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Karbowiak
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:22:00 -
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Hello.
All killboards purchased through me is free of charge, all that i ask for is that the persons having the killboard û use the GTC links. Since the whole premise of this service is based around those links.
Once CCP removes the 30d and 90d GTCs, this service will be threatened û but even then i hope enough people will use the 60d GTCs so this amazing service can continue to run.
But, enough crap û to what i have to offer!
 Here is the offer:
Reliable service
Reliable seller
Free subdomain (ticker.killmail.org - thanks to bunjiboys)
Possibility to get own domain name (.dk/.com/.org/.net/.info 500m a year, killboard will still be free however, the 500m fee is only to cover for my own real life expence)
Dedicated Server
Full Admin over your Killboard/TS/Forum
No bandwidth restrictions
If you need a webpage i do not offer, please contact me to hear if i can set it up.
FTP/SQL Access delivered if needed/wanted
Killboard Features
Memcached (making the board run faster and the server have less overall load)
Shared codebase, 10 times easier to do updates and changes (And also ALOT faster)
Lots more styles and mods - all installed and optimized by yours truly
Still EDK, but heavily modified
Most stuff running on our boards, aren't available on other boards (Not in the form used on our boards anyway)
Teamspeak Features
Teamspeak Admin panel (Where its possible to see IP of the persons logged in - and also clear the full userdatabase with one click)
MySQL Based
BNC Information
Connect to any IRC server you wish.
Trust on Quakenet and Coldfront
Vhosts Available (bnc.karbowiak.dk bnc.dozer.dk bnc.triumvirate-alliance.com bnc.thorstensen.info - bnc.killmail.org comming soon)
Server information:
Ronon is hosted by Sentris in the US.
Ronon is a 4core Phenom with 4GB Ram
Ronon is running on a 100/100Mbit Connection
Ronon is the servers name (i like Stargate Atlantis :P)
More specific info on the server are available if you wish
Install Fees:
Install fee for TS/KB/Forum: 10m isk
Install fee for banners: free
Service fees: free
Cronjob (API/FeedSyndication: free
Killboard/Forum subscribtion fees:
Corp: 1 month: free
Alliance: 1 month: free
Both corp and alliance will however, have to look at the GTC links û and if possible, use them aswell.
BNC subscribtion fees:
Pr. Slot pr. Month: 5m isk
If corp/alliance wants own domain name, deal can be made for own BNC server with trust.
TS subscription fees:
pr. slot: 1m isk
Demo:
Killboard: http://killboard.karbowiak.dk adminpass: test (its running the shared codebase)
Forum: http://triumvirate-alliance.com/forum/ (Forum installation is up to one self, FTP info etc. will be given in this case.)
TS: ip: ronon.karbowiak.dk:9000 pass: test
-> TS Admin Panel: http://ts.killmail.org/index.php
-> username: test password: test
Contact:
If there are any questions, feel free to evemail me ingame, contact me on email or goto the forum
Nick: Karbowiak (both ingame and on IRC)
eMail: [email protected]
IRC Channel: #killmail.org
Forum: http://forum.anoint.dk (under the Killmail.org part)
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Karbowiak
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Karbowiak on 04/06/2008 00:24:29
Everyone who bought a killboard, and paid for more than 1 month may contact me ingame or here, to get a refund.
TS/BNC prices are still the same, only change is that the killboard is now free
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Karbowiak
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:23:00 -
[3]
reserved
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:41:00 -
[4]
Reliable service, great guy running it. Recommend this to anyone in need of his services.
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Shigsy
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 00:45:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Reliable service, great guy running it. Recommend this to anyone in need of his services.
Seconding this. He puts up with me even tho i constantly manage to break things! <3
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Karbowiak
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:57:00 -
[6]
bumpers!
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Jogvan
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.06.05 01:22:00 -
[7]
Great service, karb being very helpful as always :)
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Karbowiak
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:37:00 -
[8]
Edited by: Karbowiak on 05/06/2008 15:36:56
bump
And thanks to all of you who have posted back sofar 
Killboards are free of charge for everyone, and im very helpfull in transfering kills from whatever board you have been using prior (EXCEPT GRIEFWATCH, I HATE GRIEFWATCH!  )
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Karbowiak
Anoint
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Posted - 2008.06.06 10:27:00 -
[9]
another day, another bump :)
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Karbowiak
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 23:53:00 -
[10]
i vote that this goes to the top again, just - because :P
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command
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Posted - 2008.06.06 23:58:00 -
[11]
Wait what? DO WANT!
Will drop a mail.
Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected] |
Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:02:00 -
[12]
bump to the top yet again !
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Truis
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:36:00 -
[13]
are any of my eve mails getting through?
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:15:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Truis
are any of my eve mails getting through?
Very sorry m8, ive been very busy with real life and such, so ive forgotten all about you - i will get the board fixed today and evemail you all the information asap :)
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Truis
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:42:00 -
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np bro. I've had problems here lately with my eve mails going through. Not in any hurry. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't having eve mail issues again. |
Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 00:59:00 -
[16]
All boards has been enabled to take the new mail form.
I still have not added the faction stuff to the killboards - i will however make it so you can set the killboard up to be faction or non-faction (ie. if your corp/alliance doesn't want anything to do with faction warfare, they can simply turn it off - so it wont be shown on the board)
However, im still waiting for the new data dump so i can update all the boards with this new information.
AND!
im contemplating moving _ALL_ the boards to the same database, so it makes updates easier for me, myself and irene.
However, more about that at a later time :)
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Pegas
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:40:00 -
[17]
Great service and very nice guy running it. I recommend it to anyone in need of a fast and reliable killboard. |
Boci
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:46:00 -
[18]
I'm looking forward to using your board Karbo, the Tri & D00M. boards were sexayy |
Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:58:00 -
[19]
mail sent |
Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:18:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Avaricia
mail sent
and an hour later i have a fully funtional eve-dev killboard. ******* awesome service, i'll pretend to go buy some gtc's to offset the load of me failing at importing mails lol
reign of terror
griefmatic |
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:27:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Avaricia
Originally by: Avaricia
mail sent
and an hour later i have a fully funtional eve-dev killboard. ******* awesome service, i'll pretend to go buy some gtc's to offset the load of me failing at importing mails lol
Glad you like the service :)
Others are welcome to join in on this offer - the more people who use the GTC links, the higher the chances are of this service will continue to run :)
I am in talks with several killboard designers and coders at the moment, about getting more boards to offer - than the EDK board, all i can say is. The future sofar looks promising ;)
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Sekh Ondaari
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Posted - 2008.06.12 15:15:00 -
[22]
Expect a mail incoming. =)
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.14 21:09:00 -
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BUMPERS! 
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Weasle Breath
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:47:00 -
[24]
Edited by: Weasle Breath on 14/06/2008 22:50:32
thanks for ripping Demonic Retribution's killboard theme on this killboard: http://killboard.karbowiak.dk/
here is what the killboard theme looks like: http://kb.3rd-echelon.com/?a=home
I like how you blacked out our corp logo on the fitting panel :)
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Waffle Forge
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:19:00 -
[25]
haha.. thats funny...
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OctavianS
Demonic Retribution
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:52:00 -
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I too am selling a compuer opperating system called "Bindows Vista" it looks much like windows vista and uses same code, but has "Bindows Vista" on the wellcome screen.
I am so awsome i am sure no one will ever notice i stole someone elses creative work.
Convo me in game, I will give you a great deal.
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MrCranberry
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:59:00 -
[27]
Edited by: MrCranberry on 14/06/2008 23:59:20
oO rabbits
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Paddy Guiness
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Posted - 2008.06.15 00:03:00 -
[28]
Ahhh wahh wahhhhh he got my kILL BOARD... Learn type maybe woot woot wooot
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OctavianS
Demonic Retribution
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.15 00:11:00 -
[29]
Edited by: OctavianS on 15/06/2008 00:11:26
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.15 00:53:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Weasle Breath
Edited by: Weasle Breath on 14/06/2008 22:50:32
thanks for ripping Demonic Retribution's killboard theme on this killboard: http://killboard.karbowiak.dk/
here is what the killboard theme looks like: http://kb.3rd-echelon.com/?a=home
I like how you blacked out our corp logo on the fitting panel :)
I Evemailed you and asked for permission, which you gave me - must have sent the mail to the wrong person then  .
Anyway if you want i can remove the theme from the killboard.
As to the rest of you, thanks for the bumps and no gtfo because of the spam 
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Nemeziskee
Nefantar Tribe
The Wrong Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.15 19:17:00 -
[31]
Fast service, fast killboard, friendly help!
Thank you!
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:32:00 -
[32]
Up to the top.
All boards are running R327 (all boards are using the same code, so yay?)
And i just finished the merging og databases ( still minor jobs to work out but ok ) - and the Black Rise sql data has been added.
The new ships are still missing, but that'll be fixed as soon as CCP decides to release the new data dump.
Other than that, its free as always :)
And no, there are no hidden stuff - and no downsides, its all running perfectly fine.
Just use the GTC links to keep it up and running :)
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Synapse Archae
Demonic Retribution
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:22:00 -
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I got a copy of Bindows Vista, and it doesn run well with Karbo's killboards...maybe because it can't display colors so high on the completely objective "awsome scale."
Karbo, how long until your killboards are Bindows compatable? I want awsome stolen themes but Bindows just can't display their awsomeness!
- - - Originally by: CCP Garthagk
While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.16 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse Archae
I got a copy of Bindows Vista, and it doesn run well with Karbo's killboards...maybe because it can't display colors so high on the completely objective "awsome scale."
Karbo, how long until your killboards are Bindows compatable? I want awsome stolen themes but Bindows just can't display their awsomeness!
So you think that spamming in my sales thread, stating that i stole a theme (which i THOUGHT i had gotten the rights to use) is gonna stop people from using my boards ?..
Ive already talked with the guy who made the theme about it, so i dont see the reason for this continued spam - if it continues i will petition however - so have a great day
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OctavianS
Demonic Retribution
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.16 21:42:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Karbowiak
Originally by: Synapse Archae
I got a copy of Bindows Vista, and it doesn run well with Karbo's killboards...maybe because it can't display colors so high on the completely objective "awsome scale."
Karbo, how long until your killboards are Bindows compatable? I want awsome stolen themes but Bindows just can't display their awsomeness!
So you think that spamming in my sales thread, stating that i stole a theme (which i THOUGHT i had gotten the rights to use) is gonna stop people from using my boards ?..
Ive already talked with the guy who made the theme about it, so i dont see the reason for this continued spam - if it continues i will petition however - so have a great day
This is a Bindos problem not a Karbo one. My good buddy Bill Gates who has given me writen permision to ripp off windows vista in a mail "which i belive was repplied by him", has told me that more patches are coming out soon to solve vista compatibility problems.
Bindows stands by its reputation for great marketing and i can have many friends post on this thread as to its quality of service and prompt solutions.
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.17 06:47:00 -
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Cleaned.
Please note the sales forums are not discussion forums, please take this elsewhere.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
Email / Netfang |
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Karbowiak
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:08:00 -
[37]
Thanks Mitnal, and bump :D
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SpankMeHard
East Jabip Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.18 16:11:00 -
[38]
Can you set up a killboard for my corp please.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 09:50:00 -
[39]
Server got reinstalled, and thus all boards was "lost"..
I will begin the slow procedure of fixing all the boards today and getting them up again, but with close to 90 killboards - its gonna take a while.
So everyone, be patient :)
i will reopen signups again soon(tm)
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:17:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 10/07/2008 22:25:04
The trouble is, if he is not in your alliance and you ban him from your IRC, you get this as your homepage and all your email addresses + passwords posted to SHC IRC
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i hope you are all so fkin happy..
Your leaders just ****ed you over yet again, thanks to Seleene.
I (Karbowiak) just deleted your KB, and all DNS delegations.
have fun you ****ing idiots, hope you all die in a fire !
Full story.
Kai contacts me about hosting TS, KB and Forum for The REquiem
i accept eventho im in X13, but the Tri corps know me and everyone is happy
BDCI comes along and requires power - all they are doing is wanting more and more power.
They finaly get power of the forum, and want more - and want the KB aswell (and IRC - just ask Dakisha)
And now Seleene decided i should be banned from the IRC channel, eventho i still control the KB and domain
But, thanks to Seleene, i just deleted it all except requiem-alliance.com
I tried to negotiate about selling the domain to the alliance, but they would rather ban me because i "demanded" money for it (i DID pay real life money for it myself)
The Requiem, take a look at what BDCI is doing, and then think back on Daisho. seeing any similarities?
MCv2 ?
Thats all, again hope you all die in a fire.
//Karb
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While it's still up have a look at http://requiem-alliance.org/.
So decide what you want to do.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Phoenus
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:28:00 -
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F- Service. Would not deal with him again.
Prone to giving out personal information of your forum users.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:41:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Phoenus
F- Service. Would not deal with him again.
Prone to giving out personal information of your forum users.
Look ma! A troll!
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Antithysis
Gallente
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:41:00 -
[43]
ALL ABOARD THE BITTER BUS TO LEMON TOWN.
Furthermore, perhaps you shouldn't have ****ed him off.
-Anti
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:42:00 -
[44]
A+ service, would use again (and am using currently).
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Kery Syander
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:42:00 -
[45]
<3 Karb. Excellent service. Accepts payments in the form of sexual favors...
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Ancorehraq sis
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:43:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Phoenus
F- Service. Would not deal with him again.
Prone to giving out personal information of your forum users.
Hey, at least it was free.
Wait, don't you have to give someone money to expect service from them?
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Serilla
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:44:00 -
[47]
A+ he also listens to suggestions for improvements 
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Kery Syander
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:45:00 -
[48]
suggestion to the trolls (the lolrequim):
don't **** off the people who are providing you a free service out of the kindness of their heart. Acting childish when they make reasonable demands might get them to act on their anger.
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Kyguard
Game-Over
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:45:00 -
[49]
Bad service.
He knows his stuff regarding hosting, general knowledge, and working his way around problems that arise , but the positive things end there.
He is a complete control freak that has a hard time listening to what his clients want him to do. He'll often make changes that he feels are right without consulting with his clients. Don't expect much freedom if you choose this service.
Added to this is the fact that this admin cannot guarantee to leave an arrangement between himself and client on good terms. After he was asked to terminate his services for RQM and leave alliance-only irc, he proceeded to delete both the killboard, the forums and dump all the forum info (e-mails, passwords, private information) onto a public IRC.
I do not recommend this service to anybody that wishes to have a smooth transaction and likewise service.
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Denton Farrow
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Denton Farrow on 10/07/2008 22:48:14
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:48:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Denton Farrow
Edited by: Denton Farrow on 10/07/2008 22:46:29
Hey if he want to go and share personal information that was given to him in confidence then he will not mind anyone sharing his will he http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=requiem-alliance.org
lol, like thats hard :P
you could also just look up karbowiak.dk or anything else.
Hell i actually let my public info on karbowiak.dk (when its up) like name, adress etc. Like i got something to hide.
And stop spamming my sales thread you epic *****s
/me calls up the mod
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Rastadeen
Minmatar
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:48:00 -
[52]
Wellfare monkey needs a free banana asap
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:49:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Kyguard
Bad service.
He knows his stuff regarding hosting, general knowledge, and working his way around problems that arise , but the positive things end there.
He is a complete control freak that has a hard time listening to what his clients want him to do. He'll often make changes that he feels are right without consulting with his clients. Don't expect much freedom if you choose this service.
Added to this is the fact that this admin cannot guarantee to leave an arrangement between himself and client on good terms. After he was asked to terminate his services for RQM and leave alliance-only irc, he proceeded to delete both the killboard, the forums and dump all the forum info (e-mails, passwords, private information) onto a public IRC.
I do not recommend this service to anybody that wishes to have a smooth transaction and likewise service.
Proof please.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:56:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Mnement''h on 10/07/2008 22:59:01
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Proof please.
the other thread about him
there ya go ... straight from the man who did it ... and is claiming not to do it again ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Biz Markie
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Posted - 2008.07.10 22:58:00 -
[55]
He chose to get upset that an alliance he chose to leave, did not want him to continue to have access to their irc etc. Heaven forbid we try to maintain some security.
Plain and simple, he chose to be petty, divulged personal email addresses and passwords and deleted kb information. It really doesn't matter what lead to it, his behavious is unprofessional and that is all there is to it.
Typical emo reaction from him imo. Not surprised, don't care that much. But it's only fair the rest of his customer base are informed.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:00:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Proof please.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=819692&page=2#39
there ya go ... straight from the man who did it ... and is claiming not to do it again ...
Let me be more specific. Provide the IRC logs. So far you've given bugger all proof that he was asked to cease the hosting arrangements and leave the IRC server.
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Eleese
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:04:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Proof please.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=819692&page=2#39
there ya go ... straight from the man who did it ... and is claiming not to do it again ...
Let me be more specific. Provide the IRC logs. So far you've given bugger all proof that he was asked to cease the hosting arrangements and leave the IRC server.
Just going on his story alone(which is purely from his view point..ie bias'd)..you think being banned from an irc channel by 1 person...warrants him publishing 100's of peoples personal information in public?
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Antithysis
Gallente
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:05:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Eleese
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Proof please.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=819692&page=2#39
there ya go ... straight from the man who did it ... and is claiming not to do it again ...
Let me be more specific. Provide the IRC logs. So far you've given bugger all proof that he was asked to cease the hosting arrangements and leave the IRC server.
Just going on his story alone(which is purely from his view point..ie bias'd)..you think being banned from an irc channel by 1 person...warrants him publishing 100's of peoples personal information in public?
When he's banned without warning? Sure why not.
-Anti
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:06:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Eleese
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Proof please.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=819692&page=2#39
there ya go ... straight from the man who did it ... and is claiming not to do it again ...
Let me be more specific. Provide the IRC logs. So far you've given bugger all proof that he was asked to cease the hosting arrangements and leave the IRC server.
Just going on his story alone(which is purely from his view point..ie bias'd)..you think being banned from an irc channel by 1 person...warrants him publishing 100's of peoples personal information in public?
So let's not go on the story alone. You've got nothing to lose if Seleene really did what you are all saying he did.
Oh, and for the record, I'd do exactly the same thing. Eye for an eye.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:07:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Proof please.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=819692&page=2#39
there ya go ... straight from the man who did it ... and is claiming not to do it again ...
Let me be more specific. Provide the IRC logs. So far you've given bugger all proof that he was asked to cease the hosting arrangements and leave the IRC server.
Since I don't have leadership access but my personal info was dumped on the net let me ask you this ... where is his proof that what he claims is true ? ... from myh perspecitve all I can see is he dumped 100+ ppl's info onto the open net cause he is ****ed ? There just is no excuse for that ...
anyways you know the rules of the game ... you leave a corp / alliance your access gets cut immediately ... on all fronts ... we don't all go emo about it and start sharing other ppl's info to vent ... especially not if we are the ones claiming to have a good, reliable hosting service ...
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:09:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Since I don't have leadership access but my personal info was dumped on the net let me ask you this ... where is his proof that what he claims is true ? ... from myh perspecitve all I can see is he dumped 100+ ppl's info onto the open net cause he is ****ed ? There just is no excuse for that ...
anyways you know the rules of the game ... you leave a corp / alliance your access gets cut immediately ... on all fronts ... we don't all go emo about it and start sharing other ppl's info to vent ... especially not if we are the ones claiming to have a good, reliable hosting service ...
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Internet spaceships are serious business I hear.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Mnement'h
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:15:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
OMG swearwords from a troll ... I'm so offended now ... go hack a forum or something ...
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:16:00 -
[64]
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:19:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Mnement'h
imagine that you **** a bank clerk off in RL and he just dumps all your account info and all your personal info onto his blog ? ... would he in any way be justified even if you told him you don't want to use his bank's services any more ?
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
Are you a fool? Better hope one person in your alliance doesn't upset him.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:23:00 -
[66]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:23:00 -
[67]
Ive been in and out of Tri several times, and always kept running their stuff - and this is the first time ive ever done anything like this - so.. meh :\
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:25:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
At some point I tought this might not have been a trolling session but it went that way ...
this is an out of game occurance ... he posted PERSONAL INFO on the net ... has nothing to do with the alliance or the game ... or who leads whome and how ...
btw. there is an explanation from leadership in the other thread so read it ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:29:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
Wonder who's alt you might be.
So you're saying that an impartial servie provider should publish people email addresses and hashed passwords at whim? And that is ok. Well fair enough you ahve that opinion. Anyone who is deciding to use this service has to bear this in mind, especially as it's by his own admission.
"i updated the post with a better bagground story, and i agree the sql release thingy was prolly not the smartest move"
You takes your money and you makes your choice......
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:30:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
At some point I tought this might not have been a trolling session but it went that way ...
this is an out of game occurance ... he posted PERSONAL INFO on the net ... has nothing to do with the alliance or the game ... or who leads whome and how ...
btw. there is an explanation from leadership in the other thread so read it ...
Not like emails are hard to obtain anyway.
[email protected]
[email protected]
Want more? :P
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:31:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
At some point I tought this might not have been a trolling session but it went that way ...
this is an out of game occurance ... he posted PERSONAL INFO on the net ... has nothing to do with the alliance or the game ... or who leads whome and how ...
btw. there is an explanation from leadership in the other thread so read it ...
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:35:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
Wonder who's alt you might be.
So you're saying that an impartial servie provider should publish people email addresses and hashed passwords at whim? And that is ok. Well fair enough you ahve that opinion. Anyone who is deciding to use this service has to bear this in mind, especially as it's by his own admission.
"i updated the post with a better bagground story, and i agree the sql release thingy was prolly not the smartest move"
You takes your money and you makes your choice......
I lol'd. To narcissistic to be an alt, and please, if you require proof, SHC is all you need.
You waived your right to privacy when you registered on his server. You consented to give him your passwords, and if you use the same passwords for everything then that's your own damn fault. He released the dump because you treated him like shit, even though he put himself out of pocket to assist you. Who's the bastard again?
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:40:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
Actually I did nothing, but this person betrayed my personal trust and his tatement of protecting my privacy on the site and published the email address I'd used on there and the has of the password I used.
Now if he was upset with RQM he could discontinue the service, no one would be upset by that at all, what we're upset about is that he published our personal information in SHC IRC, including possibly the TRI peple who are here defending him as well.
You think that is how a service provider is supposed to behave?
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:41:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
this was a long post but in the end I cut it back because you'll keep trolling no matter how much proof you are provided with ...
please continue trolling and I;ll continue telling ppl just how screwed they will be one day when emokid here decides their alliance killed his favorite ship ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:49:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
You're still trying to justify why you did what you did without providing anything to back up what you say. Either way...meh. You're mixing in game and out of game in an attempt to disrupt someones operations because his bite is just as harmful as his bark. Personally, a guy who can do that is a damn excellent hosting provider 'cause you can't screw around with him.
For the record, it's not a troll. Just pointing out the flaws in your damage control.
this was a long post but in the end I cut it back because you'll keep trolling no matter how much proof you are provided with ...
please continue trolling and I;ll continue telling ppl just how screwed they will be one day when emokid here decides their alliance killed his favorite ship ...
Aye, I'm definitely trolling. Let's not even remember that you still haven't provided any evidence to the contrary, and given BDCI's track record, people are more likely to believe Karbo unless you can provide substantial evidence to the contrary.
Funny how anyone who doesn't agree is a troll :/
Originally by: "Hans Roaming"
Actually I did nothing, but this person betrayed my personal trust and his tatement of protecting my privacy on the site and published the email address I'd used on there and the has of the password I used.
Now if he was upset with RQM he could discontinue the service, no one would be upset by that at all, what we're upset about is that he published our personal information in SHC IRC, including possibly the TRI peple who are here defending him as well.
You think that is how a service provider is supposed to behave?
In that situation? No, but he's already admitted that in hindsight it wasn't a good idea. That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:54:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
[That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
Actually I didn't treat him like shit, I agreed to his terms of service and because someone in my alliance upset him he published my personal information in public contrary to those terms as opposed to just shutting the service down which I'd totally agree he his entitled to do and would not have any complaint about.
If you peronally are happy with this service then go ahead, just hope no one in your alliance or corp ban him from your IRC channels.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:57:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
[That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
Actually I didn't treat him like shit, I agreed to his terms of service and because someone in my alliance upset him he published my personal information in public contrary to those terms as opposed to just shutting the service down which I'd totally agree he his entitled to do and would not have any complaint about.
If you peronally are happy with this service then go ahead, just hope no one in your alliance or corp ban him from your IRC channels.
We ban him all the time. It's all cool. Looks like you did something wrong.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.10 23:58:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
OMG swearwords from a troll ... I'm so offended now ... go hack a forum or something ...
p i s s is the same word you used a post earlier.
Also, I don't need to hack a forum, I can get SQL dumps for free.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:04:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
[That's what you get for treating your service provider like shit, especially when he's providing his service for free.
Actually I didn't treat him like shit, I agreed to his terms of service and because someone in my alliance upset him he published my personal information in public contrary to those terms as opposed to just shutting the service down which I'd totally agree he his entitled to do and would not have any complaint about.
If you peronally are happy with this service then go ahead, just hope no one in your alliance or corp ban him from your IRC channels.
We ban him all the time. It's all cool. Looks like you did something wrong.
Yeah I guess I did when registering on the forums and believing the terms of service that he published.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:05:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
The OP has released the personal details of alliance pilots (to include emails and apparently password data).
There are no excuses. If you have an issue take it up with the individual you have an issue with. Thank you for dragging hundreds of innocent players into your personal bullshit.
Should a corporation member not suffer the same consequences as the corporation's CEO and vice versa if mistakes are made? Are they not responsible? RQM have provided no evidence to the contrary that this was a hostile intention towards their hosting provider. What you got as a result is merely a reaction to your action.
Shit sucks yeah, but you brought it upon yourself.
To quote the forum registration "As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
What exactly did I bring upon myself?
Where did I consent to having email and #password released to the public?
What does this have to do with myself and hundreds of other folks who just play EvE for fun and don't induldge in metagaming asshattery, stupid forum smack, and the other bullshit rampant in this game?
This has zero to do with EvE/alliance-corp affiliations etc. Its a violation of privacy and the board owner's stated terms of registration. It was an action completely uncalled for and should have been settled privately rather than in this fashion.
Despicable.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:06:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Mnement'h
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Don't **** off your bank clerks, then, idiot.
OMG swearwords from a troll ... I'm so offended now ... go hack a forum or something ...
p i s s is the same word you used a post earlier.
I as referring to the namecalling, hence the plural, but hey I can be more specific next time and spell it out for you so you can understand it ...
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Also, I don't need to hack a forum, I can get SQL dumps for free.
try getting some fresh ones cause the ones he dumped were from before his forums were deemed unsecure and therefor exchaged for new ones ... which is why he was p i s s ed over to begin with ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:13:00 -
[82]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
This has zero to do with EvE.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure there's also a clause in the T&C there that the hoster reserves the right to change/void the rights of any user at any time. It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:18:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
In the forum thread advertising his OOG services?
We're just former customers sharing our experience in here.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
This has zero to do with EvE.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure there's also a clause in the T&C there that the hoster reserves the right to change/void the rights of any user at any time. It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
try and screw over a customer on ebay ... see the reviews you get ... same thing here ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
Trigger64
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:19:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
betrayed my [...] trust
Quoting irony
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:24:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
In the forum thread advertising his OOG services?
We're just former customers sharing our experience in here.
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
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Da'Neth
Gallente
Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:26:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
In the forum thread advertising his OOG services?
We're just former customers sharing our experience in here.
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
this TBH besides I have not had any truble with karbo and helps me when thar is a problem. A+++++
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:32:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Mnement''h on 11/07/2008 00:33:32
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
what do you mean it doesn't work ? ... by your logic if you are not happy with a service and you terminate it then you can't complain about it ?
... anyways off to bed ... there's a troll a post above you so you can continue the pointless blameshifting with him ...
bottom line is this service isn't trustworthy ... and it never again will be ... you only screw up trust once ...
cya ...
edit: funny how all the ppl justifying his actions in both the threads are from the same corp ... :P ...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou are crunchy and go well with ketchup ... |
RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:34:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
This has zero to do with EvE.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure there's also a clause in the T&C there that the hoster reserves the right to change/void the rights of any user at any time. It's kind of sad that you're bringing something that happened OOG to the forums. IRC drama isn't for the forums the last time I checked.
"Pretty sure" is meaningless. And sure can't check it now eh?
And what else does one do? Report the individual concerned to his ISP? Yeah right....I'm sure he is losing sleep over that .
With no further recourse I have EVERY right bring my complaints regarding his service and violation of trust right here. In public.
An apology to the hundreds of pilots dragged into the individual's game of EGO-online would be a start.
And as for your commentary re:OOG to forums...that cat is well out of the bag in CAOD-cesspool.
Out-of-context quoting=fail btw.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:35:00 -
[90]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
To quote the forum registration "As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
When you enter information on the internet you consent to it being disclosed to anyone.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:37:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Trigger64
Originally by: Hans Roaming
betrayed my [...] trust
Quoting irony
Looking at your history, you mean when you were in Black Avavtar and I broke a NAP with FIX to attack FAT when president of Huzzah. Yes this in game action is exactly the same as betraying the trust of a real life person outside of a computer game, glad you can see the difference.
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Doesn't work when you terminate the contract due to issues on your end. You caused the problem.
Furthermore, ebay is completely different. There is money involved there. Karbo hosted your stuff out of his own pocket, and it's only when he asked for a little back that you all started to get stuck up.
Once again, your own fault.
Could you explain how the person behind the character Hans Roaming broke the terms of service along with his current allaince mates and the members of the corporations that now make up Triumvirate? There was no 'all started to get stuck up' as none of us knew what what going on, if we did then I would personally have recompensed him and thanked him for his outlay.
Turn off the service yes, publish our personal details on the Internet in SHC IRC, no.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:39:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
To quote the forum registration "As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
When you enter information on the internet you consent to it being disclosed to anyone.
Use personal banking onthe Internet?
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:41:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Viper ****zIe on 11/07/2008 00:41:52
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
To quote the forum registration "As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
When you enter information on the internet you consent to it being disclosed to anyone.
Use personal banking onthe Internet?
Understand the difference between an internet spaceship game forum and an accredited financial institution?
EDIT:
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Yes this in game action is exactly the same as betraying the trust of a real life person outside of a computer game, glad you can see the difference.
Apparently you don't.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:48:00 -
[94]
Totally unrelated to all the crap above
All killboards have been restored, if your board is not operational - evemail me ingame and i will fix it.
And if you can't login to your admin panel (which you 99.9% surely cant) evemail me aswell so i can change the password to what you want :)
Chances are noone reads this cause of all this spam, but oh well
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:53:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 11/07/2008 00:53:57
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Understand the difference between an internet spaceship game forum and an accredited financial institution?
Yes I do, so you're saying that contrary to your previous post that it depends on who you sign up with that determins their credibility as opposed to being service on the internet. I totally agree.
With Internet banking you can be sure that they will do what they can to prevent you details beocoming public, with Karbs service he's already leaked his former alliance and current alliance mates details on the Internet because a person upset him.
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
EDIT:
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Yes this in game action is exactly the same as betraying the trust of a real life person outside of a computer game, glad you can see the difference.
Apparently you don't.
Maybe I should put a /sarcasm at the end of such sentences to help you in future, yes?
Personally I don't understand why you feel the need to defend this person betrayal of trust to his former and current alliance mates by dumping their details on the Internet. People reading this thread can make up their own minds and make their own choice.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 00:56:00 -
[96]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
"Pretty sure" is meaningless. And sure can't check it now eh?
And what else does one do? Report the individual concerned to his ISP? Yeah right....I'm sure he is losing sleep over that .
With no further recourse I have EVERY right to bring my complaints regarding his service and violation of trust right here. In public.
An apology to the hundreds of pilots dragged into the individual's game of EGO-online would be a start.
And as for your commentary re:OOG to forums...that cat is well out of the bag in CAOD-cesspool.
Out-of-context quoting=fail btw.
**EDIT**Despicable is appropriate....in spades.
Aye, I wonder why we can't check it. Can it be that RQM's alliance leadership was so stuck up they couldn't sit down and actually talk to the guy that was hosting their boards out of his own pocket? Hell, isn't that what Karbo tried to do regarding the domain and was given a very blunt, and not to mention rude response? Sure, he'd left the alliance, so what? If you felt that the contract should have been terminated then you should have sat down and talked, not taken the scenic route whilst trying to avoid morality at the same time by banning him. Your fault as an alliance for failing to communicate.
You can bring your complaints here, sure. Do it in a decent fashion, not as some smear campaign because you feel that you've been wronged even though you as an alliance were the cause. Bring some evidence to the table before you open your mouth. It's not smart, and it certainly doesn't make you look like you are in the right. At least Karbo has the decency to say when he's done something wrong, and he's admitted he regrets it. Is your alliance leadership mature enough to do the same?
Furthermore, in regards to Karbowiak apologizing, why should he? You started the thing, and what happened was merely cause and effect, no matter what the effect was. Although...I suppose it's better to see the splinter in someone elses eye than the log in your own. I think that ties in nicely to your participation in EGO Online.
Fail is appropriate in spades in regards to your alliances attempts at damage control on the issue. You have still to substantiate your argument with any solid evidence, be it logs or whatever else.
So yeah, in light of your recent recruitment thread...decent corporation my ass. (BTW, that bit is trolling, just to clarify. You guys seem to have a bit of trouble with the literary translation).
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:09:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Aye, I wonder why we can't check it. Can it be that RQM's alliance leadership was so stuck up they couldn't sit down and actually talk to the guy that was hosting their boards out of his own pocket? Hell, isn't that what Karbo tried to do regarding the domain and was given a very blunt, and not to mention rude response? Sure, he'd left the alliance, so what? If you felt that the contract should have been terminated then you should have sat down and talked, not taken the scenic route whilst trying to avoid morality at the same time by banning him. Your fault as an alliance for failing to communicate.
You can bring your complaints here, sure. Do it in a decent fashion, not as some smear campaign because you feel that you've been wronged even though you as an alliance were the cause. Bring some evidence to the table before you open your mouth. It's not smart, and it certainly doesn't make you look like you are in the right. At least Karbo has the decency to say when he's done something wrong, and he's admitted he regrets it. Is your alliance leadership mature enough to do the same?
Furthermore, in regards to Karbowiak apologizing, why should he? You started the thing, and what happened was merely cause and effect, no matter what the effect was. Although...I suppose it's better to see the splinter in someone elses eye than the log in your own. I think that ties in nicely to your participation in EGO Online.
Fail is appropriate in spades in regards to your alliances attempts at damage control on the issue. You have still to substantiate your argument with any solid evidence, be it logs or whatever else.
So yeah, in light of your recent recruitment thread...decent corporation my ass. (BTW, that bit is trolling, just to clarify. You guys seem to have a bit of trouble with the literary translation).
By his post on CAOD:
"At that time Dakisha laughed and denied it - IRC Logs ->
(17:06:48) (Dakisha) for the domain
(17:06:52) (Dakisha) is the transfer key
(17:07:03) (Karbowiak) what?
(17:07:09) (Karbowiak) you want me to transfer the domain over ?
(17:07:14) (Dakisha) thought that was the plan
(17:07:45) (Karbowiak) well, just seems a bit unfair that i give it to ya after i bought and spent money on it :\
(17:07:51) (Dakisha) lol
(17:07:52) (Dakisha) forget it
(17:07:54) (Dakisha) I'll just reg the .com
After that i didn't talk much more about it, rest is pointless (full logs will be available if you scream about it). a little later on the requiem channel this happens.
(21:54:25) -¢ Seleene (+b) *!*@tld-7B28022A.ip.tele2adsl.dk
(21:55:09) (Eleese) ^ whos that :)
(21:55:19) (@Seleene) that was Karbo
(21:55:23) (Eleese) ah
(21:55:56) (Eleese) wondered why he was still here lol :)
(21:56:06) (@Seleene) that makes several of us. :)
(21:56:17) -¢ Join: Delantris ([email protected])
(21:56:20) -¢ Seleene (+o) CELES-Dacovale
(21:56:29) -¢ Seleene (+o) Khagen
(21:56:43) (Eleese) so anyone know if iron really is losing titan to bob...?
(21:58:12) (Theijuiel) we got pwned by titan... my first death to titan
(21:59:57) -¢ CELES-Dacovale (+b) *!*karbo@*.ip.tele2adsl.dk
(21:59:58) -¢ Karbowiak was kicked by CELES-Dacovale (CELES-Dacovale)"
And by his own admission on CAOD:
"and i agree the sql release thingy was prolly not the smartest move"
The way Dakisha treated him is plain wrong and if I was him I would feel wronged too. He was well within his rights to just cut off hosting the service and I agree with that. Publishing everyone who registered on that forums details which includes his current alliance mates as well as his former is probably of interest to anyone considering using these services.
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:09:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Mnement''h on 11/07/2008 01:12:59
Originally by: Sofia Roseburn
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
"Pretty sure" is meaningless. And sure can't check it now eh?
And what else does one do? Report the individual concerned to his ISP? Yeah right....I'm sure he is losing sleep over that .
With no further recourse I have EVERY right to bring my complaints regarding his service and violation of trust right here. In public.
An apology to the hundreds of pilots dragged into the individual's game of EGO-online would be a start.
And as for your commentary re:OOG to forums...that cat is well out of the bag in CAOD-cesspool.
Out-of-context quoting=fail btw.
**EDIT**Despicable is appropriate....in spades.
Aye, I wonder why we can't check it. Can it be that RQM's alliance leadership was so stuck up they couldn't sit down and actually talk to the guy that was hosting their boards out of his own pocket? Hell, isn't that what Karbo tried to do regarding the domain and was given a very blunt, and not to mention rude response? Sure, he'd left the alliance, so what? If you felt that the contract should have been terminated then you should have sat down and talked, not taken the scenic route whilst trying to avoid morality at the same time by banning him. Your fault as an alliance for failing to communicate.
You can bring your complaints here, sure. Do it in a decent fashion, not as some smear campaign because you feel that you've been wronged even though you as an alliance were the cause. Bring some evidence to the table before you open your mouth. It's not smart, and it certainly doesn't make you look like you are in the right. At least Karbo has the decency to say when he's done something wrong, and he's admitted he regrets it. Is your alliance leadership mature enough to do the same?
Furthermore, in regards to Karbowiak apologizing, why should he? You started the thing, and what happened was merely cause and effect, no matter what the effect was. Although...I suppose it's better to see the splinter in someone elses eye than the log in your own. I think that ties in nicely to your participation in EGO Online.
Fail is appropriate in spades in regards to your alliances attempts at damage control on the issue. You have still to substantiate your argument with any solid evidence, be it logs or whatever else.
So yeah, in light of your recent recruitment thread...decent corporation my ass. (BTW, that bit is trolling, just to clarify. You guys seem to have a bit of trouble with the literary translation).
You can keep retelling the same BS all over again but other than his word I have yet to see one single piece of evidence that RQM leadership did what he claims we did ...and you are basing your whole 'holier than thou' attitude on the fact that he claims we did it to him and you are asking for evidence to the contrary ... so you are making us guilty until proven otherwise ... on the other hand your protegee here has admitted to dumping all the private data on the net (committed the rhetorical crime) and based his defense on his claims that we wronged him even tho he hasn't provided a single proof to substantiate the claim ...
... so either you ask him to post proof as well or you stfu because right now you are just one more of his alts trying to bail his ass out of a seriously messed up situation in which he has lost face and the trust of many people who are reading these lines atm.
****zle ... grow up ...
EDIT : ... so kai refused to pay for a domain transfer and he dumps it all on the net ? ... that's a new version of overreacting ...
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:10:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Personally I don't understand why you feel the need to defend this person betrayal of trust to his former and current alliance mates by dumping their details on the Internet. People reading this thread can make up their own minds and make their own choice.
Personally I don't see why you feel the need to keep carrying in about it, if you've already informed people of what happened and believe they're smart enough to make up their own minds.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:12:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Personally I don't understand why you feel the need to defend this person betrayal of trust to his former and current alliance mates by dumping their details on the Internet. People reading this thread can make up their own minds and make their own choice.
Personally I don't see why you feel the need to keep carrying in about it, if you've already informed people of what happened and believe they're smart enough to make up their own minds.
Fair enough, BTW I got someone from Nigeria interested in getting a few million out of the country, interested?
No matter where you go, there you are.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:13:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can keep retelling the same BS all over again but other than his word I have yet to see one single piece of evidence that RQM leadership did what he claims we did ...and you are basing your whole 'holier than thou' attitude on the fact that he claims we did it to him and you are asking for evidence to the contrary ... so you are making us guilty until proven otherwise ... on the other hand your protegee here has admitted to dumping all the private data on the net (committed the rhetorical crime) and based his defense on his claims that we wronged him even tho he hasn't provided a single proof to substantiate the claim ...
... so either you ask him to post proof as well or you stfu because right now you are just one more of his alts trying to bail his ass out of a seriously messed up situation in which he has lost face and the trust of many people who are reading these lines atm.
****zle ... grow up ...
look up, i actually did post proof as to why i was ****ed and did what i did.
As far as i can read (and ive read it all two times now) - im the only one giving any proof as to what happened. And everyone on my side is also correct about who the finger should be pointed at.
The Requiem
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:18:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Fair enough, BTW I got someone from Nigeria interested in getting a few million out of the country, interested?
Sure, I'll give them your info that's sitting on my webspace.
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Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:24:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can keep retelling the same BS all over again but other than his word I have yet to see one single piece of evidence that RQM leadership did what he claims we did ...and you are basing your whole 'holier than thou' attitude on the fact that he claims we did it to him and you are asking for evidence to the contrary ... so you are making us guilty until proven otherwise ... on the other hand your protegee here has admitted to dumping all the private data on the net (committed the rhetorical crime) and based his defense on his claims that we wronged him even tho he hasn't provided a single proof to substantiate the claim ...
... so either you ask him to post proof as well or you stfu because right now you are just one more of his alts trying to bail his ass out of a seriously messed up situation in which he has lost face and the trust of many people who are reading these lines atm.
****zle ... grow up ...
EDIT : ... so kai refused to pay for a domain transfer and he dumps it all on the net ? ... that's a new version of overreacting ...
You need to see the above post really.
Also Hans, seems you're coming round to the logical side of things. He's admitted he regrets it, but due to Dacovale/Seleene's treatment of him on IRC it's probably justified.
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Mnement'h
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:24:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Mnement''h on 11/07/2008 01:25:37
Originally by: Karbowiak
Originally by: Mnement'h
You can keep retelling the same BS all over again but other than his word I have yet to see one single piece of evidence that RQM leadership did what he claims we did ...and you are basing your whole 'holier than thou' attitude on the fact that he claims we did it to him and you are asking for evidence to the contrary ... so you are making us guilty until proven otherwise ... on the other hand your protegee here has admitted to dumping all the private data on the net (committed the rhetorical crime) and based his defense on his claims that we wronged him even tho he hasn't provided a single proof to substantiate the claim ...
... so either you ask him to post proof as well or you stfu because right now you are just one more of his alts trying to bail his ass out of a seriously messed up situation in which he has lost face and the trust of many people who are reading these lines atm.
****zle ... grow up ...
look up, i actually did post proof as to why i was ****ed and did what i did.
As far as i can read (and ive read it all two times now) - im the only one giving any proof as to what happened. And everyone on my side is also correct about who the finger should be pointed at.
The Requiem
Actually all I'm seeing is you going emoragefit because Dakisha refused to pay for the domain transfer ... did you ask Seleene about it ? ... did you ask any of the other Req directors ? ... where is the part where we said you DEMANDED money ? ... I can't post logs of talks I haven't done with you ... but you posted my mail adress ... giddit ? ... mine ... did you ask me to pay for the domain ? ... did I even know you wanted money for the domain ? ...
you can't be a selective saint when you frack 100 ppl over ...
also you got banned from another alliances IRC without prior notice and you get emo about it ? have you been playing wow or something ? .. usually when I leave a corp my access is cut before I can even say bye in corp chat and the 24 hour grace period has even started ticking ... (just ask mynas for confirmation on that) ... do I go and post all I know about my ex alliance / corp on the net hurting the people I flew with till an hour ago ? ... hell no ...
your futile attempts to damage control the black mark you just made on your reputation is based on seriously wrong premises ... we ****ed you ? ... no mate ... you overreacted and blew a lid and now are trying to blame it on us ...
you may think it works but trust is a one time thing .. you break it once and you're smeared forever ... right now Krall Amarr has a better rating than you ... at least he ****ed his friends for a titan ... you did it cause you couldn't handle an irc ban ...
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 01:30:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Mnement'h
Actually all I'm seeing is you going emoragefit because Dakisha refused to pay for the domain transfer ... did you ask Seleene about it ? ... did you ask any of the other Req directors ? ... where is the part where we said you DEMANDED money ? ... I can't post logs of talks I haven't done with you ... but you posted my mail adress ... giddit ? ... mine ... did you ask me to pay for the domain ? ... did I even know you wanted money for the domain ? ...
you can't be a selective saint when you frack 100 ppl over ...
also you got banned from another alliances IRC without prior notice and you get emo about it ? have you been playing wow or something ? .. usually when I leave a corp my access is cut before I can even say bye in corp chat and the 24 hour grace period has even started ticking ... (just ask mynas for confirmation on that) ... do I go and post all I know about my ex alliance / corp on the net hurting the people I flew with till an hour ago ? ... hell no ...
your futile attempts to damage control the black mark you just made on your reputation is based on seriously wrong premises ... we ****ed you ? ... no mate ... you overreacted and blew a lid and now are trying to blame it on us ...
you may think it works but trust is a one time thing .. you break it once and you're smeared forever ... right now Krall Amarr has a better rating than you ... at least he ****ed his friends for a titan ... you did it cause you couldn't handle an irc ban ...
Honestly, what are you going on about?..
Kai wasn't supposed to pay the money, why should he? and i talked to Dakisha because he was the one ive been talking to about it all the time. He could have talked to the rest of the leadership (i guess he did, hence the ban?)
And Seleene wont have anything to do with it, he just wants stuff working, which i can agree and nod at - its nice when stuffs working. Just bad when your in a leadership position and the guys hosting stuff needs to hear what the leadership wants it todo.
I never DEMANDED money, i said it would be better and more apropriate if i got paid for it. Since it was after all a service i provided free of charge.
As far as the 100 people i ****ed over by giving out the sql stuff, sorry about that - you've all done stupid things while ****ed, i did it and i regret doing it.
And i emoraged over being banned without being noticed about it, i emoraged over the fact that requiem wasn't even saying thanks for my work, i emoraged over the fact that the leadership didn't have the common decensy to even tell me that i wasn't wanted on their irc server anymore.
As for the rest you write i have no clue about - thats just random rabble rabble.
Oh and, HI KRALL - WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME LEVEL NAO!
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WarGod
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 02:05:00 -
[106]
Edited by: WarGod on 11/07/2008 02:05:56
(Posting here coz im not banned unlike someone - my whale friend)
Dono why The Requiem people are getting so worked up they're about a titan loss away from disbanding anyway.
Karb provides a very useful and stable service would recommend to people who dont even play eve. I want to be like him when i grow up etc.
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Torshin
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.07.11 02:45:00 -
[107]
highly recommend his services. Requiem tried to screw him out of RL cash and his hard work and payed for it simple as that. I realize most of the grunts are ****ed but w/e your leadership screwed you not karbo.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:49:00 -
[108]
use karbowiaks service if you want your information leaked all over the web. All it takes is that one time for being ****ed so much for a decent host. I would hope that anyone with their info on his server would be very cautious now.
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HoeMaster
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:51:00 -
[109]
I was not directly involved in what happened with Karb and I don't have the time to fight pointless arguments with people here. That said, I want to make one point.
From what I've heard and read, it seems to me that Karb maybe had a reason to be mad about paying money for creating the forum and the killboard and to shut them down, to me, seemed to be a reasonable reaction after what happened. I will not condone that, but I will say that what he did next was completely unacceptable. I don't know Karb other than that he helped alot with this stuff when he was in the alliance, but I did lose alot of respect for him when he took people's personal information and posted it for the public to see. This could prove frustrating, time-consuming, or even dangerous for people who didn't have anything to do with this what so ever. It's something that was low and childish. Like I said, I don't know Karb and, from what I've read, I understand what he did with the forums and the killboard, but he went to far with the public posting of these people's personal information.
Just had to say that.
Oh and Hi Viper 
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 06:58:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Seleene on 11/07/2008 06:58:28
Originally by: Karbowiak
Kai wasn't supposed to pay the money, why should he? and i talked to Dakisha because he was the one ive been talking to about it all the time.
Exactly. The issue was between the two of you. AFAIK, he felt like the process was taking too long but that's all I really know about it. Anything further is between the two of you.
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And Seleene wont have anything to do with it, he just wants stuff working, which i can agree and nod at - its nice when stuffs working. Just bad when your in a leadership position and the guys hosting stuff needs to hear what the leadership wants it to do.
Then the fault does not lie with the 200 or so people whose info you dumped, correct? And if you understand my position... seriously, WTF, man?
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I never DEMANDED money, i said it would be better and more apropriate if i got paid for it. Since it was after all a service i provided free of charge.
No disagreement there. I didn't even know there was such a discussion. Perhaps you should have pushed this a bit further before you, quite honestly, went nuts?
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And i emoraged over being banned without being noticed about it, i emoraged over the fact that requiem wasn't even saying thanks for my work, i emoraged over the fact that the leadership didn't have the common decensy to even tell me that i wasn't wanted on their irc server anymore.
None of which justifies your reaction. Karb, a simple convo to me would have resolved all of this but I was mostly AFK tho yesterday for reasons out of my control. Your work WAS appreciated, but folks just wanted "the TRI guy" out of out the IRC channel. How about you count to ten the next time someone ****es you off?
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.11 11:56:00 -
[111]
Originally by: HoeMaster
Oh and Hi Viper
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DarkArtz
Celestial Apocalypse
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 12:06:00 -
[112]
"As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent".
Gee ... I don't remember consenting? As to adhering to your own terms ... you fail. I would not recommend this service to anyone in the future.
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Raeff
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.11 14:13:00 -
[113]
Karb, you failed yourself and you failed your customer. What you did was completely unexcusable. Now you and the rest of the ex-Req Tri who i called "friend" sit and laugh with each other at our expense(WTF guys seriously? ). Your lack of PATIENCE and COMMUNICATION cost you the money you were seeking, not the people in Requiem. How you do not understand this is beyond me. You trash BDCI with lies and claim we are this power hungry entity that must control everything, yet you dont even bother to discuss the issue with anyone in BDCI. Could you contradict yourself any more? I could probably name half a dozen people just off the top of my head(me included) that would have corrected the unknown issue and reimbursed you had you actually COMMUNICATED with us.
Man up and take some responsibility. YOU f*cked up, not Requiem.
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Da'Neth
Gallente
Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.07.11 17:32:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Da''Neth on 11/07/2008 17:34:32
Originally by: Raeff
Man up and take some responsibility. YOU f*cked up, not Requiem.
as for him pulling down KB forums and every thing he was 100% with in his rights to do that.
the rest of it he has said it was his f*ck up for the reless and we have all f*cked up in one way or another when we are P*ssed off.
as for info that was given get over it if you are stupid enuff not to use a free email (that is esaly changed), or use the same PW for every thing I have to say to you WTF are you smoking?
I have selval free email acounts and never use the same pw for stupid stuff like forums as I do for the main things like email or other acounts
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.11 19:34:00 -
[115]
Soooo..
Server Update, all forums that i hosted has been kicked back up (YAY) and all killboards are also kicked back up.
All boards have an altered admin password tho, so convo or evemail me ingame to get it changed asap (else you can't login to your admin panel)
Anyone wanting a killboard (or forum) or just some webspace for their corp to do whatever - feel free to poke me to signup :)
Dont let all the turmoil get to you (all the previous posts) im not out to grief you by releasing your inner most secrets to the whole internet
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Da'Neth
Gallente
Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.07.12 17:08:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Karbowiak
Soooo..
Server Update, all forums that i hosted has been kicked back up (YAY) and all killboards are also kicked back up.
All boards have an altered admin password tho, so convo or evemail me ingame to get it changed asap (else you can't login to your admin panel)
Anyone wanting a killboard (or forum) or just some webspace for their corp to do whatever - feel free to poke me to signup :)
Dont let all the turmoil get to you (all the previous posts) im not out to grief you by releasing your inner most secrets to the whole internet
Woot its all working agen a++++ Service
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HakerElite
Corp 1 Allstars
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.13 01:23:00 -
[117]
Simple, Karbowiak is too young and inexperienced with both his server and emotions too run a reliable service. I would recommend dropping his service and not using it.
As for you Karbowiak you should probably change your ways early on in life. Going around breaking EULA's and even worse, trust, is not a good start for a young man of your age.
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Karbowiak
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.13 02:35:00 -
[118]
Originally by: HakerElite
Simple, Karbowiak is too young and inexperienced with both his server and emotions too run a reliable service. I would recommend dropping his service and not using it.
As for you Karbowiak you should probably change your ways early on in life. Going around breaking EULA's and even worse, trust, is not a good start for a young man of your age.
I think its rather simple, i help out a new alliance - and when i try and do things the right way, by wanting to sell the domain to your alliance - and my kindness is then returned by the leadership not talking to each other, and then i get banned/removed/kicked from your IRC channel as a result of your leadership not wanting the domain or my help anymore.
Then i get ****ed, i guess anyone would. The removal of all your services was a thing that needed to be done. The SQL dump release was an error tho, and i will stand by that this was an error that will haunt me for long.
However, can we PLEASE stop posting SHIT in my sales thread?.
And if your hoping people will stop using my service, i sadly have to tell you that since i got everything up and running again - i already have another 5 customers, that are very happy.
Hell even one of them researched my history very thoroughly (BLEH!) and came to the conclusion, it wasn't me - it was The Requiem that was at blame for 90% of it.
//Karb
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locked as the thread has descended to flamefest.
WeatherMan
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EVE Online, CCP Games
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