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Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 09:55:00 - [1] Edited by: Jenina Hawke on 04/06/2008 10:00:46 Ok, I've been a bad girl. Seriously, I know it. Killed too many Amarr ships over the years, too many Caldari too. And it is showing. Even with Diplomacy 5, I can barely scr ape a -4.57 standing with Amarr and none of the related factions will talk to me. Except... CONCORD - and they don't have mission agents. So - since Faction Warfare will create others like me (I know how I ended up with my standing and I am ok with it) - how about opening up Concord agents so we have a slight chance of redeeming ourselves with hard grinding? My 5 ISK and change. Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 09:55:00 - [2] Edited by: Jenina Hawke on 04/06/2008 10:00:46 Ok, I've been a bad girl. Seriously, I know it. Killed too many Amarr ships over the years, too many Caldari too. And it is showing. Even with Diplomacy 5, I can barely scr ape a -4.57 standing with Amarr and none of the related factions will talk to me. Except... CONCORD - and they don't have mission agents. So - since Faction Warfare will create others like me (I know how I ended up with my standing and I am ok with it) - how about opening up Concord agents so we have a slight chance of redeeming ourselves with hard grinding? My 5 ISK and change. Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Amanda Wilkins Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 09:59:00 - [3] Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 04/06/2008 10:02:32 Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 04/06/2008 10:01:27 Nevermind - would not want to be banned for writing ... scrap*e. Amanda Amanda Wilkins CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish Protector of the Bunnies of Stain ... because we DGAF!
Amanda Wilkins Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 09:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 04/06/2008 10:02:32 Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 04/06/2008 10:01:27 Nevermind - would not want to be banned for writing ... scrap*e. Amanda Amanda Wilkins CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish Protector of the Bunnies of Stain ... because we DGAF!
Armoured C Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:01:00 - [5] it cuz it has R.A.P.E in it
Armoured C Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:01:00 - [6] it cuz it has R.A.P.E in it
CrestoftheStars Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:18:00 - [7] ou have ****** the faction of ss much that they hate you.' if you want them to even consider letting you work for them you will need some one with standing towards them to let you in on his missions and that way work your standing up with a corp so you can make missions for that corp yourself ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
Armoured C Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:22:00 - [8] i think CCP know about the standing loop that is currently happening you bad girls will be put on track soon
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:22:00 - [9] Edited by: Jenina Hawke on 04/06/2008 10:25:00 Originally by: CrestoftheStars ou have **** the faction of ss much that they hate you.' if you want them to even consider letting you work for them you will need some one with standing towards them to let you in on his missions and that way work your standing up with a corp so you can make missions for that corp yourself Nope, will not work when your faction standing is -2 or less. I have -2.5 or so with the best of the related factions. Actually, what I have done is do missions - for the wrong crowd, some will say, but I am fine with whom I run missions for. I just want a mechanic that will enable me to work my way back from this point. It does not have to be easy. I COULD work for InterBus - but they have no storyline agents. So... hey, just add one single storyline agent for InterBus and I'm happy? Pretty please? Jen * No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Jenina Hawke Originally by: CrestoftheStars ou have ****** the faction of ss much that they hate you.' if you want them to even consider letting you work for them you will need some one with standing towards them to let you in on his missions and that way work your standing up with a corp so you can make missions for that corp yourself Nope, will not work when your faction standing is -2 or less. I have -2.5 or so with the best of the related factions. Actually, what I have done is do missions - for the wrong crowd, some will say, but I am fine with whom I run missions for. I just want a mechanic that will enable me to work my way back from this point. It does not have to be easy. Jen Don't see what concord has to do with all this at all TBH. It is faction standings you are losing, not global security status - so they'd have to implement a way for you to redeem yourself to the specific faction (amarr, minmatar, etc.) There is no such functionality right now as I understand it, so you're screwed until CCP fixes it in 2010.
Nareg Maxence The Scope	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:25:00 - [11] Why would you fly with those Amarr maniacs anyway? Come to Gallente space and feel the kµrlighed dTr..
Armoured C Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:28:00 - [12] Edited by: Armoured C on 04/06/2008 10:28:15 oooh i have a idea you need to have someome who can do the mission though and just group up with them and when it comes time to hand in missions accept it for the group new there was a way to get around it join the gallente militia remember we have exotic dancers
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Nareg Maxence Why would you fly with those Amarr maniacs anyway? Come to Gallente space and feel the kµrlighed dTr.. Nareg, hon, you know I am not ever going to join FW for those Amarr maniacs - but I do want to be able to AFK my ships in Amarr space... which the beefed up navies in the FW expansion makes impossible for us bad girls. The problem is that I worked my way to lower than -2 with all Amarr/Caldari related factions way before Faction Warfare was thought of and so I had no warning that I would be ... well, screwed by an expansion that is now only days away. I am just asking for an in-game mechanism to undo the damage to my rep in Amarr space. Slightly. I don't want to be buddy-buddy with the Amarr navy - just to be able to fly AFK through any region of Empire since I frankly don't really care about Empire anyway. Yeah, I know - I can use alts to transport my stuff, but there should be a mechanism to redeem even a hardened criminal like me. I mean - pirates just rat for a couple of days and are then able to go back to high sec ganking all they like. I cannot redeem my character at this point - due to having done missions. Jen ** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 04/06/2008 10:28:15 oooh i have a idea you need to have someome who can do the mission though and just group up with them and when it comes time to hand in missions accept it for the group new there was a way to get around it join the gallente militia remember we have exotic dancers Does not work - I need faction standing increase and you cannot share storyline missions AFAIK. Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Nareg Maxence The Scope	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:38:00 - [15] Well if you don't join the militia faction, the navy wont kill you, so there is no change for you. They only go after those that have joined the opposing militia faction, so if you don't do that and just go about your business as usual, then you have no problem, really.
Armoured C Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:38:00 - [16] noooooo you completly mis got that you need standing with the navy or what not to get the story line doing standard mission with someome will get you the standing needed to do missions and do 16 missions to get storyline that any better
Venkul Mul	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:42:00 - [17] Edited by: Venkul Mul on 04/06/2008 10:46:14 Originally by: Nareg Maxence Well if you don't join the militia faction, the navy wont kill you, so there is no change for you. They only go after those that have joined the opposing militia faction, so if you don't do that and just go about your business as usual, then you have no problem, really. Even if she don't join the militia she will be attacked by the navy if her modified standing is worse than -5 and she entre high sec systems. I think you can try the Kanid, it seeem you have some standing left if you train diplomacy to the max. Originally by: Armoured C noooooo you completly mis got that you need standing with the navy or what not to get the story line doing standard mission with someome will get you the standing needed to do missions and do 16 missions to get storyline that any better She is at the point where her faction standing block any agent of the amarr or caldari faction from speaking with her. So even if she get standing 10 with one of the corporations through shared standing gain they will not speak with her for the low faction standing.
Amanda Wilkins Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:42:00 - [18] Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 04/06/2008 10:43:47 Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 04/06/2008 10:43:29 Double post, disregard Amanda Wilkins CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish Protector of the Bunnies of Stain ... because we DGAF!
Amanda Wilkins Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:43:00 - [19] Originally by: Nareg Maxence Well if you don't join the militia faction, the navy wont kill you, so there is no change for you. They only go after those that have joined the opposing militia faction, so if you don't do that and just go about your business as usual, then you have no problem, really. Wrong. I tried it on Sisi with a standing of -5.3 (before Diplomacy 5). I was attacked and killed by the navy the moment I entered an Amarr system. Edit: Argh, defaulting to wrong char Jen and her boss. Amanda Wilkins CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish Protector of the Bunnies of Stain ... because we DGAF!
Nareg Maxence The Scope	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:44:00 - [20] Thats the same as it is now on TQ as far as I know..
Estel Arador	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:45:00 - [21] After the expansion you can join a corp which is in the Amarr or Caldari militia and work your standing with them up that way. It'll be a pain though. Estel Arador corp services (high-sec POS/JCs) just 120M isk!
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Nareg Maxence Well if you don't join the militia faction, the navy wont kill you, so there is no change for you. They only go after those that have joined the opposing militia faction, so if you don't do that and just go about your business as usual, then you have no problem, really. Even if she don't join the militia she will be attacked by the navy if her modified standing is worse than -5 and she entre high sec systems. I think you can try the Kanid, it seeem you have some standing left if you train diplomacy to the max. With Diplomacy 5, I have -3.68 to Caldari, -3.6 to Ammatar, -3.3 to Khanid, -2.46 to Mordus Legion. Yeah, I am a bad case. Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Estel Arador After the expansion you can join a corp which is in the Amarr or Caldari militia and work your standing with them up that way. It'll be a pain though. They won't want me, since my unmodified standing of -8,22 to Amarr will weigh in heavily on the corp standing. Besides - I really, really, really do not want to fly FW. I just want to remain in my normal corp and alliance. Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:48:00 - [24] Edited by: Jenina Hawke on 04/06/2008 10:52:19 Originally by: Nareg Maxence Thats the same as it is now on TQ as far as I know.. Nope. Just trust me on this. I was unable to AFK a raptor through Amarr space... that is not the case today on Tranq. Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Estel Arador	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:51:00 - [25] You wanted "a slight chance of redeeming ourselves with hard grinding". There is a slight chance of redeeming yourselves with hard grinding by finding a corp which wants you (you don't have to join the Amarr militia, you can also join the Caldari militia if you have 'less worse' standings with them) and doing lots of fighting. Or do you actually want a guaranteed 'chance' with easy pickings? Estel Arador corp services (high-sec POS/JCs) just 120M isk!
Venkul Mul	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Jenina Hawke With Diplomacy 5, I have -3.68 to Caldari, -3.6 to Ammatar, -3.3 to Khanid, -2.46 to Mordus Legion. Yeah, I am a bad case. Jen Shared pain (well, not really as I am not interested in recovering my Amarr/Caldari standing ). You can try the hidden Concord agent in Mandoo. From what I know it is the only Concord agent still active and he give a single important mission once. Be careful, the mission beacon appear in space (the mission spawn a complex) and in the past there was people that jumped in the mission to stheal the crucial loot. He has given me 10% increase in security status and a standing gain with all the empires. I dubt it will be sufficient but it is something.
Jenina Hawke Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.06.04 10:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Estel Arador You wanted "a slight chance of redeeming ourselves with hard grinding". There is a slight chance of redeeming yourselves with hard grinding by finding a corp which wants you (you don't have to join the Amarr militia, you can also join the Caldari militia if you have 'less worse' standings with them) and doing lots of fighting. Or do you actually want a guaranteed 'chance' with easy pickings? What easy pickings? To have to leave the corp and alliance that I have worked to help build over the last nearly 2 years? I think that I as a player should not be forced to join another corp to be able to work my way around an expansion. Really. And I doubt if any FW corp for Caldari or Amarr would take me for the simple reasons that I have those very bad standings which WILL factor into their corp standings. Oh, and also quite possibly because I would only be there to grind my way out and then gone as fast as the wind back to my real corp... Jen *** No signature is good enough *** DGAF Newbie Guide
Estel Arador	Posted - 2008.06.04 11:03:00 - [28] The other option is training diplomacy V, getting that -4.57 standing and making sure it doesn't get worse. Yes it will require a change in what you've been doing for the past 2 years, but you could've thought of that earlier. It's not like factional warfare coming is a surprise, neither is the empires not like people with horrible standings to them. Your actions have consequences and now, for the first time, there will be a way out of the standings hole and you're complaining it's not easy enough. Lady, it being possible is a huge lot easier than it being impossible as it was for years... Estel Arador corp services (high-sec POS/JCs) just 120M isk!
Venkul Mul	Posted - 2008.06.04 11:20:00 - [29] Originally by: Estel Arador The other option is training diplomacy V, getting that -4.57 standing and making sure it doesn't get worse. Yes it will require a change in what you've been doing for the past 2 years, but you could've thought of that earlier. It's not like factional warfare coming is a surprise, neither is the empires not like people with horrible standings to them. Your actions have consequences and now, for the first time, there will be a way out of the standings hole and you're complaining it's not easy enough. Lady, it being possible is a huge lot easier than it being impossible as it was for years... Before berating the other people, have you tried it? 1) FW agents will give mission to someone with -2 or worse standing with the faction if he is in a militia? 2) Militia mission give faction standing gains or only militia? 3) Capturing complex give faction standing and not only militia standing? I am almost sure that the reply to 1 is no.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2008.06.04 11:22:00 - [30] Jen, you have probably been working for pirate agents. They used to give nice implants, did they not? In roleplay terms it makes sense that the empires do not want you in their armies, if your standings are too low. I guess for people in your situation it might make sense if pirate factions were somehow involved in FW. You could then work for these. Also, CCP stated in the last dev chat that they were looking into ways for players to be able to increase empire faction standings when they are below -2. But this will not be in at the same time as the FW patch, but later. EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki

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