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Eddie Gordo
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:07:00 -
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Less talking - More Pew Pew - Dust 514 gameplay video |

Landraar
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:30:00 -
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no new footage, it's just a remix of all the snippets that are known of. |

Eddie Gordo
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.03.10 18:50:00 -
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Exactly. Less talking, more pew pew. What part of that wasn't clear in the title? |

Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.03.10 19:29:00 -
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TL;DW: They went with Call of Duty/Halo style combat as opposed to say, Battlefield or Quake or anything else.
Not my cup of tea, but the other elements might make it interesting. |

Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.10 21:21:00 -
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Why does every FPS now insist on using ironsights AND keeping crosshairs which make ironsighting completely pointless? Not sure how much I'm looking forward to Dust 514 now.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
185
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Posted - 2012.03.11 11:14:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Why does every FPS now insist on using ironsights AND keeping crosshairs which make ironsighting completely pointless? Not sure how much I'm looking forward to Dust 514 now.
Oh yeah and trailer footage doesn't count as gameplay.
Because using ironsights allows you to actually use things like the scope attached to your weapon so you aim more accurately at a target at range? I know that I for one wouldn't use a sniper rifle without looking thought the scope. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.03.11 11:26:00 -
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Is it just me, or do DUSTs graphics look like they belong in a 2008 game? |

Docter Daniel Jackson
Hendrix Angels Fabricated Confabulations
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Posted - 2012.03.11 11:30:00 -
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:Is it just me, or do DUSTs graphics look like they belong in a 2008 game?
Is it more or is it beta?
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.11 11:43:00 -
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Grideris wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Why does every FPS now insist on using ironsights AND keeping crosshairs which make ironsighting completely pointless? Not sure how much I'm looking forward to Dust 514 now.
Oh yeah and trailer footage doesn't count as gameplay. Because using ironsights allows you to actually use things like the scope attached to your weapon so you aim more accurately at a target at range? I know that I for one wouldn't use a sniper rifle without looking thought the scope.
I grant you, when it actually has a purpose ironsights is great, for instance in Red Ochestra 2 it's fantastic mainly because they did it realistically, but lately I've found that in a lot of mainstream shooters it's absolutely pointless because they've stuck a crosshair on the screen for you to use. Then there's also the fact that iron sights barely increases your accuracy and by the time you zoom in with that ridiculously long animation and get yourself killed because the guy on the other side has just started spraying with crosshairs instead.
I say either do it like Red Ochestra 2 or do it like counter-strike otherwise it's just going to suck and be an obselete feature.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
114
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Posted - 2012.03.11 12:54:00 -
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I think iron sights are a bit silly in a universe like this one- everything should have a scope, or at least some kind of scope-imitating sensor. Personally, I think Halo has it right: scoping puts the scope on your HUD, rather than having you actually raise the gun to eye height and peer down the tiny scope. This is particularly appropriate in games like this, because everyone has visors anyway, so manual-scoping is physically awkward, and the suit systems can easily superimpose an appropriate reticle/HUD. Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter |

Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.03.11 13:10:00 -
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Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:Nedes Betternaem wrote:Is it just me, or do DUSTs graphics look like they belong in a 2008 game? Is it me or is it beta? That releases in less than 6 months. |

Docter Daniel Jackson
Hendrix Angels Fabricated Confabulations
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Posted - 2012.03.11 13:15:00 -
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:Nedes Betternaem wrote:Is it just me, or do DUSTs graphics look like they belong in a 2008 game? Is it me or is it beta? That releases in less than 6 months.
anything can change rely, I know that video shows old stuff anyway so lets wait till fan-fest to see what there graphics is like but still I want good game play not shiny graphics. |

Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
185
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Posted - 2012.03.11 13:56:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Grideris wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Why does every FPS now insist on using ironsights AND keeping crosshairs which make ironsighting completely pointless? Not sure how much I'm looking forward to Dust 514 now.
Oh yeah and trailer footage doesn't count as gameplay. Because using ironsights allows you to actually use things like the scope attached to your weapon so you aim more accurately at a target at range? I know that I for one wouldn't use a sniper rifle without looking thought the scope. I grant you, when it actually has a purpose ironsights is great, for instance in Red Ochestra 2 it's fantastic mainly because they did it realistically, but lately I've found that in a lot of mainstream shooters it's absolutely pointless because they've stuck a crosshair on the screen for you to use. Then there's also the fact that iron sights barely increases your accuracy and by the time you zoom in with that ridiculously long animation and get yourself killed because the guy on the other side has just started spraying with crosshairs instead. I say either do it like Red Ochestra 2 or do it like counter-strike otherwise it's just going to suck and be an obselete feature.
Have you actually played any of these modern FPS games, such as Battlefield 3 (or heck, you can even go all the way back to BF 2 if you want)? I can tell you right now that aiming down the sights of your weapon still has meaning, despite the inclusion of a crosshair. And to be quite honest, unlike in any modern or historical setting that does have crosshairs, DUST 514 actually has a potential explanation for why they are there.
Seriously man, from what you're saying I don't think you've played anything but RO2 or CS as of late. Either that or learn to use game mechanics properly. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Miss President
SOLARIS ASTERIUS
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Posted - 2012.03.11 16:20:00 -
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:Is it just me, or do DUSTs graphics look like they belong in a 2008 game?
Maybe 2006? Now it explains why they are not charging money for dust, who would charge any money for that kind of graphics?
If this was beta with lower settings, CCP marketing would never release the video due to bad false publicity it would create.
Idea is great though, so maybe free model will make people put up with the graphics. |

boseo
Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2012.03.11 17:12:00 -
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It was stated by ccp that it was indeed old footage. they said so when they linked the article on their facebook page.. just thought I would inform you guys of that.
Edit: when I say article I mean the most recent video one on gametrailers.com
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Tikhon Fedorov
Castle Kingside
7
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Posted - 2012.03.11 17:23:00 -
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/09/dust-514-beta-starts-in-april-gameplay-video-released-at-gdc/
Mix of old and new footage below.
CCP: I have one word that seems to need addressing based on what little I've seen.
Framerate. Nothing more needs to be said, but perhaps spammed.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
398
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Posted - 2012.03.11 18:52:00 -
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I've been playing FPSs a LOT longer than EvE. I'm looking forward to DUST. Graphics-wise, I think it looks pretty good. That said, it's not really that big a factor in my view. The biggest factor is playability and control. What the guy said above about frame rates is pretty important. As a guy who generally has his controller sensitivity maxed to 10, I agree that framerates are pretty damn important especially if you want to land those sniper head shots.
One thing that jumped out at me thinking about that is the lack of a head shot in eve. Obviously, it's not that big a deal there... but I hope the hit boxes in DUST are more like Halo and less like EvE.
I don't see the point in even talking about how good the game is until we can actually play it though.
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Kojach Baumherr
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.11 19:20:00 -
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Miss President wrote:Nedes Betternaem wrote:Is it just me, or do DUSTs graphics look like they belong in a 2008 game? Maybe 2006? Now it explains why they are not charging money for dust, who would charge any money for that kind of graphics? If this was beta with lower settings, CCP marketing would never release the video due to bad false publicity it would create. Idea is great though, so maybe free model will make people put up with the graphics.
idiots
that footage is crazy old, its not even beta, its alpha
go look at some of the newer screenshots on that website |

Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
10
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Posted - 2012.03.11 20:07:00 -
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Besides great graphics dont make a great game. Its about time the industry realizes this fact and focuses more on innovation than pretty shiny.
With Dust, I dunno. It might be a great step ahead for online gaming and cross game interaction. But there is scarcely any up-to-date info on the game, which most times is a very bad sign. For your attention! Market order modification fee (anti-botting, more interesting trading) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78351 |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
849
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Posted - 2012.03.11 22:48:00 -
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I play Eve because it's a Sci-fi game, because it's a Sci-fi game that I can play on my computer.
I can play CA on my computer.
I can play Project Blackout on my computer.
I can play Battlefield 3 on my computer.
Why would I care about a console game in a forum of a Sci-fi COMPUTER game? Looks cool but I don't care, if I want to shoot some stuff I'll just play BF3. |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
112
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Posted - 2012.03.11 23:29:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Why would I care about a console game in a forum of a Sci-fi COMPUTER game? Looks cool but I don't care, if I want to shoot some stuff I'll just play BF3. Because that console game is now part of your computer game? Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1789
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Posted - 2012.03.11 23:51:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Why would I care about a console game in a forum of a Sci-fi COMPUTER game? Looks cool but I don't care, if I want to shoot some stuff I'll just play BF3. Because that console game is now part of your computer game?
Hopefully it won't be for long.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Tikhon Fedorov
Castle Kingside
7
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Posted - 2012.03.12 02:43:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:I play Eve because it's a Sci-fi game, because it's a Sci-fi game that I can play on my computer. I can play CA on my computer. I can play Project Blackout on my computer. I can play Battlefield 3 on my computer. Why would I care about a console game in a forum of a Sci-fi COMPUTER game? Looks cool but I don't care, if I want to shoot some stuff I'll just play BF3.
Actually they're seriously pondering releasing a PC version. So, worries are over, you just might have to wait a bit longer.
But I mean, seriously, framerate! Look at what people are playing, minecraft. Do people care much about the graphics? No, just a quality game. EVE looks pretty because somehow it CAN look pretty, and while it would be nice to see Dust comparable graphically, I'd rather see a bunch of blockhead capsuleers with 8 bit color depth running at a decent framerate first. I know there's a bit of a vanity issue when it comes to beauty of a game, but there's something greater to be said about elegance. Honestly, it looks fine graphically, they could tune it down so it looks less pretty but runs smoothly and I'd be happy as pie. Give me the option if possible. |

Decus Daga
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.03.12 02:46:00 -
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I hope their releasing a pc version, i was just reading the site and saw...
"The keyboard will be usable for chatting only. There will be no in-battle mouse + keyboard support."
http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/2041/tools-of-the-trade
Damnit! i suck at fps with controllers! |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1790
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Posted - 2012.03.12 03:01:00 -
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I have a feeling Sony will be taking that whole "console exclusive" thing seriously. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
185
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:44:00 -
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No, they changed their tune on that. It's now full support on PS3 for keyboard and mouse. Remember, that dev blog is an older one. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Oberine Noriepa
575
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Posted - 2012.03.13 02:55:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:I have a feeling Sony will be taking that whole "console exclusive" thing seriously. Since CCP is publishing their own product, I suspect the likelihood of any significant exclusivity is low. You should also consider the fact that third-party exclusives are a very rare occurrence these days. The recent confirmation of mouse and keyboard controls has very strong implications for an eventual PC version. I would give it six months post-release, at minimum, for a PC announcement. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1795
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Posted - 2012.03.13 03:38:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:I have a feeling Sony will be taking that whole "console exclusive" thing seriously. Since CCP is publishing their own product, I suspect the likelihood of any significant exclusivity is low. You should also consider the fact that third-party exclusives are a very rare occurrence these days. The recent confirmation of mouse and keyboard controls has very strong implications for an eventual PC version. I would give it six months post-release, at minimum, for a PC announcement.
I'll be shocked if Dust lasts six months. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Docter Daniel Jackson
Hendrix Angels Fabricated Confabulations
24
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Posted - 2012.03.13 04:00:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:I have a feeling Sony will be taking that whole "console exclusive" thing seriously. Since CCP is publishing their own product, I suspect the likelihood of any significant exclusivity is low. You should also consider the fact that third-party exclusives are a very rare occurrence these days. The recent confirmation of mouse and keyboard controls has very strong implications for an eventual PC version. I would give it six months post-release, at minimum, for a PC announcement. I'll be shocked if Dust lasts six months.
Is it the idea of dust514 that you dont want to see work? or the fact its only for PS3?
because I like the idea of dust 514 but dont see it been PS3 only will work well with eve |
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