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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.03 23:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Major Death
Quote:
funny I read that as
"More fiction news"
Except its just FW fiction news, nice vidoes and stuff, but if your not part of FW, you have no input.
1000 non-FW RPs do RP stuff - Nothing.
100 Alts fart about in FW - Video and major universe shift.
what are talking about they have always had RP news, and alliance RP news. now there will be more rp news.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.06.03 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/06/2008 23:22:32
Originally by: Nuyan Zahedi
but I assume you can change standings to a faction, so you can set all the player corporations in faction you hate to red and shoot them all. That's a lot of new targets you can shoot at.
I EDIT: think you are wrong. You can only shoot FW participants if you are FW aligned. Otherwise you will recieve the same penalties that ship destruction and pod killing incure.
Slade
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Oedus Caro
Cross Roads
Ouroboros Cross Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.03 23:35:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Major Death
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i stopped reading here...
Capital 'I'... 
...all by itself is a fragment.
 Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.06.03 23:42:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 03/06/2008 23:43:27
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/06/2008 23:22:32
Originally by: Nuyan Zahedi
but I assume you can change standings to a faction, so you can set all the player corporations in faction you hate to red and shoot them all. That's a lot of new targets you can shoot at.
I EDIT: think you are wrong. You can only shoot FW participants if you are FW aligned. Otherwise you will recieve the same penalties that ship destruction and pod killing incurr.
Sorta kinda.
You can't freefire just anyone anywhere, but i don't think that's what Nuyan meant: just that you can set your standings and red the opposing participants; since much (most? all?) of this will be taking place in lowsec, and not near anything remotely resembling a sentry gun, you may blast whomever you please.
This is how RP-aligned Alliance pilots and pewpewpew-aligned Pirate pilots and isk-aligned Merc pilots will all play a factor in FW.
And of course you can (assuming you spare the slots and the isk) wardec anyone who supports the Evil Terrible _______ Faction, and opposes your Good True ______ Kitten-Loving Faction.
edit: red the oppositing player corps and pilots, i meant. not "the militias" as in the faction itself. you can't dec it, but i would assume you can set it to -10 and see involved parties as [-], yeah?
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jna
Black Ash Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.04 21:50:00 -
[35]
Originally by: EvilSpork
your and you're are two totally different words meaning two totally different things.
Three totally different words, I think you'll find. 
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Morcam
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Posted - 2008.06.04 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Morcam on 04/06/2008 22:23:13
This guy hit it on the head. You just simply can't imagine in a video game. You and the "Official Story" are not in the same sandbox. You have your sand, it has it's. Were you saying that RP was awful before this? No, and RP is not changing. You are not getting everything that you want, but does it matter? RP is already based on imagination, rather than actual gameplay elements. If you hate the FW that much, don't do it, or go into individual corps and do it. You have three character slots on the same account, use one for a corp alt.
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Raastah Fedajin
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 04/06/2008 23:51:55
Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 04/06/2008 23:49:48
Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 04/06/2008 23:49:01
I am playing EVE for some weeks now and I think it is sad what I have to read here.
CCP is just doing the right thing here (without knowing if there will be technical problems at the start of FW, of course):
New players that are joining a corp are role playing in their small corp world first.
Then they maybe join an alliance and their roleplay world increases.
But apart from the sandbox way of gameplay there always is the history of EVE.
And I never got the point, why Minmatar would give some Armarr soldier one of their faction ships at all.
Now there is a basic role play element coming for all players that are not in a roleplaying corp/alliance.
But does that take away the roleplaying element from them? NO
You can play the same way you did before. But what is roleplaying about if not about adjusting to new elements or storylines.
Nobody knows how FW will work.
The pirates may be a problem BUT, there will be 1 channel for each faction.
So what are we talking about, 10 players fighting in FW for each faction or 50 players, 100 players or 1000 players.
I really love to see some pirates faces sitting at a gate gatecamping as suddenly a group of 50-100 Rifters are jumping in.
All PVP noobs now leaded by CCP to their first PVP experience. All motivated,brave and wanting to show that the Minmatar will not go back into slavery.
And as this group of guys is down to 30 ships suddenly 10 Tech II fitted BS of a Minmatar alliance jump in to help their brothers make it to the mission complex.
Is this alliance playing FW? Yes! Do the have to leave the alliance? No!
Is it roleplaying? Yes?
Think about the impact that a big alliance taking part in helping one of the races has on the other races and other alliances.
There are rankings showing the best FW pilots. There will be fights to make them join alliances, some fighters will open own corps, schools, alliances whatever.
You guys playing the game for years can make the difference in FW and use the fresh wind FW brings to change the (roleplay) future of EVE.
Or you can sit in your alliance channel ranting :"They are changing the game and I wanted to play it without adapting for the next years..buhuuu!"
Whenever I as a beginner asked about a story I was told by the roleplayers that all I should do is create my own story, my own world.
And right now you (same) guys want to tell me you cannot create your story around FW? (if you like to-you donŠt have to. But if you donŠt want to, why complain at all??)
Come on--try harder!!
Fly safe!
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Masu'di
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.06.05 00:14:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Eddie Gordo
Originally by: EvilSpork
Originally by: Major Death
Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05
So your looking at this problem
you meant to say "so YOU ARE LOOKING."
my blood started boiling round about here...
Not everyone is English on these forums and many of them do well just to get their point accross.
Kakosgrammatikiphobia is a serious and debilitating condition for thousands of people around the world. It can have detrimental affects to a sufferers relations with their friends, family and loved ones. Many people with Kakosgrammatikiphobia find they are unable to work, due to their social failings and awkwardness.
That guy needs our help and support, I hope you can calm your anger down, and emphasise with his situation.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.05 00:24:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Masu'di
Originally by: Eddie Gordo
Originally by: EvilSpork
Originally by: Major Death
Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05
So your looking at this problem
you meant to say "so YOU ARE LOOKING."
my blood started boiling round about here...
Not everyone is English on these forums and many of them do well just to get their point accross.
Kakosgrammatikiphobia is a serious and debilitating condition for thousands of people around the world. It can have detrimental affects to a sufferers relations with their friends, family and loved ones. Many people with Kakosgrammatikiphobia find they are unable to work, due to their social failings and awkwardness.
That guy needs our help and support, I hope you can calm your anger down, and emphasise with his situation.
Why, that's not a real word! And you left out an and near the end! And the spelling! It's emphasize!
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Falcon Troy
Awesome People Secret Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.05 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jakke Logan
Yeah, this expansion is "FAIL" all around. CCP is arrogantly NOT listening to ANYONE, they are all about GET IT OUT, GET IT OUT NOW!
Hopefully they learn the right lesson from this. LISTEN to the players. WE after all own this game, not CCP. No player=no subs=no money=no booze and hookers.
That's the fact of life. SOE failed to learn it. Will CCP?
Than quit if you hate the game so much? Apparently you think CCP will give a rat's ass about your sub but they won't. They have thousands of happy subscribers who love this game. Maybe you should look at whose really being arrogant here. CCP doesn't owe RP alliances anything.
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Lord Fitz
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 01:30:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Grytok
Most missions will be deadspaces. No MWD there to be activated, sorry
MWD's can be used in FW deadspace. ;)
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.05 02:27:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Grytok
Most missions will be deadspaces. No MWD there to be activated, sorry
I guess you missed the dev blog saying that in these specific deadspaces MWD usage is enabled.
As for the RP alliances getting the shaft...
Well nothing in this world is perfect and we all had to make a choice. Instead of crying about the choice, it might be better to go on and take the choice.
It might not be an easy one, but after all what all RP entities wanted when the alliances were created was to provide a big militia for their faction. CCP just created a different tool for that (Militias). If you don't like it don't join. There is a word called cooperation. Cooperate with the militia members and help them complete the objectives. There are many things that can be done.
Also don't forget that CCP didn't exclude alliances from FW for ever. They just want to see how it will go and will act accordingly. We as Role players (who have been waiting for such a long time for this) should support it, instead of bashing it.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.05 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Masu'di
Kakosgrammatikiphobia ..... Kakosgrammatikiphobia
That guy needs our help and support, I hope you can calm your anger down, and emphasise with his situation.
Aman re atheofove :)
Take out the "s" at least
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Masu'di
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.06.05 17:38:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Masu''di on 05/06/2008 17:38:45
Originally by: Tarminic
It's emphasize!
Opening up that can of worms are we?
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Terminus adacai
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:24:00 -
[45]
I don't understand why alliances can't just create a corp outside of the alliance and let who wants to take part in FW join said corp?
Is it that hard? Alliances have plenty of pvp available and better rewards. it has already been stated that reward for FW will be low at first til they get a feel for how it is going to work out.
I just fail to see what all the complaints are about. Keep your alliance intact, and let whomever wants to go FW can.
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Spineker
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:33:00 -
[46]
I just want some freaking sharks with freaking laser beams on their head! Is that too much to ask for?
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Novemb3r
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.06 01:45:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Jakke Logan
WE after all own this game, not CCP.
Players rent the game from CCP. CCP own it and can do whatever the please. The only thing paying your sub gives you is the ability to connect and play the game. Don't like it, don't pay.
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