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Kadisha Cid
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Posted - 2008.06.06 21:21:00 -
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i know this is probaly a total pc Mewb question.
however i can't figure it out
a few eeeks ago i took my front case cover off to clean my pc out. I already tried turning it back on with out teh front of the case on however it just turns it's seld back off after a few sec. I got my front case back on however it's not quite on correctly because about 4 out fo 5 times i turn my pc on it turns back off. I have already tried putting my front of my case back on a few times i jsut don't have it right.
I have been told that there is a setting to allow you to run you pc with out the front case cover on however i can not find it.
please include a diot's guide in your responces because i am truely clueless with pc's
P.s. i have a HP
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Kadisha Cid
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Posted - 2008.06.06 21:21:00 -
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i know this is probaly a total pc Mewb question.
however i can't figure it out
a few eeeks ago i took my front case cover off to clean my pc out. I already tried turning it back on with out teh front of the case on however it just turns it's seld back off after a few sec. I got my front case back on however it's not quite on correctly because about 4 out fo 5 times i turn my pc on it turns back off. I have already tried putting my front of my case back on a few times i jsut don't have it right.
I have been told that there is a setting to allow you to run you pc with out the front case cover on however i can not find it.
please include a diot's guide in your responces because i am truely clueless with pc's
P.s. i have a HP
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Gneeznow
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.06 21:24:00 -
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its probably a grounding wire on the power button, look for steel connections between the chassis and the front plasticky bit, and use a piece of wire or something to complete the circuit..
I'm really bad at explaining stuff maybe someone else can say it more clearly though.
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Gneeznow
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.06 21:24:00 -
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its probably a grounding wire on the power button, look for steel connections between the chassis and the front plasticky bit, and use a piece of wire or something to complete the circuit..
I'm really bad at explaining stuff maybe someone else can say it more clearly though.
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GhostXile
Black Screen of Death
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.07 07:46:00 -
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Try this m8!!
Computer without case!
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Fink Angel
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.06.07 07:49:00 -
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Does you HP have some sort of intrusion detection switch? There is likely a small push switch somewhere below the case facia that is pressed in when the case is shut.
I've seen this before on corporate type PCs ... Dell, Compaq, HP.
Post your HP model type and we can tell for sure.
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GhostXile
Black Screen of Death
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.06.07 07:52:00 -
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Edited by: GhostXile on 07/06/2008 07:52:40
Sorry my post was mean. tbh I really don't know..but I do know this..On newer dells such as mine, I run mine with my case open. I don't seem to have a problem.
GX
edit --> which means nothing to you coz I didn't read properly..I see you have an HP..!! 
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annoing
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.07 08:51:00 -
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Sometimes, in the bios, there is a 'detect case' setting. This could be part of your problem, however, it could also be, as already mentioned, a electrical groundig problem.
Dwi Cymraig
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.06.07 10:25:00 -
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A friend had the same problem, turned out his case was shorting out the motherboard. I took the case off, connected the buttons directly to the mainboard and that is how it runs to this day.
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Miki Fin
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2008.06.07 12:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Kadisha Cid
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i know this is probaly a total pc Mewb question.
however i can't figure it out
a few eeeks ago i took my front case cover off to clean my pc out. I already tried turning it back on with out teh front of the case on however it just turns it's seld back off after a few sec. I got my front case back on however it's not quite on correctly because about 4 out fo 5 times i turn my pc on it turns back off. I have already tried putting my front of my case back on a few times i jsut don't have it right.
I have been told that there is a setting to allow you to run you pc with out the front case cover on however i can not find it.
please include a diot's guide in your responces because i am truely clueless with pc's
P.s. i have a HP
When you say you cleaned the pc out, what did you actually clean and how?
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Kadisha Cid
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Posted - 2008.06.07 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
Sometimes, in the bios, there is a 'detect case' setting. This could be part of your problem, however, it could also be, as already mentioned, a electrical groundig problem.
this is what i ws told before however i have no ide how to acess my "bios" is order to turn off that option. Could you please explain ???
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Kadisha Cid
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Posted - 2008.06.07 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kadisha Cid on 07/06/2008 15:28:18
Originally by: Miki Fin
Originally by: Kadisha Cid
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i know this is probaly a total pc Mewb question.
however i can't figure it out
a few eeeks ago i took my front case cover off to clean my pc out. I already tried turning it back on with out teh front of the case on however it just turns it's seld back off after a few sec. I got my front case back on however it's not quite on correctly because about 4 out fo 5 times i turn my pc on it turns back off. I have already tried putting my front of my case back on a few times i jsut don't have it right.
I have been told that there is a setting to allow you to run you pc with out the front case cover on however i can not find it.
please include a diot's guide in your responces because i am truely clueless with pc's
P.s. i have a HP
When you say you cleaned the pc out, what did you actually clean and how?
i just took the front cover off and used a can of air to blow all teh dust off.
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Kadisha Cid
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Posted - 2008.06.07 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Does you HP have some sort of intrusion detection switch? There is likely a small push switch somewhere below the case facia that is pressed in when the case is shut.
I've seen this before on corporate type PCs ... Dell, Compaq, HP.
Post your HP model type and we can tell for sure.
HP Pavilion a530n
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annoing
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:36:00 -
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To access bios, simply keep pressing the 'delete' as it starts to boot up. When in bios you will see different main options inside of which are all the choices to make. As most bios's are different depending on the computer there is no point in me telling you where your 'case' option is. However, use the internet to search HP for your computer and look at the manual they will have online (thats if they didnt give you one when you got the computer).
Dwi Cymraig
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Kyrall
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
To access bios, simply keep pressing the 'delete' as it starts to boot up. When in bios you will see different main options inside of which are all the choices to make. As most bios's are different depending on the computer there is no point in me telling you where your 'case' option is. However, use the internet to search HP for your computer and look at the manual they will have online (thats if they didnt give you one when you got the computer).
The button(s) you have to press also vary with different motherboards. It could be F1, F2, F10, delete, esc...
This site lists them.
- Originally by: Kyrall
Pfft antivirus? Real men use a hard drive tank.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.06.07 17:30:00 -
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If you are completely clueless you may want to think about two things:
1) Do you want to learn about how to fix your PC?
2) Are you willing to maybe break it in order to learn? (As you may have done now).
If the answer to either of those questions is no - then you may want to take the PC back to the place you bought it, explain the problem and pay them to fix it for you.
I've been building my own systems from components for 25 years. I've learned a lot and made my career out of being a systems administrator. All this because I liked doing it. Still, every now and again, I'd break something. That was all just part of the process. It didn't happen often but it did happen. So, if you aren't willing to risk breaking things let someone do it for you. Some vendors have PC Tune Up's they offer.
Now as to your problem.
1) You typically have one or two side panels that can be taken off and left off to help cool the machine. It is rare however for a PC to be operated with the front panel off as this is where all your controls are.
2) You may however have an Interlock switch that has to be depressed when a front or side panel is taken off in order for the PC to run. Typically this will be a little plastic, spring loaded spike. Look around on your front and side panels for such a spring loaded spike. If you push in on it, it should spring back. As you put the cover back on, look to see if the cover interacts with something like this. If it does - then your problem may be related to this Interlock. If you don't see something like that then you may not have a Case Open Switch. Most PC's don't. Also, you can go to the web site for your PC or look at the manual that came with it to see if there is a case open switch.
3) Make sure that all the little wires that were connected to something when you took that front panel off are still connected. Usually, it is a bad idea to take the front panel all the way off just to blow it out. Just pull the thing open enough to blast it. If you did undo any of the little wires connecting the front panel to the mother board, make sure you fully reconnected them. Specifically your power switch. Also make sure you didn't break anything. If there are any little pieces of plastic laying about or a switch that feels loose, that's not a good sign. I broke a mounting point for a power switch once and had to fix it by wedging the switch into place with a tiny wad of cardboard.
4) If your PC is an HP then you might call the HP Tech Support Line and see what they have to say about it. Depending on the circumstances under which you bought your PC they may or may not charge you for this phone call. If you have managed to create this problem for yourself - you are probably not the first one to do it. The HP guy can walk you through what you need to do to fix it over the phone - which we aren't going to be able to do here.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.06.07 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
2) You may however have an Interlock switch that has to be depressed when a front or side panel is taken off in order for the PC to run. Typically this will be a little plastic, spring loaded spike. Look around on your front and side panels for such a spring loaded spike. If you push in on it, it should spring back. As you put the cover back on, look to see if the cover interacts with something like this. If it does - then your problem may be related to this Interlock. If you don't see something like that then you may not have a Case Open Switch. Most PC's don't. Also, you can go to the web site for your PC or look at the manual that came with it to see if there is a case open switch.
Compaq (now HP) servers used to have this. Taking off the cover disabled the power. In that case the machine literally would not power up. Putting the cover back on depressed a switch allowing it to run. When we would be working on them this was nothing but annoying. We'd take the cap to a Bic pen and jam it in the switch so we could work on the machine with the cover off. Worked pretty well. Then one day we had a Compaq tech out and he had this little plastic key which fit perfectly in the slot and locked in so the machine could operate with the case off. Myself and several other techs there started plotting on rolling the guy when he left to steal that key. 
Anyway, I have not seen those power disabling switches in ages. Kind of thought PC manufacturers figured they didn't help anything and just annoyed people. Additionally I have never seen one that let the machine start anyway and then shut down. With the cover off the PC just would not power up if it had that kill switch.
Been awhile though since I was rummaging around in dozens of different PCs to fix them. Just deal with my own and a few servers these days.
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