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Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Oftherocks Isn't it ironic that the cheese eating surrender monkeys (aka the Gallente), and the perpetual victims of the universe (aka the Minmatar), are the agressors spoiling for a fight? One would think based off current media accounts that either the Caldari State or the Amarr Empire would be the ones rattling sabers, but instead we see the sneaky Gallente and their allies the pirate Minmatar pushing for a bloody war. I guess actions speak much louder than hollow talk. Hopefully the State and the Empire won't be as forgiving as they have been in the past and this time they crush the war mongers once and for all A brief review of actual French history shows that they were pretty keen on aggressively invading other places for virtually all their history. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Babel NEPHILIM Wing	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:36:00 - [32] The Jove are currently occupied with hot lemony drinks and blankets ... after a particularly virulent bout of flu ... . URIEL Recruitish Threaddery
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:38:00 - [33] Why use GD when there's a dedicated forum for this kind of post?
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.06.03 11:53:00 - [34] Originally by: Cpt Fina Why use GD when there's a dedicated forum for this kind of post? This is clearly a forum for generals. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Algia Knightstorm	Posted - 2008.06.03 13:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Shakuul What I really don't understand is why the jovians haven't already conquered the galaxy. "The Jovians escaped the chaos that followed the closure of EVE remarkably well. Within the space of only a few centuries they had recovered, and were once again running a hi-tech society. They settled in a number of systems and founded an empire lasting for nine millennia, but even if the Jovians are by far the most technologically advanced of the races of EVE, they have still not recovered the splendor of their first empire. The disease within them keeps them in a reproductive straitjacket, preventing them from increasing their numbers sufficiently for their current empire to flourish."
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.06.03 13:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Shakuul What I really don't understand is why the jovians haven't already conquered the galaxy. The Gallete are space French and the Jovians are space Brits. They love reality TV as much as their anscestors. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Phaige Reaver Construction Services	Posted - 2008.06.03 14:43:00 - [37] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 03/06/2008 01:43:29 Originally by: Shakuul What I really don't understand is why the jovians haven't already conquered the galaxy. Bah.. The Jove are way to nerdy to conquer the galaxy. The only reason they beat the Amarr is because at that time the Amarr were a little too unflexible on fleet tactics. This time around I think things would be much different. That, or the Amar general leading the attack sent them his battle plans along with is escape plan so that they would be ready to backhand the Amarian fleet. ----------------------------------------------- You may be a King or a little Street Sweeper, but sooner or later you dance wi' de' Reaper!
Fofalus Baptism oF Fire	Posted - 2008.06.03 14:49:00 - [38] Originally by: Tek'a Rain Lies. A noted peace activist and builder of bridges throwing away the lives of a dedicated crew? The shielding and anti-collision equipment on-station just Happened to be offline? Whats that, the State seemed ready to give up their so-called peace talks and pound the war drums in a record-breaking second and a half of this assumed attack? Lies wrapped in propaganda against the Gallente. I see the assassination, in character as well as physically, of a hero and a crew of patriots. I see Boardroom Scum, Crushing the bodies of their own people to add more fuel to the new unjust war they hunger to start. They cannot abide our freedom. They can no longer tell their people that they are triumphant. They started the last war and they are committed to starting another, no matter the cost. A war based on ledger-book ink. Decide to be a pawn, or to stand like free men. Take the outstretched hand of peace, as brothers and friends, before your self-appointed "State" officials throw you into the furnace of their shiny war machine. This you whiny Caldari scum. And don't forget your history you pioneered the crashing big ships into things with the Chimera into a Gallente City on Caldari Prime.
Pliskkenn Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.06.03 15:00:00 - [39] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 03/06/2008 01:43:29 Originally by: Shakuul What I really don't understand is why the jovians haven't already conquered the galaxy. Bah.. The Jove are way to nerdy to conquer the galaxy. The only reason they beat the Amarr is because at that time the Amarr were a little too unflexible on fleet tactics. This time around I think things would be much different. Beams the size of battleships > Amarr battleships. ---
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.03 15:04:00 - [40] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 03/06/2008 01:43:29 Originally by: Shakuul What I really don't understand is why the jovians haven't already conquered the galaxy. Bah.. The Jove are way to nerdy to conquer the galaxy. The only reason they beat the Amarr is because at that time the Amarr were a little too unflexible on fleet tactics. This time around I think things would be much different. Actually, I'm fairly certain that it was the GIANT *** LASER. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Slade Hoo	Posted - 2008.06.03 15:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Shakuul What I really don't understand is why the jovians haven't already conquered the galaxy. cause they have lost one third of their fleet to amarr...so they aren't that uber as many people will tell you ;-)
Zora Community for Justice ParadoXon Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.03 15:22:00 - [42] Not all is at it seems, young one. There is no "good" or "bad" side here, just shades of grey. If you can't see through the deceptions I ask you to refrain from judgement, because certainly what you see on the news is the least believable account. Instead, ask yourself: who has something to gain by this? Who loses? War is only a profitable venture for those people who manipulate others into getting killed for them. But this is not only about money. There is a force in this universe, which is right at this moment gaining momentum, and power, controlling the conflict from the shadows. Reason will once more be substituted by battleships and guns. We all will have to decide where our allegiance lies, and there is only death waiting at the end of the line.
Daelin Blackleaf Naqam	Posted - 2008.06.03 15:42:00 - [43] Because terrorists and democracies don't start wars, right? The Caldari look to the bottom line, which is usually the benefit to their society as a whole and not an ISK figure. Economic power, military might, and technological superiority are their goals and tools, since they lack an overwhelming degree of any of these it is hardly beneficial to go to war at this time. Indeed the very threat of war on the horizon requires a restructuring of the State to ensure it is even ready to fight an outside threat. The Amarr have had two peaceful emperors of late, not the mention the fact that even a warlike one knows that the reclaiming is going to need a bigger force than they can field. Now would be a time for the Empire to build towards conquest or defense, not to go making another ill-prepared attempt at re-reclaiming the Minmatar. This and various social and political factors leave the Gallenteans and Minmatar as the easiest people to manipulate into setting the cluster aflame. The real question isn't why they are prompting war, but who is setting up the dominoes that are pressuring them in this direction. - in before "CCP" or "the Enheduanni". Personally I suspect the Jove either as a counter-play against the Enheduanni (provided they aren't actually a Joivian faction and that they exists at all) or as a stimulus to further the development of the capsuleers in their ongoing project to cure the Joivian disease. ---------------------------- Originally by: CCP Subscription I'm sorry Sir your European I'll have to charge you 58% extra

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