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Rual Storge
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Posted - 2004.05.10 13:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Trezerami
Its obviously time for a server split. Surely its time for choas for the griefers and tranqaulity for the care bears.
Lets see where the money lies.....
Why not you call it Ultima peice of crap Online. I used to friggin love that game til they made damned Trammel I NEVER EVER WANNA HEAR THIS DUMB POS IDEA AGAIN!
Rual Storge, Battlestars, CEO |
Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.05.10 14:18:00 -
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A server split would prolly get me off of EVE entirely. Bad idea.
If you're so heavy carebear you can't hack PvP, STAY IN EMPIRE SPACE.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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ThunderChicken
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Posted - 2004.05.10 14:41:00 -
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How about this: Instead of CONCORD just showing up whenever there is a conflict in secure space, that you would have to actively call them to show. Unless they are near to NPC or other static objects, such as stations, jump gates etc.
This system would allow for more combat within Empire, but also give the option for carebears to dial 911, if combat is not what they are looking for.
It is a matter of consentual content that people want. I say let people resolve their own problems, and not resort to the cops, unless they feel that they are not up to the task. Sure, there could be some potential problems with this system, perhaps scale the response time according to the system.
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Mned Graydroggen
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Posted - 2004.05.10 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mned Graydroggen on 10/05/2004 14:53:15
I think Jazz Bo has expained it best why a server split would be dissasterous.
The miners need ppl who use the minerals they mine so they can keep mining.
The producers need ppl who destroy the stuff they build so they can keep building.
The destructors need ppl who build the stuff they destroy so they can keep destroying.
Brahman
Vishnu
Shiva
Its as simple as that. Take one of the three out of the circle and the system collapses.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.05.10 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Neko Makai
I dont think EVE has hit korean market or chinese market hard maybe cuz lack of korean and chinese launguage in it? I mean, if EVE wasnt in my language id be relucatant to play it. Also maybe when EVE gets more widespread it can afford for a commercial release in US stores thus adding more players to the servers. Oh btw, koreans love RPGs even if they prefer Hack and SLash i bet they will go nuts for the PvP here.
(First of all, not making any wild generalizations based on race/ethnicity. I'm sure there are some great Korean gamers out there)
After playing the Beta for Lineage II, I honestly hope the Korean market doesn't embrace Eve. I have never seen such horrific cheating/griefing as I did in that game. CCP would need to get a lot more GM's before going into that market.
BTW Eve WAS Released in stores already. The publisher, SSI, isn't around anymore, so the boxed distribution stopped. I bought Eve for $50 personally... (no regrets either :D)
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XKittyX
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Posted - 2004.05.10 15:47:00 -
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Err why exactly? There is no point to this. Nothing to gain from it at all. I can happily run the game on a 56k modem, there is no lag. I havent had any problems with their being too may people - the more people the more interesting the economy becomes and it creates more opportunities for everyone.
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2004.05.10 16:21:00 -
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I think Vishnu and Shiva are two of the 3 forms of the same Godhead in Hinduism. Brahmen is the Indian Priest caste.
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HaulerGuy
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Posted - 2004.05.10 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: HaulerGuy on 10/05/2004 16:37:28
My idea would be that rather than all the four empires being next to each other.
I suggest that they each be surrounded by a certain amount 0.0 space with no/few choke points and if you want to trade between empires you're gonna have to make high risk / high reward runs across 0.0 space this would encourage empire pricing diveristy and perhaps incentivise people to get into 0.0 more with player convoys etc.
Not so much sharding the server as sharding the empires
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.05.10 16:39:00 -
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I'm completely unconvinced that there should be a server split. I read every since post and no one gave any remotely reasonable reasons why it should be, and many great reasons why it should remain the same.
Boggles the freakin' mind.
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LocalHost
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Posted - 2004.05.10 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Trezerami
Its obviously time for a server split. Surely its time for choas for the griefers and tranqaulity for the care bears.
Lets see where the money lies.....
You must have been dropped on your head as a child.... 
|Father of 1|Master of All| |
Swift
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Posted - 2004.05.10 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Swift on 10/05/2004 19:06:09
Quote:
The miners need ppl who use the minerals they mine so they can keep mining.
The producers need ppl who destroy the stuff they build so they can keep building.
The destructors need ppl who build the stuff they destroy so they can keep destroying.
Brahman
Vishnu
Shiva
Its as simple as that. Take one of the three out of the circle and the system collapses
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Pretty good - its actually Brahma (not sure where the 'n' came into play but its not ever pronounced.. a mistake made often in the West) and still, the big Three so to speak are as as you said:
Brahma: Creator (not widely worshipped in India)
Vishnu: Protector (the deity that took the form of Rama and more widely known, Krishna... may be familiar with the religious sect known as the Hare Krishnas who worship this deity mostly  )
and
==> Shiva <==  The Destroyer (widely worshipped, even though he has what can be percieved as a negative title, is actually thought to be more 'soft hearted' than the others, evne if he has the temper that can end the world).
Swift <== Hindu  Still the triumverate idea is a fun one, even if most people here are not familiar with the Hindu religion ;) Lil bit of trivia since someone brought it up and the update is named after 'Him'...
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Amonstar
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Posted - 2004.05.10 20:34:00 -
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Looks like it the PVPers, Pirates and griefers who are against a split. You say for reasons of "fun"?
If you call killing a player with 10,000,000 less skill points than you, outnumbered 10 to 1 pvp then I say that alone warrants a server split.
I think CCP should really consider a non PVP server to play on. I think they would double their players base again if they did.
Call it what you like but its far from fair when 5 battleships jump you and kill you. If thatÆs what you call PVP then I want no part of it. I call it being PUNKS.
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Mned Graydroggen
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Posted - 2004.05.10 21:44:00 -
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Quote:
its actually Brahma (not sure where the 'n' came into play but its not ever pronounced.. a mistake made often in the West)
sry bout that  Typo, should have been an H instead of N, But gues that would still be wrong
(mere european, not familiar with hindu spelling  )
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Shauna
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Posted - 2004.05.10 22:46:00 -
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bah, I think sharding would be bad eve.
The way everything is set up they can retain the single 'shard' look to the game. Systems can be divided up onto compute nodes to balance the load compute-wise.
Eve also has a pretty good feel for balancing PVP and non-PVP. If you don't like pvp, stay in .5 and higher space. CCP has shown themselves to be pretty tenacious about keeping that pretty safe. If you want pvp, the vast majority of the systems are .4 and lower... back in beta I think more than 50% of the systems were 0.0 even! If you want to fight, there's lots of places to fight.
I like how that is all set up... the only way I would think that would be an acceptible way for Eve to shard would be if they were to add a whole 2nd galaxy (maybe servers in the US?) and perhaps some kind of large hyper-gate or something that would allow travel between galaxy-to-galaxy or something. |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.05.10 23:02:00 -
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There will be no server split no matter how much you whine. Have a nice day.
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Neko Makai
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Posted - 2004.05.10 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amonstar
Looks like it the PVPers, Pirates and griefers who are against a split. You say for reasons of "fun"?
If you call killing a player with 10,000,000 less skill points than you, outnumbered 10 to 1 pvp then I say that alone warrants a server split.
I think CCP should really consider a non PVP server to play on. I think they would double their players base again if they did.
Call it what you like but its far from fair when 5 battleships jump you and kill you. If thatÆs what you call PVP then I want no part of it. I call it being PUNKS.
And all the carebears want a shard. Tell mister carebear, if there was no PVPing, who would buy ur wares? How would you claim territory in space when ur poor crok or arkonor is literally blasted away by 30 Bs camping every belt 12 AM GMT. I may not be a pirater, but through the back talk and smack i yell to pirates. Deep down i respect em cuz they keep the game interesting. There is no greater rush being chased by 2-3 pirates at time, then having ur buddies warp in and ambush their asses. Tell me, what do u hope to do as a sole non-combat individual where noone loses ships and everyone is selling them? If u want to just be a carebear and BUILD BUILD go play ATITD, lest its alot more fun then mindlessly mining for hours just so u can say u have 1000000 BSs which are totally useless.
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svetlana
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Posted - 2004.05.10 23:39:00 -
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never split - EVER.
every few months some tard comes on here and makes this same stupid post.
listen UP. from day one release of this game it was designed to be one universe ONLY- that is one of the major selling points of eve.
this game is also is the only one which dares combine all game styles into the same universe with no clear seperation, an actual functioning universe of players who survive daily in the security of friends or in terror of indescriminate death. eve can be as gentle or harsh a game as you want to make it- everything you do in eve has more meaning since real players are allowed to affect each other to such a degree, it is one universe we all share so everything you do has more meaning and is more rewarding.
from a technical standpoint the code is designed from the beginning to handle over 100k players.
ccp adds server nodes and adjusts the code as more folks join up.
if you don't like this game then get the hell out and play something else.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.05.11 00:27:00 -
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This thread sucks. |
MooKids
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Posted - 2004.05.11 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Amonstar
I think CCP should really consider a non PVP server to play on. I think they would double their players base again if they did.
You want to make it a MINING SIM!?!?
Cause that is all it would accomplish.
And no way in hell would something like that double the numbers in this game.
I declare this thread needs to be locked!
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Elizar
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Posted - 2004.05.11 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Trezerami
Originally by: Viceroy
Your point is invalid. EVE is not any other multiplayer game.
You are right. A project with much potential, but this time around....missed
What your saying reminds me of a little situation like this:
There is a room that is illuminated 100% by one standard light bulb.
You are saying there should now be a second standard light bulb installed into the same room.
If this analogy is correct, your stupid. The room (or rather the game) is illuminated (operating) at 100%. There are only around 10k max players on at the same time, and this single server is prepared to support an additional ninety (90) thousand players at the same time.
More servers = more money PLUS a divided community. Furthermore, your comments saying that eve missed its target is totally flawed. Since day one of EVE becoming public from its website its stated it strives to become the first MMORPG operating in æone persistent universeÆ i.e. one server.
In my opinion, and what looks like a lot of other peoples opinion as well, your not exactly right for this type of game play and should find another game...IÆd recommend earth and beyond, but that's going down the tubes this September!
Cheers,
eli
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.05.11 07:06:00 -
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Edited by: FoRGyL on 11/05/2004 07:10:35
Originally by: Amonstar
Looks like it the PVPers, Pirates and griefers who are against a split. You say for reasons of "fun"?
If you call killing a player with 10,000,000 less skill points than you, outnumbered 10 to 1 pvp then I say that alone warrants a server split.
I think CCP should really consider a non PVP server to play on. I think they would double their players base again if they did.
Call it what you like but its far from fair when 5 battleships jump you and kill you. If that’s what you call PVP then I want no part of it. I call it being PUNKS.
Think their are other games for u out there SIM or som,,,donno
what,,,but this game should be as free as possible.
Perhaps u can ask them to make a new game instead?
Keep EVE as free as possible More value = More risk 
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.05.11 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Slithereen on 11/05/2004 08:00:32
Originally by: Gan Howorth
I think Vishnu and Shiva are two of the 3 forms of the same Godhead in Hinduism. Brahmen is the Indian Priest caste.
Brahma is the Creator
Vishnu is the Preserver
Shiva is the Destroyer
Personally I think this games suits both Creators (Researchers, Manufacturers, Miners) and Destroyers (PvPers) fine. If you look at the bigger picture, there is a cyclical Zen/Tao in this game where both creation and destruction feed on each other. Both are mutually interdependent.
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.05.11 08:02:00 -
[113]
NeverÖ
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.05.11 09:39:00 -
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Hijacking, Trolling, Insults and uhm ... cookies!
There will be no server split. Nuff said.
Thread locked.
You can still have more cookies tho.
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