage Control Unit II 100MN MWD Sensor Booster II (range) Tracking Computer II (range) ECCM Gravimetric II (best named is better for cap stability if you switch ammo) 2x Invulnerability Field II 8x 425mm Railgun II Ancillary Current Router 2x Hybrid Locus Coordinator ECM/logistics drones 328 DPS @ 161+30 with navy lead cap lasts ~12 minutes - perma with invuls off. ~86,000 effective HP 47 sensor strength MWD enabled __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Allestin Villimar Dark Nova Crisis	Posted - 2008.06.25 19:55:00 - [26] Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Now MWD = fail No offense but if you want a sniper for a roaming set up, it sounds like you've already failed. ...in bed.
AKULA UrQuan Druuge Crimson Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.26 03:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Allestin Villimar Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Now MWD = fail No offense but if you want a sniper for a roaming set up, it sounds like you've already failed. 10 second align times. Greatly improves molbility even if you never leave the system. also, by going through one low-sec or null sec gate you're roaming at that point. MWD is a mandatory module for these kind of ships....all of them.


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