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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.05 13:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Damned Force
Im flying this ships in fleets and in small gangs too.
I was hoping to see the setup of this fine ship used by such an awesome and skillfull pilot as you are, good sir. I was hoping to see countless fleet battles where you, good sir, dampened the hell out of those pesky snipers. To my greatest surprise and disappointment (well not really) internet has no history regarding pilot known as "Damned Force".
Why is that, the questioning soul such as myself, may ask? Perhaps a skillfull pilot such as you are is hiding behind an alt? Why? The only logical answer that comes to mind is that you, good sir, is a liar.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.05 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Birkinz
As you are all well aware, damps are not chance based and so the ability to completely disable almost any ships offence indefinately whilst tackling from outside their lock range is pretty powerful.
Here is another example of clueless theorist. Have you ever flown Arazu? Do you have any experience with it after nerf? Your arguments based on what? Righ click - show ship property - alt+tab - click post button?
May we ask to stay theorists and people who like to argue simply for the sake of it to stay out of the discussion?
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.05 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Kirja on 05/06/2008 18:54:15
Originally by: Birkinz
Damps were then deliberately nerfed to bring them into line with ECM i.e slightly less powerful but still highly effective on a dedicated ship.
Come back when you flown highly effective dedicated ship that is Arazu for 100+ hours. Then your opinion will matter.
Go ask any experienced FC what will they prefer in a standard gang Falcon or Arazu.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
If you insist that the more a ship is used, the better it must be, do you then agree that the raven is the best battelship out there ?
You logic is flawed. I used killboards of experienced PvP entities for a reason. Go on and check which BSs are used by those entities in fleet operations. Ravens will be far behind Minmatar, Amarr and Gallente.
In other word belt ganked Raven losses has nothing to do with PvP
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Birkinz
Your argument that only people that have flown 100 hours + in an Arazu can post is absurd. It would hardly make for a balanced discussion to have only Arazu fanboys posting.
Your posts about killboards are simply bizarre.
The only argument that i used is that only people with experience flying any particular ship can discuss whether this ship is fine or not. Unless you have practical experience all you pretty theories are just that... your pretty yet empty theories.
I can fly caldari and gallente recons on my main and minmatar on my alt. So there is little point to bring "fanboy" word into discussion.
You try to imagine some abstract fairy tale situation where Arazu is a worthy ship to fly. Well i agree that such fairy tale situation may exists. But in reality gallente recons have no role where they excel. Disruptor range bonus is obsolete in the age of inties going 7k+ that have the very same bonus as Arazu doesa and im not even talking about dictors and heavy dictors that will be more welcomed than Arazu in any gang.
Dampening bonus is useless as well... I am not going to bother bring any math to you as there is a huge amount of deep, well constructed posts on this topic already.
To finish with this useless discussion... Arazu or Lachesis were never overpowered, they were fine specialized ships with a distinctive flavor. But thanks to the whines of fairy tale theorists like yourself who have never flown it they were nerfed into oblivion.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Birkinz
I suggest you go back to those killboards that you are so fond of where I am sure you will be able to reports that noone ever kills anything in an Arazu.
I suggest you go back to those killboards that im so fond off and compare kill participations made by Rapiers and Falcons vs kill participation made by Arazus. And make some logical conclusions in your head.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.07 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zarstrax
Lol you guys are nubs. The arazu will pwn a falcon, damp it down and make it completely useless!!!! Arazu is fine i mean a falcon can't stop another falcon jamming while being useful at the same time by jamming other stuff at the same time can it?
Post with your main or stfu? Or are we going to get another "I dont want to show my main because you will copy my uber arazu setup"?
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kirja on 08/06/2008 10:20:56
Originally by: Ynos Fukse
your post is carp.
Your ability to make logical assumptions and conclusions is crap. There is a correlation between losses in certain ship class and how often it is used in combat. The more often it is used the more often it will be lost.
What you want to say that Arazus are not killed as often as Rapiers because they are so much better and survive more easily. Well that is crap. Go ahead and study statistics. I am not going to do your homework. You may start doing your homework by checking AAA killboard for example (simply because they have an aggregate "ships flown" statistics). Rapiers, Huggins and falcons are all in TOP 10 ship flown. Arazu is faaar behind that.
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