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Detshni
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:11:00 -
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The days of old were like.. I mined in my osprey, and the asteroids behaved. Then a time later I got a hulk, and now asteroids pop left and right, and there is no clue to when they pop so the activation time of the strip miners could have depraved me of my beloved ore.
So what can I do to try to resolve this`?
Instead of waiting for the cycles to end on the strip miners is it good to deactivate them from time to time, and get the ore, and then reactivate them?
just wondering.. ty
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Micia
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:15:00 -
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Survey Scanner module.  |

Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Micia Survey Scanner module. 
This. Get to within range of a good number of rocks, turn it on and you'll see how many units of ore are within each roid in the scanner's range (which, depending on the scanner, will be about the range of your mining laser - check the show info before you buy it). So you'll know when the thing's gonna pop.
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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Rabbitgod
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:00:00 -
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What most miners do is to try to increase their Staying Power is to think about something else. They make a mental list of the 10 highest batting averages of all time, count backward from 100, recite the Pledge of Allegiance--anything to put distance between themselves and their fear of pop their roid too quickly.
What is surprising to most miners is that these attempts at distraction--mental or physical--can make the roid pop even more quickly. Not what they bargained for! In addition to focusing away from enjoying mining, the miner is distanced from his mining sensations and responses. A key aspect of Staying Power is the ability to keep in contact with your sensations and when roid pop is about to happen. Miners who have problems with premature roid poping don't know when they are about to pop and thus cannot control it. By making the miner more out of contact with his tool, these attempts to distract and dull sensations make the problem even worse.
An approach that works better is to be physically, mentally, as well as emotionally, involved with the act of mining. Here are some simple methods to help you along. One is to use positions that provide less intense friction to the mining laser--like having the roid on top. cycling more slowly also helps to delay poping.
Mining therapists working with miners with serious problems controlling popping use a series of exercises called Sensate Focus. These shared progressive touch activities help both miner and roid become increasingly familiar with their own and each other by concentrating on their physical sensations and reactions. First they focus on sensations of being targeted and locked on to in different areas, excluding the veldspar, and work gradually up to being genitally mined.
The Stop-Start technique is often used when the mining op begin setting up and move to actual mining. During set up/mining the miner cycles a few times and then stops if he senses he's about to pop. This is repeated until he eventually feels in greater control.
One thing that clinicians actively discourage is apologies. Miners who are worried about not lasting long enough are often anxious and apologetic during and just after popage. This makes their partners more tense and further interferes with their ability to be physically, mentally and emotionally in the mining op encounter.
What makes mining good in general also makes for good Staying Power. Good mining is based on good communication between partners. It is also based on working out issues in the relationship so that emotional pressures do not distract from mining.
So, for better Staying Power, don't distract yourself by counting backward from 1000, don't use a desensitizing cream or feel guilty about having popping. Be more fully emotionally and physically available to your veldspar, master your responses and ENJOY a deeper sense of mining intimacy.
I hope that helps, your a brave man for discussing your issue on a public forum.
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Bel Amar
Interslice Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:02:00 -
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Download Eve Miner Timer. Combine it with a survey scanner, input your mining rate, the size of the roid, and it will calculate when the roid is going to be exhausted, letting you know so you can stop the cycle then and there
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rabbitgod ...awesomeness...
I was going to post something like this, but you sir beat me too it and hands down, well done 
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Detshni
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:06:00 -
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aah, ok. Ty-
Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:07:00 -
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Veldagra 
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ClawKnight
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rabbitgod awesome
oh lawd win  
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Rabbitgod
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Skogen Gump
Originally by: Rabbitgod ...awesomeness...
I was going to post something like this, but you sir beat me too it and hands down, well done 
Well I am in Veto and while we don't swing towards veldspar we do like make it last long enough to get paid.
Cigar
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ollobrains2
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:13:00 -
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the aim is to pop as many as possible
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Rabbitgod
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains2 the aim is to pop as many as possible
While that might be fun for you think of the poor vel and how messy that is. Not to mention popping anything that floats is a sure fire way to catch an MTD.
Johnson.
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Iyanah
MX3 Development Zzz
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rabbitgod Edited by: Rabbitgod on 03/06/2008 10:13:38
What most miners do is to try to increase their Staying Power is to think about something else. They make a mental list of the 10 highest batting averages of all time, count backward from 100, recite the Pledge of Allegiance--anything to put distance between themselves and their fear of popping their roid too quickly.
I just grab a good book and a pint, then I'm set. untill I need another pint. ========================================== that's no moon... oh, wait, yes it is, the space station's out the other window. |

Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.03 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rabbitgod
Originally by: Skogen Gump
Originally by: Rabbitgod ...awesomeness...
I was going to post something like this, but you sir beat me too it and hands down, well done 
Well I am in Veto and while we don't swing towards veldspar we do like make it last long enough to get paid.
Cigar
We teach our youngsters well... 
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |

Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Detshni The days of old were like.. I mined in my osprey, and the asteroids behaved. Then a time later I got a hulk, and now asteroids pop left and right, and there is no clue to when they pop so the activation time of the strip miners could have depraved me of my beloved ore.
So what can I do to try to resolve this`?
Instead of waiting for the cycles to end on the strip miners is it good to deactivate them from time to time, and get the ore, and then reactivate them?
just wondering.. ty
Best advice so far is to use a scanner.
Other advice:
Hit different rocks with your strips, don't pile them on the same rock. If you use drones then get within their optimal range of the rock but have them mine off a different rock as well, then it should be fairly easy to tell how long a rock will last for with a scanner based on your m3/cycle.
I tend to de-activate and re-activate the lasers if I am getting to the point the rock is about to die or when I am getting close to full cargo/can/whatever. Just be aware you can bleed your cap dry doing it a lot.
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Berand
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rabbitgod
Stuff
I'm in the best corp ever. :D
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Xparky
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Veldagra 
    
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.03 17:22:00 -
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Dont know why but this thread made me think of this little game
http://www.k2xl.com/games/boomshine/
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Detshni
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Posted - 2008.06.04 06:51:00 -
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ok, awesome! again thanx for the help guys :D
Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear. |

Vagablonde
Ouruboros Trading
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Posted - 2008.06.04 06:57:00 -
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If you keep cycling your stripper your gonna be out of cap real fast :( ________________ the way back home is always long, but if you're close to me i'm holding on. |

Novemb3r
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.04 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vagablonde If you keep cycling your stripper your gonna be out of cap real fast :(
I cycle my strippers every couple of weeks. It keeps the clients coming back for something new. -
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Karanth
Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.04 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Micia Survey Scanner module. 
First answer is best answer.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.04 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Novemb3r
Originally by: Vagablonde If you keep cycling your stripper your gonna be out of cap real fast :(
I cycle my strippers every couple of weeks. It keeps the clients coming back for something new.
quoted for teh win :)
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Audrea
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:35:00 -
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If it still doesn't work for you, we encourage you to call us for help. We provide surrogate partners for a humble fee, they act like your real roid partners, and would teach you tricks, without permanently damaging your relationships with them!
Satisfaction guranteed, ask your mature roids for reference and recommendations! 
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Rabbitgod
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.04 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea If it still doesn't work for you, we encourage you to call us for help. We provide surrogate partners for a humble fee, they act like your real roid partners, and would teach you tricks, without permanently damaging your relationships with them!
Satisfaction guranteed, ask your mature roids for reference and recommendations! 
Best idea ever in the history of veto. We'll use Sicieler.
Cup cakes.
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Thenoran
Knights of MADD
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Posted - 2008.06.04 11:42:00 -
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Made a tool which might help you in this.
Ore Depletion Calculator ------------------------
Mining over 4000m3 per cycle...with a Rokh |

Jintau Kawazoe
Isonami Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.04 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xparky
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Veldagra 
    
I'm glad I'm not the only one that LOL'D for all the wrong reasons when reading the OP subject  
Isonami Syndicate Recruitment Thread pew pew! |
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