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Angry Dan	Posted - 2004.05.09 03:28:00 - [1] I've never heard of them until they popped up near where I'm based. Can someone help me out with a description of what they claim/ do etc. ++++++++++++++++++++ CEO of the Space Munchkins. Fear my kneepads of allure! Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
Kerosene	Posted - 2004.05.09 04:23:00 - [2] Pirates banded together for no other reason than to find PvP in 0.0 near empire.
Sam Stone	Posted - 2004.05.09 05:41:00 - [3] Ah, you're refering to the sorry lot of "The Lost Souls", which are affiliated with Corp 1. They usually try to grief people in 0.1-0.4 around the axis Assah, Hoth & Maspah in Derelik, but often enough the locals residents gather enough firepower so that they run away after some smacktalk.
C4w3	Posted - 2004.05.09 07:42:00 - [4] Edited by: C4w3 on 09/05/2004 08:23:25 You really dont have a clue do you? Catch 22 Alliance, is libirating closed space to be safe havens for all men, We need no Statments, no proof, just look for the lagest blobs in syndicate ;0) Respect goes out to the brave soules of the 2 week siege of Pc9 --> And still we stand our ground, and you lot keeps dieing. "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.05.09 09:35:00 - [5] Originally by: C4w3 Respect goes out to the brave soules of the 2 week siege of Pc9 --> And still we stand our ground, and you lot keeps dieing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is the most entertaining thing i have seen on the forums for a very very very long time Dude you typing in your sleep again, wake up and smell the coffee
fisty	Posted - 2004.05.09 11:15:00 - [6] Originally by: C4w3 Edited by: C4w3 on 09/05/2004 08:23:25 You really dont have a clue do you? Catch 22 Alliance, is libirating closed space to be safe havens for all men, We need no Statments, no proof, just look for the lagest blobs in syndicate ;0) Respect goes out to the brave soules of the 2 week siege of Pc9 --> And still we stand our ground, and you lot keeps dieing. LMAO...
Notferr	Posted - 2004.05.09 11:28:00 - [7] Originally by: C4w3 Catch 22 Alliance, is libirating closed space to be safe havens for all men. ROTFLMAOLOL I LOVE GOOD JOKES! - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Ithildin	Posted - 2004.05.09 11:32:00 - [8] Good joke? It's getting old. -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please.
C4w3	Posted - 2004.05.09 14:48:00 - [9] Edited by: C4w3 on 09/05/2004 14:56:40 RONA-KIA? Some Facts. We did not come here to fight you, you came to fight us FACT. We still sit here even when outnumberd 2-1 FACT. You so bravely claim you don bull** or smacktalk, (Want me to post some logs) FACT You claim not to be paid or asked to come here (I can prove you wrong there) FACT Are you all comming to fight due to the fact your so boerd by Carbear buisness. (YES) You state you control the area, who had 6 pilots trapped there for over 12 h FACT Do you think we gonna sit there and se 20 BS+ jump in on us, HELL YES wast of your time. (Great fun) Question--> Since you lot now are such skilled men and bright minds explain to me why i wouldent call you PIRATES, hint hint closing systems areas, Always 2 sides on a coin isent it. And were are your tactical Commander, i would love to have a chat with him, if you wast you enimys time forces someone else will strike you even harder somewhere else, And who was that bright dumdass complaining about spelling and ** ..... your just a sad person with to few toys when you were a child. C4 --> OUT "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.05.09 15:48:00 - [10] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 09/05/2004 15:53:22 Edited by: KIAInkZ on 09/05/2004 15:51:42 Quote: We did not come here to fight you, you came to fight us FACT. As a result of your pirating activities to RONA members yes Quote: We still sit here even when outnumberd 2-1 FACT. Yes, at safe spots if you're outnumbered. Quote: You so bravely claim you don bull** or smacktalk, (Want me to post some logs) FACT If you want to post a log of Artegg calling SkillZ a tit, go ahead :) Quote: You claim not to be paid or asked to come here (I can prove you wrong there) FACT We're not for hire. Quote: Are you all comming to fight due to the fact your so boerd by Carbear buisness. (YES) Yes we are carebears well done. Quote: You state you control the area, who had 6 pilots trapped there for over 12 h FACT We've never stated we control the area. Our pilots don't get trapped, they log in space sometimes. Quote: Do you think we gonna sit there and se 20 BS+ jump in on us, HELL YES wast of your time. (Great fun) I don't know. We don't have 20 ships, so can't comment if you're gonna do that. Quote:** Question--> Since you lot now are such skilled men and bright minds explain to me why i wouldent call you PIRATES, hint hint closing systems areas, Always 2 sides on a coin isent it. Call us pirates if it makes you feel better. You're the ones killings people in empire space. I think you need to learn to count, cause we don't have anywhere near the number of forces you do. Anyway, let's keep this ingame and have some fun :) BTW and thanks for the EVE radio feature by the Corp 1 DJ the other day, that had us in stiches, we're feel honoured :) --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
C4w3	Posted - 2004.05.09 15:51:00 - [11] Edited by: C4w3 on 09/05/2004 15:59:37 Well my dear. You were fighting along side with FLC and JQA?? Did i miss something there, ? And then to my suprise i see JQA vs LOD --> Nice fraps Nilkarus ;0) I always glad to amuse ppl, it¦s just me. And your friends that went to safespot where 6 vs us 5 and still dident engage while you had 3 BS sitting in the system next? So you can keep this up until end of days, and ill keep to the truth so in the end, the truth will come out. And now to the main question, have you ever seen me post something in the forums, that actually wasent proved later on hint hint "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Masor	Posted - 2004.05.09 15:55:00 - [12] wah whinge wah whinge War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can. The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.05.09 15:57:00 - [13] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 09/05/2004 16:09:57 Originally by: C4w3 Well my dear. You were fighting along side with FLCN and JQA?? Did i miss something there, ? Who's FLCN? And there is no relationship with JQA except a few of my guys worked with them once, but apart from that we operate alone, we certainly are not here on anyone elses business I can assure you that. Anyway, the next RONA KIA video will clear a lot up, so we'll wait till then, still gaining some more footage :) --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
J'tarel	Posted - 2004.05.09 16:14:00 - [14] Hi all, I just wanted to give a clear and concise description of who C22 Alliance are so that those travelling through the region know what theyre dealing with: 1: Important They are pirates, end of story. Corp1, KCFOS, Gatekeepers etc.. all the member corps are pirate corps. Theyre the guys you'll find camping MHC and 6-CZ gates to gank anything coming from empire space. 2: The history of C22 - 2 months or so back, 3rd Front alliance (based around PC9) and JQA Alliance (based around JQA constellation) established themselves in the area to carve out a small piece of 0.0 for themselves. Just small Alliances, they had ventured out of Carebear empire to try and make it in the big bad 0.0. At first this went very well, the pirate corps in the area weren't hard to fight or possesed any particular skill in tactics (having honed thier skills camping gates). So both alliances prospered and we're able to make an impact on the pirating activity in the area. Then Corp1 arrived, whether called by thier pirate buddies or not, Corp1 were a different league altogether. Most of thier pilots, bar a few obvious exceptions, were mature, focused and skilled players. At first the fighting flowed well in both directions between the two alliances and corp1, losses were evenly balanced and the fighting flowed between various systems. At home both Alliances were able to go about thier normal business, while low level warfare continued in the region. However as time passed, more and more pirates from the weaker pirate corps began to migrate to corp1. Old foes like Killer Klowns became mere shadows of thier former selfs and would eventually become little more than henchman to Corp1. This situation became finalised when recently the C22 Alliance was formed. This essentially brought all the various henchman/lacky pirate groups under the direct control of Corp1. There are exceptions of course, DNA is a good example, they have retained a greater degree of autonomy then the rest. The Alliance main purpose is to push out the non-pirate alliances from the region so they can get back to the main job of ganking at the gates into empire. They have issued various propoganda about 'free space' but mainly in a humourous 'tongue in cheek' way. To be honest anyone who doesnt know theyre pirates has generally never left empire space before! Most recently, they have focused on taking out 3rd Front Alliance first, as the alliance based closest to theyre 'Ganking Zone' (MHC/6-CZ). This manifested in a large scale siege of PC9. As many as 20-30 pirate ships from both Corp1 and its followers can be seen conducting the siege. At the beginning of the siege, the 3rd Front Navy sallied out from its stations and engaged. A very cool battle was joined and both sides suffered equally heavy losses. Sadly the loot went to C22. Since then, the siege has continued at a low conflict level. With C22 besieging and 3rd Front waiting it out (much like an ancient siege of castle). Small firefights break the silence but with the exception of a recent raid by RONA-KIA, the siege continues. 3: C22 Alliance Operations - I myself am taking part in the siege, but I can give you a few helpful tips on dealing with and understanding C22 if they visit your area. Firstly it is important to differentiate between Corp1 and any other C22 Members. Corp1 are PvP players as much as pirates, they will generally fight whether they have superior or equal numbers or if outnumbered, if they think the quality of thier ships/pilots are better than yours. Like all pirate/raiders what they want is to loot your cargo and modules. They may be very elaborate about how they do this and will slowly move around systems tactically to achieve this, they will demonstrate unusual patience for pirates. So if its corp1, be wary and respect thier pilots. Other members are less worrisome, most are old school pirates who are oppurtunistic gankers. They will attack with little preparation and head on. They use little tactics and are easy to predict. DNA are worthy of a little more respect as theyre smarter than most, but klowns and gatekeepers etc are pretty basic minded pilots, prone to trying to 'smacktalk' you into a fight/ambush than actually being clever about it. 4: Solo C22 members - If you see a single pilot, check locals. They rarely move alone and if you engage expect other vessels to arrive to join the fight in short order. well that all for now, but as I said be wary and keep at arms length. Feel free to banter with Corp1 in locals but ignore the rest really. Thanks -= Ninja, Ninja, Cloaky, Cloaky =- 'Sadly the days of the suicide kestrel are gone'
Bobbeh	Posted - 2004.05.09 16:33:00 - [15] Pretty decent post from J'tarel Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:14:00 - [16] Originally by: C4w3 Some Facts. We did not come here to fight you, you came to fight us FACT. Correct a member of your pirate alliance killed a rona Kessy Originally by: C4w3 We still sit here even when outnumberd 2-1 FACT. yep like inkz said at a safe spot Originally by: C4w3 You so bravely claim you don bull** or smacktalk, (Want me to post some logs) FACT Go ahead and post the chat logs of skillz calling us GM alts and saying that he is going to declare war on Rona Midguard which is a corp for noobs which has just gone in to effect: damn that is sad Originally by:** C4w3 You claim not to be paid or asked to come here (I can prove you wrong there) FACT We were not paid at all and we have never ever been paid to do a job and yes you are correct we were asked to kill you by RONA due to one of their ** dieing. Originally by:** C4w3 Are you all comming to fight due to the fact your so boerd by Carbear buisness. (YES) Define Carebear and i will answer this for you. Originally by: C4w3 You state you control the area, who had 6 pilots trapped there for over 12 h FACT Lol you trapped 6 pilots with 18 and BTW 3 of those 6 were afk and i was playing on my 2nd account. Originally by: C4w3 Do you think we gonna sit there and se 20 BS+ jump in on us, HELL YES wast of your time. (Great fun) I don't really understand what you are saying here Originally by: C4w3 Question--> Since you lot now are such skilled men and bright minds explain to me why i wouldent call you PIRATES, hint hint closing systems areas, Always 2 sides on a coin isent it. As inkz said call us pirates if you must. Originally by: C4w3 And were are your tactical Commander, i would love to have a chat with him, if you wast you enimys time forces someone else will strike you even harder somewhere else, I am the tactical commander so feel free to convo me.. Originally by: C4w3 And who was that bright dumdass complaining about spelling and **** ..... your just a sad person with to few toys when you were a child. C4 --> OUT And check your logs if i remember correctly i don't think that was a rona-kia pilot but i might be wrong
The Mizz	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:22:00 - [17] Originally by: J'tarel Hi all, 1: Important They are pirates, end of story. Corp1, KCFOS, Gatekeepers etc.. all the member corps are pirate corps. Theyre the guys you'll find camping MHC and 6-CZ gates to gank anything coming from empire space. I resent that mark that we are pirates for we are not. We have never once ransomed a single ship as a group. We are a pvp corp that focus's on frigate and cruiser combat. If it wasnt for LFC's poor treatment towards us if you and your allies would not have chased down our ships in your so called closed space that wasnt even marked and then not listening to our side of the story you guys would not be losing ships in the first place to Gatekeeper forces. Do not state things that are not true that is all I ask.
MacArvid	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:30:00 - [18] Jippididoda Jippididay lets dance togheter like if we was *s! Rona- Before i had some respect for u guys but thats gone now. U sry lame f.....s. I was told that u guys was good ppl that didnt smack talked and **......but they was wrong pfffft And regarding your skills in PvP....i have to tell u that u sux. Ok maybe u have good skills and so one but do u have any tactics at all??? LFC- RESPECT!!!! i allmost feeling bad to kill u guys..........but i have to.
KIAJugger	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:32:00 - [19] RONA-KIA are responsible for the hole in the ozone layer: FACT. RONA-KIA are responsible for standing on the grassy hill and shooting JFK. (By means of an elaborate time travel device) FACT. RONA-KIA are responsible for the dramatic rise in teenage pregnancies in the UK and US. FACT If I keep adding FACT to the end of my sentences, will it actually make the above true? God I hope so! KIAJugger has a bank balance equivalent to Bill Gates'. FACT /Jugger prays to all things mighty to make it true. /Jugger checks his bank balance. /Jugger sighs: it's just not fair. :(
Euthanasia	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:40:00 - [20] "Pretty decent post" Hey! J¦tarels post not even half baked Bobbeh. I'd rather say its shockful of errors. 1: Most members within the alliance are not 'pirates' in any which way. 2: Our corporation is in no way under the control of Corp1, neither is the others within the alliance. 3: The purpose is to push out those who 'claim space' for their own benefit - and that in a previously unclaimed area. So who's the pirates here really? Those who blow up guys who want to mine in a small Probe or whaever (The small amount of ore will grow back each 24 hours) or harvest NPC's (which grows back even faster) in one unclaimed area. Pirates really those who drived the harassers off? We closely followed your actions when you pirates 'escorted' others out of the area. Noted your cans telling people to stay away or face destruction - to keep your concience clean or what? who the heck read spam cans anyway?!? Naah those most commonly used to causse lag so killing of arrivinbg ships be more easy (no we dont use such cheap tricks!) You thought you would go on harassing players forever without any counter reaction?!? You thought wrong! 4: You did get an offer to peacefully leave the area ending your occupation. An offer that only was met with smacktalk. 5: Despite your repeated attacks on us we have recently guided several members of your corps and alliance peacefully of the PC9 system. Finally and for the behalf of the RONA-KIA pirates and podkillers, they started a personal vendetta against me for no reason whatsoever. I hadnt done anything against RONA-KIA when they attacked and blew up a Rupture of mine. As a matter of fact I didnt even shoot back, im so peaceful that I just let those guys blow up my ship since there could have been some misunderstanding of some kind of other. Yet RONA or their siamese corp RONA-KIA havnt contacted me, neither offered any compensation it brought me into this conflict theres not even a shade of doubt in my mind who the real pirates are in this space. So you Sam Stone better try again telling who the real 'griefers' are here huh? In my view the matter is clear: RONA & RONA-KIA, forum warriors / Ingame griefers and podkillers. _______________________________________________________________________ The stats for this conflict for me as follows: Losses: 1 Rupture, 1 Kestrel & 1 Rifter. Kills: 1 Megathron, 1 Moa and 1 Claw. Euthanasia "Im expendable"
Psychopath	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:45:00 - [21] Edited by: Psychopath on 09/05/2004 18:01:23 I remember fighting alongside KIA guys in the original venal alliance and in my opinion they were respectable players. However the smack talk and general lack of tactics in the last 2 weeks has lowered my view of them. If you are going to smacktalk in local Rona-Kia you are just going to make yourselves look very stupid. Behave like a pvp corp and you will be treated like a pvp corp. Psychopath out *A Corp 1 pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea*
KIAJugger	Posted - 2004.05.09 17:51:00 - [22] Smack talk and lack of tactics? I never realised forum battles revolves around lies and deceit. Oh well - cya all - I'm off to wage war on pirates, not war on forum low-lifes.
J'tarel	Posted - 2004.05.09 18:01:00 - [23] Euthanasia? who the hell are you? Your points bear no weight.. if your an ALT we have no idea what standpoint your talking from.. also why use an Alt? As for Gatekeepers.. oh Im sorry we offended you in getting you to leave PC9, but you should know (and how you didnt know this already is rather worrying) C22 is a pirate Alliance, you joined.. ergo you are Pirates.. simple really. If you dont want to be pirates, stop travelling round with loads of them.. to be honest I don't know that much about you.. I only ever see you in small numbers always alongside corp1 ships.. Ive never seen you fight solo except the day you first appeared.. never seen you guys fly on your own since.. if you dont like claimed space or the idea of claimed space.. the galaxy is a big place go have a look.. if your just in it for the PvP.. that cool, I respect Corp1 for that but dont try and bull**** me with some high minded principle and 'we're not pirates, oh but everyone else we're flying with is'... So which would you prefer? Thanks -= Ninja, Ninja, Cloaky, Cloaky =- 'Sadly the days of the suicide kestrel are gone'
Baconjoe	Posted - 2004.05.09 18:06:00 - [24] Lets just sort it in game We are cursed men
J'tarel	Posted - 2004.05.09 18:09:00 - [25] /emote tips hat to Bacon Joe -= Ninja, Ninja, Cloaky, Cloaky =- 'Sadly the days of the suicide kestrel are gone'
Skywalker	Posted - 2004.05.09 18:11:00 - [26] Originally by: J'tarel Euthanasia? who the hell are you? She is a member of MAFIA, hence no alt. More Mafia info
Angry Dan	Posted - 2004.05.09 18:39:00 - [27] Thank you J'tarel for a concise and well thought out answer. Thanks to everyone else for the flames, the marshmallows are now nicely toasted. The reason I asked, is that a mate of mine has been getting problems with these guys cruising .4 nearby, and pking his corps indies. Nothing like using a battlefleet to blow up a empty Bestower, but who am I judge thier tactics. Mind yu, I got called in as a ECM specialist for the fleet that was gping to get them back for that. Glad that I was the only one to fly as far as the assembly point. Seems our intel was faulty, and we nearly got gang banged. Thanks for the warning, my associates and I will give them a wide berth in future And to all those having a personal flame war war - If your guns are a big as your mouths, I'll just stay docked in Yulai then. ++++++++++++++++++++ CEO of the Space Munchkins. Fear my kneepads of allure! Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
Euthanasia	Posted - 2004.05.09 18:56:00 - [28] Dare accusing me of hiding behind one alt J'tarel? Euthanasia have contributed in the defence of PC9 for up to 10 hours a day during nine days. Secondly its a main character that have existed in the game since beta under the same name. I take full responsibility for my doings and actions and do NOT do that chicken stunt of hiding behind any other name. Get real!
Landmass	Posted - 2004.05.09 19:25:00 - [29] Oooh look at them squirm!
Euthanasia	Posted - 2004.05.09 20:17:00 - [30] Hey J'tarel - there you got one! Points up at Landmass
The Mizz	Posted - 2004.05.09 20:35:00 - [31] Originally by: J'tarel As for Gatekeepers.. oh Im sorry we offended you in getting you to leave PC9, but you should know (and how you didnt know this already is rather worrying) C22 is a pirate Alliance, you joined.. ergo you are Pirates.. simple really. If you dont want to be pirates, stop travelling round with loads of them.. to be honest I don't know that much about you.. I only ever see you in small numbers always alongside corp1 ships.. Ive never seen you fight solo except the day you first appeared.. never seen you guys fly on your own since.. if you dont like claimed space or the idea of claimed space.. the galaxy is a big place go have a look.. if your just in it for the PvP.. that cool, I respect Corp1 for that but dont try and bull**** me with some high minded principle and 'we're not pirates, oh but everyone else we're flying with is'... So which would you prefer? Thanks if we are pirates then I consider LFC to be the same for chasing down our ships without warning and then trying to take them out.
Kerosene	Posted - 2004.05.10 01:19:00 - [32] Originally by: The Mizz if we are pirates then I consider LFC to be the same for chasing down our ships without warning and then trying to take them out. C22 = pirate alliance (read griefer alliance where possible) 3rd Front/JQA/Rona - anti pirate alliance/corp (read mining/npc hunting alliance where possible)
C4w3	Posted - 2004.05.10 06:19:00 - [33] Originally by: Kerosene Originally by: The Mizz if we are pirates then I consider LFC to be the same for chasing down our ships without warning and then trying to take them out. C22 = pirate alliance (read griefer alliance where possible) 3rd Front/JQA/Rona - anti pirate alliance/corp (read mining/npc hunting alliance where possible) It¦s all in the eye of the beholder Sir, Let¦s end this now, "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one.
Kerosene	Posted - 2004.05.10 06:51:00 - [34] Originally by: C4w3 It¦s all in the eye of the beholder Sir, Let¦s end this now, Alright. Let me put it another way... C22 = Would happily gank new players/indy pilots/anybody that moves if they thought they wouldn't get shot at back. 3rd Front = Wouldn't.
TMX	Posted - 2004.05.10 08:21:00 - [35] And now they have some one firing back ! And ....... i will let my guns do the talking! ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge!
Frankinator	Posted - 2004.05.10 08:30:00 - [36] Is KIA new to this game, or the region? No offense, just wondering where they came from and how they ended up in synd all of the sudden, upper and lower parts so it seems.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.10 08:49:00 - [37] Go C22 Alliance! . Pirates be damned! Everyone loves pvp! (And tell swisher he owes me something.. I think..) Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Sam Stone	Posted - 2004.05.10 10:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Euthanasia So you Sam Stone better try again telling who the real 'griefers' are here huh? First of all: You're painting with an awfully wide brush there. I'm not associated in any way with RONA-KIA, so I don't know what your longish rant was all about and what I have to do with it. Secondly and to answer your question I repeat what I said the first time around: TLS. If they're such great PVP'ers, then why don't they pick fights among their own kind? As a 'carebaer' and >0.4-miner I can only speculate about it. But is it because they'll get their own scalps handed if they'd try? I don't know. But hey - whatever suits them best. The bottom line is: They're pirating in Derelik and are part of the "Catch 22" alliance that includes "Corp 1" - as well as others. That's what the initial poster of this topic wanted to have confirmed.
Rodge	Posted - 2004.05.10 10:21:00 - [39] Originally by: J'tarel but klowns and gatekeepers etc are pretty basic minded pilots, prone to trying to 'smacktalk' you into a fight/ambush than actually being clever about it. The only contact I, personally, have had with anyone outside our corp/alliance in Syndicate is congratulating KIAGarpy on taking out my rifter recently. Gatekeepers policy is no talk in local at all and is vigourously enforced. As you guys never leave your station, I can't really comment on your combat tactics. Originally by: J'tarel As for Gatekeepers.. oh Im sorry we offended you in getting you to leave PC9, but you should know (and how you didnt know this already is rather worrying) C22 is a pirate Alliance, you joined.. ergo you are Pirates.. simple really. If you dont want to be pirates, stop travelling round with loads of them.. to be honest I don't know that much about you.. I only ever see you in small numbers always alongside corp1 ships.. Ive never seen you fight solo except the day you first appeared.. never seen you guys fly on your own since.. if you dont like claimed space or the idea of claimed space.. the galaxy is a big place go have a look.. if your just in it for the PvP.. that cool, I respect Corp1 for that but dont try and bull**** me with some high minded principle and 'we're not pirates, oh but everyone else we're flying with is'... So which would you prefer? We had saw plenty of your guys in Syndicate and always let them pass without attacking, as we're not pirates and had no reason to attack you. Then one day, our CEO goes to a station in a system not marked as "claimed" to buy a ship. When he comes out, he is fired on by LFC ships without warning. He got greeted by smacktalk in local when he tried to explain himself and tell your people that he just wanted to leave in his new ship. So we did the only thing we could, sent someone in who took out the station campers so our CEO could leave. And we got treated to even more abuse after that. Can attacking someone in space without reason be considered pirating? Can camping someone in a station who just wanted to leave "your" territory, after finding out it was claimed, be considered pirating? Can resorting to hurling abuse in local when we take steps to defend ourselves against you be considered sad? I'll not even answer that, I'll just prepare for another flame from you as a reply to our posts. /emote puts flame resistant suit on. [ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
Chris Reed	Posted - 2004.05.10 12:00:00 - [40] Ok, I RARELY reply to these forums, since I don't really like the fact that it mostly fuels those flamers out there that have nothing better to do, but I couldn't help myself. Lot's of bad posts in here now, allthough a few try to keep a level head. I'm just gonna post a quick list of my views of some people mentioned allready: Catch 22 alliance: Pirates. If any corp in this alliance isn't pirates, I apologize. But, frankly, you can't expect us to know that YOU are different when just about every other guy in the alliance is a pirate (and proud of it). That said, I don't have anything against pirates. It's a choice of game style. Without them I couldn't play my style, the pirate-hunter. Corp 1: Mostly decent guys. They have, as all corps do, some bad seeds in between, but all in all they are a decent corp that deserves respect. Probably the best coordinated pirate effort I've seen in a while. DNA: Goes for the same. I don't know them much, but what I do know is that they are good PvP'ers. Respect for that. GateKeepers: Hardly heard about these guys until they showed up in lower syndicate. No clue to how they are as persons, but they had one "expedition" into my area with a force of cruisers/frigs. Good size on the fleet too. They didn't do much damage, but the main point is that they must have had tons of laughs. And in the end, that's what's important. So, creds for establishing an attack force with (I believe) the sole purpose of having fun. Too few people enjoy the fun in the game these days. Rona: Havn't had much contact with these guys lately, but they still stand in my book as a group to be reconed with. I've never heard them smack-talking, and they've always acted in a respectfull, decent manenr as far as I know. Oh and that Euthanasi-something guy is not an alt. I've killed him before, and I will do again. He's a member of Catch 22 alliance, and hence a pirate. ;P
b0ing	Posted - 2004.05.10 13:23:00 - [41] Edited by: b0ing on 11/05/2004 15:25:42 Respect to Chris Reed for minimum forumwars and localwars, or even none at all .. about rona-kia ..
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.05.10 13:55:00 - [42] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 10/05/2004 13:57:27 our new soon to be released movie should straighten out a few things here 8:30 mins of smack talking and bad tactics... watch this space --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Skywalker	Posted - 2004.05.10 14:02:00 - [43] Originally by: KIAInkZ Edited by: KIAInkZ on 10/05/2004 13:57:27 our new soon to be released movie should straighten out a few things here 8:30 mins of smack talking and bad tactics... watch this space Mr, what are you trying to prove ? Some people like the art of smacktalking....some don't that's just the way it is. Some people like forumwhoring, some people don't... More Mafia info
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.05.10 14:15:00 - [44] /sigh guess some people don't understand sarcasm... --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Notferr	Posted - 2004.05.10 15:42:00 - [45] I guess I am lost.... C22 hanges with the like of the Killer Clowns, yes? Killer Clowns are and have always been proud pirates, correct? C22 supports and harbors the Killer Clown corp, right? I'd shoot at you.... - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Euthanasia	Posted - 2004.05.10 16:20:00 - [46] Edited by: Euthanasia on 10/05/2004 16:58:53 Hey Propehcy - you are soo right about PvP play its fun! Chris Reed: Of course you got me that time, a single Rifter against your combined JQA plus SE battleships had me a lil bit outgunned there, but just a bit. ;) I will attack when I meet you next time also, regardless of what ship I happen to use at the time. As for pirate, well mebbe I am it depends on your outlook of things. I never killed indiscrimately. Er well - I do but only when dealing with killers. Like when I recently cleared out PF-346 to keep the spaceways secure together with The Mizz and some other guys. Waves at Mizz So if the freedom fighter label dont suit you, then it have to be "Pirate 'vith' a Purpose" (=PvP) which leads us back to Propehcy's comment again. :) Euthaniasia
Nafri	Posted - 2004.05.10 16:31:00 - [47] Originally by: Notferr I guess I am lost.... C22 hanges with the like of the Killer Clowns, yes? Killer Clowns are and have always been proud pirates, correct? C22 supports and harbors the Killer Clown corp, right? I'd shoot at you.... ^ mhh you never met corp1, didnt you? Wanna fly with me?
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.05.10 18:21:00 - [48] KIAInkZ - Did anyone ever tell you that you've got an excellent background on that char? Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Falhofnir	Posted - 2004.05.10 19:57:00 - [49] hurray for the smacktalk.
Walking Contradiction	Posted - 2004.05.12 14:22:00 - [50] RONA-KIA and the rest of the PA need to grow some balls. Alliance warfare is where it's at ladies.
olyyy	Posted - 2004.05.12 21:09:00 - [51] hmmm... Cookies hunt in 0.0 ? Seems like I missed the party Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Tar om	Posted - 2004.05.12 23:23:00 - [52] /me waves at JQA we are fighing against C22 near y9g / pertineere in the Solitude region. MAFIA have declared war on us and DNA seem to love y9. The pirates are mining the 0.0 but have to refine their crokite in pertineere. Its been skirmishes so far with both sides feeling their way into the conflict, but entertaining nonetheless. Perhaps we should organise some hunting parties? :) Tar om -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net http://www.serenitymovie.com
Angry Dan	Posted - 2004.05.13 01:12:00 - [53] Godammit It was just getting cool enough to enter here, and then it kicks off again. Hot diggity damn. Time to get the fire retardant underkeckers out again. Anyone got any popcorn? ++++++++++++++++++++ CEO of the Space Munchkins. Fear my kneepads of allure! Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
Elaine Marley	Posted - 2004.06.28 09:18:00 - [54] Originally by: Sam Stone Ah, you're refering to the sorry lot of "The Lost Souls", which are affiliated with Corp 1. They usually try to grief people in 0.1-0.4 around the axis Assah, Hoth & Maspah in Derelik, but often enough the locals residents gather enough firepower so that they run away after some smacktalk. Pfft, i wanna meet you now... im asking myself whos smacktalking... Podding Regards Elaine Marley Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control Veni, Vedi, Vici
Thurket	Posted - 2004.06.28 11:46:00 - [55] Edited by: Thurket on 28/06/2004 12:14:53 Edited by: Thurket on 28/06/2004 12:13:56 Well facts is (experienced it). Wich ive seen alot of them in Derelik Region. Lost Souls, corp1 affiliates. They mostly attack noobs, smacktalk alot in local, but when reinforcements arrive they run and hide like the cowards they are. Never seen them fight agains experienced ppl only seen attacking defencless noobs that are trying to make some cash. They should look up some facts about beeing pirates and how to act like ones. KCFOS, corp1 affiliates also gladly attack noobs mostly and also run away and hides when equally matched or outnumberd. Think they are crying since castor was installed, no more kestrels with cruise missiles. Gatekeepers. well if they are not pirates then im santa claus. Tho they claim to be a Merc corp. example: well was in 0.0 hunting npc rats, we where 3 cruisers all noobs ofcourse not experienced at all (before castor patch). saw 2 of them in scorps humping the gate and they blew all of us up. no warning nothing just blew us up. result was 1 of us got podkilled and the other 2 lost their ships. P.S sry for the typos ect ect
Syra Kuman	Posted - 2004.06.28 13:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Thurket Gatekeepers. well if they are not pirates then im santa claus. Santa, any chance of an early christmas present? How about some properly working 425mms before christmas?
Elaine Marley	Posted - 2004.06.29 05:58:00 - [57] Originally by: Thurket KCFOS, corp1 affiliates also gladly attack noobs mostly and also run away and hides when equally matched or outnumberd. Think they are crying since castor was installed, no more kestrels with cruise missiles. Smacktalk of C1, KCFOC and TLS sounds like "30 Mills for youre ship or eject" so it is NOT called Smacktalk its a ransom... If someone is running infact of Overnumbering like Carebears usually do in a 3:5 its theyre clever enough not risk ships. Think about it. And you know Merc were pwnd a lot as i know... Podding Regards Elaine Marley Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control Veni, Vedi, Vici
Hawkings SJ	Posted - 2004.06.29 07:37:00 - [58] Sure, right, uh huh.....
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2004.06.29 07:42:00 - [59] Please do not bump old threads ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)

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