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Major Death Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:32:00 - [1] Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05 Quote: Greyscale: We're looking over the feedback from the players, particularly WRT the various RP-oriented alliances, and we're looking at what we can do to ease the pain of certain groups who feel disadvantaged by this So your looking at this problem along with Assault Frigates then? Expect some fix in about 2010 if the Amarr fix was anything to go by. Quote: Greyscale: And yes, I absolutely and unreservedly agree with the suggestion that you don't need the FW mechanics to RP! Nice, except with FW being the offical RP part of the game it freezing the other RP'ers out. FW gives yous ranks and LP's, other RP gets even less support. Quote: Ginger: Fiction news related to players the goings on in the world of EVE, the fictional story of EVE Ginger: Which, as it happens, is currently very busy with many nasty , interesting, confusing and exhilerating happenings as we build up to the Empyrean Age release Ginger: In the past, the fiction news hasnt had much affect on gameplay however with the build up to Empyrean Age we have got the resources from other departments to actually change the world to reflect the changes described in the news. So the one piece of support for existing RP'ers, i.e. the fiction news is now just a tool for FW. The final kick in the teeth for any existing RP'ers, no FW and now no fiction news. Oh wait, we get a thread in some backwater part of the forum that the DEVs don't visit to make us feel better. Thanks CCP. My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;) CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!'
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:36:00 - [2] funny I read that as "More fiction news"
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:39:00 - [3] Edited by: Tarminic on 03/06/2008 18:39:05 Originally by: Major Death Quote: Ginger: In the past, the fiction news hasnt had much affect on gameplay however with the build up to Empyrean Age we have got the resources from other departments to actually change the world to reflect the changes described in the news. So the one piece of support for existing RP'ers, i.e. the fiction news is now just a tool for FW. The final kick in the teeth for any existing RP'ers, no FW and now no fiction news. Oh wait, we get a thread in some backwater part of the forum that the DEVs don't visit to make us feel better. Thanks CCP. WTF are you smoking? I'm not sure what you're reading, but I read this as that they'll be using news to update the current holdings in factional warfare on occasion. How, from that statement, do you get anything about reducing the amount of fiction news any time in the near or far future? EDIT: Also, there is no prize for creating the millionth post on a topic. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Major Death Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:40:00 - [4] Quote: funny I read that as "More fiction news" Except its just FW fiction news, nice vidoes and stuff, but if your not part of FW, you have no input. 1000 non-FW RPs do RP stuff - Nothing. 100 Alts fart about in FW - Video and major universe shift. My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;) CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!'
Zeba Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Major Death Quote: funny I read that as "More fiction news" Except its just FW fiction news, nice vidoes and stuff, but if your not part of FW, you have no input. 1000 non-FW RPs do RP stuff - Nothing. 100 Alts fart about in FW - Video and major universe shift. I think you may need to add a few zeros to the FW alts farting about. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.03 18:53:00 - [6] FW certainly ain't what the "traditional" Eve roleplayers were looking for. That doesn't mean we can't find ways to contribute...in many cases without leaving our alliances. Depends on how extreme you're willing to be. In Ushra'Khan's case, your folks have long set the precident of attacking targets with high Amarr standings in lowsec...no reason that can't segway nicely into faction warfare without having to join any militia. CVA may have to become appropriately more zealous as well, but that's an issue still under discussion Something we have already set a precident for is anti-pirate activity...and there's sure to be plenty of pirates taking advantage of fresh lowsec targets, so we definitely still have that option as well...applied directly to supporting Amarr faction militia pilots. Yeah, it's not what a certain clique of players were looking for. But frankly the optimists (and often trolls) are right: we can find our way to participate without having to abandon who/what we currently are. Frankly, rank and loyalty points and/or phat l00tz isn't what I'm after. Nor am I looking for my name/organizational name in the ingame news. I just want to participate. I'll be able to do that, even if it's not in the way I had hoped or imagined.
Major Death Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 19:05:54 Quote: That doesn't mean we can't find ways to contribute...in many cases without leaving our alliances. Depends on how extreme you're willing to be. In Ushra'Khan's case, your folks have long set the precident of attacking targets with high Amarr standings in lowsec...no reason that can't segway nicely into faction warfare without having to join any militia. CVA may have to become appropriately more zealous as well, but that's an issue still under discussion Something we have already set a precident for is anti-pirate activity...and there's sure to be plenty of pirates taking advantage of fresh lowsec targets, so we definitely still have that option as well...applied directly to supporting Amarr faction militia pilots. While it all looks ok on paper, in reality it is participation by ganking people at gates. Some limited ficiton impact yes, by a very indirect route, but not exactly the stuff of RP. Quote: Frankly, rank and loyalty points and/or phat l00tz isn't what I'm after. Nor am I looking for my name/organizational name in the ingame news. I just want to participate. I'll be able to do that, even if it's not in the way I had hoped or imagined. I don't believe any of the existing or future RP/FW community is. Its just CCP haven't even offered an olive branch to all the people they excluded. My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;) CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!'
Jakke Logan F Off And Die	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:09:00 - [8] Yeah, this expansion is "FAIL" all around. CCP is arrogantly NOT listening to ANYONE, they are all about GET IT OUT, GET IT OUT NOW! Hopefully they learn the right lesson from this. LISTEN to the players. WE after all own this game, not CCP. No player=no subs=no money=no booze and hookers. That's the fact of life. SOE failed to learn it. Will CCP?
Sopha Serpentia Core Dynamics	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:12:00 - [9] Although it sucks for you I agree 100% with CCP in this instance. If you (RPers) want to get involved in faction warfare you can dissolve your alliances and join the existing NPC "alliance" like everyone else (make alts?). Or you can wait and see of CCP instigates some kind of way for player alliances to get involved, and knowing CCP they probably only have less than half of stuff they wanted to put in FW in this release and will dribble the rest out in future patches. Alliance mechanics exist ONLY for the 0.0 sandbox, they are nothing more than a 1 billion is chat channel, an expensive naming service and a wardec avoider in high sec. I never understood what so many corps rush to make allainces in high sec, just seems like a waste of isk too me.
Jakke Logan F Off And Die	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Sopha Serpentia Although it sucks for you I agree 100% with CCP in this instance. If you (RPers) want to get involved in faction warfare you can dissolve your alliances and join the existing NPC "alliance" like everyone else (make alts?). Or you can wait and see of CCP instigates some kind of way for player alliances to get involved, and knowing CCP they probably only have less than half of stuff they wanted to put in FW in this release and will dribble the rest out in future patches. Alliance mechanics exist ONLY for the 0.0 sandbox, they are nothing more than a 1 billion is chat channel, an expensive naming service and a wardec avoider in high sec. I never understood what so many corps rush to make allainces in high sec, just seems like a waste of isk too me. The end result of FW as being rammed down our throats is NO ONE will be happy. The RP'ers are already unhappy. PVP'ers will be unhappy. Those who want to participate in it even AS IS will be unhappy when they find out they are pirate food. Even the pirates will be unhappy as their targets will dry up quickly. Ultimately even those who worked on FW for CCP will be unhappy because they will see all their work for naught. By failing to go the last mile, they have invalidated the first 99 miles.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Major Death While it all looks ok on paper, in reality it is participation by ganking people at gates. Some limited ficiton impact yes, by a very indirect route, but not exactly the stuff of RP. Well, isn't it roleplay? Something CVA has learned in Providence is that providing even an imperfect protection for a population of players combined with solid public relations (just people skills, really) is a great way to have an impact and build community. All roleplay ever really has been is an effort to impact the Eve story...and you can do that flying alongside a FW militia as an independent organization. And "credit where credit is due" will surely come into play if you keep lines of communication open with Minmatar milita pilots and prove yourselves useful. "...militia General such-and-so told ISD reporters the defense of system x would have proved futile without the constant assistance of skilled Ushra'Khan pilots who bolstered defensive efforts by blah blah blah" Know what I mean?
Eddie Gordo Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:19:00 - [12] Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 03/06/2008 19:20:44 Originally by: Major Death Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 19:05:54 Quote: That doesn't mean we can't find ways to contribute...in many cases without leaving our alliances. Depends on how extreme you're willing to be. In Ushra'Khan's case, your folks have long set the precident of attacking targets with high Amarr standings in lowsec...no reason that can't segway nicely into faction warfare without having to join any militia. CVA may have to become appropriately more zealous as well, but that's an issue still under discussion Something we have already set a precident for is anti-pirate activity...and there's sure to be plenty of pirates taking advantage of fresh lowsec targets, so we definitely still have that option as well...applied directly to supporting Amarr faction militia pilots. While it all looks ok on paper, in reality it is participation by ganking people at gates. Some limited ficiton impact yes, by a very indirect route, but not exactly the stuff of RP. Quote: Frankly, rank and loyalty points and/or phat l00tz isn't what I'm after. Nor am I looking for my name/organizational name in the ingame news. I just want to participate. I'll be able to do that, even if it's not in the way I had hoped or imagined. I don't believe any of the existing or future RP/FW community is. Its just CCP haven't even offered an olive branch to all the people they excluded. FW guys are the only ones that can start/stop timers but ANYONE can enter the FW complexes and anoyne can fight at the control bunkers. We arent limited to gate ganking at all, especially as Ushra'khan is going to be running a FW corp instead of its traditional training one (that u'k alts and u'k friends are also welcome to join) Yeah it sucks that we cant actually be a part of it directly and get the medals ect but I think we can contribute a lot to whats going on we might just end up with -10 sec status....which shouldnt be a problem for a bunch of freedom fighters/terrorists anyhow :p + well, pirates...... we can kill a lot of pirates :) Now Recruiting
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Jakke Logan Yeah, this expansion is "FAIL" all around. CCP is arrogantly NOT listening to ANYONE, they are all about GET IT OUT, GET IT OUT NOW! Hopefully they learn the right lesson from this. LISTEN to the players. WE after all own this game, not CCP. No player=no subs=no money=no booze and hookers. That's the fact of life. SOE failed to learn it. Will CCP? Ahem. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Jakke Logan Originally by: Sopha Serpentia Although it sucks for you I agree 100% with CCP in this instance. If you (RPers) want to get involved in faction warfare you can dissolve your alliances and join the existing NPC "alliance" like everyone else (make alts?). Or you can wait and see of CCP instigates some kind of way for player alliances to get involved, and knowing CCP they probably only have less than half of stuff they wanted to put in FW in this release and will dribble the rest out in future patches. Alliance mechanics exist ONLY for the 0.0 sandbox, they are nothing more than a 1 billion is chat channel, an expensive naming service and a wardec avoider in high sec. I never understood what so many corps rush to make allainces in high sec, just seems like a waste of isk too me. The end result of FW as being rammed down our throats is NO ONE will be happy. The RP'ers are already unhappy. PVP'ers will be unhappy. Those who want to participate in it even AS IS will be unhappy when they find out they are pirate food. Even the pirates will be unhappy as their targets will dry up quickly. Ultimately even those who worked on FW for CCP will be unhappy because they will see all their work for naught. By failing to go the last mile, they have invalidated the first 99 miles. I simply do not get this. How is ANYTHING being rammed down your throat? If you dont JOIN FW, nothing changes for you. If you CANNOT join cause you are in an alliance, how is it ANY different from how it is now, where FW simply does not exist? Nothing is being REMOVED from the game, nothing is being changed about how RP Alliances have been operating this entire time. Ive never seen so many people cry so hard over optional content being added to an internet spaceship game that can be ignored if you so choose at no personal loss. Giant alliances joined FW enmass would destroy FW. If you want to try it, drop from the alliance and try it, and get over it. Originally by: Meridius Dex I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability
Ethaet Aliastra	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:32:00 - [15] I don't RP but I don't like how CCP is screwing over non FW RPers, especially ones in alliances. -------------------------------------------------------------- Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. There you go. Now that wasn't so hard
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:33:00 - [16] Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn Giant alliances joined FW enmass would destroy FW. Personal opinion; you don't get Eve at all if you don't think this is essentially going to happen anyway. I feel RP alliances have a valid grievance, but at the end of the day we have a few options, right? Continue to moan about the situation...which, after years of being told "we're gonna take care of you, roleplayers, just wait 'til we show you faction warfare!" seems more or less futile. Quit...which, frankly, I'm not upset enough to do. or Dry our eyes and find a way to make it work...which is what roleplay alliances have become experts at anyway. So here I am, after my initial outbursts in that particular thread that went on for quite some time when FW was loudly announced a couple weeks back, condoning a more can-do attitude from my fellow roleplayers.
mentalmonkey	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:43:00 - [17] Why is everyone so negative towards this free expansion? If you want to take part make an alt or if you are a true RPer you would leave your alliance fighting over empty space and help defend your empire. You know why they wont allow alliances to join at the moment why cant you just accept that? or just consolidate the alliance into one corp or make alts and a corp for alts, CCP is not stopping you taking advantage of this update only you are! CCP have listened plenty and may even allow alliances to take part in FW at a later date but it would ahve been a bad ideal to allow them at first and potentially ruin FW for the new PVPers its targeting and put them off the idea. SOE (in the case of SWG) listened to all the forum whiners complaining about classes being unbalanced rather than just playing the game and adapting, thats what brought on the NGE so CCP cant just take a few whine threads as an overall opinion of the playerbase. Yes, I'm looking forward to FW.
EvilSpork Invicta.	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Major Death Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05 So your looking at this problem i stopped reading here... YOU'RE. so my looking what? you meant to say "so YOU ARE LOOKING." your = your awful grasp of english you're = *you are* not getting your point across
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.03 19:52:00 - [19] Originally by: mentalmonkey Yes, I'm looking forward to FW. What?! That's impossible! FW is terrible and there is no one anywhere that's looking forward to it ever! Raarrhahrhahr! tantrum ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Grytok moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:03:00 - [20] I must say, even if I'm not interested in FW at all, that it's a slap in the face for all the RPers in EvE to this date. CVA, PIE, UNITY and many more are getting excluded, or they've to withdraw, what they've built up in the last 5 freakin years. Leaving corp and/or alliance is not an option tbqfh, because we've roles, we cannot withdraw. Directors, Traders, Personal Managers, etc... they simply are not able to leave their current alliance/corp. So Factional Warfare is nice for those not involved in alliances, yeah, great. 75% of the people not involved in alliances don't give a **** about Factional Warfare, because they don't want to PvP and they'll never set a foot into LowSec nor leaving their n00b-Corp, where they're are safer staying in HighSec. So who does join Factional Warfare? Right. Alt-Characters! Great job.
Eddie Gordo Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:04:00 - [21] Originally by: EvilSpork Originally by: Major Death Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05 So your looking at this problem you meant to say "so YOU ARE LOOKING." my blood started boiling round about here... Not everyone is English on these forums and many of them do well just to get their point accross.
Major Death Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:15:00 - [22] Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 20:16:55 Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 20:15:49 When someone has so little to add that they spot a simple mistake of grammar the you know its time to call it. Yeah FW is a lame ass shoehorn job at the moment, a late Beta at best. Yes CCP as per normal show their ability to annoy everyone despite not doing anything to warrant it, offering people an olive branch but accidentally poking them in the eye in doing so. Yet inspite of all this, somewho it will turnout all right in the final cut. At the end of the day its only a game, and despite all its faults we will all still enjoy it. To the relief of Tarminic, this will be my last post in this part of the forum on this subject. One last thing... Quote: i stopped reading here... Capital 'I'... My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;) CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!'
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Grytok I must say, even if I'm not interested in FW at all, that it's a slap in the face for all the RPers in EvE to this date. CVA, PIE, UNITY and many more are getting excluded, or they've to withdraw, what they've built up in the last 5 freakin years. Leaving corp and/or alliance is not an option tbqfh, because we've roles, we cannot withdraw. Directors, Traders, Personal Managers, etc... they simply are not able to leave their current alliance/corp. So Factional Warfare is nice for those not involved in alliances, yeah, great. 75% of the people not involved in alliances don't give a **** about Factional Warfare, because they don't want to PvP and they'll never set a foot into LowSec nor leaving their n00b-Corp, where they're are safer staying in HighSec. So who does join Factional Warfare? Right. Alt-Characters! Great job. why the hate for my FW alt? she's just about to finish up MWD 4 in anticipation of this.
Nuyan Zahedi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:17:00 - [24] PIE won't be excluded. I still think not allowing alliances is a stupid decision and I entirely disagree with the arguments provided by CCP, but there's still plenty of stuff to do for the alliances. Also, I haven't tested this out on SiSi, but I assume you can change standings to a faction, so you can set all the player corporations in faction you hate to red and shoot them all. That's a lot of new targets you can shoot at. It'll be interesting to see how CVA and Providence will adept to that. Personally I'm really looking forward to this expansion and I hope CCP will add to it in the future. -- My blog
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:35:00 - [25] Edited by: Garreck on 03/06/2008 20:37:04 Originally by: Tarminic What?! That's impossible! FW is terrible and there is no one anywhere that's looking forward to it ever! Raarrhahrhahr! tantrum I dunno, some of the skeptics seem justified in their skepticism. The most succinct I've seen so far came from another thread: Originally by: Jakke Logan It's a PVP expansion, that excludes a lot of pvp'ers. It's a RP expansion that basically excludes the roleplayers. It's a PVE expansion that forces you to run around the most dangerous of space flagged on the map, in crappy noob ships (T1 frigs and cruisers). Should be interesting to see if this turns out as badly as some anticipate, as fun as others anticipate, or as functional as CCP seems to hope. If 5 years of Eve-ing has taught me much, it's not to fully cast judgement just yet, but Jakke really summed up why it all looks a bit dodgy just yet.
EvilSpork Invicta.	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:55:00 - [26] Originally by: Major Death Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 20:16:55 Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 20:15:49 One last thing... Quote: i stopped reading here... Capital 'I'... i and I are the same thing save for capitalization. your and you're are two totally different words meaning two totally different things. using proper punctuation and wording is far more important than capitalizing "I". it's a matter of clarity of thoughts vs using "proper" formatting.
Ulstan	Posted - 2008.06.03 20:58:00 - [27] Quote: Nice, except with FW being the offical RP part of the game it freezing the other RP'ers out. RP alliances can a) keep doing whatever they were doing before FW came out b) realize that non sov holding alliances are pointless, and join the appropriate militias as RP corps I don't get all the whining over this. CCP isn't taking anything away from you, they're adding something new in a manner you don't quite like.
Grytok moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.06.03 22:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Faife Originally by: Grytok I must say, even if I'm not interested in FW at all, that it's a slap in the face for all the RPers in EvE to this date. CVA, PIE, UNITY and many more are getting excluded, or they've to withdraw, what they've built up in the last 5 freakin years. Leaving corp and/or alliance is not an option tbqfh, because we've roles, we cannot withdraw. Directors, Traders, Personal Managers, etc... they simply are not able to leave their current alliance/corp. So Factional Warfare is nice for those not involved in alliances, yeah, great. 75% of the people not involved in alliances don't give a **** about Factional Warfare, because they don't want to PvP and they'll never set a foot into LowSec nor leaving their n00b-Corp, where they're are safer staying in HighSec. So who does join Factional Warfare? Right. Alt-Characters! Great job. why the hate for my FW alt? she's just about to finish up MWD 4 in anticipation of this. Most missions will be deadspaces. No MWD there to be activated, sorry .
Zephyr Rengate Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.06.03 22:14:00 - [29] Actualy there will be MWDs. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I habe no life.
Thorradin State War Academy	Posted - 2008.06.03 22:26:00 - [30] Originally by: EvilSpork i and I are the same thing save for capitalization. your and you're are two totally different words meaning two totally different things. using proper punctuation and wording is far more important than capitalizing "I". it's a matter of clarity of thoughts vs using "proper" formatting. You don't get to play Grammar **** and be immune to the same treatment when your mistake is worse, due to the fact that capitalization is not impeded by language barriers like your/you're are. People who aren't fluent in English might misuse your/you're but they'll know you capitalize the first letter in a sentence. Now nit-picking aside, I'm looking forward to trying FW. Yes, it's sad to see alliances can't join since it holds out RP alliances who don't dissolve or otherwise weaken themselves, but alliances have their ups and downs. One of the positives is you can claim sov, work with a group of other corporations, and so on. Not being able to join the 'militia alliance' is, sadly, one of your downsides. However, it's not like you can't enter a FW site, butcher all the opposition, and then have your militia friend claim it while the system is on lock down.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.06.03 23:02:00 - [31] Originally by: Major Death Quote: funny I read that as "More fiction news" Except its just FW fiction news, nice vidoes and stuff, but if your not part of FW, you have no input. 1000 non-FW RPs do RP stuff - Nothing. 100 Alts fart about in FW - Video and major universe shift. what are talking about they have always had RP news, and alliance RP news. now there will be more rp news.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.06.03 23:22:00 - [32] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/06/2008 23:22:32 Originally by: Nuyan Zahedi but I assume you can change standings to a faction, so you can set all the player corporations in faction you hate to red and shoot them all. That's a lot of new targets you can shoot at. I EDIT: think you are wrong. You can only shoot FW participants if you are FW aligned. Otherwise you will recieve the same penalties that ship destruction and pod killing incure. Slade
Oedus Caro Cross Roads Ouroboros Cross Combine	Posted - 2008.06.03 23:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Major Death Quote: i stopped reading here... Capital 'I'... ...all by itself is a fragment. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Bad Harlequin Chiroptera Factor	Posted - 2008.06.03 23:42:00 - [34] Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 03/06/2008 23:43:27 Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/06/2008 23:22:32 Originally by: Nuyan Zahedi but I assume you can change standings to a faction, so you can set all the player corporations in faction you hate to red and shoot them all. That's a lot of new targets you can shoot at. I EDIT: think you are wrong. You can only shoot FW participants if you are FW aligned. Otherwise you will recieve the same penalties that ship destruction and pod killing incurr. Sorta kinda. You can't freefire just anyone anywhere, but i don't think that's what Nuyan meant: just that you can set your standings and red the opposing participants; since much (most? all?) of this will be taking place in lowsec, and not near anything remotely resembling a sentry gun, you may blast whomever you please. This is how RP-aligned Alliance pilots and pewpewpew-aligned Pirate pilots and isk-aligned Merc pilots will all play a factor in FW. And of course you can (assuming you spare the slots and the isk) wardec anyone who supports the Evil Terrible _______ Faction, and opposes your Good True ______ Kitten-Loving Faction. edit: red the oppositing player corps and pilots, i meant. not "the militias" as in the faction itself. you can't dec it, but i would assume you can set it to -10 and see involved parties as [-], yeah? ----- -- we all live in a yellow subroutine --
jna Black Ash Enterprises	Posted - 2008.06.04 21:50:00 - [35] Originally by: EvilSpork your and you're are two totally different words meaning two totally different things. Three totally different words, I think you'll find. ------------------------------------------------- Caeleste naves interretis res gravissimas sunt
Morcam	Posted - 2008.06.04 22:23:00 - [36] Edited by: Morcam on 04/06/2008 22:23:13 This guy hit it on the head. You just simply can't imagine in a video game. You and the "Official Story" are not in the same sandbox. You have your sand, it has it's. Were you saying that RP was awful before this? No, and RP is not changing. You are not getting everything that you want, but does it matter? RP is already based on imagination, rather than actual gameplay elements. If you hate the FW that much, don't do it, or go into individual corps and do it. You have three character slots on the same account, use one for a corp alt.
Raastah Fedajin	Posted - 2008.06.04 23:46:00 - [37] Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 04/06/2008 23:51:55 Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 04/06/2008 23:49:48 Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 04/06/2008 23:49:01 I am playing EVE for some weeks now and I think it is sad what I have to read here. CCP is just doing the right thing here (without knowing if there will be technical problems at the start of FW, of course): New players that are joining a corp are role playing in their small corp world first. Then they maybe join an alliance and their roleplay world increases. But apart from the sandbox way of gameplay there always is the history of EVE. And I never got the point, why Minmatar would give some Armarr soldier one of their faction ships at all. Now there is a basic role play element coming for all players that are not in a roleplaying corp/alliance. But does that take away the roleplaying element from them? NO You can play the same way you did before. But what is roleplaying about if not about adjusting to new elements or storylines. Nobody knows how FW will work. The pirates may be a problem BUT, there will be 1 channel for each faction. So what are we talking about, 10 players fighting in FW for each faction or 50 players, 100 players or 1000 players. I really love to see some pirates faces sitting at a gate gatecamping as suddenly a group of 50-100 Rifters are jumping in. All PVP noobs now leaded by CCP to their first PVP experience. All motivated,brave and wanting to show that the Minmatar will not go back into slavery. And as this group of guys is down to 30 ships suddenly 10 Tech II fitted BS of a Minmatar alliance jump in to help their brothers make it to the mission complex. Is this alliance playing FW? Yes! Do the have to leave the alliance? No! Is it roleplaying? Yes? Think about the impact that a big alliance taking part in helping one of the races has on the other races and other alliances. There are rankings showing the best FW pilots. There will be fights to make them join alliances, some fighters will open own corps, schools, alliances whatever. You guys playing the game for years can make the difference in FW and use the fresh wind FW brings to change the (roleplay) future of EVE. Or you can sit in your alliance channel ranting :"They are changing the game and I wanted to play it without adapting for the next years..buhuuu!" Whenever I as a beginner asked about a story I was told by the roleplayers that all I should do is create my own story, my own world. And right now you (same) guys want to tell me you cannot create your story around FW? (if you like to-you don¦t have to. But if you don¦t want to, why complain at all??) Come on--try harder!! Fly safe!
Masu'di Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.06.05 00:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Eddie Gordo Originally by: EvilSpork Originally by: Major Death Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05 So your looking at this problem you meant to say "so YOU ARE LOOKING." my blood started boiling round about here... Not everyone is English on these forums and many of them do well just to get their point accross. Kakosgrammatikiphobia is a serious and debilitating condition for thousands of people around the world. It can have detrimental affects to a sufferers relations with their friends, family and loved ones. Many people with Kakosgrammatikiphobia find they are unable to work, due to their social failings and awkwardness. That guy needs our help and support, I hope you can calm your anger down, and emphasise with his situation.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.06.05 00:24:00 - [39] Originally by: Masu'di Originally by: Eddie Gordo Originally by: EvilSpork Originally by: Major Death Edited by: Major Death on 03/06/2008 18:34:05 So your looking at this problem you meant to say "so YOU ARE LOOKING." my blood started boiling round about here... Not everyone is English on these forums and many of them do well just to get their point accross. Kakosgrammatikiphobia is a serious and debilitating condition for thousands of people around the world. It can have detrimental affects to a sufferers relations with their friends, family and loved ones. Many people with Kakosgrammatikiphobia find they are unable to work, due to their social failings and awkwardness. That guy needs our help and support, I hope you can calm your anger down, and emphasise with his situation. Why, that's not a real word! And you left out an and near the end! And the spelling! It's emphasize! ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Falcon Troy Awesome People Secret Corp	Posted - 2008.06.05 00:53:00 - [40] Originally by: Jakke Logan Yeah, this expansion is "FAIL" all around. CCP is arrogantly NOT listening to ANYONE, they are all about GET IT OUT, GET IT OUT NOW! Hopefully they learn the right lesson from this. LISTEN to the players. WE after all own this game, not CCP. No player=no subs=no money=no booze and hookers. That's the fact of life. SOE failed to learn it. Will CCP? Than quit if you hate the game so much? Apparently you think CCP will give a rat's ass about your sub but they won't. They have thousands of happy subscribers who love this game. Maybe you should look at whose really being arrogant here. CCP doesn't owe RP alliances anything. _____________ Hai.
Lord Fitz Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.05 01:30:00 - [41] Originally by: Grytok Most missions will be deadspaces. No MWD there to be activated, sorry MWD's can be used in FW deadspace. ;)
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Ixion Defence Systems Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.06.05 02:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Grytok Most missions will be deadspaces. No MWD there to be activated, sorry I guess you missed the dev blog saying that in these specific deadspaces MWD usage is enabled. As for the RP alliances getting the shaft... Well nothing in this world is perfect and we all had to make a choice. Instead of crying about the choice, it might be better to go on and take the choice. It might not be an easy one, but after all what all RP entities wanted when the alliances were created was to provide a big militia for their faction. CCP just created a different tool for that (Militias). If you don't like it don't join. There is a word called cooperation. Cooperate with the militia members and help them complete the objectives. There are many things that can be done. Also don't forget that CCP didn't exclude alliances from FW for ever. They just want to see how it will go and will act accordingly. We as Role players (who have been waiting for such a long time for this) should support it, instead of bashing it. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Ixion Defence Systems Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.06.05 02:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Masu'di Kakosgrammatikiphobia ..... Kakosgrammatikiphobia That guy needs our help and support, I hope you can calm your anger down, and emphasise with his situation. Aman re atheofove :) Take out the "s" at least ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Masu'di Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.06.05 17:38:00 - [44] Edited by: Masu''di on 05/06/2008 17:38:45 Originally by: Tarminic It's emphasize! Opening up that can of worms are we?
Terminus adacai	Posted - 2008.06.06 01:24:00 - [45] I don't understand why alliances can't just create a corp outside of the alliance and let who wants to take part in FW join said corp? Is it that hard? Alliances have plenty of pvp available and better rewards. it has already been stated that reward for FW will be low at first til they get a feel for how it is going to work out. I just fail to see what all the complaints are about. Keep your alliance intact, and let whomever wants to go FW can. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Spineker	Posted - 2008.06.06 01:33:00 - [46] I just want some freaking sharks with freaking laser beams on their head! Is that too much to ask for?
Novemb3r Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.06.06 01:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Jakke Logan WE after all own this game, not CCP. Players rent the game from CCP. CCP own it and can do whatever the please. The only thing paying your sub gives you is the ability to connect and play the game. Don't like it, don't pay. -

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