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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Romale on 09/06/2008 20:57:05
and kugutsmen did absolutly NOTHING illegal
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.11 21:43:00 -
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Every player can come up with a sob story true, but they can't come up with a sob story that involves them doing absolutly nothing in game, being punished under a general EULA term for causing them headache that didnt' break any actual rules.
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 00:01:00 -
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if someone was banned for anything out of game, that wasn't illegal, that doesn't involve time codes, yes it should be reviewed, there is no pandora's box there |
Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:51:00 -
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The whole purpose of the CSM is oversight, thats why the idea came up, i dunno what you think it is but it was created in response to dev's playing the game and cheating while they doing it, that oversight should include dealing with the emo reaction that was banning kugu plane a simple as its directly involved with the reason the CSM was created, and the only unresolved issue involving the incident still out there |
Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Athar Mu
Originally by: Zaran Darkstar
I support the unban of this guy. He helped in improvment of the QoS of this game in a sence. Truth was revealed. In real life the law punishes who reveals personal data UNLESS this serves the common good. I think in the case of Kugutsumen we have the perfect example of the above.
So outing GM's who do nothing wrong and spoiling the game for them because he wants to be unbanned is for the common good how? I agree that if someone is doing something wrong they should be brought to the attention of the law.
However, the player base is not the law they are the rabble, the great unclean, the law is CCP.
Comparison to real life (because you did): You suspect that someone is a kiddie fiddler but don't have absolute proof, would you go to the police or would you go to the Sun Newspaper (any form of media outlet) with a picture of the bloke and say that he is a naughty man and that he should be strung up?
If the person is and you go to the police then he gets arrested and tried by the law, however if go to the newspaper first you could damage the the case and it could mean that he gets off because of a technicality.
If the person isn't and you go to the police, the matter gets investigated and the charges dropped thats all good, however if you go to the newspaper with this then and you ruin this guys life because after investigation it turns out he has done nothing wrong. What have you done? You have ruined an innocent mans life (that sort of stuff never comes off) and also screwed yourself over because he can now sue you for damages.
Oh and serving the 'common good' can only be seen in hindsight. As what one person thinks is serving the 'common good' may not actually be serving the 'common good' but actually just serving their own good.
And finally its CCP's game and we pay to play it, there are no laws/rules to say that they have to let anyone play it because WE say so.
hi thats not why he was banned, thnx have a nice day
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:18:00 -
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im not going into detail because last folks i know who did could no longer post on the forums, that being said he cought a gm creating t2 bpo's and them being used in game, hense the whole coalition thing?, this was before invention mind you, he did uncover another gm's acount later after he was banned, i wont go into details on that either, if you want to read him goto kugu's websight you can find it in google all the stuff is there. at no point did he break any ccp rules doing it either, they banned him for a general eula section of basically costing ccp money
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zaran Darkstar
Can CCP point us to some thread where the official reason this guy was banned is explained? Not generic explanations like "He violated the EULA" but in specific what was the exact rule of EULA he violated?
hahaha thats funny man ^ ^, you wont find that on these forums, he posted a copy of the banning on the sight if i remember right
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Romale
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.15 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Torshin
I believe the exact reasoning comes down to CCP banned Kug for creating additional work load for CCP employees. What this is referring to is the manner in which he revealed the T20 information and the threadnought and disabling of the forums that followed this information being public.
it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
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