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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:09:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Mnement'h
Since I don't have leadership access but my personal info was dumped on the net let me ask you this ... where is his proof that what he claims is true ? ... from myh perspecitve all I can see is he dumped 100+ ppl's info onto the open net cause he is ****ed ? There just is no excuse for that ...
anyways you know the rules of the game ... you leave a corp / alliance your access gets cut immediately ... on all fronts ... we don't all go emo about it and start sharing other ppl's info to vent ... especially not if we are the ones claiming to have a good, reliable hosting service ...
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Internet spaceships are serious business I hear.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Mnement'h
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:15:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
OMG swearwords from a troll ... I'm so offended now ... go hack a forum or something ...
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:16:00 -
[64]
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:19:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Mnement'h
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
Are you a fool? Better hope one person in your alliance doesn't upset him.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:23:00 -
[66]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:23:00 -
[67]
Ive been in and out of Tri several times, and always kept running their stuff - and this is the first time ive ever done anything like this - so.. meh :\
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:25:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
At some point I tought this might not have been a trolling session but it went that way ...
this is an out of game occurance ... he posted PERSONAL INFO on the net ... has nothing to do with the alliance or the game ... or who leads whome and how ...
btw. there is an explanation from leadership in the other thread so read it ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:29:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
Wonder who's alt you might be. 
So you're saying that an impartial servie provider should publish people email addresses and hashed passwords at whim? And that is ok. Well fair enough you ahve that opinion. Anyone who is deciding to use this service has to bear this in mind, especially as it's by his own admission.
"i updated the post with a better bagground story, and i agree the sql release thingy was prolly not the smartest move"
You takes your money and you makes your choice......
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:30:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
At some point I tought this might not have been a trolling session but it went that way ...
this is an out of game occurance ... he posted PERSONAL INFO on the net ... has nothing to do with the alliance or the game ... or who leads whome and how ...
btw. there is an explanation from leadership in the other thread so read it ...
Not like emails are hard to obtain anyway.
[email protected]
[email protected]
Want more? :P
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:31:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
At some point I tought this might not have been a trolling session but it went that way ...
this is an out of game occurance ... he posted PERSONAL INFO on the net ... has nothing to do with the alliance or the game ... or who leads whome and how ...
btw. there is an explanation from leadership in the other thread so read it ...
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:35:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
Wonder who's alt you might be.
So you're saying that an impartial servie provider should publish people email addresses and hashed passwords at whim? And that is ok. Well fair enough you ahve that opinion. Anyone who is deciding to use this service has to bear this in mind, especially as it's by his own admission.
"i updated the post with a better bagground story, and i agree the sql release thingy was prolly not the smartest move"
You takes your money and you makes your choice......
I lol'd. To narcissistic to be an alt, and please, if you require proof, SHC is all you need.
You waived your right to privacy when you registered on his server. You consented to give him your passwords, and if you use the same passwords for everything then that's your own damn fault. He released the dump because you treated him like shit, even though he put himself out of pocket to assist you. Who's the bastard again?
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:40:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
Actually I did nothing, but this person betrayed my personal trust and his tatement of protecting my privacy on the site and published the email address I'd used on there and the has of the password I used.
Now if he was upset with RQM he could discontinue the service, no one would be upset by that at all, what we're upset about is that he published our personal information in SHC IRC, including possibly the TRI peple who are here defending him as well.
You think that is how a service provider is supposed to behave?
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:41:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
this was a long post but in the end I cut it back because you'll keep trolling no matter how much proof you are provided with ...
please continue trolling and I;ll continue telling ppl just how screwed they will be one day when emokid here decides their alliance killed his favorite ship ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:49:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
this was a long post but in the end I cut it back because you'll keep trolling no matter how much proof you are provided with ...
please continue trolling and I;ll continue telling ppl just how screwed they will be one day when emokid here decides their alliance killed his favorite ship ...
Aye, I'm definitely trolling. Let's not even remember that you still haven't provided any evidence to the contrary, and given BDCI's track record, people are more likely to believe Karbo unless you can provide substantial evidence to the contrary.
Funny how anyone who doesn't agree is a troll :/
Originally by: "Hans Roaming"
Actually I did nothing, but this person betrayed my personal trust and his tatement of protecting my privacy on the site and published the email address I'd used on there and the has of the password I used.
Now if he was upset with RQM he could discontinue the service, no one would be upset by that at all, what we're upset about is that he published our personal information in SHC IRC, including possibly the TRI peple who are here defending him as well.
You think that is how a service provider is supposed to behave?
In that situation? No, but he's already admitted that in hindsight it wasn't a good idea. That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:54:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
[That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
Actually I didn't treat him like shit, I agreed to his terms of service and because someone in my alliance upset him he published my personal information in public contrary to those terms as opposed to just shutting the service down which I'd totally agree he his entitled to do and would not have any complaint about.
If you peronally are happy with this service then go ahead, just hope no one in your alliance or corp ban him from your IRC channels.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:57:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
[That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
Actually I didn't treat him like shit, I agreed to his terms of service and because someone in my alliance upset him he published my personal information in public contrary to those terms as opposed to just shutting the service down which I'd totally agree he his entitled to do and would not have any complaint about.
If you peronally are happy with this service then go ahead, just hope no one in your alliance or corp ban him from your IRC channels.
We ban him all the time. It's all cool. Looks like you did something wrong.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:58:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
OMG swearwords from a troll ... I'm so offended now ... go hack a forum or something ...
p i s s is the same word you used a post earlier.
Also, I don't need to hack a forum, I can get SQL dumps for free.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:04:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
[That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
Actually I didn't treat him like shit, I agreed to his terms of service and because someone in my alliance upset him he published my personal information in public contrary to those terms as opposed to just shutting the service down which I'd totally agree he his entitled to do and would not have any complaint about.
If you peronally are happy with this service then go ahead, just hope no one in your alliance or corp ban him from your IRC channels.
We ban him all the time. It's all cool. Looks like you did something wrong.
Yeah I guess I did when registering on the forums and believing the terms of service that he published.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:05:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
To quote the forum registration "As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
What exactly did I bring upon myself?
Where did I consent to having email and #password released to the public?
What does this have to do with myself and hundreds of other folks who just play EvE for fun and don't induldge in metagaming asshattery, stupid forum smack, and the other bullshit rampant in this game?
This has zero to do with EvE/alliance-corp affiliations etc. Its a violation of privacy and the board owner's stated terms of registration. It was an action completely uncalled for and should have been settled privately rather than in this fashion.
Despicable.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:06:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
OMG swearwords from a troll ... I'm so offended now ... go hack a forum or something ...
p i s s is the same word you used a post earlier.
I as referring to the namecalling, hence the plural, but hey I can be more specific next time and spell it out for you so you can understand it ...
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Also, I don't need to hack a forum, I can get SQL dumps for free.
try getting some fresh ones cause the ones he dumped were from before his forums were deemed unsecure and therefor exchaged for new ones ... which is why he was p i s s ed over to begin with ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:13:00 -
[82]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
This has zero to do with EvE.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure there's also a clause in the T&C there that the hoster reserves the right to change/void the rights of any user at any time. It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:18:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
In the forum thread advertising his OOG services?
We're just former customers sharing our experience in here.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
This has zero to do with EvE.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure there's also a clause in the T&C there that the hoster reserves the right to change/void the rights of any user at any time. It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
try and screw over a customer on ebay ... see the reviews you get ... same thing here ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Trigger64
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:19:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
betrayed my [...] trust
Quoting irony
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:24:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
In the forum thread advertising his OOG services?
We're just former customers sharing our experience in here.
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
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Da'Neth
Gallente
Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:26:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
In the forum thread advertising his OOG services?
We're just former customers sharing our experience in here.
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
this TBH besides I have not had any truble with karbo and helps me when thar is a problem. A+++++
Join ZOCOM / useful info IGB |
Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:32:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Mnement''h on 11/07/2008 00:33:32
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
what do you mean it doesn't work ? ... by your logic if you are not happy with a service and you terminate it then you can't complain about it ?
... anyways off to bed ... there's a troll a post above you so you can continue the pointless blameshifting with him ...
bottom line is this service isn't trustworthy ... and it never again will be ... you only screw up trust once ...
cya ...
edit: funny how all the ppl justifying his actions in both the threads are from the same corp ... :P ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:34:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
This has zero to do with EvE.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure there's also a clause in the T&C there that the hoster reserves the right to change/void the rights of any user at any time. It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
"Pretty sure" is meaningless. And sure can't check it now eh?
And what else does one do? Report the individual concerned to his ISP? Yeah right....I'm sure he is losing sleep over that  .
With no further recourse I have EVERY right bring my complaints regarding his service and violation of trust right here. In public.
An apology to the hundreds of pilots dragged into the individual's game of EGO-online would be a start.
And as for your commentary re:OOG to forums...that cat is well out of the bag in CAOD-cesspool.
Out-of-context quoting=fail btw.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:35:00 -
[90]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
To quote the forum registration "As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
When you enter information on the internet you consent to it being disclosed to anyone.
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