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Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:41:00 -
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OK I guess I post this question here for the CSM reps. Since I can not find a decent thread to post in that is not either a)buried on the 13 page or b) is not strewn with eye poking.
I would like to understand how an issue is brought up to the CSM from the Assembly forum that has an overwhelming non support from the player base, that clearly does not have the support?
It does not seem right. How can CCP sit there and with a straight face and look at the "suggestion" brought up by the CSM when the player base says they do not want it?
Aren't you a little bit concerned that by pushing agendas that has no or very little support from the player base makes the CSM look foolish in the eyes of CCP? So when you do ask to push a "HOT BUTTON" item that has the support from the player base, CCP is not going to look at you and not take you seriously?
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Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 23:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Farrqua
Aren't you a little bit concerned that by pushing agendas that has no or very little support from the player base makes the CSM look foolish in the eyes of CCP? So when you do ask to push a "HOT BUTTON" item that has the support from the player base, CCP is not going to look at you and not take you seriously?
Takes personal judgement really. If an issue has 30 decent supports and 200 iterations of the same argument against by the same corp/pressure group then the issue can still be raised by the decision of a CSM rep. We all have to learn to spam filter the issue threads and ignore the background noise. Our job is to get what we believe are decent suggestions that will be of value to the player base on the agenda. Its not our task to be popular by agreeing with the barking of a mob.
That said, I think we've presented a very good cross-section of issues for this first session that do represent all the best suggestions made on the assembly hall that could be raised within the time constraints and 7 day advance discussion rule. If you feel we've forgotten something important that will have been up for open discusion for the 7 day mark by sunday's meeting then feel free to ask one of us to take a look.
No Jade, There is nothing in particular that I have in mind. I have no aspirations of any of the topics presented by the CSM or the player base. I just "try" to look at them with a different eye. (Playing Eve regularly for little over 5 years now I have learned to accept and adapt what has been handed down to me)
I have been reading a lot of issues about "game mechanics". "I am not even going to touch the other crap that has to deal with Goons or your self." It is when I see a thread that has 20 support votes and 200 posts like you said. That is a red flag for me. When the thread came up about Changing ammo, and I saw 84 posts and 82 support, I just peaked at the initial post and knew that was a no brainer.
When there is a disparity of the number of votes I have to wonder and I take the time to read some of the posts and gloss over the repeat threadnoghts and look for new posts that would easily be counted to show a majority of non-support.
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Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
So anyone who opposes you is automatically a Goon and some insulting-sounding variety of animal, and as such their opinion can be discounted without further consideration? There are third-world dictators with less ego and chutzpah than that.
You might have a point if the titans into monster truck thread didn't exist.
Ok there has to be a point when common sense in these matters comes in to play. If the CSM and the playerbase can not actually tell the difference between Internet space ships and a frigging monster truck, well there is no wonder CCP has the attitude they do. I would too.
This makes absolutely no sense.
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