Originally by: Forkrul

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"Now we must come together, and send a message to CCP that they need to change the models of Titans into Monster Trucks." - Barack Obama

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Originally by: SocialPolice

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wow... a goonie monster truck circle jerk.

Dont you have any good ideas?

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Originally by: Tress Macneille

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Originally by: SocialPolice

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wow... a goonie monster truck circle jerk.

Dont you have any good ideas?

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here's a good idea:


















stop posting

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Originally by: Viktor Amand

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I am NOT a Goon and I support this product and/or service.

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Originally by: mazzilliu

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gravedigger is the best monster truck, ever

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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I can completely get behind this idea!

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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This is just one reason why I cannot support any members of the Something Awful forums from congregating in this game. It produces absurd ideas like the original idea proposed in the first post. Not only such, but it begs to be taken seriously, in a forum and place in which it cannot be.

Go ahead and vote GoonSwarm and friends, it won't matter in the end. All you will do is raise issues which ultmately will push CCP to taking action against your members as a whole (at least in my opinion).

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Originally by: Fallorn

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... You on the other hand just see GOONS like a tool and assume every thing we say is bad....

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Originally by: Fallorn

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Have you suicided ships for the fun of it?

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Originally by: Fallorn

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Have you ever seen a non-npc titan? Have you had to deal with fleet fights where you know in anything less than a cap ship you are useless because your enemies can doomsday you ever 10 mins?

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Originally by: Fallorn

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Did people in your corp make eve-mon because they wanted to help friends? Did your corp start a wiki to help all your new player and get thousands of new players out into 0.0 space? Really were you station camped into syndicate by BOB when your entire alliance had less than 5 cap ships, and told you would never be able to live in 0.0 space again? People have taken a dump on us for years and we fight back, grow stronger, grow larger because people like you. Hell Bane wrote the titan manifesto that got things changed.

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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Originally by: Fallorn

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Have you suicided ships for the fun of it?

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Yes I have. I've also suicided out of boredom, stupidity, and because I follow my FC's orders to a T, even when I shouldn't have.

Originally by: Fallorn

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Have you ever seen a non-npc titan? Have you had to deal with fleet fights where you know in anything less than a cap ship you are useless because your enemies can doomsday you ever 10 mins?

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I wasn't aware that only people who have see Titans were the only people qualified to vote on this issue, but thank you for letting me know that something I might see/do in the future is something I cannot vote on now; you may as well take your own advice when voting on issues too in the future.
Yes, I have been involved in fleet battles where one might expect only some of the capital ships to get out safely, and if any non-capitals came back, it was because de-sync had kept them from joining the fight.

Originally by: Fallorn

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Did people in your corp make eve-mon because they wanted to help friends? Did your corp start a wiki to help all your new player and get thousands of new players out into 0.0 space? Really were you station camped into syndicate by BOB when your entire alliance had less than 5 cap ships, and told you would never be able to live in 0.0 space again? People have taken a dump on us for years and we fight back, grow stronger, grow larger because people like you. Hell Bane wrote the titan manifesto that got things changed.

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So what I read here is that I must have been in a corporation of thousands, many with attention problems, in order to be taken seriously by you. I would never be in a corporation that recruited new players by the hundreds. I would sooner leave, and then to take them to 0.0 space... well, ask outsiders what they see GS as. They are disconnected from the main of EVE, and always have been largely. That is why it is was nearly required of your older members to create EVEMon and a wiki- you had too many new players lost in EVE, with too few people to show them how to play properly.

In contrast, most PvP corporations recruit people either based on skillpoints, or may choose to let such slide when talking to an extraordinary person with as much focus, determination, and maturity, that their SP isn't a true reflection of how they grasp the game. Needless to say, this wasn't how GS gained so many members early on, recruiting from the get go from the Something Awful forums as one of the first requirements. I am not aware there was any SP limit, or any in-game requirements for that matter, and as time has gone on and members have left, I am sure many other requirements have been lowered simply to keep active member count up.

In short, those looking in will see what I see in the end. While there are a number of players who are good at the game, are mature, or show some responsibility or tact at the least, many of your players will always be viewed as being immature children who want only their way, and will go to any means to accomplish such- and the proof positive is here in the CSM forums as a final nail in the lid.

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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I know, a wall of text. Sorry, but I do expect to defend myself when someone tries to belittle me, my opinion, or my friends.

That said, I can understand why you didn't read it. Normally, I would disregard such a long post myself.

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Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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I know, a wall of text. Sorry, but I do expect to defend myself when someone tries to belittle me, my opinion, or my friends.

That said, I can understand why you didn't read it. Normally, I would disregard such a long post myself.

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i really dont think you read his post your doesn't even seem to be responding to what he said.

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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I know, a wall of text. Sorry, but I do expect to defend myself when someone tries to belittle me, my opinion, or my friends.

That said, I can understand why you didn't read it. Normally, I would disregard such a long post myself.

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i really dont think you read his post your doesn't even seem to be responding to what he said.

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No, I have. He's said he didn't read it, but references it anyhow. So, what was your point again?

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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which ultmately will push CCP to taking action against your members as a whole

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Originally by: LASER WATCHER

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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which ultmately will push CCP to taking action against your members as a whole

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what kind of action

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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I could only imagine bannings, temporary or permanent (though I doubt many, if any, Goons members actually get to this point really); either forum or account. I couldn't really guess accurately, as I'm a player, not an employee of CCP. Instances of EULA violation, spamming, harassment, and of course racial/sexual slurs as well as some other things I cannot now think of could bring it about.

Of course, that's how I see it, and doubtless those people in positions to do anything would take everything into account, and disregard the Goon ticker. I would hope they would at least.

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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I could only imagine bannings, temporary or permanent (though I doubt many, if any, Goons members actually get to this point really); either forum or account. I couldn't really guess accurately, as I'm a player, not an employee of CCP. Instances of EULA violation, spamming, harassment, and of course racial/sexual slurs as well as some other things I cannot now think of could bring it about.

Of course, that's how I see it, and doubtless those people in positions to do anything would take everything into account, and disregard the Goon ticker. I would hope they would at least.

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Are you imagining offenses for which you had previously stated there should be punishment? Either goons should be punished for something or they shouldn't. Saying "GOONS SHOULD BE BANNED IMO" then "I don't know what they've done" when asked why is pretty silly.

Also I support this idea. ++

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Originally by: Maelia Gurast

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I could only imagine bannings, temporary or permanent (though I doubt many, if any, Goons members actually get to this point really); either forum or account. I couldn't really guess accurately, as I'm a player, not an employee of CCP. Instances of EULA violation, spamming, harassment, and of course racial/sexual slurs as well as some other things I cannot now think of could bring it about.

Of course, that's how I see it, and doubtless those people in positions to do anything would take everything into account, and disregard the Goon ticker. I would hope they would at least.

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Are you imagining offenses for which you had previously stated there should be punishment? Either goons should be punished for something or they shouldn't. Saying "GOONS SHOULD BE BANNED IMO" then "I don't know what they've done" when asked why is pretty silly.

Also I support this idea. ++

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I never stated, to my knowledge, that any member should be punished retroactively; in addition, if I had knowledge of rules being broken, I would take my concerns to the proper channels of CCP. I also never said Goons should be banned, nor was asked directly why I think they should be (and I never said they should be). I implied that they are viewed as a whole, and act immaturely, and may be dealt with as a group for such a reason, yes; and that is pure speculation on my part, I admit.
But if the past serves as an indicator of future behavior, then future outrages would tend to be supported by many other members of GoonSwarm, would you not concur?
Or, to put it another way; if, for instance, BoB was found to have done something to cause ire to somebody, and it caused a drama, would you not expect BoB to coalesce as a group and either support or kick members involved? If over time, such instances were occuring often enough, where would one draw the line at practices that disrupt business flow? That is where I am getting at- that GoonSwarm, though inventive as a group, will eventually overstep their boundaries in attempting to ruin enough of other players gameplay, that CCP may be forced to take action against a group of players with a strong common bond, rather than individually and over time (which could cause more drama and more damage).

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Originally by: Kage Toshimado

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I think if this ever happened (which we all know it won't) then we should turn mining barges into floating Carebears with mining lasers for c**ks.

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Originally by: Tress Macneille

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Edited by: Tress Macneille on 05/06/2008 07:10:36
Hello Assembly Hall, how are you. I am Tress Macneille, world famous VA and animated actress. I come before you today to suggest that, although titans generally speaking look alright, there is definitely room for improvement. Beyond their scale, which is of course huge, they really do not evoke the proper sense of menace or power that I feel they should. As such I here propose that every in game titan model be replaced with a model of the monster truck Gravedigger, pictured below

Such a replacement would bestow titans with a truly fearsome battle aesthetic, reminding all on grid with them that they are sharing space with the mightiest weapon ever constructed by man, Gravedigger. Even the most jaded and experienced 0.0 veterans of New Eden would be filled with a sudden and animating urge to right click and orbit these wondrous ships, at once frightening and awing all around them. Every in game alliance would rush to construct these space faring jagdpanthers, these mechanical behemoths, these monstrous auto-mo-trucks of the stars, and provide new incentive for people to endure the awful, laggy mess we know as POS warfare.

In conclusion: Gravedigger rules, McCain 08, Jade Constantine's a little baby, PEACE OUT YALL

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