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Nervar	Posted - 2004.05.11 21:52:00 - [61] Edited by: Nervar on 12/05/2004 01:31:02 Edited by: Nervar on 11/05/2004 22:39:56 --Update on the events inn Syndicate/cloudring today-- TDG/BNCL/Teddy's Today went on another killing spre. We roamed the Norads space lanes and killed off their batlleships that where scattered and waiting for reinfocments. Loot alone recovered from this can bee valued to over 100 mill (meta large weapons/launchers and various tech2 modules. Their 2 fleets finnaly managed to merge inn the RL system and the batlle was on. Norad forces: 9+ bs and numerous frigates/interceptors and more on the way TDG/BNCL/Teddy forces: 7 BS After undeniable being beaten on the ecm side Our forces mangaged to take down 2 confirmed BS kill and 3-4 frigates at the gate in RL. The batlle was turning out to be won when one off our pilots made the fatall mistake off warping to their moon, where they where gathering after fleeing from the batlle field. Our pilot found himself smack down inn the midlle off 6 BS and was killed rather fast. We answered the distress call and warped(mistake) there where one more off our pilots met his doom due to the fact that he had 15% structure and some shield Our third loss was due to the fact that Tenhaca never managed to load up hes creen at the gate All inn all: Norad losses inn total during the day: 10 BS numerous frigates/interceptors TDG/BNCL/Teddy losses: 3BS Now again i urge Norad to pay the rather low demand we have made. Itwill pay off over the course off 2-3 weeks Btw Black Nova corp ceo's, if your corp want to remain respected for good behaviour inn local before/after/ fights you should try and have a talk with Thaibog. Nothing sensible comes out off hes mouth other than unplesantrys, smack and bad language. k edited it for you, should bee easier to understand now updated with more kills +1 -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
Triniton	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:02:00 - [62] Good job Tundragons and co. ! :] ZOMBIE PRUNES!
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:27:00 - [63] Originally by: Triniton Good job Tundragons and co. ! :] i must find a way to steal your toupe and sunglasses, wait they remind me of something
Powder	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:29:00 - [64] How does 2 confirmed BS losses become 9? or you talking about over the course of the while day?
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:35:00 - [65] Originally by: Powder How does 2 confirmed BS losses become 9? or you talking about over the course of the while day? I think he meant during the course of the day, as when I logged on they mentioned some bs kills.....the way he wrote it doesnt make any sense P.S. Ive never been really ****ed off about loosing a ship ever, but today is a first----Tenacha Khan is not a happy bunny I suppose after downtime Ill have rebooted myself and be in a more productive mood
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:38:00 - [66] Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 11/05/2004 22:57:19 double post
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:54:00 - [67] That's certainly an impressive day's shooting if you did take out 9 BS, I have to say I'm highly surprised by that number but when I get home from work perhaps I can validate it. Have fun in space :) Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.11 22:59:00 - [68] Originally by: Nervar Btw Black Nova corp ceo's, if your corp want to remain respected for good behaviour inn local before/after/ fights you should try and have a talk with Thaibog. Nothing sensible comes out off hes mouth other than unplesantrys, smack and bad language. If that's the case it'll be dealt with. BNC/HMMI try to fight with a degree of gentlemanly respect for our opponents and if that's not happening I'll sort it. Normally we're pretty good on this front so my apologies if any of our pilots were not living up to the ideal today. Usually the only one of us who smack talks is me for about 2 drunken minutes just before I pass out at the keyboard! Eve Blacklight Style
Rthor	Posted - 2004.05.11 23:19:00 - [69] Edited by: Rthor on 11/05/2004 23:21:33 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Nervar Usually the only one of us who smack talks is me for about 2 drunken minutes just before I pass out at the keyboard! Yup. I got some good emails from Blacklight when he was drunk. This is funny stuff.
Lifewire	Posted - 2004.05.11 23:21:00 - [70] Norad: ///// ///// ///// ///// ///// // Player-rats: /// Since we lost 3 BS including my beloved blood-sprenkled tempest the price to make us move to another region is now 2.000.000.000 ISK. Still cheap if you take a look at all the BS-losses and the countless indys, frigs and cruisers we toasted in 10 days. To make this deal even more intresting for you i propose that Norad can decide wich region we should move to A clever businessman should calculate. Your alliance will fall back if you look at other alliances that make money left alone in peace. Be sure we wont leave without finishing our job or with filled wallets.
Rthor	Posted - 2004.05.11 23:32:00 - [71] The thing about Norad is that even if you have this kill ratio that you have it will not stop them. They will just recruit more people to join their alliance. They have crammed so many people into Outer Ring that you cannot do much about it by killing them. They will always have some more fresh, idealistic, enthusiastic people who are new to being in a 0.0 alliance and who are ready to die fighting you. You just have to wait until Norad implodes if you want them gone. Otherwise you can continue to kill them until you run out of ammo. I hope that the above does not stop Tundragon from fighting Norad. Some people I like might not like it if I were to discourage attacks on Norad. I actually dont care any more about Outer Ring and their politics but this is my 2 cents about what is up there and its free advice.
Luna	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:03:00 - [72] I generally don't care for pirates but when it is pirate vs pirate that is an awesome battle!!!! Wipe Norad out of the Outer Ring...... Great Job btw.... hope the slaughtering continues.... We had a few of Norad crying for a cease fire with our corp but its more fun to waste them.... In a weeks time we had an incredible kill ratio vs them.... now with you guys hitting them hard I bet some of the miners will pack it in and head back to empire. I hope they don't station park like they do with us alot and not fight. I think that is the worst thing in war with them, alot of times we will be outnumbered and they just don't undock. They use hidden belts in a2v6 to mine arknor unmolested and a few jumps out of 4C is a decent bship spwan where you can find them... Indy battling is a blast when you get to haul back their hard earned ark, crok, bist, and whatever else they haul around... GO TunDragon kick some nonad butt.... Nonad has given me hours of entertaining game time.... keep up the good work.... Luna...... laying pipe with Geeklab...... smacking Nonad upside the head with the same pipe...
Rira Vanga	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:09:00 - [73] Rthor: bored in Geeklab? Luna: you have nice dreams honey :) Shame is that Tundragons are most honorable then you in Geeklab :) Member of NORAD / PVP DB
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:12:00 - [74] rofl, look at the Geeks and ex-Geeks come crawling out of the woodwork spinning their spin and believing it! I can see this thread will plummet downhill fast now, time to start ignoring it. Eve Blacklight Style
Neo Ghost	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:12:00 - [75] OMG Luna your too funny. Quote: I generally don't care for pirates but when it is pirate vs pirate that is an awesome battle!!!! Um ok NORAD are not pirates... And about the CF you guys came to us not us to you... Wake up and smell the coffee...
Luna	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:17:00 - [76] Edited by: Luna on 12/05/2004 00:20:57 r u fantasizing that we have not killed more than you ???? whatever.... our kill board is far greater and we have proven even a tiny force can wipe the smirk off your faces.... looking 4ward to our next skirmish unless TunDragon chases Nonad off... pirate vs pirate.... read the posts many corps feel you guys are nothing more than pirates... hell alot of your players have neg sec status.... isnt rohann part of bnc?
Rthor	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Blacklight rofl, look at the Geeks and ex-Geeks come crawling out of the woodwork spinning their spin and believing it! Come on Blacklight no name calling. I still think that you are more mature than that. Correct me if I am wrong though, Blacklight. I suppose that I am the ex-Geeklab that you speak of. When Tranquility Drinkers Club got kicked out of OR with you as its leader, did not you and your corp run back to OR immediately when Black Nova started an anti-Geeklab uprising there? So basically when you were ex-ORS (outer ring society) you still meddled in OR politics. So why cant Geeklab or ex-Geeklab enjoy it when Tundragon is fighting you now? How can you criticize me with a straight face? Also, Chon guys should not say anything at all about honor.
Crean NaVar	Posted - 2004.05.12 00:38:00 - [78] Edited by: Crean NaVar on 12/05/2004 00:46:44 Ah, finally found you. But where is the rest of your posts? This can¦t be all you wrote in the time you are logging off from the game because the odds are not in your favor for a moment. Maybe sometime we will ransom you for some isk, so you can come online again and actually play the game you¦re paying for. And btw: I¦m sure Nervar was just logging off at the gate in 3knk , before he even uncloaked, because he forgot to post something very important. Lame. Apart from this, very nice and clean fight today, gentlemen. I¦m looking forward to the next battle. @ Sypher313: Who are you and when do i have the chance to see you in OR for the first time? @ Rhtor: Good decision to leave Geeklab, but now stay out of this conflict plz. @ Luna: Wtf are you smoking? I can¦t believe that you still believe all the lies your great master is telling you. Wake up man.
Nervar	Posted - 2004.05.12 01:29:00 - [79] Oy stay out off our thread -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
Rthor	Posted - 2004.05.12 01:36:00 - [80] Sorry you are right. I am retired. It's Blacklight's fault anyway. But it will not happen again.
Neo Ghost	Posted - 2004.05.12 01:39:00 - [81] Quote: pirate vs pirate.... read the posts many corps feel you guys are nothing more than pirates... hell alot of your players have neg sec status.... isnt rohann part of bnc? No rohann isnt in BNC and just because some1 has a neg status doesnt make them a pirate...
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.12 02:27:00 - [82] Originally by: Rthor When Tranquility Drinkers Club got kicked out of OR with you as its leader, did not you and your corp run back to OR immediately when Black Nova started an anti-Geeklab uprising there? So basically when you were ex-ORS (outer ring society) you still meddled in OR politics. So why cant Geeklab or ex-Geeklab enjoy it when Tundragon is fighting you now? How can you criticize me with a straight face? The Anti-Geeklab movement was started primarily by Lungorthin and Kiruren of TDC in response to yur CEO's unreasonable behaviour, frequent lies and rule by fear. We were never kicked out of ORS and the actual split that resulted in ORS's death and NORAD's rise were started by the following 3.5 minutes of Outer Ring history in an exchange between me and your CEO, the then self proclaimed leader of ORS. Key points in this exchange which should adequately correct your wrongness on this issue being that a) I was the public spokesperson for about 8-10 ORS corps who wanted your boss gone and b) I think you'll see the then CEO of BNC supporting me rather than me having to do any running back to BNC's support. [ 2003.12.15 23:44:18 ] Blacklight > I've been a very strong support of umlat and the ORS, the ORS is a great team with some great people in it and for that reason I've been very supportive of making it succesful [ 2003.12.15 23:44:24 ] Dieselboy > what's your objective umlat? [ 2003.12.15 23:44:38 ] Crow > just so that we all know exactly what we are signing up for [ 2003.12.15 23:44:46 ] umlat > my objective is all of us to be pirate free and happy [ 2003.12.15 23:44:50 ] umlat > isnt that obvious ? [ 2003.12.15 23:45:03 ] umlat > hold on ,i want to see what andy is saying [ 2003.12.15 23:45:05 ] Blacklight > however, during this time I've also given umlat consistent feedback about his style, as you know Brian I've always told you you don't do yourself any favours with the way you put yourself across some times [ 2003.12.15 23:45:13 ] Crow > maybe but also self defeating somewhat [ 2003.12.15 23:45:23 ] HostageTaker > umlat, what if the people that are with you, dont agree about everything, right away you just write them off and put them on KOS lists? is this how a friendly group of players is supposed to trust each other and stay strong?! with threats and insults? [ 2003.12.15 23:45:31 ] Crow > it's a never ending struggle, if we did actualy get rid of pirates we would get bored [ 2003.12.15 23:45:48 ] Lungorthin > lets not stray of the topic... all [ 2003.12.15 23:45:51 ] umlat > also true [ 2003.12.15 23:46:17 ] umlat > hostage no and thats stupid , many people dont agree with me right away [ 2003.12.15 23:46:17 ] ghost437 > crow : how true it is [ 2003.12.15 23:46:31 ] Blacklight > unfortunately your style and conduct has **ed that many people off now, including all of my own team that I can no longer continue supporting you, I'm sorry about this mate, personally I feel pretty **ty for having to say this but I have to back my corpmates and say that your behaviour is no longer something I & we can support [ 2003.12.15 23:46:48 ] umlat > and some never do but i expect them to uphold what we all have decided on [ 2003.12.15 23:47:12 ] PuncherDavis > ah [ 2003.12.15 23:47:12 ] DoctorGonzo > Blacklight is definitely not on his own, I concur and second all what he has spelled out. Unfortunately it has come to a head. [ 2003.12.15 23:47:21 ] PuncherDavis > Now wwe have it [ 2003.12.15 23:47:21 ] Ariakas > Black Nova Corporation also supports blacklight, most of my members and myself are not happy with the things that have been going on especially your attitude Umlat [ 2003.12.15 23:47:33 ] HostageTaker > yes but at the drop of a hat ive witnessed you in this channel call people morons or put them on KOS for simple things... [ 2003.12.15 23:47:33 ] Joffa fett > me2 [ 2003.12.15 23:47:37 ] Tau Sphinx > Epiphyte concur [ 2003.12.15 23:47:44 ] umlat > i was hoping to get this out in the open [ 2003.12.15 23:47:47 ] PuncherDavis > Psyc0sis also stand in support of doctor gonzo and blacklight So definitely no name calling Rthor, just the correction that you asked for as you are indeed wrong and as this demonstrates I don't think I ever stopped "meddling in OR politics" ;) Good for you that you enjoy watching us fight pirates, as you are such loudly proclaimed anti-pirates in your ex-corp (despite the fact that you ex-corpmates pirate in NORAD space day in day out) no doubt you are merely confused and will start rooting for the good guys sometime soon! As a final comment to call Chon dishonourable is remarkable, a more straight and honourable group I can't think of. /emote is wearing his straightest face Have fun in space mate. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.12 02:32:00 - [83] Originally by: Luna Edited by: Luna on 12/05/2004 00:20:57 r u fantasizing that we have not killed more than you ???? whatever.... our kill board is far greater and we have proven even a tiny force can wipe the smirk off your faces.... looking 4ward to our next skirmish unless TunDragon chases Nonad off... pirate vs pirate.... read the posts many corps feel you guys are nothing more than pirates... hell alot of your players have neg sec status.... isnt rohann part of bnc? I think if we compared BNC and Geeklab kill lists we would be very close to equal to be quite honest. Although I do have to admit that you do a good job of ganking lone haulers and interfering with mining ops... in fact the area in which you guys excel is that most closely akin to piracy. I am feeling a little frustration on your part Luna and more hate than I recall from our past dealings, I had put you in the same camp as Alexis, Jokerz and one or two of your other corpmates and not in the more socially maladjusted half of your corp. Quote: read the posts many corps feel you guys are nothing more than pirates As for that little pearl of wisdom and observational brilliance .... & See you in space I am sure. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.12 02:33:00 - [84] Lifewire, Tenacha et al, Apologies for the little sidetrack there, I'm sure we can get back to discussing blowing each other up again now Eve Blacklight Style
Powder	Posted - 2004.05.12 02:53:00 - [85] on a plus side BL isnt drunk yet so his posts make sense. Geeks, shame on you fo stealing someones thread. if you want to bash us bump Drac's thread again, no need to steal someone else 3 pages in.
Rthor	Posted - 2004.05.12 03:13:00 - [86] Blacklight: The Tundragon ppl asked nicely not to hijack their thread and I promised that I will not and I will keep my word. If you want to discuss whatever make another thread. We can have there a civilized discussion at our leisure and other ppl can join in, hopefully without smacktalk. I can ask you some questions. I will answer yours truthfully and ask you to do the same. I am sure it would be fascinating reading for your NORAD recruits. Since I am a free agent with no political aspirations and no desire to defend anyone I can provide a pretty clear perspective of what exactly happenned. As I said I am retired so I will not start threads on any subject related to OR but yes it is frustrating to read your spin sometimes even in my retirement hence I had to say something. Bottom line is that your in game actions are no better than those of people you criticize for theirs and you are smart enough to know it despite what you write on forums. So I guess to start a thread just post the response that you posted here and name the thread Outer Ring Society ancient history or something.
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.12 03:30:00 - [87] Rthor, if we did it would sink into round and round of flaming and flaming in no time. I actually don't think I spin either, we just see things from different perspectives. Maybe we should chat in game just for the hell of it, it'll be interesting to see things from each other's perspective I am sure. Eve Blacklight Style
Rthor	Posted - 2004.05.12 03:34:00 - [88] Originally by: Blacklight Rthor, if we did it would sink into round and round of flaming and flaming in no time. I think that I could ask Geeklab to stay away and they would honor my will. I will pass on in game convo.
Drac Dragnog	Posted - 2004.05.12 03:43:00 - [89] Originally by: Rthor I think that I could ask Geeklab to stay away and they would honor my will. I will pass on in game convo. So Noted... and I myself will honor Your request Rthor. Disclaimer Random Babble is quite possible
HostageTaker	Posted - 2004.05.12 04:08:00 - [90] Riiiiight.... anyways, to get back on topic... Here is the 1 Billion ISK reason why you won't get a single ISK to end hostilities: Without conflict, there is no point to any of this! Oh and LifeWire, what's your kit worth to ya? OR shall I pawn it on trade

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