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Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:16:00 -
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Kaela Grimm wrote:" I recently left because my corporation did not approve of my PvE playstyle" And http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Azemar#lossesThat's your reason why. You're just someone that likes to sponge off your alliance's space and lower their kb efficiency . I don't think you can see the entry or who made it, but I imagine it was the last corp you were in that blacklisted you for the alliance because you contribute **** all. There's nothing wrong with PVE'ing in null. That's one of the main reasons why people are out there (besides the gudfites) ; but if it's all you do and you don't do anything else to contribute to your alliance then you might as well be running missions in high sec by yourself.
Cause Eve is all about numbers on a KB and not about hanging out and having fun with friends, blowing chit up, whatever. Any corp/alliance more worried about their KB numbers than playing the game isn't worth the code they are printed on. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
328
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Posted - 2012.04.19 20:18:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Cause Eve is all about numbers on a KB and not about hanging out and having fun with friends, blowing chit up, whatever. Any corp/alliance more worried about their KB numbers than playing the game isn't worth the code they are printed on.
No. Nullsec is about holding the field and winning the war of attrition.
However, it is blatantly obvious that the OP doesn't contribute to holding the field and is helping the alliance lose the war of attrition. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Azemar
Order of the Silver Dragons Eternal Evocations
3
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:29:00 -
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Forgive the necro guys, the issue has long been resolved.
But just to clarify, this thread was made solely to ask why i was blacklisted, because it was done unjustly and screwed me over. I have come to see how only ratting barely contributes and have changed to a more industry focused playstyle to benefit my alliance.
I only made this thread because TEST gave me no opportunity (by blacklisting me for no reason) to change my playstyle. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
610
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:43:00 -
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Azemar wrote:Forgive the necro guys, the issue has long been resolved.
But just to clarify, this thread was made solely to ask why i was blacklisted, because it was done unjustly and screwed me over. I have come to see how only ratting barely contributes and have changed to a more industry focused playstyle to benefit my alliance.
I only made this thread because TEST gave me no opportunity (by blacklisting me for no reason) to change my playstyle. It's a good lesson for everyone. Most sov holders have similar requirements. At the very least you should have a few fleet BS on hand for ops. However, you might join a pet alliance of some kind. They don't contribute to sov holding other than to pay their monthly dues, and the heavy lifting is in turn provided by the main sov holding alliance. It's the same playstyle you want to have now. You just wouldn't get to tell people you are in an a**-kicking alliance... you'd have to be satisfied with the label 'pet'. Still, it nets out and you get what you want. Should be an easy fix... just not sure if TEST even has pets. I would think they would eat them if bored. Or screw them over in some other way... if bored. Pretty much you don't want to be around TEST when they get bored, is a good rule of thumb.
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Lovelocke
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
88
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:55:00 -
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Quote:It's a good lesson for everyone. Most sov holders have similar requirements. At the very least you should have a few fleet BS on hand for ops. However, you might join a pet alliance of some kind. They don't contribute to sov holding other than to pay their monthly dues, and the heavy lifting is in turn provided by the main sov holding alliance. It's the same playstyle you want to have now. You just wouldn't get to tell people you are in an a**-kicking alliance... you'd have to be satisfied with the label 'pet'. Still, it nets out and you get what you want. Should be an easy fix... just not sure if TEST even has pets. I would think they would eat them if bored. Or screw them over in some other way... if bored. Pretty much you don't want to be around TEST when they get bored, is a good rule of thumb.
A pet is a small alliance living on the good graces of a larger alliance, what you're talking about is a renter. Even "pet" alliances are expected to contribute and as such PvE only players still wouldn't be the right member for them.
TEST doesn't have renters and officially speaking we don't have pets. We do have "Fountain allies" who are blue to us and not the CFC as a whole. Generally speaking we treat these Fountain allies very well even when they're being terrible.
And Azemar, once again, your blacklist is only "advisory". It is only on the blacklist register because we don't have any other inter-coalition noticeboard and it does not prevent other corps in the CFC from recruiting you. But, it's good to see you're rethinking your playstyle. I wish you the best of luck. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
610
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:59:00 -
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Lovelocke wrote:Quote:It's a good lesson for everyone. Most sov holders have similar requirements. At the very least you should have a few fleet BS on hand for ops. However, you might join a pet alliance of some kind. They don't contribute to sov holding other than to pay their monthly dues, and the heavy lifting is in turn provided by the main sov holding alliance. It's the same playstyle you want to have now. You just wouldn't get to tell people you are in an a**-kicking alliance... you'd have to be satisfied with the label 'pet'. Still, it nets out and you get what you want. Should be an easy fix... just not sure if TEST even has pets. I would think they would eat them if bored. Or screw them over in some other way... if bored. Pretty much you don't want to be around TEST when they get bored, is a good rule of thumb. A pet is a small alliance living on the good graces of a larger alliance, what you're talking about is a renter. Even "pet" alliances are expected to contribute and as such PvE only players still wouldn't be the right member for them. TEST doesn't have renters and officially speaking we don't have pets. We do have "Fountain allies" who are blue to us and not the CFC as a whole. Generally speaking we treat these Fountain allies very well even when they're being terrible. And Azemar, once again, your blacklist is only "advisory". It is only on the blacklist register because we don't have any other inter-coalition noticeboard and it does not prevent other corps in the CFC from recruiting you. But, it's good to see you're rethinking your playstyle. I wish you the best of luck. My bad. Good info...
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
204
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Posted - 2012.04.19 22:13:00 -
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You can do as you please in null, most alliances are pretty cool about that. Some are nice enough to let you do some carebear **** in high-sec once in a while.
However, when you don't jump into a PVP capable ship when you hear that there are some potential threats near your system then you are just a liability.
Also, how do you manage to get blown up while ratting in an alliance that holds Sov? I'd understand if you were in lowsec or NPC null but I would imagine that a person would at least rat a few systems behind TEST's lines of defense. A 19 man gang getting into TEST and blowing up a battleship probably means you were ratting on the front lines. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
636
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:01:00 -
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Azemar wrote:I know right! Why cant i just enjoy plexing and getting deadspace lootz? We see your true colors shining through....guys....whatta troll. He knows why, and he caught a line of suckers. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
234
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Posted - 2012.04.20 16:22:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Azemar wrote:I know right! Why cant i just enjoy plexing and getting deadspace lootz? We see your true colors shining through....guys....whatta troll. He knows why, and he caught a line of suckers.
Stop stirring.
Now read the original post and forget the rest as the rest are more likely to be defensive in nature. |

Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.04.20 17:08:00 -
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All I'm seeing is the OP is a dirty sponging bear who contributes bugger all.
And your wondering why you're black listed? For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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